Are yall just gonna pretend like castelvania on netflix itsnt the tightest shit

They did though, not in America, but they most certainly did so in Europe.

He's not retarded, he's just another author who let his prejudice get in the way of his writing, because he's surrounded himself with people who only spout the same ideology or won't actually call out when he's making the story worse with his christian hateboner. He probably thought that line was brilliant because nobody actually pointed out
>Wait did you just have a character say the magical demon summoning dracula is worse than the devil... because he's real.

No, retarded was having a long ass monologue from a demon about how a priest has explicitly been abandoned by god and how big a deal that is, and then he makes holy water with his blessing while being a corpse. You'd swear the guy realized he accidentally implied that the priest in season 1 might be a good person because he could create holy water and freaked out, so he introduced this giant ass plothole to show that shitty people working for demons can do it too. Ah? See? He probably is evil too, being a priest and all. Crisis averted and all that fucking time we spent on this really dumb political plotline is out of the way in the most nonsensical way possible, good job.

why dont you find out?

Yeah nobody cared about the stakeburning, he’s being disingenuous because all the other shit was so over the top and badly written, the church guys were straight up caricatures invented specifically for his adaptation, and they replaced much more nuanced and believable video game characters. Fucking text box sprite characters were better written.

Yeah what was up with that priest thing? Doesn’t it invalidate the entirety of season 1 if this character could have just surrounded himself in a pool and blessed it, abandoned or not? How did the demons win at the start? The pope was there surrounded by priests, all of them could have ended the fight with some buckets.

yeah just google image search, no need to watch the show.

>Yeah what was up with that priest thing? Doesn’t it invalidate the entirety of season 1 if this character could have just surrounded himself in a pool and blessed it, abandoned or not? How did the demons win at the start? The pope was there surrounded by priests, all of them could have ended the fight with some buckets.
It introduces so many problems into the narrative there's really no getting around it, Carmilla may as well have hyperspace rammed dracula's army riding the crappiest version of Hector ever put to media.

>Post yfw I'm killing our boy

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Yea Forumsntrarians decided they wanted be regressive puritans who can't handle fucking mean things said about kidfuckers.

>Everything so far in thread is narrative based criticism

Sounds like someone can’t handle mean things said alright.

Biggest one I can think of is why exactly did Trevor need someone else to make the holy water? If someone like that strawman being ordered around by Wish-I-Was-Cersei could pull it off, there's really no reason he couldn't. I'd say Sypha should be able to as well being all about information, but Sypha? Using Church based stuff? How unrealistic, unlike Dracula.

Look around you, buddy, that's not contrarian culture; it's just counterculture. And, frankly, the key take-away is that so few are coming to defend it. Because it has problems. Problems beyond pseudopolitical agendas. Problems with plotting with pacing, with character management.

It's got some great animation, sure, but everything else is fair to criticize.

>mfw
i didnt like much of the series but i loved that part. ive played castlevania since very young and that scene got to me. even cried a little bit im not gonna lie

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>A city is literally being sieged by demons, babies eaten in the night, death around every corner
>And we still have to waste time on friar thugs harassing someone instead of Castlevania’s many, many monsters

I have no idea what the fuck was wrong with him but this guy might have issues

>Doesn’t it invalidate the entirety of season 1 if this character could have just surrounded himself in a pool and blessed it, abandoned or not?
There was a moat around the town in season 1.

THERE WAS A MOAT AROUND THE TOWN AND THEY COULD HAVE JUST BLESSED THE DAMN THING

It fell flat for me because they skimped out on actually showing drac and Alucard talking before this. They didn’t have to, there was a lot they could have cut from the library or Godbrands entire everything, but they just suddenly expected you to care because of one line.

>Carmilla may as well have hyperspace rammed dracula's army riding the crappiest version of Hector ever put to media.
Camilla, not Carmilla, other than that this is a beautiful mental image because it means we don’t have to see anymore of that boring subplot

While I like the amazing animation, well done fight scenes and super nice looking backgrounds. I just wish they used more Castlevania monster designs instead of using mostly new but less interesting imo at least Demon designs. another problem I have is Trevor only seem to use Knifes but all the other Sub-weapons where just not used. There are a few other small things I could being up but I'm not. Overall it was alright for me.

