Okay Yea Forums, what the fuck was his problem? Why was he such an asshole?
What are you hoping to see in "Bad Gateway" now that it's out? I'm patiently waiting for some based user to scan it for us poorfags.
Okay Yea Forums, what the fuck was his problem? Why was he such an asshole?
What are you hoping to see in "Bad Gateway" now that it's out? I'm patiently waiting for some based user to scan it for us poorfags.
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He peaked in high school and it's been a slow downturn exacerbated by drugs, a shitty relationship and negative influences.
I'm going to post some of my collection while we all wait.
Lazy asshole that peaked in highschool. Wants to maintain his status as "the cool one" so he drags everyone around him down to his level, or allows others like WWJ to do the same.
Is this supposed to be comedy?
Sometimes it makes me laugh, but a lot of the time it makes me feel bad. It's a comic about weird, unsympathetic loners that makes you feel a lot of things, like the book "Suttree" by Cormac McCarthy.
While it's pretty shitty of Megg to go behind Mogg's back, it's hard to feel bad for him because he's such a miserable shitheel. Megg really should be straight with him and break things off though.
my fucking man!
People don't really live like this do they?
I got my copy of Bad Gateway yesterday, there's almost no comedy in this one. Megg makes herself look dirty and crazy so she can stay on welfare, Mogg tries to find a job and of course fails miserably, and Werewolf stays sober for a few days (turns into an unremarkable white guy) but ODs in their bathroom, then snaps to, nude, and drives his kids to the aquarium. We find out he has an infant daughter he's been keeping in a bird cage. There's maybe a few funny moments bit this whole book is remarkably sad. Owl only appears briefly in a flashback to when they were 19.
I'd love to say no, but unfortunately there are lots of people that are just walking piles of garbage
It's exaggerated for comedic effect, but there are elements of their behavior that are very real.
That's what I've been hoping for. I want it to be heavy and grim. That's what this whole series has been building to, I feel.
Ordered BG thru amazing bc it was like $10 cheaper but didn't realize id miss out on a Fantagraphics-exclusive zine. Sucks. Hope one of you lads or ladies etc scans it eventually.
Lucky. Your post made me go out and check my mailbox, but my copy's still in delivery.
Anyone going to spend 450 bucks for the collectors edition that comes with an exclusive zine?
Usually those zines are reprints of stories in his self-published stuff or from girlmountain.
What's your go-to reading music for MM&O, Yea Forums? I default to something psychedelic and summery, usually Ariel Pink or someone in his entourage.
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Of course, for the heavier parts I gravitate towards sad-sounding post-punk and shoegaze.
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This is my personal MM&O soundtrack, as you may have surmised.
Simon Hanselmann seems like has good taste in music, plus music seems like a big part of certain MM&O strips, so I put a lot of thought into what I spin while dumping on here.
Low-fi folk rock generally. Stuff that's got an upbeat melody but depressing lyrics. Seems to fit the comic's aesthetic for me.
He says in today's socmed posts that it's goof "outakes" from BG so it sounds original this time
>gummo
That's a good choice, as it's probably the type of music SH himself likes. I'm assuming that he's a Microphones fan given Phil Eleverum and his late wife's cameo in pic related.
I'm very curious what will come of Megg's troubled relationship with her mom in this new book, if anything.
yes
I've literally known people who lived like this
I get that not everybody working food service and shifts is a piece of shit trying to imagine what a good person would be like and getting dragged down every time they try and act on the dream, but fuck me, there's so many people like this just screwing each other over constantly
always has been
we do
IF YOU FIND YOURSELF AS THE OWL IN YOUR FRIEND GROUP EVACUATE IMMEDIATELY JUST RUN FUCK THE CONSEQUENCES GET OUT
I lived like this for a while. These comics really tend to hit home for me, at least for those years. Of course it's exaggerated but the feelings expressed are all too real and it really manages to accurately portray the level of indifference you get to at some point while living like that. It's like you're miserable all the time but because you're constantly putting drug bandaids on it there's not enough incentive to change.
These bring me back, when I was living with two old high-school friends in shitty ass apartment, doing nothing all day but smoke on the bucket bong and nag at each other. These comics are painful.
How did you pay the bills?
Genuinely curious, as being broke was probably the only reason I never ended up like this
Pooling funds or relying on one of the social group being a wagie
is that a real episode?
Whats the worst thing that happens in it and how does it end?
Obligatory BMSR ost
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It becomes less and less comedy and more and more existential tragedy and terror
Silent Hill Ost
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Guess I'll dump some stuff since OP dipped
what point in the timeline does this takes place?
After everything (so far)
so after the restaurant, birthday incident, or sometime before Oel left?
Sorry to interrupt the storytimes, but has anybody put up Entertainment, Decade and Knife Crime? Those are the only ones I haven't seen yet.
Well, WWJ is fucking dead so i assume after all them
Ill dump Decade rn
Decade is kinda like an anthology type thing so lots of misc art and other stuff
here's some guys archive with all the stuff (so far)
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>They're still living like this in their late thirties.
RARE STRIP
sorry dump user
My mum is like this in her middle forties.
I'm so sorry
>One day Megg will fuck Owl to hurt Mogg.
>Lets Owl fuck her ass as revenge for Mogg begging for it all the time.
>Owl is a true anal fiend and Megg ends up really liking it to her surprise.
>Megg stares up at the ceiling in absolute shock while Owl sleeps.
I hope this happens.
Degenerates like you belong on a cross
The book came out early in Spain and a friend gave me some spoilers from Bad Gateway if anyone wants them. Haven't been lurking lately so sorry if they've already been posted.
>Megg tries to keep her money from the government since they're struggling with rent
>Booger confesses her feelings for Megg, they kiss, Mogg sees and gets pissed
>Mogg tries to work in a cat cafe, gets fired after he gets a boner when he gets pet
>Megg thinks she's in love with Booger
>Werewolf Jones is somehow even worse than before, having lots of gay sex and snorting coke off of dicks
>He keeps a baby in a cage?
