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Who would win?
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Ian Green
I wanna see Steven try and talk his way out of fighting Bakugo
Colton Gray
The less calarts one
Aaron Russell
Deku has some overwhelming power on his side, same for Bakugo and Shoto. KO is probably their heaviest hitter, but I'm not sure he can deal with all the raw bullshit of Quirks.
Jace Baker
even if it doesn't work out, he'd still win in the end
>fire and explosion powers vs a fucking shield
Elijah Hughes
Depends if they have access to TKO / Ultimate KO as he is probably the heaviest hitter and could no sell getting frozen. Finn is probably the weakest here
Luke Carter
Steven,KO and Finn would would because there team has better balance. Steven can can provide defense and while the other 3 are all out attakers.
Evan Ross
The right side. KO outclasses all 3 in speed and is strong enough to contend with any of them. Steven's shields are tanky enough that he can keep the team defended and he can heal people whenever necessary. Finn is also no slouch either.
Easton Bailey
True, but CalArts side has the advantage of possible fusion.
Adrian Smith
Depends which sword he has.
Lucas Thomas
Steven isn't smart or fast like bakugan
Jason Moore
If Finn has the Blade of Grass he's pretty formidable, otherwise he's the real weak point of his team. Steven's Talk No Jutsu has never failed, though, so his team can't actually lose. No amount of OH MY SEVEN QUIRKS can stop Steven from blubbering and converting you to his side.
Andrew Turner
>Bakugan
Lmao. Steven has super speed though and a bubble for 360 defense.
Luis Jones
>other 3
>3
I... seem to be missing something
Christian Smith
I think the anime side.
Ryder Russell
It didn't work on Jasper, Aquamarine and failed against the Diamonds the first time around. Thankfully he has physical strength to back up his words.
Juan Reyes
That's just the thing, Steven's perfect defense will always buy him enough time to wear the opponent down and get them to see things his way. It's not the most thrilling combo, but it works.
Alexander Gonzalez
It failed against most of his major villains, and only worked on the Diamonds because his mom is their long thought dead sister/daughter. Fortunately for him, he's the second strongest on the team after KO.
Jose Rodriguez
Might be a Kevin thing.
Dylan Campbell
The difference between Kevin and Bakugo is that Kevin is at least likable. There's no reason I can see for why Bakugo was such a faggot to Deku.
Jace Cooper
Bakugo is a faggot to pretty much everyone. Only one he seems to somewhat be okay with is the red head rock bro and even then he is still a dick
Josiah Young
He’s just got a big head. That’s really it.
Jaxon Hill
Anywhere from 95% to 100% of the time a "what if a non Yea Forums related thing was a Yea Forums related thing" thread is created, it's for the sole purpose of discussing things that are neither comics, nor cartoons.
Yea Forums is not a refugee board.
Go back to Everyone else, report the OP for breaking >>>Yea Forumsrules/1
Liam Diaz
Don’t tell me what to do
Cooper Williams
Fights in MHA rarely last longer than a couple of moves, because in MHA the power scale is hard enough that you either lose instantly or you don't.
Todoroki, for example, and just shit ice at the battlefield and has a strong chance of just straight up immobilizing the righthand side entirely. Even if Steven bubbles, everything outside the bubble is a giant wall of ice that they are going to have trouble breaking their way out of.
Todoroki and Bakugo both have really strong area denial that prevents KO and Finn from getting close without being destroyed. Deku and Bakugo also both have a stronger grasp of tactics than anyone on the righthand side does, considering that Finn is just a simple fighter and Steven is more diplomacy and support.
The lefthand side all have varying degrees of ranged attacks, whereas the righthand side really doesn't.
Unless Steven is successful at diplomacy, I don't see how the righthand side can actually win the fight. They have a lot of ways to stall, but no good ways to win. Getting within striking range of any of the MHA characters pictured there would be a very bad idea.
Austin Perry
I think KO has energy attacks.
Grayson King
steven is way too durable for them to break
they would just get tired after spamming attacks at him all day
Nathaniel Jones
Building level vs mountain levels... right.
Camden Williams
>you either lose instantly or you don't.
I mean... that's true of literally any fight ever.
Andrew Ross
TKO would most likely brute force through the ice if he is in play. KO also has some range game.
