FUCK YOU ALAN MOORE

>making bad deals

DC literally violated their contracts with Moore and lied about it.

I mean, makes sense. Moore has always been an insufferable hypocrite in regards to him using other peoples creations vs other people using his.

He should sue them, He really should. But DC fanboys who got high on the latest batman issue will dog pile him like they do already on Yea Forums for being salty at DC.

Case and point

This is going to have all the subtlety of a sledgehammer.

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Oh, Christ. If that's real any interest I had in this just fell through the floor.

>white supremacy is tearing apart out culture
>not a single one of those people ever dares to mention the fact that lefties are becoming crazier than ever, with statistics showing that they're going even farther into the spectrum

The incapacity of those people to see themselves in the mirror is astounding.

You forgot that there is a difference between being rebeliously conformist and rebelious, and one of those are more lucrative than the other. There are definitly people at both hegelian extremes, but its pretty obvious which one is much much more prevalent, and its not the one they are stawmanning.

Oh for the love of fuck. Can someone just put me in a cyrotube and wake me when faggots are done with this kind of forced shit? 10 years from now, this will all seem ridiculous kind of like how EXTREME was in the 90s

Worst part of it is that they call "alt-right" or "fascist" even to people who is center-left just because they don't agree with their batshit insanity.

But user, in 10 years after that, people will feel nostalgic for the late 2010's and go through a 5 year nostalgia faze before throwing it away again for the new fad. you beter cryo yourself for 25 just to be sure.

The 2010s people will be nostalgic for will not remember a lot of the political drama, just like 90s nostalgia.

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It's real.

But I bet you're going to say "No, not all democrats are like this."

Isn't Alan Moore the guy who shat on ComicsGate and saying they were white supremacists?

Sounds like he's getting what he wants. I bet he's happy. Cause if he's not, well... this is the culture he wanted

They were white supremacists tho

Nope. Not at all
The reason Watchmen was good wasn't fucking nuclear tension, it was character themes, the exploration of archetypes and legitimate trauma and sorrow that hadn't really been explores by comics by then. It was visuals. The last thing I think of is the social implications, unless we mean the social implications of vigilantism or someone like Rorschach. This is fucking idiotic.

It is astounding how far the point of everything Lindeloff adapts soars over his head.

The spirit, not the law. Thus 'bad deal'.

>Ta Nehisi Coates
is there a more overrated author on the entire fucking planet

Honestly, I can see Alan Moore respecting him for saying fuck you to him. Alan Moore is fucking weird.

Lindeloff is not any better than those hacks, have you watched any Lost or Prometheus?

Feel free to cite exactly how DC
>violated their contracts with Moore and lied about it

He's not that weird. He withholds respect from people actively seeking it and gives it to people who don't want it. It's actually pretty simple.

Maybe if people adapting could actually pick up on the themes if his work he would be less against it.

You can't deny the tension is integral, the point is ultimately without that climate is integral to so many characters motivations and why the world is the way it is. Without MAD, what would Ozy been pushed to "save" the world from? What would Manhattan's importance to America be? You can't undersell how important Fear of Nuclear annihilation is and ultimately there's nothing you can replace it with.

This. If you have a solid thematic base, your piece will last very well and will be enjoyable across the board of opinions and positions. If it is tied to specific events or is to specific, it ends up not being an exploration of a topic, but an argument for something, and that is where you loose greater engagement, timelessness, and wider recognition.

>and ultimately there's nothing you can replace it with
I think there in lies the largest issue, nothing they could have picked can match it and what they did chose is no exception.

>moving the goalposts
>i-it's ok that Moore is a blatant hypocrite because he's also a genius with such super deep themes
God I hate Moorefags, you're about 2 steps away from being Snyderfags.

lmao

Ah yes, it's another social meda screenshot and farmed outrage thread.

I mean hopefully they wouldn't go for a 1 for 1 remake but FOR OUR TIMES.
Not that I have any real faith in this project.

>moving the goalposts
>on my first reply
You ok user?

Lindeloff isn't creating a patrician diorama meant to cater to (You)r refined and delicate sensibilities, he's creating tapioca with mass appeal. You don't know a goddamn thing about him and whether or not he actually "gets" Watchmen, you just know he's creating things that make money because that's all you ever see. You're in no position to make any call about whether or not he understands what he's adapting.