>Werewolf Jones ends up disappearing
>Megg leaves to go take care of her mother
>Mogg is alone in the house
much appreciated user
>fucking that barbed wire dick
Yowch. She must be one hell of a masochist
>Mm Historicals
lol
OOPS Cant show THAT on a christian imageboard
Yo, were you the user who storytimed knife crime and some other zines a few days ago? Someone had photos of the new zine that's out.
In the same way life is a comedy.
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Someone posted this in a storytime thread half recently, dope shit.
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Ayy that was me, Silent Hill/ Resident Evil ost is my go to chilling/ drawing music
Nah it's a human dick.
As can be seen in several comics
Sorry, I've only read a couple of issues.
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>what the fuck was his problem
Losers like you spamming this board and samefagging to talk about a stupid character no one cares about
Have a T shirt with this design. Too based
This fucking picture is the best damn thing ever, I want Owl and Mogg in jerseys.
Got werewolf jones and sons? I haven't seen that one. I love when new stuff comes up.
Oh nice, I was looking for this.
Follow up to Xmas 2017
That's it for Decade
Gonna dump XMP now if anyone's interested
>bottom right corner
Fucking kek
I'm wageslaving for a living and this is how I spend my day off :(
Aw yeah, this is one of my favorites.
same bro. Very french
You couldn't protect that smile
woah
>Bruce Lee
>Date of burial: July 31, 1973
>Place of burial: Lake View Cemetery, Seattle, WA
> Im Sorry.
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It's supposed to be #relatable but also whoa so deep
Sorry for what?
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Yes, I've known plenty of them
Alright, with that i'm done for tonight. Thanks for sticking around and reading with me. If someone else wants to take over feel free.
Woah shit, jaxon looks so weird now
>ww jones died 2 years ago
wew
>One day Megg will fuck Owl to hurt Mogg
Well funny you say that because she nearly did that in the latest issue and Mogg sperged out. Not that Mogg doesn't deserve it, he's by far and away the worst of the four of them, followed by Werewolf Jones and Owl.
Maybe his dad dying had more of an effect on him than just losing his worst influence
How the fuck is owl worse than megg?
I'm really really REALLY behind so I'm unsure but owl getting out is canon, yes? They don't drop it?
Because he's a pathetic loser who enables their bullshit over and over again. If he stood up to them and seriously stopped giving into their nonsense then they would crash pretty fast. Megg is a victim of circumstance, Owl brings it on himself.
Much like her entire friend group, many anons want to fuck Megg so they pretend she isn't a shitty human being because of her depression or terrible childhood. Owl is also a shitty person of course, but he isn't anywhere near as bad as his 'friends'.
they know someone like that? asked that kind of aggressive thoe
This
Owl did leave and yet M&M remain horrible shitty people.
wait
>he's by far and away the worst of the four of them, followed by Werewolf Jones and Owl.
what?
I know ALL of these characters and at least 2 of them are the same person.
forget what i posted read the name wrong
The implication in the original is that of the four, Megg is the least bad. The user you are quoting thinks that is bullshit because he thinks Owl is the least bad.
I think a lot of anons here have been or see a lot of themselves in Owl so they can't help but hate him more because he has potential but squanders it all by allowing himself to be a punching bag to these terrible, terrible people. It hurts more to relate to someone who's a piece of shit so you end up hating them most.
I'd accept that Owl is the least shitty of all of them, if it was just him enabling them via wageslavery. But he doesn't, he tries to pretend that these embarassingly dysfunctional losers are capable of being something more than leeches on his life. He's got all these delusions that they actually care about him and his obsession with Megg that keeps him around them is pathetic. I mean he's been in love with his personal manic pixie dream girl for 20 years and has been trying to fuck her all that time despite not really liking her at all. He's absolutely a conniving scumbag who thinks he's smart for trying to take advantage of Megg's self-loathing to fuck her. I mean he's tried to fuck her so many times, he just sits and waits for Mogg to piss her off and then offers to fuck her. Has he ever tried actually caring about Megg and asking her how he can help her? No. Owl deserves to be seen as an asshole too, 100%, he's just a scumbag in a less visible way than the other three. The only redeemable ones of any of the characters is Booger or the wizard.
I really appreciate Simon for writing the fact that even though WW is by far the most overtly unhinged member of the group, Mogg is equivalently the worst person in the comic. I think that's more true to life than people realize.
Anons who see themselves in Owl need a reality check, Owl isn't entirely good either. He's too much of a pussy to ever help his supposed friends and so he just enables them endlessly to the point of ruin.
Correct. Werewolf Jones constantly gets called out for his bullshit and I think that if it was just Megg and Owl he'd have been booted from their lives ages ago. But Mogg, every time the crew starts seriously trying to unfuck themselves, immediately jumps in to drag them all down to his level. Mogg acts aloof but in reality he's an insecure piece of shit who has ruined the lives of everybody around him by dragging them all down.
He's cringy and I can find myself sympathizing with the others when they mock some of the dweeby shit he says
And as for Megg, she gets points for me because she actually shows awareness and suffering from the intensely sad state of her life, as opposed to Mogg and Jones who block it out/don't show much genuine feeling unless they've been broken down to delirious hysterics or something
Thanks for the storytime. Thanks for the links.
Oh no I'm not justifying user's for seeing themselves as owls, nor am I justifying Owl's behavior because he like the others is at fault for his own horrible life. However I think more than not people here see themselves as the doormat like Owl instead of the disaster that is WWJ. Some Meggs floating around, and Moggs are straight up sociopaths so they'll never admit to being at fault.