Grass sword Finn can also cut through the ice. Really it comes down to Steven being the tank and them working as a team
Ethan Myers
Kys. Pedo.
Oliver Cook
Dilate
Justin Moore
Yeah, I could have conveyed that better.
What I mean is that fights in MHA almost never last multiple minutes like they do in most anime or cartoons. Because MHA has a hard rock-paper-scissors element to it.
Todoroki turns everything within 80 ft of you into an ice wall. Do you have something that keeps you from getting BTFO instantly? If not, the fight is over in the first three seconds. However, if you DO have something to counter all of that Ice, now Todoroki is the one at the disadvantage because thats his primary way to win fights. It either works and he wins, or doesn't work and he's in trouble. There isn't really room there for a back and forth slugfest.
Likewise Deku and Bakugo. if you don't have a way to survive their massive firepower, getting caught by any of their attacks can be expected to totally wreck you. But if you have the invulnerability or whatever to tank their attacks, they quickly start running out of options and have to get clever.
The righthand side has the defense provided by Steven, but they can't attack while that defense is up so that leaves them in a situation where they can stall for time, but the moment they actually try to go for the win they are vulnerable to getting totally destroyed.
Easton Hill
A guy with ice powers? If only Finn knew how to deal with someone like that.
Ethan Brown
Disappointing. At least with dickheads like Gary Oak they eventually get character development and become better people.
Jonathan James
Thing is, Ice King is a dumbass. A dumbass with power that dwarfs pretty much anything in MHA, but still a dumbass. He never once goes for the kill against Finn and Jake, and seemingly even goes so far as to hold himself back for their sake. It's implied that if he wasn't insane and so desperate for companionship, Ice King could very easily kill both of them.
Todoroki doesn't have the same limitations. Whilst he might not *kill* Finn, he isn't going to hold back nearly as much as Ice King.
Christopher Brown
To be fair Ice King is retarded and played for comedy while Shoto has been training with his papa since he could walk to be the world's greatest hero. He also goes for the instant KO whenever he can, and let's not forget that he has incredibly powerful flames that he has been learning to use (see his fight against Tetsu & friends in the manga) and not just ice.
Landon Robinson
I was thinking more, fighting in an icy environment
Jacob Rivera
>Todoroki could freeze them
KO could blow it back with a powerfist or break out if frozen and Steven's bubble can be expanded and weaponized with spikes. He could probably smash apart the ice around him.
>KO and Finn can't get close
At least in KO's case he is FAR faster than any of the Academia team. He could close the distance quickly and he is definitely strong enough to push the attacks back. Not so sure about Finn though.
>Right has no ranged attacks
KO's power fist is very powerful and has a longer range than any of Academia team and to someone as tanky as Steven ranged attacks aren't going to be that big a deal.
Caleb Rivera
Finn is useless, but i think Steven and K.O can take on ice zuko
Brandon Bailey
I win becuase I get to see a bunch of shotas fight each other OwO
Thomas Murphy
I feel like you are imagining something more like what Ice King does or what Mr Freeze uses for an 'ice' power.
This is what it looks like when Todoroki uses his ice. And he was only aiming at a guy who was like 10 ft away from him.
Dylan Gray
Only KO qualifies as a shota. Everyone else is a teenager.
Grayson Russell
First of all the only reason he immediately did that was because he was really pissed.
Secondly as I said before KO is way faster than any of those 3. Chances are he could close the distance before he even has time to get an attack off.
Thirdly, KO and especially TKO could overpower his attacks just like Deku did in his fight against Todoroki.
Isaac Robinson
That doesn't seem much faster than Deku with full cowling, which Bakugo can just barely keep up with. Its way faster that Todoroki is, but I'm not seeing that much of an advantage over the other two here.
Ryder Cox
K.OFinnSteven (KOFS?) fusion could be what calarts needs to bridge the offensive power gap, since KOFS gets the combined speed, strength, powers and experience of the three of them. Grass Sword in one hand, Rose Shield in the other, and K.O.s speed and strength would make him a formidible foe.
HOWEVER, OfA may just be TOO large a gap to bridge. The speed, and more importantly, raw power Deku wields means that even a bubble/shield may not be enough to beat the Yea Forums team. It really does look to be a case of unstoppable force vs immovable object. Can end-show Steven, where his shield was at its most potent, stand up to the overwhelming head-on blow of a Deku smash or kick? In their respective shows, both are seen as the ultimate force, never to be stopped/broken once their power is mastered.