Pull your head out of your ass, your lips off of Alan Moore's ass and quit being offended because something you liked in one form is being used to make something you don't like in another form. This series will do absolutely fuck all to diminish the legacy of Watchmen and will actually increase the number of people who read it by making it trendy. Thinking that somehow impugns upon the original work is an indication that subconsciously you feel a sense of weakness in the work and must protect it.

Moore's a crazed wizard who made a comic about little girls fucking, watchmen is not that deep, this does not mean that adaptations of his work still continue to miss the point, unless you want to defend Snyder and his adaptation of Watchmen because I'd love to hear it.

>mass appeal
on twitter maybe

How the FUCK can anyone miss the point of Watchmen so hard?

I dunno, I tend to think of nuclear annihilation potentially happening at any point in time a slightly bigger thing than Charlottesville riots.

Wait, I thought Americans have no culture. So white people also having none, so they are technically tearing nothing.

Funny how we have not one but two sequels to watchman happening at the same time. It's like that ed edd and eddy gif with the dirt.

"Don't make a sequel to watchmen, it'll just be shit"

"Fuck you I do what I want.

It wasn't bait ya dopes, just a cautionary tale. If you make it you'll officially hit rock bottom and become a parody of yourself. But ya went and did it anyways. Congrats.

>Moore's a crazed wizard who made a comic about little girls fucking
>t Snyder

>damon: FUCK YOU ALAN MOORE
>moore: hahahaha, i like you, you can join my cult now and receive the gifts bestowed upon all believers by our snake deity
>damon: :|

Reminds me of this. But seriously the lengths people will go to these days to dismiss any and all criticism is astounding

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Help my memory, wasn't that line about "save me... no" just narration?

That’s what user just fucking said.

if they HAD to find a replacement theme for nuclear war to use in their crappy watchmen fanfic than the only thing that's comparable to nuclear war in contemporary politics is climate change, but there is literally no way to write a superhero thriller about climate change without it coming off as hamfisted, preachy, and disgraceful to the original watchmen. The show was doomed from the start so it really doesn't matter HOW they choose to ruin it, because even making a sequel to watchmen is already missing the point of watchmen.

Oh I absolutely agree that the Watchmen movie is garbage and Snyder completely missed the point, but that's completely irrelevant here because it's not what we're arguing about.

What we're talking about is whether Moore is a hypocrite or not for being against people using "his" stuff when he's also used a bunch of other peoples creations. The quality of said work on either side is irrelevant.

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LOST is pretty good. And I think you might be confused, he didn't write Prometheus originally, he only rewrote it at Ridley Scott's behest to include a backstory to the Engineers. The one who wrote it was Jon Spaihts, and ultimately it falls upon Scott for adapting it without any regard for characterization or pacing by removing key scenes.
t. Alien fan

You're probably thinking of the publication thing, but DC actually violated the letter of the contract with the button thing.

If you really think that when universities are completely left dominated then I don't know what to tell you.

I would say it's 100% on if the creatures who's works he's adapted objected to said adaptations.

Can you really remove the quality or intent argument?
Moore doesn't really have an issue with "using his stuff" as he's praised a few adaptations, but rather has an issue with why and how they adapt his shit.

The movie is great, it has all the political side and philosophy intact, go fuck yourself, the movie was almost perfect. It takes advantage of the limitations of its medium instead of trying to ise the comic as a storyboard.

I don't think Moore is so pissed that people use his stuff, but rather he's pissed people just lazily recycle his characters/ideas and a lot of the time completely miss the point. Not to mention Moore would often seek out the original creator's blessing if he was writing an established character.

So when Moore is dead you'll be fine with people using his works however they want? Seems kinda arbitrary considering he doesn't actually own them at the moment anyway.

Well if that's really his opinion (all I've seen is that he seems to be against anyone using anything of his full stop) then it's a different case. Though I'd argue he's still being a hypocrite since perhaps the original creators of the works he's used would hate how he used their creations. So if he really cared about intent then he wouldn't have used their stuff at all.

Imagine actually unironically believing this. I bet you think the movie ending was better than the comic as well huh?

"Fuck Alan Moore" is always the correct point of view

Moore is 50 miles up his own asshole

What if you're at a bar and Alan won't stop making eyes at you? Would you fuck Alan Moore?

