>Refusing to allow a single human, not even diplomats, to even set foot on their island
>Planting Krakoa seeds all over the planet without permission, and claiming that every habitat that grows from there belongs to mutants only
>Demanding a complete pardon for all mutant criminals, including unrepentant mass murderers like Sabretooth, Mystique, Exodus, Vulcan...
>Sending an unrepentant mass murderer on a black ops mission breaking into a government building and mauling several guards to death, and then demanding his release
>Creating their own artificial fake language to distance themselves from humanity
>Trying to recruit a reality-warping teenage boy away from his loving family to use as a weapon
>Proclaiming themselves the Gods of the New World
>The X-Men are OK with all of this even though they thought that Cyclops had gone too far despite not having done even a fraction of these things
So "Xavier" is brainwashing the X-Men, right? Because there's no way all of them would be on board with this.
Refusing to allow a single human, not even diplomats, to even set foot on their island
Only one guard may have died. Otherwise, it's not that bad, leave them alone, benefit from miracle drugs.
To think like a Krakoan, try thinking like an Israeli.
They miracle drugs are a Trojan Horse. They probably either cause sterility or activate the X-gene.
HoX mutants aren't subtle about how they're waiting around for their version of a great replacement.
Yeah, House and Power of X have some confusing shit going on. Like, Xavier now championing a separated view and establishing a “mutant culture” seems more Ultimate Magneto schtick.
We still don’t know what the big “changes everything we know about X-Men” turn/retcon is going to be or how so many of the mutants who died came back this time (probably those Krakatoa pods).
My takes are the secret is going to have to do with Moira.
Xavier is being unduly influenced by the mind/minds of Phantomex or is somehow sharing space with Shadowking and doesn’t know it. He’s exerting his influence on the X-Men certainly, both emotional manipulation and psychic.
Doug mastering a secret language between himself and Krakatoa is fascinating and an interesting thing to do with his power set.
Magneto is wearing the Helmet and is down for Charles pulling into his usual lane, unaware something more sinister than his own modis operandi is going on.
Cain Marko should be allowed on Krakatoa full stop. Even as a human. Even though he was depowered by the destruction of the Crimson Gem of Cytorrak and cast into an unknown lower plane by demonette Magik. When they came for the mutants, he said something.
How are they gonna address Emma making the world forget Mutants and now this shit?
>"Xavier"
still forcing the Maker meme huh? this brainwashing theory won't work since Ultimate Reed is not a telepath
>How are they gonna address Emma making the world forget Mutants
The last issue of Rosenberg's run reversed it. The X-Men decided that they didn't want to hide from the world forever, so they broke Emma's machine and everybody remembered mutants again.
>Krakatoa Krakatoa Krakatoa Krakatoa
Its Krakoa
Kamala is so adorable here. I want her to meet Hickman's Scott to crush her heart
I realize my mistake as a phone poster and will commit sudoku without being asked or told.
*blocks your path*
I say we nuke the Mutant scum
Not to mention we already have the script that outright says it's Xavier and that's his new costume, with a helmet clearly influenced by Morrison's X-Men (which Hickman claimed it was an inspiration). But plebs will be plebs.
Why do he looks like a teenager?
Vulcan is alive?
I hopeing Kamala make Cyclops see some sensing into what he's doing. Maybe a MS' Marvel Tie-ins?
He's listed in one of the charts as an Omega-level mutant aligned with Krakoa. He's also on the cover of the X-Men #1 relaunch in October. The naked guy with shiny eyes Xavier is touching is probably him
MAy be they finally understood humans are scum and cohabitation is not worth the bullshit they have gone through
the going theory is the x men we've seen so far are pod people created by Xmaker.
I can't help but think the 'randomly using old costumes' thing is just a set up to eventually have the real x men fighting hordes of their clones who are dressed in various old costumes.
>inhumans do this. bad!
>x-men do this. good!
The Inhumans at their worst were still more open and accepting of outsiders than Krakoa.
If we are back to Mutant births increasing then how is Krakoa going to fit everyone?
He'd likely give her a sanctimonious sermon about the Royals and their crimes as a way to justify how they're in the right given their closer affinities with humanity as their successors, while the inhumans were "foreign rulers" imposing their will upon Earth. Pure bunk if you ask me.
Doubtful she'd get through him but at least they'd try to hug it out again.
what you gonna do about it flatscanner?
They'll just plant Krakoa flowers in other places and then claim those habitats for mutants too.
I still think that the big change in the status quo should be that the Mutants all go to live in a parallel universe, leaving a team (the X-men) on the 616 with the task of bridging the link between two worlds.
1.Mutants and Inhumans are both still humans.2.Inhumans previous Royals family the Inhumans country is now a democracy.3 The Inhumans country is still the same city it has always been the on the moon.
The X-Men are also stock piling Broken asf People. Most dangerous Inhumans to Humanity normally find in Attilan are Black Bolt, Crystal and Maximus the Mad. Meanwhile the X-Men have like 5 omega level mutant on there one of which being Vulcan.
Arctilan was destroyed in one of the latest Cates abominations, so now they have New Attilan, out of the coast in New Jersey, where Iso is the leader and indeed have a democracy.