That's the worst type of person to me, his ego won't allow him to admit shit's fuck, he'll never try to un-fuck his shit, he'll keep others surrounded by shit around him and any moment of clarity of how bad things are is quickly fleeting so the status quo is quickly restored. He's the king of shit mountain and he'll try to keep as many subjects around him so he'll never have to face how bad it really is. I think I've read every MM&O but between high school and now was there ever any story as to now Mogg and Meg started dating? I would believe though that it was the case of Megg going "fuck it there's no one else in this town, so Mogg it is".
I don't know how they started dating, but I'm pretty sure that it basically was what you describe. I'm pretty sure Simon's stated things to that effect.
Oh lawd, I had never seen that one.
my sides
When depression takes the wheel I've become kinda like this.
They were jist friends then it developed from there. They explain a bit in Bad Gateway
We've seen that Megg used to date WWJ and Mogg had kind of a thing for her. The most likely scenario is that she broke it off with WWJ and Mogg at the time seemed like the best guy out of their circle of friends. I mean really, who else was she going to get with? Owl? Mike? Not likely.
If you can relate to any of this, you need to sort out your life.
I cannot understand this mindset many anons in these threads have of Mogg being the worst person in the group. I swear, I've read just about every MMO I can get my hands on, and either there's some strips out there that I haven't read where this is expanded upon, or I'm clearly not getting the same thing out of this that you guys are. Can you cite some examples where this has happened?
Likewise, this Megg apologism drives me up the wall. She and Mogg both strike me as equally repugnant for different reasons, but neither are on the same level as Jones, whose whole identity is based on doing heinous shit on a regular basis.
You've kind of got to read between the lines. WWJ is the person who is the most overtly horrible. He does the hardest drugs and deals out the most extreme abuse, both to his friends and his kids. But you really get the idea thta there's something fundamentally wrong with him that's not being addressed.
And Megg at worst is just a total bitch. She always seems to recognize when she's gone too far, but at least she's going to therapy and taking medication, and seems to actively want to not get as bad as WWJ or her mom.
Mogg however doesn't seem to ever give a fuck if the situation has gotten out of control. While WWJ seems to have gotten to where he is because something's wrong with him, Mogg is just a normal guy that completely burned out and has no desire to improve his station whatsoever. As long as nothing threatens his status quo, he's fine with it no matter how disgusting it is.
Nice to see that they were able to patch things up after Owl moved out. That and he is able to just genuinely try to comfort her and not try to make a move on her.
>The cross-dressing old man is into fucking kids
>Owl getting oppressed for "liking kids"
>WWJ makes pedopornography
>WWJ with a full hard-on naked in the boys' shower
Pretty sure Simon is a pedophile apologist. Kinda sucks. Weird how those themes were virtually absent from earlier issues.
Except all these things are depicted as done by horrible, reprehensible people. You're not meant to think that anything anyone does in this comic is at all good.
I understand Owl because I/my brother are a bit like that myself.
My brother hangs out with some pretty stupid fucks (not at this level though) because if he didn't he would have nobody at all.
And I don't hang out with these sorts.
Can anyone elaborate on this point of when Mogg drags everyone else down to his level? I don't doubt this statement but I just want some examples listed.
I don't relate to Owl, he's just an annoying whiny dork. I don't even give a shit about his actual flaws and how he enables them all, I just don't like his personality. He's the kinda guy that makes people roll their eyes. But that's why he's a good character, he's a perfect representation of the kind of guy who gets bullied. Because jesus fuck, he doesn't deserve everything he gets, but also, I want to bully him too
Also, what this guy said. He's a "nice guy". A portion of his niceness is just a front in his quests to get laid. He is genuinely a better person than all of them, but that underhanded kind of kindness is repulsive in any amount, and so is the nerd rage that bursts out when he's "had enough". Being "nice" =/= being likable.
I dislike normal people who are like him more than trash people who aren't. But still, I like him about as much as Megg, because he can be amusing and not totally dweeby at times
Jones is the trashiest but he's my favorite because he's the funniest. The comic clown. The least controversial. He's dependable in how you can always know he'll be doing something outrageous, with little grey area. His kids' existence is sad as fuck, but he's portrayed as the comic relief more often than not.
Mogg is the worst from both an entertainment perspective and just being a terrible person. Megg is mid tier - she shows feeling and humanity more than Mogg, and I find her relatable in her moments of existential fear and anxiety. That's why she's the main character. And the family problems. I mean, my family aren't druggies and are and always have been relatively happy and getting better, but I know the bleak feeling.
This. Mogg is the worst because he voluntarily gives no fucks. Megg gives some fucks. Jones doesn't seem *capable* of giving a sustained fuck.
That's a very superficial way of seeing things.
First of all, the scene in the boys shower. Boys are showering in a room where the waterpark's owner had set up a one-way mirror. Hilarity insues when the glass is broken, but is that all there is to read into it?
That ENTIRE ISSUE had subtext about "sexual maturity". Listed:
- WWJ's kids talk about kissing practice.
- WWJ and MIKE have a conversation about the age of the girls they are spying on through a peephole. The scene is played in a comedic fashion as opposed to the later scene in the boy's shower. Megg's perspective is unexplored.
- No attention is given to WWJ's huge visible boner through the entire story. Not even when he is inside the boys' showers... The question asked here is: "Who is more evil? The waterpark owner whom the boys never knew the actions? Or the erect "self-righteous" adult scarring them for life?
Now I have't read XMP-165 before, but again pedophilia is a motif in both the overall story (second time owl's possible pedophilia is brought up) and the "polanski in space" Halo Chamber story.
Add to that the obvious cross-dressing self insert.