>it has all the political side and philosophy intact
If you're not bainting then you're legitimately a fucking retard. Snyder took many of the iconic scenes from Watchmen, adapted most them visually pretty well (even if everything was dark and overshadowed), but the changes he did make completely missed the point of the source material. The one that pissed me off the most was Rorschach's flashback with the serial killer with his "dogs get put down" bullshit. Snyder fundamentally misunderstood Rorschach and instead of seeing him as a fundamentally broken and flawed human being took all the nuance out of the role to try and make Rorschach an edgy, cool antihero.

Well his issue is more using his stuff to make wholly soulless cash grabs with no real thought past "this name will get money" vs the few things that he liked that seemed to put more thought into it and his own work which thought more deeply in the characters he used.

>So when Moore is dead you'll be fine with people using his works however they want?
I'm fine with them using them now however they want, it's Moore that takes issue with it.

Considering everyone that's used his stuff have been complete hacks that use his creations for name recognition alone I'm not surprised he doesn't want anyone recycling his writing period. Seriously, name one instance of a creation of Alan Moore being written by another writer that surpasses or even comes close to matching the original in quality, because you can't.

No, i believe the movie ending was the correct one for the movie, since it was a different medium. The public reading the comic grew up on 50s movies and scifi series, so the familiarity with the tropes in the comic would make the reader receptive to that ending, am ending that was build in the mind of the reader for 13 months of re-reading. The movie's ending is made for the viewer that has been sitting for 2 and a half hours, and that was familiar with the action and disaster movies of the 80s and 70s and Hollywood's depictions of the cold war.

But none of it besides Before Watchmen has been a soulless cashcrab. Regardless of what I think about the fucking insanely terrible job Snyder did with the movie I acknowledge that he did put his soul into it (which is part of the problem) It was something he was deeply passionate about. Same with stuff like Doomsday Clock and now the Lindelof show, whether good or bad you can't deny that Johns and Lindelof are putting their everything into the works because they truly do believe in them.

The works being good or not is besides the point.

Then you're an idiot that also completely missed the entire point of the story, par for the course with Snyderfags I guess.

Then they're just idiots and fucked up as much as soulless cashgrabbers in missing the point.

Have you not watched the leftovers?

Did he? I doubt Moore even pays attention what's happening to twitter. He even admitted not having internet.

The Leftovers was pretty great.

>But none of it besides Before Watchmen has been a soulless cashcrab.
You must be joking. Doomsday Clock was quite clearly a mandate from WB execs who got in touch with Johns to do something Watchmen related since it's one of their most profitable franchises. Unless you honestly believe the bullshit PR that Johns just spontaneously approached DC with the idea because of the political climate.
>The works being good or not is besides the point.
Why not? What writer enjoys seeing their work handled by complete hacks in the most unimaginative ways possible and the polar opposite of their original vision?

Well, Alan is channeling dark magic right back at this twatwaffle.

1 good show will not make up for literally everything else he's ever done being shit.

You really need to pick an argument and stick to it.

>“What in 2019 is the equivalent of the nuclear standoff between the Americans and the Russians?” the sometimes-punchy Leftovers co-creator postulated during the Watchmen panel at TCA on Wednesday. “It is race and the police,” Lindelof said, answering his own question as star Regina King and EP/director Nicole Kassell — both Leftovers alums — sat next to him on stage at the Beverly Hilton.

Lindelof is a fucking moron. He is a walking parody of the average liberal/woke retard. I'm honestly surprised he didn't kill himself as soon as Trump won on election night.

I'm going to watch the pilot just to see how many cringe woke moments there are and hope to hear some actor awkwardly say "NIGGER".

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>I am channeling the [punk rock] spirit of Alan Moore by making an audience friendly adaptation of his work to maximize profits for corporate interests
BRAVO LINDELOF, BRAVO

>hope to hear some actor awkwardly say "NIGGER".

Should be Don Johnson

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I'm glad he's making the show if only to trigger snowflakes such as yourself.

Tick tock, NIGGER!
TICK TOCK

*dabs with noose*

I am, either they're assholes who didn't care or idiots who missed the point neither of which Alan likes.
No Hypocrisy since Alan doesn't feel like he fucked up.

Wait a fucking second, is he implying that the police and white people are the Soviets and black people are the Americans? LMAO what a shitshow.

Even then, Climate Change is still not comparable to corrupt or incompetent politicians in two nations actively deciding to kill all life on Earth on a whim at a moment's notice. And any little thing could trigger one of them into doing it.

It's the very immediate aspect of it that is unnerving.