Logan Green
If TKO is being thrown into this I'd say he is the flat out strongest of all combatants and can probably just bulldoze through their attacks. Has TKO ever been beaten in a straight fight yet?
Logan Gray
Deku's power hurts him, doesn't it? Steven's shield doesn't hurt him to use. Seems like Steven would win by attrition.
Luke Clark
We know Rose’s shield was able to block a combined attack from the Diamonds light years away. And Steven’s supposed to be even stronger.
Lucas Campbell
>Finn
>Weakest
Wew lads, guess someone didn't watch the cartoon
Eli Adams
What can he do?
Luke Cooper
OK KO characters have been shown to be FTE on multiple occasions. Only high tier speed characters like All Might have been shown to operate at that kind of speed. Deku isn't that fast with full cowling.
Ethan Taylor
Daniel Bell
Also to keep my case for KO going. Here is how powerful one of his powerfists can get and he's managed even more powerful attacks than that. His power in PKO mode was enough to control a plaza sized mecha. He has been shown to be able to jump hundreds of feet into the air. Also he has survived around 20 pounds of plutonium exploding next to him.
Dylan Morgan
How fast is steven cause if you think bakugo cant get around that sheild i got some bad news for you
Nolan Morris
Steven has bubble
Liam Nelson
Yep and it was strong enough to survive a fall from space to a planet.
John Perez
Pretty fast, at least as fast as any quartz.
Well if you wanna get technical the ship did the entry stuff, but the bubble did survive the crash itself
Kayden Fisher
>Deku's power hurts him,
Only if he use his max power which is greater than Peak All-Might. Deku can use ~30% of his max power without injuring himself. Can attack from the distances by launching air bullets or attacking with his black rape tentacles.
Josiah Peterson
>SHUT THE FUCK UP KUSOGA!! NO I DO NOT CRY MYSELF TO SLEEP KNOWING DEKU WILL ALWAYS BE ONE STEP AHEAD OF ME!!
Cooper Watson
Still pretty damn strong.
Angel Anderson
"You've got a lot in common, you really do"
Nolan Long
Holy shit this direction/animation is so awful
Nicholas Scott
>Calart
>good animation
Aaron Adams
Ship
Colton Russell
Gravity falls has good animation and its Cal-ish. So it depends on the user.
Josiah Diaz
you guys are vastly underestimating Steven's support kit
-Bubbles can block attacks from all sides
-summonable, nigh indestructible shields that can be made bigger
-saliva can cure any wound or ailment
-tears can resurrect the dead as superpowered pink zombies
-high diplomacy
Gavin Lewis
Whats Steven's bubble best durability feat? and how long can it last? Whats stopping the fire nigga from just roasting him until the bubble ends?
Kevin Nelson
It can last in deep space. Don’t people get crushed by the pressure in deep space?
Jackson Brooks
Theres negative pressure in deep space
Camden Stewart
What about that Schwarzenegger movie where that guy’s head exploded in space?
Alexander Stewart
Lmao
you fucking idiot
Ethan Brooks
There's basically no pressure in space, retard.
Joshua Jackson
Bubble is inconsistent. Its as strong as the plot needs it to be, but on occasion it does get burst by powerful enemy attacks.
So, like, it protects a group of people from an exploding spaceship, or survives the pressure of the bottom of the ocean, but it also gets popped by a strong punch from a bad guy.
Nolan Allen
I must have been thinking about the bottom of the ocean.
Connor Bennett
Thats not pressure, again, that's negative pressure. His eyes were being sucked out, not squeezed out
Jaxon Flores
Is the bubble protecting Steven from negative pressure anything special?
Isaac James
No
Easton Diaz
About as special as your average astronaut suit.
Carter Rogers
Well I did love The Martian.
Cameron James
What if he does the pink wave?
Josiah Morris
basically, for a bubble in space, the pressure would be coming from inside trying to erupt out, rather than being applied to the outside
the negative pressure in space is 1.322 × 10−11 Pa, unfortunately I don't know enough about physics to know how this translated to the internal pressure of the bubble
Jack Parker
Finn suprisingly has really good feats
He's fast enough to dodge sound, strong enough to lift a huge monster and throw it over him, and durable enough to get hit from a number of powerful Ooo entities
just the show doesnt like to give him wins later on in the show for whatever reason
Isaac Gomez
Can he still do ice jutsu?