AND add to the fact that the child rapist's son is a BORDERLINE PORTRAIT (66.media.tumblr.com
>mfw I am the owl
Meant to reply to:
I can understand where you're coming from, but at the same time, I think you're giving Megg too much credit. Moments like the end of "Amsterdam," where she is more content to block out the rest of the gang (in a rare moment of them all being supportive and constructive, mind you) and stew in isolation inside her pill mindset. Whether it's because of the fact that all the guys are in love with her or not, the reality is that the gang often dotes on her, and there is no evidence that any of this registers with her. Her therapy sessions don't come across as trying to better herself, rather that she is just trying to cope with her mental issues all while being a useless leech like Mogg.
Also, while most of the times Mogg is complicit when they do shitty things together, this page here is a great example where her actions are all on her. Megg in all strikes me as someone incredibly selfish and is just as capable of cruelty as the others.
Exhibit A
Exhibit B
Reminder that Mogg is short for Michael Conibear.
Owl should logically be too smart for this shit but he still willingly hangs out with these fucking people even after they've sexually assaulted him as a prank, gotten him arrested, and nearly killed him. He has the power to remove them from his life and not see them ever again but he tolerates their buffoonery and abuse so he can lord his functionality over them. He's a lesser nobody than they are but he sticks around so he can feel like somebody compared to the perpetual embarrassment that is their adult lives. He's a big fish in a small pond, and what really hurts is that Owl does all this shit to himself.
Not to victim-blame or anything when it comes to him getting sexually assaulted, but he knows damn well at this point that his """"friends"""" are never going to change and that he's in no position to get indigent at them after they've demonstrated that countless times.
Owl and Megg both have sympathetic or at least relatable qualities even if they're mostly unsympathetic people. They embody some very human tendencies.
>Owl's bean bag
See, the fucked up thing about WWJ is that even those he's an insane monster, he's the one member of the group who actually values their friendship. He genuinely considers the others his friends even though he's constantly lashing out at them. Megg, Mogg, and Owl tolerate each other at the best of times but WWJ actually enjoys their company.
Maybe I'm spending too much time on /x/ but I'm going to start piling up evidence.
>Megg's Kabbalistic dress (note that the self-insert is fully conscious here)
kino. Would watch.
And THIS is finally THE page that woke me up to this whole thing.
If you want to re-read the latest issues especially Landscape, which is by far the most disturbing, here is the link:
Yes, Owl is out for good. Pardon the belated response slow user. The canon in MM&O is a little fucky, but this new book is decisively set post-Owl.
Look sometimes I envy Owls.
This was basically me when I moved for college, glad to say I grew out of that lifestyle
I don't mean to give Megg credit. She's still queen of shit mountain. They're all horrible cretins that deserve each other. But in as far as the hierarchy of shittiness goes, I do think Mogg is worse than her.
Anyone else feel reassured by these comics because even if they're a fuckup they're nowhere near this level of bad?
I'm going to be that guy who defends Mogg.
He's an asshole but a lot of the time he just seems incredibly numb and apathetic which is more pitiable than evil.
Post yfw you will never be Chris-Chan, Dobson, or any of the people in this comic.
Owl is basically using MM and WWJ as external proof of his depression.
They give tangibility to his inner self hatred.
I'm basically Owl if he never met MMWWJ. Sure I'm not a drug addict like he is, but I'm constantly finding things to self-flagellate myself with.
I'm assuming Owl would do the same if he got away from those three.
>tfw I will never be Rusty Brown
That's only partially true. Mogg is very apathetic, but that doesn't stop him from being actively malevolent. He was the one who decided to trick Owl into relapsing with his drinking. He tries to incriminate Owl to the cops after the deli break-in for basically no reason besides finding it funny. It's implied he genuinely doesn't feel bad about drugging and then raping Owl as a prank, given that "sorry" is in quotes. It's made to sound like he's unaccustomed to saying such things, like he thinks of remorse more as an abstract concept than an intrinsically-felt emotion.
I've known people who are like this, and while their intelligence varies they've usually got a knack for cunning and manipulating people.
This part of "Knife Crime" really does a lot in summing up Mogg's character for me. There's a lot of shit wrong with him, most prominently his anxiety, paranoia, and self-image issues, so he puts on a mask of indifference to hide that from everyone else. He thinks it'll keep him from getting hurt, but it's a double-edged sword. Sure it'll keep people from finding out about his vulnerabilities, but it also guarantees that he won't be able to form any meaningful relationships, which ironically is what he seems to crave. His relationship with Megg because that's about as "real" of a connection as he'll get, which is why he's so possessive and paranoid. It's why he's willing to go to lengths like gaping his asshole to that shady drug dealer to score some weed for her or cover his face with a Hamburglar mask when she claims she's sick of his face.
Not to say that this excuses him. He's still a shitheel, but then again so is everyone else. It just baffles me a bit when people claim that they can feel at least a little sympathy for everyone else, but not Mogg
Neato
Uh oh
I read that comic about the life of his bully and it kind of destroyed me inside.
I don't think I've seen that one, details?
This
I think it's why he never gets an episode to himself, he's too busy being a NEET banging his girlfriend who probably stopped loving him and only stays with him because she needs someone to be with
Any time there's a chance they could change it's him that almost doesn't care and only feels scared when it seems like he's gonna lose Megg because that's the last connection to his prime time in high school
I almost liked that one more than the original "Rusty Brown" strip. It reminded me a lot of "Synecdoche, New York" given that it followed the life and times of an unsympathetic protagonist in extreme detail. Jordan Lint was an asshole, but you understood him. He was complex and he had universal, relatable qualities that we all have. He does lots of abhorrent things but his eventual death is still surprisingly poignant.
Chris Acme, the guy who did "Rusty Brown," wrote another graphic novel titled "Lint" that follows the entire life of one of the bullies who was featured picking on Rusty. Rusty makes a brief cameo in the middle but it's entirely about this Jordan Lint guy and how he's a terrible person while still being relatable on some level.
Literally from birth to death. The most realistic depiction of a dream I've EVER seen in any media. Just soul crushing sadness all the way. It a story time on /aco/ because nudity back when /aco/ was still trying to be interesting. Wish I could find a link.