Oh he's paying attention alright

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>Moores not a hypocrite
>Ok he is, but it's ok because his work has soul
>Ok, so people's adaptations of his work have soul, but they're terrible
The goalposts are off the field at this point.

>one is a global threat with wide reaching consequences
>the other is a problem in the US and not even ALL of the US

>Moores not a hypocrite
>Moores not a hypocrite because he feels these writers fucked up
>Moores not a hypocrite because he feels these writers fucked up
ftfy

Based. Fuck Alan Moore, Watchmen sucks

It's the best superhero-themed comic book by far.

>little girls fucking
>and became aware that one of the little girls was no public domain, but violated that ownership anyways

Cripes, this is literally a case of a stupid person who is too stupid to realize how stupid they are.

it's an awful comic too

If Moore posted here, Hiram J. Comicsgate III would be his tripcode.

>You're an idiot because you disagree with me
>No counter argument

That's a YIKES! from me, champ.

Well, that's because Overton's window is so far to the right that liberal faggots talking about sj seems left to you.

So in trying to be counterculture to counterculture, he's being ironically conformist? But unironically? What?

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I can't wait for when other creators make unauthorized adaptations of Lindelof's works like Lost and postures how their version will be better and tell old man Lindelof to fuck off (granted, it wouldn't be hard to make a better version of Lost since Lost was utter shit).

People like her are exactly the reason why racists are on the rise and why whites dont give 2 shits about minorities anymore.

>Making bad deals and selling out by accident
This is extremely punk rock.

Lindelof isn't a pretentious old windbag who has bought into his own press like Moore, he won't care

Shit adaptations do detract from the work. They lower the chance of good adaptations and there's always the chance of people seeing a shit adaptation and deciding eh source material could be shit too.

Wasn’t the first costumed hero in the Watchmen canon some dumbass Nazi-sympathizer who was into beating people up because it got him hard? Feels weird to have stupid geeks in here going “THIS IS GOING TOO LEFT” when the original creator of the series hates white supremacy and wants stuff more extreme than Damon Lindelof; the shit V does in V for Vendetta is pretty much what Moore wants, while I can’t imagine fuckin Damon Lindeloff supporting anyone to the left of Joe Biden.

Because unlike Lindelof Moore knows how to incorporate his political messages into a story organically. Miracleman was a treatise on the relationship between superheroes and fascism and used explicit references to nazism to emphasize that relationship but the comic was actually well written and will probably be more subtle about it than whatever this new tv show is going to be

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I mean holy fuck, V for Vendetta is an anarchist supersoldier destroying a white nationalist government singlehandedly and he goes on and on about how awful it is that all the non-whites got killed and culture was replaced with right-wing shlock made by a computer Der Führer of England jacks off to. How the fuck is that “subtle”?

Losing my mind, dumb fucks making me defend the fucking writer of Prometheus, jesus christ

Goddammit, I was willing to give this a chance but if that's the angle they're going with I doubt it will be any good. All these hacks aping Moore try to have some sort of political message but they lack the subtlety that elevates Moore from your average comic writer.

Yes, Damon Lindelof sucks, but you’ve got people whining about how this (and the left in general) is going too far left when Alan Moore wants shit further to the left than most people do and Damon is the kind of guy who would probably stay home if the choice for 2020’s presidency is Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump.

Also in general, every time I see some dork going “the left is too crazy” it’s some dipshit who subscribes to people who inspire mass shooters like Molyneux and Black Pigeon Speaks.

So you think the Democrats SHOULD be all "No borders, free heatlhcare for llegals and all racists must be sent to jail " then?

Sounds good, pussy.

>but DC actually violated the letter of the contract with the button thing.

how so?

Literally nobody calls for abolishment of borders, everyone should get free healthcare, and yes.

LOL, the white supremacist narrative is just going to keep being peddled by these (((people))) ad infinitum.

Every white person in the US who is not displaying guilt for being white and who doesn't support the eradication of white people through illegal mass immigration is a WHITE SUPREMACIST.

Oh, and of course he combines white supremacy with police, so as to further fuel the hatred of cops by minorities. Fuck HBO for funding this race war inducing shit.

But dude, what if they send me, a radical centrist, to jail just because I follow a guy who says the Jews are using Muslims to invade my country? That’s not racist.