Jeremiah Rivera
all of steven's abilities are based on self-confidence, particularly his shield/bubble. if he's in bad shape its not great, if he's at his peak its pretty indestructible.
Ayden Jackson
>all of steven's abilities are based on self-confidence
Kallark/Gladiator knows that feel.
Juan Brown
KO is level 4 now and has been shown strong enough to punch a full-sized dragon weighing multiple tons across the horizon. Plus he has spammable energy projection, fast movements, and unlike Deku, super durability. He's basically superior to Deku in every way, so should take the fight pretty easily.
Steven has super strength, bubble, spike bubble, mega jump, shield, shapeshifting, regeneration, and creating humanoid plant monsters. His shield has been shown to be able to deflect just about everything that's been thrown at it, so there doesn't really seem like there'd be much that Bakugo could throw at him to actually take him out. Plus the reflect ability Steven's shield means that Bakugo could just end up having the force of his explosions thrown right back at him.
Finn is basically worthless, and while Todoroki has shown some trouble against sword wielders in the past, in a reasonable confrontation Finn just gets incinerated at the start.
Todoroki would have more trouble with the other two. KO has survived and broken out of being frozen solid and burned to a crisp, and Steven's defensive powers would block it. With KO on projectile offense and Steven on defense, it seems unlikely he could take them down.
Adam Howard
Or maybe Finn dodges and dabs
Camden Ward
You are forgetting that the MHA side of this fight is actually good at tactics, and the calarts side is not.
Bakugo rushes in using explosions for rapid mid air direction changes. Stevene brings up the shield, but the shield only faces one way, and Bakugo just vaults over it, forcing Steven to raise his bubble.
The thing about the bubble is that the bubble isn't rooted to the ground: with hit with force, it tends to bounce around. Bakugo just has to make a big enough explosion and Steven and his bubble go flying off into the distance, taking Steven out of the fight even though he hasn't been harmed. By the time he gets back, the fight is going to be long over.
Finn loses a direct confrontation wit either Deku or Todoroki, but lets be kind and say he gets nonlethally encased in ice.
This leaves KO in a 3v1, and while KO might be strong than either of them individually he isn't going to last long against concentrated fire from a team. His powerfist honestly isn't that strong, and he can't take the kind of punishment that the MHA side of things can dish out for very long. He'll survive a hit or two, but they can just keep up the pressure and keep him on the defensive, like how the Stain fight went.
Dylan Sullivan
Steven trains daily with Pearl, and in the one canon comic--ie, the graphic novel where he goes to school for a bit--it was shown that she educates him as well, undoubtedly with a bunch of tactics.
Finn is whatever.
KO is battle hardened. He spent a year fighting villains on a daily basis, and now he's going out on missions from the president of the universe all over.
They're not lacking in the experience and tactics part.
Bakugo sends bubble Steven flying, Steven breaks the bubble, then summons up a shield in his path and super jumps right back into the fight. Bakugo tries the same trick again, but this time Steven surprises him with two shields, reflecting the attack right back at him. Bakugo is out of the fight.
Again, KO has soundly defeated a dragon, and he did it with a single punch, and this is after that same dragon shrugged off a warhead missile.
OK KO as a show parodies dragon ball z level antics combined with toon force. Rad, who is at the same level as KO, was shown to be able to create fissures on a planet hundreds of times bigger than the grand canyon as a sight gag when giving a handshake. Even if it was 3v1, it's hard to imagine how they could throw anything at KO powerful enough to beat him, and shounen heroes are notably weak to toonforce, see Vegeta vs Arale.
Oliver Cox
Finn definitely has more experience out of the six. He’s been adventuring all his life.
Xavier Ortiz
I think Finn isn't getting enough credit here. He has some solid durability and has a lot of strength feats involving smash apart large gemstones. Also Steven has good mobility in the air. He could probably make his way back down easily and don't really imagine Bakugo getting in a good enough hit to send him flying when KO is fast enough to quickly intercept him and strong enough to probably put him down in a few moves. KO alone if you consider TKO and PKO forms could give All Might a good fight.