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>dracula: hey, as long as it works.

The 'River" episode in season 2 was one of the best moments in any animated show I've ever seen.

Really, all the domino falling a the same time without any warning was perfect and I remember yelling "WHAT!?" over and over again.

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Strangely apt comparison since both shots looked big and pretty but then you step back and realize that what just happened raises so many questions that the narrative backwards no longer makes any sense and going forwards shouldn't make any sense either. Now that the townsfolk have seen one blessing being a hard counter to vampires and how easy it is to do, how is the narrative for Camilla going to work going forwards? Wouldn't most citizens go to the church's religion because, you know, it works? Looking back, every scene with this priest character makes no sense because he or those who worked for him could have instantly solved the issue with a waterballoon fight, and going forwards the issue becomes about how we can make the main forces threatening when in all likelyhood a child could beat them if he prayed right.

It looked pretty but the writer fucked up hard as far as actual story consistency is concerned, and instead of making anyone look like this grand chessmaster who pulled off a trick, it now just looked like everyone was dumb as hell and that this problem could have been instantly solved if a single one of them had been as smart as the average Family Guy fan.

BEHOLD, THE BANE OF DRACULA
youtube.com/watch?v=fIotnQ8jShk
HIS ARMY QUAKES IN ITS WAKE!

>real people do things for themselves to push an agenda they only understand was bad afterwards.

So realistic characters.

Excuse me what

That fits for the writer but it doesn't fit at all for the characters, they're just badly written because the concept hadn't been suddenly introduced to the contradiction of earlier scenes yet. Its like saying the Rebel Alliance was stupid for not hyperspace ramming the death star, the idea that this was possible and everyone was just ignoring the blatantly obvious hadn't been stupidly shoved into the storyline by a bad writer yet.

The characters acted realistic because people have their own agendas. Not everyone is a hyper analytical robot weighing the best option but rather the option they want.

I really wish they stopped spending so much fucking time on the bad guy's perspectives, for both seasons. That's a wonderful idea to split the screentime between the good and bad cast, but holy hell did the writing make me want to keel over at times.

>The characters acted realistic because people have their own agendas.
I genuinely have no idea how you got this idea from that post, or how this response fits into that post, or how it fits into the response to that post.

The issue isn't everyone being hyper analytical, its that this sudden, contradictory move-since he was established abandoned by god earlier- has introduced a huge plothole into the narrative, not characters. The self-serving Priest, by this standard, should have been able to bless the means to defend himself and his city, as pointed out here , he had the motivation, the ability and the means to pull it off. His agenda should have fallen this way and it should have aligned with his own self serving nature.

This massive plothole has made it so this previous action, or lack of action, no longer makes any sense with this character, any other character, the narrative as it pertains to them, what was established in the narrative as far as what could be done, and the narrative going forwards now makes no sense because the antagonist shown at the end and her forces could be very easily and should be very easily dispatched without so much as a hint of struggle.

A hyper analytical robot would have just thrown the script in the dudes face and gone 'Beep boop you're a dumbass'

You don’t know, maybe Camilla is a devout Christian in disguise.

No wait, she’s worse than a Christian... she’s real!

Witch burnings were more common during the modern era than the middle ages. John Locke encouraged them. And don't act like half the script isn't Warren Ellis tipping like a 14-year-old rick and morty reddit mod.

Go dilate then kill yourself.

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I don't get why they didn't just get another priest.

They could have just gotten another priest and pretended to be saving the town, which they were technically doing, right? Then she actually plans something out. Admittedly there's still plotholes here with the scope of what she did, not like pumps didn't exist back in the 1500s and they were right next to an ocean, but at least this way it explains why the priest couldn't protect the town he wanted to control or himself. Or at least doesn't contradict the reasons given, I guess. I thought that monologue explained everything the first time, no need to retcon in a change.

John Locke did what now? Link?