This. WWJ seems like he has legitimate mental problems and can't even control himself. Mogg acts the way he does because he wants to.
WWJ barely seems aware of what's happening around him at times but Mogg is fully cognizant.
Chris Ware.
I feel like WWJ at this point is running on pure instinct to be a complete degenerate it's his nature and he can't help it, this by the way is not an excuse for what he does it's still horrible, but he has way more moments of awareness and in those moments he apologizes, tells them how grateful he is for them being friends, and shows humility. Is there any instinct of Mogg doing the same to some capacity?
That's definitely a big reason for their existing as a form of reassurance and catharsis. We've had low points, some really low, but very few people actually exist in a perpetual shit spiral like these 4.
What's the story where Owl decides to move out?
Apartments. Link to folder in thread.
The funniest part about this is how big of a Hypocirte Megg is. She sees how horrible her mother is, and thinks shes better than that, but is just as fucking bad in her lfie at home with Mogg, Owl and WWJ.
tfw Booger
Marathon read all the official book collections last night. Fuck I love these druggy fuckwits.
Really hard to choose a favorite, though I think Megahex was one of the best ones. But they're all pretty damn good. WWJ and Sons was great too and I wish the second one was scanned too.
Landscape was fucked in the best way.
Werewolf keeps his boys in a couple of trash cans with cinderblocks on the lids. The end is Megg going to stay with her mom because the mom's got some unspecified problem and Mogg is left in charge of the house and finances.
Is Megg a transsexual like Booger? Or does Hanselman just draw her with a dick sometimes for covers? Because I recall her having a pussy in several issues.
I wouldn't think to hard about it
Take some drugs
You'll feel better
Finally, everything is completely falling apart. Can't wait to see it for myself.
She's totally a woman. The other times is just Hanselmann being abstract.
Ah ok. I was also confused because nothing implies that in the comics, but since she's the main self-insert I wouldn't rule it out.
I can see this being really popular if it ever got an animated adaptation.
Would love a show where the same "crude" marker colouring is used. Like in this >>youtube.com
I have no idea where an animated version could go. Maybe Netflix? It couldn't be on TV with how raw it is, it would instantly be rated R.
Adult Swim?
Haven't thought about Junior Senior in a minute, damn
Good stuff.
Wouldn't it be too much for even them?
Not sure. Superjail had bunch of transsexual stuff/drugs/sex/graphic violence scenes, Ventures bros is full of pedo jokes, but uh, even though MMO is funny as hell, it's also uncomfortable and deals with serious taboos in a way I haven't seen any AS shows do.
MM&O is just too "real" compared to those shows. I guess it would be like when the final season of Moral Oral aired on it.
He talked about doing a pitch onetime I heard, or he could of been on a flight with some guy who works there.
I wouldn't mind it being toned down for adult swim but he would have to sign away a lot of rights to his characters and merchandise to make a show with them.
This may have started out as a parody of meg and mog but it has been such a personal project I wouldn't want that to be compromised
Yeah, ideally, Hanselmann should be the one in control of the adaptation and keep the rights to characters. Wish it was so big he could crowdfund a project to make animated shorts or something.
Did the creator of Meg and Mog ever live to see how Hanselmann "perverted" her IP?
damn right, I associate Ariel Pink with this comic too for some reason.
Threads about this comic proves Yea Forums is woke and accepts all creators of any lifestyle/sexuality/gender as long as they make good stuff.
feels good
Thanks OP, great preparation for Bad Gateway this last week or so
Latest book says Megg is 29, the others are all probably within a year or two of that. Not that that makes it any better.
>make good stuff
That's all it really takes, just make an interesting and entertaining story. This, along with Habits/Terrible Terrible Terrible is something I relate to, to an uncomfortable level because of my past and I'm glad I got out of it, but can see all too easy how one gets involved in it and stays in that situation.
God that is true. Gotta remember that this series is technically a parody of a children's book series, though it obviously bloomed into something more.
Werewolf jones was born in 1980 and died in 2017. Given that megg was in high school with him and just assuming the school system didnt want to deal with him any long then they had to she would be withing 4 years of that give or take.
>amazon put book in soft paper delivery package and a corner got accordioned
Great cover. Sorry about your bent corner.
it's also twice the size of the previous books length/width wise, and is flatter
Man that fucking sucks.
Also with how fat it is compared I'm thinking storytimes are gonna be a while off.
You should send them these photos.
Let me see how well my camera does and I'll take pics of the first few short ones
Where do the MMO comics take place? Simon's from Australia. Are the characters supposed to have Australian accents? That changes things.
Has he said publicly the setting?
WWJ canonically has a gay crush on Owl
nevermind, this book has no short 2-3 pagers, it's like 5 huge stories. Here's the two page intro though, and some art.
2
3
4
Apparently it got retconned to take place in Seattle. It use to take place in Tasmania though.
And that's the intro and lead-in to their current state
Was the couple's therapy part in any comic?
Mmm yes gimme the post-Owl depression right into my veins.
Let me know what you guys think of the camera quality, I know it's a shitty "rip" version but I'm returning this book for a new one anyway. Should I charge the camera up all the way and dump the first story in this same quality?
I think if I didn't have access to the book or was otherwise unable to read it, this would be great.
You should return it and order it instead from Fantagraphics so you can get the free minicomic.
Quality is good man, all we need is to be able to see and read it
It's not a scan but I can still read it fine. Do it.
Well that was a nice recap of what's happened so far
That's what I'm considering
They ship safely too. I've placed several orders with them.
Does anyone know if Simon's released any kind of official timeline for everything?
Werewolf has a boner through most of that episode because he took a handful of pills from Dracula Jr he thought would be something fun like painkillers but it's off brand Viagra. I don't contest your main thesis that he's a predator but his boner is wholly chemical, that's stated outright multiple times
First story is 48 pages, it's definitely the only one I'll be able to dump today.