Christian Turner
Aside from fighting skills and knowing how to use a sword, Finn is nothing compared to everyone else. Finn doesn't have magical powers nor any strength that can withstand the MHA side's powers.
Joseph Sanchez
What if we swap out Finn for Danny Phantom?
Leo Bennett
Kinda breaks up the CN theme but in that case, MHA side loses hard.
Nathan Jackson
What said. Between flight, intangibility, possession, invisibility, energy blasts, and sonic wails he is pretty much impossible to counter. That and I think people are underestimating Finn a bit. He has some good feats.
Anthony Clark
That school comic isn't canon I'm pretty sure.
steven-universe.fandom.com
Jayden Taylor
mobile.twitter.com
Confirmation of that.
Mason Brown
I love Finn but he might as well be dead weight
Carter Lopez
All yall forgetting Steven's ace in the hole
True, Steven has already used up the one Uncle Grandpa Adventure he gets in a lifetime. But that leaves KO and Finn. If either of them are having life issues that day the MHA boys are toast.
Of course, the MHA kids get an UG adventure too, being kids with problems. Deku and Todoroki would get straight up adventures, but Bakugo would be the kind of kid UG would give tough love to, like the teenager who wanted to sneak out.
Chase Thomas
>Bakugo tries the same trick again
clearly you have not seen Bakugo fight
my money is on Deku vs KO
Deku vs KO Tie cuss of TKO
Bakugo vs Steven Bakugo
Todoroki vs Finn Todoroki
Deku vs Finn Deku
Bakugo vs KO KO/TKO
Todoroki vs Steven Todoroki
Deku vs Steven Deku
Bakugo vs Finn Finn
Todoroki vs OK Todoroki
Samuel Robinson
Who would target who?
Jaxon Flores
You're giving baku too much credit. The biggest drawback to the MHA side is the One Quirk Rule.
This means that unless it's specifically a part of their quirk, a bullet to the head is enough to kill them. Anything more powerful than that is also enough to kill them. All three are totally glass cannons.
One super strength punch from Steven would be enough to take out Bakugo. Or hitting him with the shield throw. Or reflecting his attack. Or rolling over him in spike ball.
Even Finn with a sword could oneshot any of the boys with a lucky swing.
Think of it like this.
Deku: 99 str, 50 agi, 1 HP
Bakugo: 5 strength, 1 HP, can cast explosion with a range of touch at will.
Todoroki: 4 strength, 1 hp, can cast fireball and ice wall at will.
Finn: 10 strength, 10 agi, 50 hp
Steven: 50 strength, 30 agi, 1000 hp
OK KO: 99 strength, 99 agi, 10,000 hp
Cooper Clark
You guys are also leaving out Steven's fusion ability. If he could fuse with his team mates, either one or both, the MHA boys are done.
Ayden Rivera
>Steven and KO fuse
>It's just Ruby
Xavier Bell
Finniven would be an absolute beast. Stevonnie is already a tougher combatant than Steven alone, switch out 'five days of training' Connie for lifelong adventurer Finn and shit is getting fucked up.
John Morris
Don't count out Steko.
Oliver Murphy
KO with Steven's extra strength added on top of all of Steven's powers included would solo MHA team. Honestly I'm pretty sure he could take on All Might at that point.
Kevin Thomas
lmao
Dominic Gomez
Bakugo does get character development
But he doesn't become more likeable, you just understand him and his reasoning more. Granted his reasoning is that he's paranoid that the kid he bullied was secretly laughing behind his back, making his boastful and arrogant personality as a child look foolish. Then again, anime characters are extreme exaggerations of how a normal person would behave and react to everyday shit.
Blake Garcia
Isn't steven like fucking stronk?
Samuel Johnson
>superhuman strength
>high speed combatant
ggez no re
Michael Adams
I think Mob and Steven would be friends
Colton Bennett
Finn solos easily unless it's farmworld finn
Grayson Allen
>Six armed Man that has all of K.O, Steven and Finn's skills, abilities and Trainning
>Plus it will probably be able to use multiple of Finn's different swords.
Now that sounds awesome.
Evan Anderson
be made irrelevant
Cooper Ross
He's seen lifting the drill of a planet-destryoing injector in the trailer - to the point that his gem is glowing. Now, we've never actually seen Steven have to tap into his gem to lift stuff. I predict shit will get real.