>and indeed have a democracy.
Why do series always fucking do this shit.
what happened to jean's jeanies?
It makes sense in the context though. They did it as a way to reject the Royals and to establish their autonomy, specially now that they were in sovereign territory.
Plus you forget these were NuHumans, who came from countries with democracies (flawed or working), so it stands to reason they would replicate the system. The Royals were moon denizens and before their base, they lived in the Himalayas... So not exactly connected with the rest of the world.
I love democracy.
I assume you're thinking of Wakanda. They've basically become a Constitutional Monarchy, where T'Challa no longer has absolute authority, but still does all of the stuff that superhero plots require him to do, while freeing him from the boring stuff that a Prime Minister can do instead.
Just another example of how Muties are scum, even worse than Inhumans, but forgiven because their persecution complex is even louder and whinier.
Just you wait till the Avengers get here.
>even worse than Inhumans, but forgiven because their persecution complex is even louder and whinier.
She have no persecution complex.
>he's never heard of a misdirect before
>who came from countries with democracies (flawed or working)
Iso is from China, her only context for government is an authoritarian dictatorship backed by a politically scheming politburo.
So you're going to ignore the Maker already busy in Venom and Future Foundation, as well as the overt allusions to him simply wearing a new minimal outfit, just to keep the retarded idea that it isn't Xavier? Cool.
Then that makes her the perfect successor for the monarchical rule of the Royals. I see this as a win! But seriously they're mostly Americans and Europeans, it adds up.
>Then that makes her the perfect successor for the monarchical rule of the Royals. I see this as a win! But seriously they're mostly Americans and Europeans, it adds up.
>Iso is from China, her only context for government is an authoritarian dictatorship backed by a politically scheming politburo.
Do not forget the Inhumans country is in USA a democracy.
It’s a living island, it’ll just grow bigger.
What happens when the x-men try to plant one of those krakoa buds on Ego?
>>Demanding a complete pardon for all mutant criminals, including unrepentant mass murderers like Sabretooth, Mystique, Exodus, Vulcan...
Magneto, and Proteus are probably better examples than Exodus and Vulcan, they've killed people but mostly during actual wars, and wars fought in space for Vulcan. Even Apocalypse tends not to mass-murder people in person.
If Black Bolt survived, why would you think Vulcan was dead?
Have you seen the page where Logan is blissfully playing around with children? It's obvious all of them are drinking the kool-aid. Telepath genocide when?
Didn't Red Skull grafted Xavier's brain to his own and gained his telepathic powers for a while? Maybe Red Skull's Nazi ideologies are still grafted to Xavier's psyche because COMICS!
That was just Xavier's biological brain, which was eventually completely destroyed by Rogue. Xavier's mind/astral form/soul was stuck in the Astral Plane playing games with the Shadow King for what to him was many years, and then he returned to the "real world" by taking over Fantomex' body.
They're not the real X-men. They're clones or hybrid clones like this chick.
I didn't really follow the recent X-men Stuff. Where does this Xavier come from?
How exactly is Krakoa a mutant when it's just an island that was changed by radiation? To be a mutant as opposed to a mutate, you need to be born with an X-Gene.
It's a hold over from when mutants were children of the atom, before x-gene shit got ridiculous.
Setting aside the issue of trusting publicly released information from the writer, which could be used as a form of meta deception, it could also be a layered deception with them intentionally designing Xavier to look like the Maker as a red herring.
As for the Inhumans, even a mostly Euro and American population would have a lot of disagreements as to how exactly a democracy should be run. Americans would want a heavily balanced system with major parties, Brits would want a strong legislative branch with major parties and an executive that springs from the controlling party, the French would want an incredibly strong executive, and most everyone else would tend to fall within desiring some type of multiparty parliamentary system. If you're going to rip out the monarchical politics of the Inhumans, you really need to replace it with the cutthroat politics of democracy.
Soviet style apartment blocks with barracks-tier amenities on a mega engineering scale. Everyone gets their own two room apartment to share with 11 other people, showers and toilets are down the hall.
when did Cypher merge back with Warlock??
That’s Kitty’s and Peter’s daughter
Fantomex sacrificed his body so Xavier's astral self could inhabit it.
Oh... When was it?
Magik, not Kitty.
Astonishing X-Men.
>Setting aside the issue of trusting publicly released information from the writer, which could be used as a form of meta deception, it could also be a layered deception with them intentionally designing Xavier to look like the Maker as a red herring.As for the Inhumans, even a mostly Euro and American population would have a lot of disagreements as to how exactly a democracy should be run. Americans would want a heavily balanced system with major parties, Brits would want a strong legislative branch with major parties and an executive that springs from the controlling party, the French would want an incredibly strong executive, and most everyone else would tend to fall within desiring some type of multiparty parliamentary system. If you're going to rip out the monarchical politics of the Inhumans, you really need to replace it with the cutthroat politics of democracy.
I am Canadian and I want the millionaire people to have to pay the same % of them money as tex. And big business not to control the agenda of the democracy.
Americans love democracy and see most other things as bad or outright evil. which is Wakanda, Attilan, and Latveria moved out of monarchy iirc in the same decade.