>Yes, Damon Lindelof sucks, but you’ve got people whining about how this (and the left in general) is going too far left when Alan Moore wants shit further to the left than most people do
well those people are idiots then.
>Literally nobody calls for abolishment of borders,
*coughs*

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>People who say the left are too crazy are consuming retarded media.
>SO YOU'RE SAYING THE LEFT SHUOLD BE TOO CRAZY?!?? OPEN BORDERS?!?!?!?!??
How the fuck did you make that leap you mentally ill piece of shit?

I wish they’d replace you with a Muslim, at least they wouldn’t blight my eyes with bad posts like this.

No one? I guess all those ANTIFA Riots and those no borders hashtags are made up then.

As for the last two? I hope you get your wish, but don't come crying to me when you get EXACTLY what's coming to you, like the UK when the jail people for making Mel Brooks tier jokes.

The media isn't demonising the left last time I check. They'll all calling for Trump's impeachment or praising LGBT shit, even the dubious ones that are borderline NAMBA tier.

>Literally nobody calls for abolishment of borders, everyone should get free healthcare, and yes.
De facto de-criminalization of border crossing means open borders, defunding ICE means open borders. Illegal immigrants are flooding the US WITH underfunded ICE agents doing everything they can to stop the flow, imagine when they are even further reduced.

And how the fuck should a country that can't afford public health care for their own CITIZENS be able to afford it for all the CITIZENS + illegal immigrants ? And for the citizens of the US, paying taxes for housing and healthcare handed out to illegal immigrants when they have to fight tooth and nail to get medical treatment themselves is a really sweet deal...

The democrats have gone absolutely insane, obviously whoever wins the primaries will have to walk back on a shit ton of these issues, but that will just make them look like absolute hypocrites.

Because you wouldn't have eyes after the muslim threw acid on your face.

These adaptions don't save comics. They butcher the characters and plotlines to have something that's mass marketed for morons to easily digest.

That's not all but the worst comics out their in the market.

ICE is a post 9/11 agency that should be immediately purged and shut the fuck down, not just defunded, it's not some indispensable guardian of the country

Also public health care is more affordable than the current batshit insane joke of a system

Hmm, sounds bad, but then again your kind goes on mass murder sprees to impress other internet posters, so it seems like an improvement.

How he wasn't blacklisted after what he did with Lost is beyond me.

Fuck Lindelof, he ruined Prometheus and more importantly he ruined Lost.

The media doesn’t demonize liberals, but liberals aren’t leftists. It loathes leftists. Consider how the front-runner of the Democratic primary is a guy who has fond memories of working with segregationists in the 60s and who wouldn’t even legalize weed, and compare that to how the media will complain endlessly about Bernie Sanders, a non-revolutionary socialist reformist for being “too radical”.

Like fuck dude, lmao, there’s way more left wing shit than just being ok with LGBT people. Call me when Nancy Pelosi decides that the workers should own the means of production or when Chuck Schumer starts saying Karl Marx was right about everything.

Pot calling the kettle black.

I won't call Bernie "radical". Just a spineless traitor in that he let people push him around and let Hillary take his spot.

What about The Four Congresswoman? Aren't they leftist? Don't they get defended everytime they say something, regardless of what it is?

>a country that can't afford public health care for their own CITIZENS
can't decide on how to do it =/= doesn't have the capacity

t. illegal

They love leftists insofar as they love a weapon they can turn against their enemies and control. The Justice Democrats + AOC are largely controlled opposition at this point to bait the progressives.

Consider how everyone was talking about sexual liberation and LGBTAIABRAAAAAAPP and abstract topics rather than Syria, our role in the Middle East, or who our allies should be going forward and why.

Tulsi and Yang, despite their many faults, are the best hope the Democrats have because they're not as delusional as progressives and not as self destructively myopic as most liberals. They both recognize defined threats to
America and have proposed policies in place to circumvent it.

This whole debacle started when they pissed off Nancy Pelosi by refusing to fund ICE, so she got into a slap fight with them that Trump jumped into since he thought it was funny.

Also Ilhan Omar got yelled at for saying Israel lobbies the US to support its policy because that’s the most vile antisemitism is to imply rich Israelis like the support of the United States.

You mean the four women who have almost no say in anything because they are junior congresswomen yet are being targeted because they're easier to go after? Those women? The media will eat up anything that gives easy click bait and they are easy click bait.

You mean it's true. I'm no fan of muslims but our policy for isreal has been retarded and is part of the reason that place is so fucked right now.

>This is fucking idiotic.

No, you're being idiotic by completely ignoring the integral aspect of the comic that is the threat of looming nuclear holocaust in a world where cold war tensions never calmed down.

