I've seen a lot of posts lately bemoaning how certain writers or adaptions of Spider-Man don't seem to get the...

Point 2 and 3 are right but
>dont make him hot
He must be hot, is the only explanation why an asshole nerd like him managed to get 5 girls desperate for his attention in the early comics.

Peter Parker is the story of a boy forced to grow up early and become a young man, and mostly set during his early 20s-30s as just your average joe trying to get by in life. No, high school isn't a requirement, just something cartoons like to push a lot ever since Ultimate comics. Spider-Man is a guilt driven superhero determined to NEVER let what happened to Uncle Ben happen again, linked directly to how he uses his powers in his everyday life. You like Spidey because he's just a regular guy; a man who uses bad humor to mask his own fear when fighting villains like The Rhino or Green Goblin. Moreover, the mask and powers are tools that bring out the best in Peter Parker, proving that even without them Peter's wit and potential to do good were there the entire time. MCU Spider-Man, and by extension Disney, doesn't really get a lot of this. While you can still enjoy the movies for what they are, and naturally should be treated as an elseworlds of sort, they fundamentally miss the point of what makes Spider-Man great.

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As others say it changes with the times
>>Arrogant but brilliant teenager burdened with extra responsibility. Slightly selfish but inherently has a good heart. Stays out of others business and expects the same.
>>Post Uncle Bens death he is still arrogant but no longer selfish. He is angry and occasionally confident but often surprises himself with it as its new. Very stand offish and believes he’s the only one struggling, but still heart of gold despite it all.
>>Brief period of happiness in early college. Befriends old bullies, gets a steady girlfriend with Gwen. Finally starts to mature into adulthood both as parker and spidy. Then Goblin shits on his life
>>Arrogance is officially gone after the original comic snap. Now a broken man, selfless but angry, conflicted and in pain. He struggles with everything, cant find his footing and gives endlessly as spidy while hiding from being peter.
>>MJ helps him become a better man. She widens his perspective, deepens his understanding of people, and tells him its okay to have fun in life. They dont work out because of the stress of the hero life but she fundamentally changed him for the better. He is almost best parker, finishing college after breaks and finding a healthy balance in his life.
>>He backslides a bit into his anger over his crappy luck after MJ. He pours to much into spider-man and forgets to have any fun. Felecia makes him feel good about himself as spidy and he finally learns to take pride in himself. He becomes a better hero, the best he’s ever been at it, but he isnt yet complete.
>>Rounds back to MJ, they find balance together. Peter is now his best self with the mask on and off. Things arent so hard because of MJs support, emotional and financial from her modeling career. Peter is happy, adjusted, and becoming responsible. Its at this time he works more steadily. He is his best both as a hero and a man
>>then before the birth of his child his characterization was put in a cycling stasis forever

>implying it isnt because spider-powers gave him a rockin bod and because HES FUCKING SPIDER-MAN
You could be the nerdiest mother fucker in the world and STILL get bitches if your spider-man

Peter is hot. He’s only 5’10 and dated
>>an older woman
>>the it girl in college
>>a model
>>Felicia (she just that hot)
I mean he was never bad looking. He was just 15 with doofy clothes, glasses, haircut. He had the cheekbones and getting in shape and a fresh hair style and nice shirt went along way.
Works in real life too btw. Get a good haircut, wear a nice shirt, get in good shape....woaw check it out youre way less ugly

Sounds like Ultimate Peter

That depends whether you want him to pander teenagers or young adults. Most issues I see with him is that Marvel can't decide which.
My take is that they should let Peter be an broken ass adult for people who grew up with him and let Miles take the teenage audience.

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How about you stop being a nigger and read a comic book for once in your life?