That's fucking retarded.
If I'm not mistaken he was one of those pod mutants Xavier was with at the beginning. So it might not be the real him, it would explain why he is suddenly on their side.
>Americans love democracy and see most other things as bad or outright evil. which is Wakanda, Attilan, and Latveria moved out of monarchy iirc in the same decade.
Look at the full monarchy with have now Saudi Arabia and evil Korea.The only good King and Queens now are more about the old time then being the boss.
so why did the xmen become kids?
That's policy, not government organization or regulation. Also we use progressive tax systems, which mean that the wealthy are paying a higher percentage of their income in taxes. The issues stems from two things, whether or not that rate is high enough, and whether or not the current capital gains taxes are an effective measure of taxation.
Latveria isn't a monarchy, it's a larping dictatorship.
They didn't. Beast just went back in time and grab the original 5 X-Men from the beast to Today. it was part of a plan in order to make Scott stop being a dick but showing him his younger self, it's purpose to show how far he is fallen. the Scott you see in that image is reborn adult Scott with new memories since they did hang out in today's world for a while.
>Also we use progressive tax systems, which mean that the wealthy are paying a higher percentage of their income in taxes.
Am I being confused by US T.V. ?I know I hear about millionaire paying a smile of % of there money somewhere. And not in a historical documentary.
Top tax rate in the USA is 37%, the lowest is 10%. However, you pay the tax rate for the portion of your income that falls within a tax bracket, not the maximum rate based on what your total income actually is. For example, if you make $100,000 a year and are single, you'd pay 10% on the first $9700, 12% on the amount between $9,701 to $39,475, 22% on the amount between $39,476 to $84,200, and 24% on the rest.
I wonder what would happen if you were to put an Inhuman in one of those eggs in HoX #1. Would it make you an Inhuman Mutant? Either way, Scott mindbreaking Kamala into joining them would be hot.
>Would it make you an Inhuman Mutant?
Just breed for one at that point. need to put them in an orange egg.
besides Xavier probably ain't letting any non-mutants on the Island ever
The kid is a Mutant.
Fucking the timeline just to make a statement sounds like beast is the dick in this situation.
>The kid is a Mutant.
>Got her powers from Terrigen Mists in Son of M
She seems lot closer to an Inhuman to me but to each there own.
Best part is it didn't even work as Scott kept going on with his mutant extremist ways till the old scott finally died in Death of X like a whole 2 years after Beast's little Timeline fuck up.
I don't think any of this is taken into consideration considering how small in numbers they are, they can easily operate on direct democracy like town meetings and leave it at that. I mean it's an island outside the coast of New Jersey, they don't need a damn Parliament of Commons.
>spoiler
Not happening.
Why don't Mutants just take over Counter Earth and live there while usurping High Evolutionary?
The whole arc involved them changing the rules of MU time travel just to make it work.
Until that arc she wasn't an Inhuman either, she was a mostly baseline human.
You're still talking about a population of a couple thousand.
>You're still talking about a population of a couple thousand.
Sure, and town meetings take place in American towns with over 20-40K residents, it doesn't mean every single person has to participate, but if they want to they can; they still have a voice and can be part of it without any further restrictions beyond signing up for it. Seriously town meetings are such a simple form of organization that it's funny how terribly structured the American democratic system is structured for anything but actual representation.
You are correct
I live in a town with 22k residents, town meetings can quickly get bogged down by arguing and in many cases controversial issues simply get tabled and pushed back. At that size they work great for simple matters, but any complex or multi-sided issue can completely derail the format.
>beast is the dick in this situation
He was absolutely, 100% the dick in the situation.
>To think like a Krakoan, try thinking like an Israeli.
I am pretty sure they re more akin to Palestinians.
But I thought there was no such thing as a "Palestinian", at least that's what the Isreali's keep pushing for
Why is Jean using that stupid outfit?
In the current year segregation = good
>But I thought there was no such thing as a "Palestinian", at least that's what the Isreali's keep pushing for
Palestinians only exist because Israel was made. No country of Israel NO country of Palestine can existing ever.
Technically correct. "Palestine" is a term going back to the ancient Greeks to refer to a broad swath of inconsistently defined land comprising today of what we would consider Israel and the Palestinian territories, along with parts of Jordan, Syria, Egypt, and Lebanon.
It's not only retarded it happens to be wrong. That was the Shadow King lying to the team telling them Fantomex voluntarily gave up his body. Whereas when the real Xavier is restored (you can tell because he's not speech bubbling on a black background) tells Gambit to go find Fantomex.
Then in Wolverine and Captain America Weapon Plus #1 we learn Fantomex died in the interim.
Yeah, he wipes out the latest nu men population every few months or so out of petty dissapointment
>To be a mutant as opposed to a mutate, you need to be born with an X-Gene
Yeah, but no.
They used the same bit of 'logic' with Warlock ( he's different that all the other technorganic whatsits because he's not a murderous psychopath ... thus HE'S A MUTANT TOO! ) and then again with Broo and then AGAIN with Krakoa when he became the literal school grounds for the Jean Grey School during the 'Wolverine and the X-Men' run.