I'm not actually sure about the timeline and I wouldn't even try considering all the mini-zines, but for the mainline books I'm pretty sure the order they came out is the order they're in.
Owl's departure from the house happened all the way back at the end of Megahex though.
It can be anywhere with a coastline and volcano
Commencing dump of the first story from the new book, I might be slow and have to make a new thread eventually but here we go, lets see if the first image manages to not be from australia
Sweet!
>My aunt saw my tumblr and showed it to my mother, My dad knows everything. I'm fucked.
Kek.
Honestly, I treat it like a cautionary tale. I like to drink, use drugs sometimes, and hate picking up after myself. But anytime I think about day drinking, smoking weed when I have stuff to do, or leaving my dirty dishes on the table, I imagine my life turning into this and the horror spurs me on
If WWJ lives here, what's happening with the kids? Does he just leave them on their own?
You'll see
bless you user
>>"game over."
I feel infantile for laughing at that,
>" a safespace for assholes"
Hey, I found the new 4channel slogan!
It's at least banner worthy.
oh my
captcha a major shit
Don't mind the skips in numbers, the pages are correct I just deleted some ones that came out poorly.
>Welfare office is a monster mash
kek
Thanks user, and holy shit is the house a complete pigsty without Owl
That doesn't make any sense because Owl is constantly having sex. He has hundred of diseases from having shallow one-offs with anyone he crosses paths with.
But he has a lot of sex sometimes even consensual and with the opposite gender. He doesnt go around hating women
Owl had a bunch of girlfriends though and made out with an underaged girl
sorry Yea Forums decided to eat shit
fucking Mogg
based
Which zine?
no fucking way
damn fuck this guy
How long have they been in there?
The morning?
A week?
The whole month?
I expected depression porn but holy shit this is another level. They've all completely fallen apart without Owl and Mogg's dad paying for everything.
based
MM&O always helps to remind me that I should always try to be making things better for myself and avoid going downhill
kek i was expecting a rat or something
>Pretending to be completely insane for welfare checks
Holy shit
four pages left folks
Jeez even they're not taking this shit
Still can't believe he put his kids in bins tied shut with cinderblocks.
That's the end of the first story, remember to consider buying the book to support Simon, I don't think we'll get stuff like this from anyone else. Hope the quality is alright, see you guys later.
thanks for posting, this was great
why? he's right. More right than he knows. She's literally acting, trying to scam the system. She could go out and get a job and work if she tried, but she doesn't want to. She's depressed and dysfunctional, certainly, but because she's able to get free money to spend on booze and drugs, she has no chance of improving. He's completely right. welfare is more harmful for her than it is good.
Thanks for this user, you're the best
>"we're gonna be fine"
Just as ominous as "one more year." Thanks for the storytime, user!
thanks man
Thanks user, you're a cool dude.
>Mogg losing his shit, bitching and complaining about having to get a job and his Dad cutting him off for being a freak
>Megg forcing only him to get a job and then making a big deal about the welfare shit, putting on an act and making a complete nutcase out of herself
>Mogg knowing full well she could get a job too but won't say anything
>Mogg actually crying because he has to be responsible now
>Both get completely fucking cocky and smug about getting to be on welfare again and going right back to being dysfunctional depressed douchebags who in the end realize they fucked up again
What a god damn read man, really shows what a vicious cycle they're in that's only hurting them more and more
>Mogg is wearing an entire hairnet
ok, that is funny
Six more months of blissful ignorance, then it starts all over again.
thats so wwj
wait didn't wwj die in a comic? when is that event happening from now on?
THANK
It looked like he had a boner so it appeared like he was going to try and get her to sleep with him for the check
>Don't mind the skips in numbers, the pages are correct I just deleted some ones that came out poorly.
thank you based user
>paid up his share of two months rent
Nice
WWJ will be departing this mortal coil sometime after megs coven happens in the next book.
Unrelated but i hope Owl doesn't come back. He's safer away from these freaks, his problems are manageable under the right circumstances
My birthday was yesterday, but this is still the best present I got. Thanks user.
>Mogg manages to get a job, an actual step forward in his life
>Megg tells him to quit because she found a way for them to continue their old ways
I hope all the anons saying that Mogg is the one dragging everyone down are reading this.
Damn Mogg is a spoiled brat, worse than WWJ's kids in some ways. Least they are able to go out and make their own money.
yeah it definitely feels like megg is the soul vacuum even though she's the uppitiest about "things will change we'll do better"
Well yeah, and they're y'know, kids. Kids with a fucked up junkie father who taught them the opposite of right from wrong.
Mogg is a spoiled brat with well-off parents.
Thanks, user.
Surprisingly accurate
wwj's boys deserve no blame. they are abused beyond belief by their father.
But he is completely 100% correct.
I don't get it, what are you gettin at
>Or the swamp...
I'm dying holy shit
He didn't take that step willingly, and would quit the second he heard he didn't have to keep it anyway
Damn Megg became a chub in this volume. Makes sense with her lifestyle.
There's lots of Commonwealth usage, though. "Midday", "government" as in a specific group of people, etc.
Talking about dreams to people who clearly don't have dreams at this point of their life is naive, shallow, and pointless. She knows she's holding herself back, and she doesn't care. She needs to be spoken to frankly about reality and cut off from the system, but the corny dream talk can be stowed.
This is quite the schadenfreude parade. It really built up to it.
>Mogg is very offended his dad told him he doesn't like his music
This is hilarious.
mogg really put on weight in this issue, she's drawn with a double chin a lot
>A witch nursing a black bird
based and historical-reference-pilled
>fast food job
>a step forward
it's as aimless and soul crushing as being unemployed, and addicts (whether it be drugs, booze, video games etc) only use their burger bux to fund their habits and let everything else in their life hang on by a thread
>I have no idea how you don't kill yourself doing this everyday.