People keep saying MCU Pete doesn't have this or go through that but I don't get it at all. Entire first movie is him trying to live up to great power great responsibility and what he thinks is right only to fuck up. Keeps trying. Keeps fucking up. Even Stark tells him to stop. But in the end Peter's moral compass proves right in the end and his feeling of responsibility leads to him saving the day. Not only that but he rejects an Avengers invite because it's not about being a hotshot world traveling superhero. He has a responsibility to protect all the street level guys too. He also deals with all the usual Peter suffering in that Spider-Man gets in the way of all his normal relationships, he puts people in ranger doing what he does and can't make commitments which leads to him alienating more people in his life. But he carries that burden because he believes in what he's doing.

This is all IN Homecoming

I think every writer in the last two decades forgot how a fucking determinator Peter can be. Not his pissed mode, going silent and angry while the villains shit on their pants, but truly the guy who will do the impossible to save the day, alone if he need.

I don't think any comic in the last decade displayed Spider-man as someone you don't want to mess, not because he's annoying or when he's angry, but because he just won't stop.

60s Pete was angry and vindictive, he barely managed to keep himself from beating up Harry Osborne on the daily

>man who uses bad humor to mask his own fear when fighting villains
I'd say the MCU gets this right more than Raimi and the Sony movies

God you Disney shills are fucking pathetic

His entire motivation was trying to impress Stark up until he gets the suit taken away then it's oh shit this vulture guy is gonna fuck the city.He doesn't struggle at all he fucking lives in a nice apartment in NYC that doesn't look like a crack den and has multiple rooms.That shit is accomplish few can achieve.He gets a billion dollar suit in the beginning and again in the end of the movie.He treats his best friend like shit and denies his school responsibilities and never got punished for it.The only part that you could argue was that he jailed the girls dad but peter only knew her for like 2 weeks and she's gonna live with her mom so what does it really matter to peter?

NOT FUCKING MENTION HE DIDNT EVEN DEFEAT VULTURE ON PURPOSE.HIS WINGS WERE GONNA EXPLODE BECAUSE HE JUST SURVIVED A FUCKING AIRPLANE CRASH

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Not him, but Vulture was gonna die because the material he was trying to transfer was highly explosive

He's a comic book character, there's at least dozens of characterizations of him and there isn't a 'right' one and claiming otherwise is a thinly veiled "not muh"

That too

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Try not to get so booty tickeled over somebody liking a Spider-Man you don't. But anyway, I think the ship moment where he failed spectacularly was a good Spider-Man learning moment. The whole movie to me felt like a lesson in using your power responsibly. In folding Spider-Man into the Avengers you have to address that being a superhero is just an out there widely known thing. So I feel like Peter thinking he's Avenger level and that powers give him some kind of imperative made for a good learning moment of not just powers bringing responsibility but also USING your powers responsibly. He was so desperate to be a superhero but had yet to learn restraint. I feel like that's a very Peter Parker story.

The problem is that Peter is guilt ridden, and more of a fucking fanboy chasing Iron Man. Ben Parker was a real hero.

One thing people never acknowledge is that MCU Peter has been in the game a little while now already. He's already lost Uncle Ben and likely gone through that emotional roller coaster. It's part of his character but it doesn't mean other things can't become character issues like the Star stuff. Spider-Man isn't solely defined by Uncle Ben

>movies cover Uncle Ben

OH GOD YET ANOTHER ORIGIN STORY WHY DON'T THEY JUST START WITH THE SUPERHERO ESTABLISHED ALREADY WE KNOW THE BACKSTORY

>movie skips past Uncle Ben and his origins

WHERE'S UNCLE BEN????????

stop being mean to me

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I am on Dan slott side, don't be a rude asshole about having your character written differently.

Dan's right. Creatives being accessible online doesn't mean they need to be free punching bags nor do they have to listen to 'criticism' that amounts to "your shit sucks"

Anonymity makes everyone dicks and kills constructive criticism. But then the way twitter and Reddit tie you to your entire history to you makes it dangerous to disagree with the majority.

ok dan

Just follow Spider-Man TAS.

Dumbass