The Maxx

Left is original. They murdered the colors.

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They always say the recolor is how they originally envisioned it and blame the old artist for taking liberties. When most of the time the old coloring is what made it iconic in the first place.

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Should I even read this?
I loved the cartoon but it looks like it spirals out of control in a bad way pretty quickly.

The Maxx recolor is a particularly tough one to handle because it's by Steve Oliff who is pretty much the most important colorist in comics history. demonstrates why, 20+ years of improved technology and they can't do anything he and his company weren't doing in 1993 and in many ways it looks worse.

Obviously the colorist is the real hero in these cases.

I mean, it's not a must-do, but I enjoyed both the comic and the cartoon while bearing in mind that the creator
1. Said the show had the better ending
2. Said that all the "sequel" stuff he did was pretty bad storywise. Still had some great art and a few nifty moments.

OP here. It's only worth reading if you want to know exactly how the Maxx became the Maxx and you really want to know Mr Gone's backstory. You can probably figure out both just from what's in the cartoon though and you're right about it spiraling out of control towards the end.

other Messner-Loebs comics are actually good

What the fuck is that shit on the right supposed to be
Jesus

The first story with Julie was the only thing worth reading anyway.

I Cannot think of anytime a sequel that takes place after a long timeskip ever really works out too well.

Bump. The Maxx gets too complicated and true for mainstream or modern or you audiences. Starts out simple enough but outgrown its audience of they aren't growing up too. Cartoon ends simply for a reason. Tragic how Bimbo etc don't have the same dynamic male protagonist. But fans of The Maxx wouldn't demand deal product be made by Sam.

Do you mind taking another crack at this post? Because I can't understand half of what you wrote.

Sure.
I am so awesome and the only reason why I am not constantly having my sick sucked is because I am afraid it'd turn me gay. I invented Video Games and Comic Books like John Videogames from that Penny Arcade comic. I'm bored. I wonder where the world goes when I am not around. There's hardly any of it left when I am around. It's all so unbelievable and childish. The hipsters and liberal's the old democrats and the middle aged republicans all make words like anything matters when a straight white man can't go to work because like a blank piece of white paper he gets horrible stories written on him daily. And what's the point of going to work if you can't build a family because hip hop culture has been screaming Duck for 20 years straight.
It's a Maxx Thread. If you're poorly simulated why are you pretending to have read a comic about a hobo and a wizard wrestling physically through mindscapes 16 years before Phonogram was a thing?

Wait, wasn't it actually like, re-confirmed by the end of the comics that Mr. Gone was still a rapist? Or did it in fact turn out in that canon that he never raped anyone? I found it really unclear, but was also confused by him suddenly becoming this sweet, sympathetic character everyone tolerated even after he at the very least did mutilate one of them as Gone.

I love this series. I don't know why but the art for me is the best part. Also, Julie is my kind of hot dumpy ex-girlfriend tier.

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The Maxx comes from a time and place where women admitted they didn't have answers instead of bold faced lying. What, did you think /gif/ was as fake as Mr Ed? Go watch Black Snake Moan or something. Mr Gone was a cruel and powerful man who would have rather not been those things.

I'm The Maxx universe the same way a woman can be kidnapped and forced to have the biggest orgasm of her life against her will while freeing for her life, in a mirroring way Artimis Pender could be manifested by his environment as as a dark interventional sorcerer rapist and enjoy it and get it had nothing to do with who he was as a person, the reality of Mr Gone was entirely a manifestation by his daughter and his X Wife who painted him has a villain. The orgasm of the rapee is real, and horrible and not her responsibility. Artie Lender's reality was itself that out of control. He learned to gain some control of his reality at great pains. He started out with much less control of who he got to be to those around him. It took him a long time to Escape the roles of self loathing he himself had been raped into. But you're just a shame machine in charge of keeping this Jamaican Food Storage Unit act somewhat forumy. Bye.

When Sarah meets with Gone for the first time after the timeskip I thought he was implying that "Mr. Gone" was a spiritual version of himself made from Sarah's mind that he'd summoned into the real world from her outback to help her work through her daddy issues, but Sarah had such a low opinion of him that he was evil. But then I guess they decided to drop that idea.

Sam fumbled trying to say that even cruel people are people.