Mob is a good boy.
Hunter Sanchez
>You're giving baku too much credit. The biggest drawback to the MHA side is the One Quirk Rule.
Deku: super strength, tactics
Bakugo: napom sweat, tactics
Todoroki: Ice and Fire, tactics
Steven: shield, healing spit, float
OK: super strength
Finn: sword tactics
>This means that unless it's specifically a part of their quirk, a bullet to the head is enough to kill them. Anything more powerful than that is also enough to kill them. All three are totally glass cannons.
Wouldn't this apply to KO, Steven and Finn too?
>One super strength punch from Steven would be enough to take out Bakugo. Or hitting him with the shield throw. Or reflecting his attack. Or rolling over him in spike ball.
Bakugo could melt Steven face off and that would be enough to take out Steven.
>Even Finn with a sword could oneshot any of the boys with a lucky swing.
Todoroki could just Burn everything around him to ash and kill all three.
try using your brain and think it out instead of picking the one you like.
Hudson Thomas
They’ve shown durability, anytime they’ve handled getting tossed around by monsters, Steven’s been slammed into the ground from pretty high heights and just gets back up.
Sebastian Powell
Try using YOUR brain instead of blatant fanboyism.
How many adventures has Finn had in the fire kingdom?
Steven has a bubble he can stay in indefinitely until Bakugo burns out.
KO has toon force on his side.
Carter Wood
>They’ve shown durability, anytime they’ve handled getting tossed around by monsters, Steven’s been slammed into the ground from pretty high heights and just gets back up.
This is every episode of MHA
Andrew Flores
>Todoroki could just Burn everything around him to ash and kill all three
Steven would just bubble him and his team mates
I don't think you actually know how the non-MHA powers work.
Caleb Peterson
Does Steven have access to Lion or his mum's sword?
Brandon Moore
>How many adventures has Finn had in the fire kingdom?
without a suit?
>Steven has a bubble he can stay in indefinitely until Bakugo burns out.
Bakugo would shatter that bubble
>KO has toon force on his side.
Deku has plot armor
Thomas Taylor
Connie uses both of those, mostly because Steven doesn't need them. If they were allowed back-up then I imagine Lion etc. would be viable
Hudson Scott
>Bakugo would shatter that bubble
Highly unlikely.
Nathan Diaz
God, I love this boy so much.
Brandon Torres
>Bakugo would shatter that bubble
He says based on nothing
>Deku has plot armor
All the protagonists have plot armour, which means Steven, KO and Finn are also plot armoured but Deku's team mates aren't.
Bentley Cook
I'd like to see what asspull Deku brings out to negate Steven's bubble.
Andrew Howard
>Steven would just bubble him and his team mates
Deku would Smash Steven bubble
Jaxson Hall
The very last episode of the anime showed and the rest of the class (aside from todoroki and bakugo) getting stomped by Mirio, who only has the offensive power of "a teenage boy who works out every day".
And the only reason Todoroki and Bakugo weren't there was to avoid humiliating them because the author wanted to protect their image.
Low durability is a feature of the setting. In the fight of Deku vs Todoroki, it wasn't that Deku shrugged off the hits, it's that he couldn't afford to get hit even once.
In the fight against Bakugo, it's not that he could take Bakugo's explosions, it's that Bakugo was purposefully holding back because just a bit more force would kill him, with Deku holding back as well so he wouldn't kill Bakugo.
Meanwhile, Steven has taken a ton of hits from giant monsters and gem soldiers and been just fine. The most he's ever gotten was a black eye, and he regenerated the damage as soon as he had his confidence back.
Nathan Young
>bakugoat would shatter that bubble
do you even belief it yourself?
Alexander Collins
Everyone has plot armor. Except maybe Finn.
Charles Wilson
that shield is strong, IT blocks spaceship lasers and the laser attack by the diamonds.
Hunter Nelson
Have you seen how they bring down tall buildings without destroying the other building around them.
Xavier Williams
totoon force is plot armor
Anthony Torres
It was recenly revealed that all of the previous OFA users (with the exception of All Might) have their own individual quirks aside from OFA. Those quirks became part of OFA, allowing Deku to unlock them one by one. So yeah, Deku can just asspull an ability .
Liam Collins
He’s not the only one. So can Steven to counter.