Omar fell into that trap since she apparently forgot how deeply entrenched zionist/aipac influence is in both parties.

Not a leftist but she's right insofar as pointing out how much of America's leadership has been seduced by Israeli ultranationalists.

If the polls are any indication? THey have no chance.

>Syria and our role in the Middle East
Bernie’s policy in backing out entirely of the Middle East, not involving ourself with their problems, and severing relations with the Saudis is the best. I dunno what Yang wants and don’t care since he’s a no-name Silicon Valley whelp, but Tulsi wanting to help Assad out is pointless and will only lead to more local resentment of the US.

Also Bernie spends most of his time talking about the economy, that’s about all he does. If you ask him about gay people, he’s going to go off on his stump speech about how unionization and universal healthcare will benefit gay people.

Really, it just feels like you only hate Dems because they like gay people, they’re more similar to the Republicans on most policy issues beyond that and being appalled the Republicans are running a child kennel on the border rather than a child jail like Obama did.

Omar's also an idiot who (like Trump) says things that make her look incredibly bad. Like calling the terrorist attacks "some things muslims did". It's like Trump saying "The kidney is the heart of he body"

I agree with Omar, yes. Israel is our shitty client state we use to fuck with other countries and ignore its apartheid policies towards the Palestinians. This is a position held by many left wing people. Liberals like Israel because they love their fundraising money.

>Like calling the terrorist attacks "some things muslims did"

Taken out of context, she was talking about how the entire Muslim community got villified by 9/11 and had to suffer for it thanks to a handful of extremists doing something. Conservatives love to police language when it's not them talking.

Oh I know what she actually meant. That's politics for you. I just don't have sympathy for politicians of all stripes. You play that shitty game, you don't get to cry when they play the same card against you.

Why are you assuming what I think about gay people? If this is shitposting please try harder.

Regarding Tulsi, Syria is the current battleground (soon Lebanon, remember that) of expanding Saudi/Zionist influence, and there are already leaked plans to facilitate false flags in Lebanon in the near future.

Tulsi recognizes the threat of Israel and Saudi hijacking foreign policy, and wants to remove us accordingly. It has nothing to do with Assad, it has to do with us not fighting other peoples' wars.

Yang is intelligent and his policies regarding AI and redefining the welfare system are fascinating, you should look in to them if you have the time.

Obama deported more people than Trump. We're in complete agreement that Trump is not handling this disaster well.

I personally think Bernie is too weak willed and will constantly bend the knee to establishment pressure, which makes him a less reliable leader than others. He's a limosine socialist with mansions, lecturing the unwashed masses on the evils of capitalism.

>We're in complete agreement that Trump is not handling this disaster well.

That's an understatement when his policies have done basically everything to make it astronomically worse. And it's all just to get political points from his small base of supporters, instead of actually trying to accomplish something, which is just vile.

It's not accurate to call it a "child jail", Obama only separated children when the parents were serious, violent criminals, like murderers or gang members. The children themselves were not being punished.
Even out of context I could tell that's supposed to mean that it's something only some Muslims did, and is not representative of all Muslims.

Too bad the Democrat debates show that the deserving ones will not get a fair shake because progressives hate them while the popular ones are idiots who hog all the attention.

>Lindelof
These guys often think alike. I wonder why.

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This

Moore is a legitimate leftist with a well-rounded worldview and ideology that even if you disagree with, you can have fun grappling with.

Lindleoff is literally just a dumbass lib.

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So do conservatives. But at this point both parties are pretty much spineless unless it directly benefits their own chances of re-election. Damn it'd be nice if we had some fucking term limits on important jobs like the senate and the house and federal judges.

>and abstract topics rather than Syria, our role in the Middle East, or who our allies should be going forward and why.
The far left likes to talk about those things. You'll see lots of pro-Rojava stuff and lots of anti-Saudi/Israel stuff.

One has far left beliefs but will at least have a proper conversation with and can actually be friends with even if you disagree with him, while the other will call you a Nazi or ruin your life the minute you disagree with him?

Progressives can hate them as much as they want but moderates are the majority of the and the heart of the party. It's why Pelosi will keep her job. Both progressives and conservatives hate her for the opposite reasons but she's the only one who's been playing this shitshow well.

Or, you know, get money out of politics. The decision that money = speech is what got us into this current mess where people listen first and foremost to their billionaire donors.

This is because of needing money to fund stuff like election campaigns and such.