>What was even the point of those last few issues where a couple gets kidnapped a guy wearing a diaper, a little girl hangs out in a library, Glorie's story working in a casino etc? It felt like it was building up to something and then it just completely loses focus and ends.

Kieth (yes, it is spelled that way) said that he was getting bored with The Maxx and its characters and didn't want to do the comic anymore. So he tried to turn the comic into an anthology for his drama and coming of age story ideas, only including the Maxx cast in the framing sequences.

That got a REALLY negative reception, so he spun off the anthology stuff into a new book called Friends of Maxx and hastily tried to tie up the main Maxx series so he could focus on his Friends of Maxx spin-off. Friends of Maxx did very poorly and got cancelled after I think only 4 issues.

Kieth kinda did what Dave Sim did toward the end of Cerebus. Sim got bored with the narrative and the characters after so many years, so he turned the book into an outlet for his weird essays about gender relations, literature, whatever. It kinda became his blog. A lot of indie creators do this when they get bored with their book because they have the freedom to do the book however they want and not give a shit if readers like it or not. It usually spells the end of the book, but by that point the creator's have made enough money off of it that they really don't care if people stop buying.

I hated the new colors IDW did with Maxx-imized (though Kieth approved them), but the WORST thing about that remaster is that they fucked up the lettering in several issues, giving word balloons to the wrong characters and things like that. So rather than an improvement, it reads worse than the original printings.

The big problems with the issues after #20 is that Kieth, an artist, fired Bill Messner-Loebs, a writer, and decided he could write the book just as well on his own. He COULDN'T, because drawing and writing are two very different disciplines, and the book turned into meandering, aimless shit until it quietly died. The current Batman/Maxx miniseries is also written by Kieth without Messner-Loebs and it's just as boring, pointless and confusing. Kieth hasn't improved as a writer in 25 years, despite insisting he's a writer-artist and trying his hand at it numerous times.

The shame of it is that we just needed five more 20 minute episodes of the cartoon to come to a more satisfactory-conclusion.

Disgusting

Kieth wrote and drew alone before The Maxx. Not saying he should have fired WML but it's erroneous to call him just an artist.

WML is an artist too. Noting very special, but neat considering he's one-armed.
Poor guy, he's still homeless and Kieth cut him out of the Batman/Maxx crossover that's in delayed-hell

He's never written anything good though, not unlike those other Image artists who thought they could write.

>The shame of it is that we just needed five more 20 minute episodes of the cartoon to come to a more satisfactory-conclusion.

A second season would have closed it all up so nicely and gotten us to a #20 adaptation. It was a good show and issue #11 was a workable place to conclude the story at (including the extra scene they added for finality), but there was so much more we didn't get and never will. Lame ass Mtv.

Really? The Maxx is the only thing of his I've liked. Then again, I think I've only ever read his WW run, most of it, which was bad.

Yeah I get how there were framing and reception problems. But that doesn't mean that the actual comics were bad. I didn't care whether or not the Maxx was in it much or not, it will still amazing.

>Yeah, Keith even said himself that returning to the book was a mistake.
Irrelevant. Leo Tolstoy eventually renounced Anna Karenina and War & Peace as bad books. Doesn't matter, they're still great.
>He thought he could do more, but then realized he done fucked up. Especially with "Mr. Gone wasn't really a rapist." He openly "my bad"ed about that, years ago.
Maybe you better reread things, because Kieth never said Mr Gone wasn't a rapist. There was ONE Alan Moore-written issue in which the entire first half of the run was characterized as if it were a dream.
But that turned out not to be true. It was an idea that some of the characters had, but it was immediately rejected.
It added to the delusionary dreamlike narrative.
Or do you mean the stuff about how Kieth filled in Mr Gone's backstory and showed how he was the victim of sexual abuse himself? That doesn't make him not a rapist. Kieth was showing the cycle of abuse, not excusing what Gone did or saying it didn't happen.

>Then again, I think I've only ever read his WW run, most of it, which was bad.
Just not your thing then because I thought Space Pirate and Mundane Woman were great.

he wrote the best Flash issue ever, good Impulse stuff, Wasteland is tight and Journey is terrific

based schizoposter, don't ever take your meds