I don't know mogg, I really don't
megg is a fatty
It's hilarious how just because Mogg's dad found out about his weird Tumblr account he's cutting all his money funding ties with him and just telling him to get a job already. Who knew Owl leaving would end up being such a domino effect in literally everyone in the comic's lives.
Bless you user. Praying you come back with more.
For better or for worse, Owl was pretty much the glue holding the entire group together. He was the only one who held a job, paid the rent, tried his damndest to make his friends be responsible. I'm honestly amazed he stuck with them for as long as he did.
Thanks for the read, what a fucking sad ending.
Megg's getting fat
They were his only friends. But yeah, this comic went somewhere I never thought it would
>It's a comic about weird, unsympathetic loners
I remember I started liking this comic a lot less when I realized that Hanselmann expected us to sympathize with these characters.
Like, no dude. They're terrible, and the "jocks" that are supposed to be so awful are not one iota worse than the main characters.
You are absolutely 100% not supposed to sympathize with them for any reason other than that they are very sad humans on a train to oblivion.
Owl in many ways is the reader, and owl leaving in a lot of ways is saying "you guys are fucked, and you deserve it"
>tfw you realize you're an owl pretending to be a mogg to fuck a megg
>tfw you've been sober off of coke for six months
>switched cities
>got an ok new job with a promotion coming up after the summer
>and she's a degenerate furfag like you and you just want to be a wild faggot with her on the one hand and play out your savior complex on the other
Those silent panels where Mogg is listening to his dad ream him out are devastating. Like, I despise Mogg but his stunned expression gives me this grim, sinking feeling because I've been in that exact situation. It takes me back to every single time my parents have gotten angry and chastised me for something over the years. Their disappointment hurts far more than the belt.
This comic about a stoner witch and her cat boyfriend has proven once again to be one of the realest things I've ever read.
good job owl, don't be a pedophile
>Hanselmann expected us to sympathize with these characters
What the fuck are you talking about? That was seriously your main take-away from the series? He absolutely does not do that at any point. He presents these characters as they are, with all their negative and positive qualities (or lack thereof) laid out for us to examine. Something I like about MM&O is that Hanselmann doesn't demand that we either sympathize with or condemn the cast. We're permitted to make our own judgements after observing how they live.
I have no idea how there are so many brainlets like you making the same points in every one of these threads.
I never got the impression that we were suppose to sympathize with them. At times, their experiences are relatable and they are, at the very core, pitiful, but I never found them sympathetic.
It's a lot like Trainspotting in that regards. You have a story centered around a bunch of junkie drug addicts who find themselves in increasingly fucked up situations.
Hanselmann kabbalist and secret pedophile.
If anything this whole comic is extremely anti-pedophile? They make fun of pedophilia constantly
>tfw no furry gf to have coked-out fursuit orgies with
Is it just me or are we getting more hostile posters then normal in these threads?
this is not your safe space druggie
honestly I'm surprised this thread was as civil as it was. Yea Forums's slide into assholery is near complete.
too late
my second gf was underageb& from /r9k/
only a very silly person would read this comic and think "Mm, I should do drugs."
Honestly if D.A.R.E. published this back in the day I think it would have scared a lot of kids straight for life.
You're not 40 yet.
Goddamnit Owl.
The way mogg is sudenly an insufferable coward thowards looking for a job it's hitting really close to home
>XMP-165 literally a pedo fantasy story complete with self-inserts.
>Waterpark story.
>All pedophile story beats never show a child's perspective.
So what? "Don't worry kids this is just a chemical boner!" What a cop-out...
These people always get exposed in the end. I'm calling it right now. I think Hanselmann is just racked with guilt. Great comic though.
That happens in pretty much every MM&O thread. There's always a pedantic dipshit who whinges about the comic's subject matter or proselytizes about how we're not living up to his arbitrary moral standards, like It's the same deal with the drug feels threads on /r9k/; certain anons get indignent that drugs exist and feel the need to moralize. In this case, it always comes from people who haven't fully read the comic and think it's some kind of "Pineapple Express"-esque stoner comedy that endorses drug use.
I'm basing my perception off an old interview with him where he was ranting about his old neighborhood.
>owl leaving in a lot of ways is saying "you guys are fucked, and you deserve it"
Working in the animation industry has made me very sympathetic to this viewpoint. There are so many social retards in this business that I just don't want anything to do with anymore.
That's the way I initially perceived the comic. Who knows? Maybe I misunderstood Hanselmann's intent.
Only until I realize I still have the rest of my life to fuck up like these idiots have. Being a drug addicted mentally unstable parasite is probably tougher to fall into as a lifestyle once you get past 35, though.
Older adults seem more prone to just offing themselves or going out in some self destructive display rather than languish in depression.
I don't really think Megg thinks of herself as being better than her mother and the coven. You can see she's being a lot politer with them than she would be with other characters. She probably knows she'll wind up just like them and it gives her grief.
The "pedo fantasy" literally has the main character shoot himself in the face, everyone dies horribly. The adult feels nothing but disgust during sex, and everything about it served to underscore "THIS IS TERRIBLE". While you read it, what on earth made you think "Yes, this is someones idea of a good time."?
So who else had no idea that there was a childrens book that this comic took the name and characters from? Wonder what helen nicoll thinks about all this?
>Owl in many ways is the reader
Well, kind of. Compared to a genuinely functional person Owl is kind of shit; he's just a lot better than the people he associated with.
Sure sure, but a genuinely functional person wouldn't even be around to witness things. He's the "straight man", but by necessity still a fuck up.
You are now aware that Mogg's dad was probably proud of his son the track star in high school.
>The adult feels nothing but disgust during sex
Nothing in the story points to this... But hey I guess anal fucking a child is proof of "disgust".