Jordan Cooper
>Bakugo would shatter that bubble
Steven's bubble has withstood a roller coaster crashing into it, a space ship crash, and the crushing pressure of the bottom of the ocean.
When Steven is in his bubble, he doesn't get out unless he WANTS to get out.
You're not arguing in good faith here, man. You're clearly here to jerk off MHA.
Michael Robinson
If Ko goes PKO or TKO he gets flight powers, he also has the power fists projectiles in all forms
Kayden Hernandez
That's true, I hadn't considered that. I was thinking of the older episodes/issues, where Deku faced a challenging quirk and he had to think his way around it. It made for more entertaining and dramatic fights. I hope Horikoshi doesn't lean too heavily on OFA's multiquirks in the future. So that said, how could Deku, with Bakugo and chuuni-Zuko, out-smart Steven's gemtech soul bubble and Talk no Jutsu?
Josiah Jackson
Replace Steven with Stevonnie and it's a more interesting fight. Considering Steven never really fights people he doesn't know.
David Diaz
Steven's strength + gem powers + Connie's intelligence + sword training is way too OP here honestly.
Daniel Flores
Deku wouldn't be immune to Steven's talk no jutsu, but Bakugo being the biggest shonen cunt this side of Sasuke would set off the fight anyway by being a massive cunt.
Jaxson Parker
>The very last episode of the anime showed and the rest of the class (aside from todoroki and bakugo) getting stomped by Mirio, who only has the offensive power of "a teenage boy who works out every day".
Deku saw though his tactics and would of won if he had more fighting experience.
>And the only reason Todoroki and Bakugo weren't there was to avoid humiliating them because the author wanted to protect their image.
Todoroki and Bakugo have more fighting experience that the whole class and would of stop him.
>Low durability is a feature of the setting. In the fight of Deku vs Todoroki, it wasn't that Deku shrugged off the hits, it's that he couldn't afford to get hit even once.
Deku literally broke his arms, fingers, and leg to fight.
>In the fight against Bakugo, it's not that he could take Bakugo's explosions, it's that Bakugo was purposefully holding back because just a bit more force would kill him, with Deku holding back as well so he wouldn't kill Bakugo.
which fight?
youtube.com
literally took an explosion to the hand and face
youtube.com
there trying to be heroes not villains
>Meanwhile, Steven has taken a ton of hits from giant monsters and gem soldiers and been just fine. The most he's ever gotten was a black eye, and he regenerated the damage as soon as he had his confidence back.
all this is plot armor, unlike Deku that has a broken arm for two episodes and may lose the ability to use his right arm in the future.
Liam Nguyen
>all this is plot armor
No its not, its hybrid durability. Steven's unusual toughness and strength are acknowledge as being from his gem (diamond) heritage. You don't know what plot armour actually is.
Charles King
I totally for forgot about TKO flight.
Joshua Perry
The dude is an alien demigod.
Easton Brooks
Deku only has the whips so far, steven has like ten extra abilities:
>Super strengh
>Shield and bouble
>jumping inside people´s dreams and mind controlling them while they are sleeping
>Bringing people back from the dead
>Healing
>Shapeshifting (poorly)
>The ability to create plant soldiers
Half of those are useless in a direct fight or need prep time though.
Jordan Gutierrez
Mirio was basically the Robin of MHA and was trained by his universe's Batman. And with the addition of his phasing powers, of course he would had won. Outside of Deku, everyone in the class were over reliant on their quirks and had no cqc experience.
Christopher Ross
you forgot his featherfall/float ability
Wyatt Bailey
>jumping inside people´s dreams and mind controlling them while they are sleeping
Classic Xavier School of Mind Rape technique.
Brayden Brooks
You all easily forget Pink Steven
Brandon Jackson
Steven has a lot of bullshit preptime options. Including raising an army of murder plants, bodyjacking, and fusion.
Caleb Kelly
Uncle Grandpa giving Bakugo tough love would be horrifying and or hilarious
James Rodriguez
Could kill a Diamond
Blake Lopez
Don't forget TKO also has the power to drain foes of there own power too.
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at 16:28 to 16:37.
Ethan Reyes
Scratch that, reverse it. They suffocate and their corpse boils.
Nathaniel Perry
That's a pretty large gamble considering the trade-off is he might die and Pink Steven has no desire but to be reunited with his other half.