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CAUSE IM JUST A GIRL WHO CANT SAY NO
CANT SEEM TO SAY IT AT ALL!
youtube.com/watch?v=2YzHTt2Pns4

>Robot tossed the script back
>"Father, you invented me, you gave me life, and after reading this I now understand why you think so little of god"

It's because dragon show did it

Read Leviathan.
>as for witches, I think not that their witchcraft is any real power, but yet that they are justly punished for the false belief they have that they can do such mischief, joined with their purpose to do it if they can

That's Hobbbes also England hung not burned witches

>sign up for artsy and atmospheric monster menagerie hunting by a cool team of adventurers cutting their way through the perilous night, with a side spitefully arrogant Dracula chewing on scenery
>get a miniseason of "living under organized religion is literally worse than being invaded omnicidal demons" followed a full season of generic vampire Game of Thrones featuring despondent brooding Dracula and his pet retards, and a team of goofy Legend of Korra castmembers doing fuck-all until the writers remembered they needed to shove in a climax at the last possible moment

The S1 cyclops fight was pretty great though

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it's garbage for funko-nerds that think paying for a few byproducts of a franchise make them expects of said franchinse.

I like the voice ating. Peter Stormare as Godbrand was so over the top and perfectly viking. Reynoso's Romanian accent imitation as Sypha is really good

>funko-nerds
Did you even watch the show? Or did you watch some eceleb's video and assume shit?

Season 1 was quite great. Season 2 has absolutely dogshit pacing. The dialogue between Alucard and Trevor was often cringy at best. There was no element of the 3 of them ever really growing together, the library arc should have been a journey of some sort or had some more trials and tribulations for them to come together as a team.

The dracula political stuff was done pretty poorly, it just wasnt interesting. Animation and VA was really good though, it was still entertaining but a missed opportunity overall. I dont know much about characterization for Alucard or Sypha and Trevor, I only played the DS and GBA CVs growing up and missed SotN.

>I HAD NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED OR HOW IT HAPPENED BUT I WAS SO SHOCKED I JUST HAD TO CLAP, BRAVO

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>I dont know much about characterization for Alucard or Sypha and Trevor
Essentially none in CV3, though Alucard gets plenty in later games. Genya Arikado is Alucard with a magical seal on his superpowers.
The fact that they started with a mostly blank slate and managed to fumble on making the trio work as a believeable team is telling.

>Season 2 has absolutely dogshit pacing.
>And don't act like half the script isn't Warren Ellis tipping like a 14-year-old rick and morty reddit mod.

So this Castlevania not only has Ellis writing it, it actually has Warren Ellis' writing tics? Is there a chainsmoker character?

I feel like epik vampire viking who loves beer and killing dozens of men like animals and having sex with women while shouting his own name is the stand-in

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Based!

>Yeah what was up with that priest thing?
He was more pure in death than he was in life.

>interesting story about Dracula's war on humanity as an expression of his depression exchanged for boring Game of Thrones political stuff
>trying super hard to set up Curse of Darkness, a game that is not really that good
>the main heroes spend like three episodes in a library doing fuck all instead of going on an actual journey to find the castle
>Dracula gets pissy when Godbrand mentions he wants to go out to go eat some humans but Carmilla straight up insults Lisa and Dracula doesn't instantly rip her apart
>tons of banter
>except literal scenes of people standing in a room explaining each other's origins

Castlevania was a disappointment. I'm kind of surprised it turned out the way it did.

>The legendary Belmont whip is called Morning Star and not Vampire killer
How do you fuck up that badly?

Eh, gotta agree with you there user. God, if I have to sit through another scene of "let me explain to you my backstory while we are having yet another shower of flashbacks and sad music, also church being assholes becouse why not".
At least the zombie pupper was cute

>dracula is worse than the devil because he's real don't think too hard about that sentence
Funny you should say that when you clearly aren't thinking enough

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I fucking love it.

Mah boi. I'm killing mah boi.

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What if he teams up with the pirate and kill some vamps

Not enough music from the original games.

It's alright, I just wish it was more 'Castlevania adventure' and less 'Vampire Game of Thrones.'