>The "pedo fantasy" literally has the main character shoot himself in the face, everyone dies horribly.
That is a very superficial read of the story. Of course everything ends horribly but "suicide" isn't the story. The story is "a child in a man's body has sex with little girls and is shunned by his peers leading to devastating consequences."
>While you read it, what on earth made you think "Yes, this is someones idea of a good time."?
Pic related.
I don't see any boner, I think he just might have flubbed the shake-off in the toilet and got a little piss on his pants. Or it really is salad dressing.
If he was trying to scam sex out of Megg I think there would be some sign of it. He seems gung-ho on getting her into the training program.
well that's interesting
So- hold on. If you make a comic where a person has sex with a child and every single thing about it is terrible, explicitly so, that means the writer wants to fuck children?
Instead of grasping for straws, why not look at the million and one threads about literal underage cartoon characters that populate this board, twitter, and tumblr. Like, jesus, there is rampant pedophilia that is unabashed, you don't have to go theorizing to find it.
I don't know what to tell you. You're clearly committed to this strange conspiracy theory and nothing we can say will change your mind.
If you want to talk about conspiracies, please go do that on /x/. Yea Forums is for discussing comics and cartoons, which we're trying to do. The author's alleged misdeeds is getting outside the scope of the thread.
This almost makes me wish for a story where Mogg's parent/s come to visit. The complete dressing down they would give him would be amazing.
Their entire world is depicted as being incredibly shitty. Stores, restaurants, nothing is clean, things are all broken. It's as if suburban Sydney was like suburban Mogadishu.
It's like the zoo. I'm just observing these awful people wondering what silly thing they will do next.
I'm from the midwest and that description could easily apply to a lot of places here.
Oh WWJ
>Mogg is THIRTY YEARS OLD
>So- hold on. If you make a comic where a person has sex with a child and every single thing about it is terrible, explicitly so, that means the writer wants to fuck children?
That's not the point. I've explained the reasoning for my analysis in previous posts.
>Instead of grasping for straws, why not look at the million and one threads about literal underage cartoon characters that populate this board, twitter, and tumblr. Like, jesus, there is rampant pedophilia that is unabashed, you don't have to go theorizing to find it.
I'm not a crusader I've been a fan of the series for years now and since this has been a major theme of the later issues I've decided to read between the lines, which is probably what the author wanted.
>I don't know what to tell you. You're clearly committed to this strange conspiracy theory and nothing we can say will change your mind.
I'm screencaping this and I'll have my
>THEY TOLD ME I WAS CRAZY
moment.
I mean I try no to judge, Hanselmann is clearly a talented artist and story-teller and I'm a fan of his work... But he's also very clearly a sexual degenarate. There's no other way to put this.
It's strange, if you go back to the older strips it seems like they're not as bad to Owl as they are in the newer ones
Hanselmann is 100% degenerate, and proudly so. No shame there, this comic is a product of that.
But you can be degenerate and still only be down to have consensual sex between adults, and everything this comic has shown me points to that being his brand of degeneracy.
There's a sequence in One More Year that shows she's been chubby since high school at least. It does look like he's drawing her with a fatter neck and face in this one though
I think it became sort of a role for him to be at the butt of the joke. Kind of like Homer's role in the Simpsons changed over time.
She was always mostly a healthy weight (the girls calling her fat in high school were clearly anorexic) but this is the first time she's starting to show a bit of double chin
The earliest strips really are lolstoner comedy. Owl is just another pothead in those.
What the fuck is booger even supposed to be?
A booger.
A Bogeyman.
A boogey(wo)man
Can someone storytime that Steven universe one?
Also I have no evidence but I think Simon Hanselmann was molested as a kid.
Wasn't the rape pretty early on?
>rape-scented candle
Are there any other artists who so literally or thoroughly live their aesthetic? Babs Tarr maybe... Ed Piskor... Allred...
>he's also very clearly a sexual degenarate
Did the cross-dressing tip you off?
Amazing what you can get away with as long as you’ve got a confident self assured vibe.
In Hanselmann's visual dialect, a glossy pant stain like that is cum. One time Owl has a wet dream and is late and rushes to work with a load in his pants and it looks about like this
Dan Clowes, but thats cause he just draws depressed suburban males
can someone rip another story from bad gateway for us poorfriends?
So he's oozing like a teaspon of pre-cum thinking about taking advantage of Megg? But then why aren't there any other signs? He seems like he wants to kick her off benefits and he'll never see her again.
The artwork is gorgeous in this volume, he really leveled up
How many times does the wizard show up?
Ah, Mike. The low-key loser who'll never rise any higher but will never actually ruin his meager life.
A person that I can identify with.
Sometimes a penis is just a penis but unless we get another story with this guy in it i dont see any reason to doubt what he said about it being dressing.
This one is for you user
>Mogg actually crying because he has to be responsible now
Or is it because he realized what a disappointment he is to his dad? Or that his dad has given up on him after ten years of fruitless nominal adulthood?
and done
thank you user~
>tfw I find myself relating to wwj again
I just want to thank and bless everyone who uploads these
Mike shows up just once in this one, he works with Werewolf who's been clean for a few days due to a weed draught in the city (he looks like a regular white guy with a moustache sober and his coworkers call him Warehouse Jones). Mike offers Werewolf some pot and he hesitates. The next time they show Werewolf he's passed out and nude in Megg and Mogg's bathroom with a needle in his arm
Prolly 5 percent of the population in developed countries end up at least this bad(outside of truly cartoonist incidents)
It's based heavily on people the author knows in Australia. I'm Irish and there are definitely some deprived parts of my 100K population city where if you could enter all the houses you'd find some people living like this. Let me be clear that most people in those neighborhoods are good people in a society that doesn't care about them, but that leads to people just giving up.
HNNNNGGGG FUCK
Looks like it's going to be great. I think I'm going to buy this one lol.