Robert Thomas
Yeah, no real way to really test that.
Levi White
Are MHA characters gems?
Isaac Sanders
Finn hasn’t been formidable in YEARS.
>just the show doesnt like to give him wins later on in the show for whatever reason
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Lincoln Howard
If the writers of AT properly let Finn branch out and grow from say, season 3 or so, then he’d be pretty badass. Problem is the writers did everything in their power to NOT give Finn power ups and such to reinforce his “maturity” arcs and whatever BS.
S1-4 Finn would absolutely demolish S5-10Finn in a fight
Kevin Gutierrez
So what matchups would this end down to? Finn vs Shouto, KO vs Bakugou and Steven vs Deku? Or other ones?
Cooper Green
Oh, fuck! I forgot about that.
And that's totally laserblast´s power I wonder if they´ll give him carol´s copy ability in the future, kinda like Todoroki gets his mother and father´s powers.
Easton Roberts
KO VS Deku seems more fun given their similar personalities. Bakugo vs Steven is fun for the exact opposite.
Jaxson Kelly
I'm pretty sure he will get Carol's Powers too at some point in Season 3. that's t.b.h a very dangerous combo of abilities and I love it.
Asher Reyes
I stopped watching after he got the Finn sword, does it have any powers?
except merging with the grass sword
Andrew Gray
Doubles his stats
Dylan Johnson
No Not really and he loses it soon after anyways
Ian Price
That would be badass
Jason Young
Gambles are how you win.
Ryan Ward
maybe whit the grass sword he can counter deku because he would win in close combat, but even then deku can just punch the air whit enought strenght to just send him flaying
people are giving too much credit to steven, we hadnt seen move steven and im sure he is getting a power up, but show steven is not a great fighter and without fusions he isnt really that big of a treat
Isaac Morgan
doesnt look that impresive really
and this looks played for jokes and anime references more than anything
im not really buying this thing about KO being a real OP monster like what you are trying to sell me
Easton Morgan
>preptime options
a yes how much times does bat man have to prepare to fight the sun made of lions?
Robert Hill
mob would teach steven a lot of lessons, fuck why is mob so good? comparing him to steven makes steven look like shit
Robert Wilson
Because Steven is shit and never learn to do anything himself. Also overly dependent on his powers. Mob possess godlike powers but seeks to improve himself through the power and love of muscles.
Isaiah Bennett
Steven trains all the time, what do you think those missions are for? Don't use Mob to shit on Steven, it demeans both characters and isn't the point of the thread in the first place.
Connor Brown
All he'd have to do is overshadow Deku, have him use too much power, and Deku and at least one of the other two are out of the fight, if not all 3 from the explosion. And he can just turn intanglible to avoid the explosion once he leaves Deku's body. It'd be easy.
Luis Nguyen
Can't possess Deku due to the interference from OFA and its predecessors.
Sebastian Martin
It has their souls?
Jace Sanchez
A portion of the previous OFA wielder's spirit is imprinted into OFA. They can intervene if Deku is being possessed or mind control. Think Avatar State but without the reincarnation aspect.
Caleb Ross
It literally does. Anyone who tells you "Quirks are purely biolgical" is a fucking liar.
Ryder Morales
I know a lot of them are super weird like Stain’s or Shinsou’s
Isaac Harris
I kinda picture that scene from the Waterboy with Steven and Bakugou. Right before Bobby piledrives that huge football player.
Nathan Martin
Both Mob and Steven rely on others plenty. Dimple and Reigan have saved his ass more times than I can count.
At the same time, Steven has solved problems on his own plenty of times too, from all the way back in Together Breakfast to when he ended the conflict with the Diamonds.
James Cooper
Steven wins by exploiting there many emotional issues.
Lucas Johnson
Well that's the problem isn't it? Outside of Bakugo (and maybe Finn?) no one in this team deathmatch actually wants a fight.
Grayson Cooper
I just figured it was Death Battle rules
Levi Hughes
Those 2 can fight while the rest of them go for some ice cream. Ice cream solves everything.
Angel Ward
I don't think Carol's power is actually copying abilities, her power is that weird ghost-hand-grabby-push thing, her copy ability is just from her attention to detail, I guess. They mention it back in the first POINT flashback episode.