>moderates are the majority of the and the heart of the party

If you poll policies without putting political labels on them, the country is actually very progressive. It's the "moderates" who refuse to advocate things like medicare for all because they've got big pharma donors to please.

>Unironically being this much of a Pelosi apologist

She's weak as fuck and her one and only claim to fame is the fact she's really good at fundraising.

And how has it helped that you now have dark money donors and billions of dollars being spent in election cycles? Sensible campaign fiance reforms, like having the government match the donations you get from actual people is a far better system that makes sure politicians aren't just corporate stooges.

It's just that white supremacy isn't nearly as threatening as nuclear war. Sure, it's a bad thing, and most black people are a little worried about it. But compared the absolute and justified paranoia that the world could end at any time? It's as threatening as a homicidal quadriplegic.

The ACA royally fucked private healthcare, but it's a scalpel compared to Medicare for All's jackhammer to our health industry.

It also fails to address the systemic and artificial issues with healthcare, like the lack of schools to facilitate the training of quality doctors or the many, many scams going on in the health industry.

It's just another element that will make it not only worse than the comics, but a dog shit standalone.

I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying that's sadly the nature of life. You want anything done? You need money.

>I respect Alan Moore
>Fuckhimtho
damn this is cringe kino

this is a very good point actually

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wouldn't that, uh, still be the americans and the russians? but with fake news instead of nuclear shit?

>We can do whatever we want
>Makes every important character on LOST a white guy
Good job, jews

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it's a comic about a bunch of schlubby superhero guys and it is almost completely devoid of any action scenes. The movie has nite owl doing insane martial arts and punching people across a room. Snyder doesn't understand the tone of the comic at all. I can't blame him though, the reason it sold well and what made the comic good are completely different things. It sold well because "EDGY SUPERHEROES! COOL!" it's actually good because it deviates from the normal action oriented comics and focuses on taking a stance on moral issues and humanity. The movie is good at taking certain scenes and literally transcribing them to the screen but it completely fucks up where it counts. Not even going to mention the ending.

Don't forget that what violence we do see doesn't look cool in the comic. Instead, we have a rape attempt, the attempted rapist getting beat to shit, Rorschach breaking fingers, a large part of New York being killed off by a psychic attack that leaves bodies and blood in the streets, and so on. It's not cool so much as disturbing. The movie does the slow motion brutal violence in a way that is stylized rather than gruesome.

I feel pain in my stomach.

KEK are they already on damage control?

Maybe Bush and Clinton both losing after spending fuck loads of money will make people fundraise less.

I see the racoons are multiplying now

The polarization works both way. If anything the Left in Watchman’ era were way more radical.

He's not wrong about public healthcare. The reason medical bills are so fucked in the us is because private insurance companies cut huge fucking discounts, like 90% off for themselves so hospitals and whatnot jack their prices to the moon to compensate. Something as simple as a CATscan costs literally 10X as much in the US as anywhere else in the world.

Oh noooh the leftist are appropriating Watchmen now! Have they no shame!?!

Whenever this comes up it always feels like people get angry at Moore for the wrong reasons. I could get behind this sentiment if Moore was somehow actively trying to stop these projects from getting made. I'm not interested in this Watchmen show but if he was trying to stop it from coming out I could at least understand people who want to watch it getting mad at him for it. But he's not. He just doesn't want to be associated with it. Damon Lindelof isn't owed Moore's respect or blessing and he sounds like a petulant prick when he bitches that he can't have it.

Sure, give Moore shit for being a huge hypocrite for criticizing people using his characters when his biggest work all relies on mining other properties (Watchmen being a slightly retooled version of what was original a Charlton Comics project, League being a gigantic fan-fic of Moore's favorite stories) but his position on adaptations of his works are very reasonable. Make them if you want, give his royalties to someone else, and leave his name off it.

Your post reminded me, The other day I saw people commenting on a tweet about The Boys show, bitching about people making fun of Snyder but then ripping off his work or some bullshit like that. So I guess not only do normies not see a difference between Watchmen and The Boys, but they also think Snyder invented Watchmen or was responsible for its take on superheroes. It certainly explains some Snyder fanboys you find on here.

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GRRM? To be honest I never heard of Ta Nehisi Coates

The changed ending being bad isn't about the look of the thing... It's about the fact that the plan doesn't fucking work when the culprit of the mass genocide is the American pet God that they've used to win wars with in the past. It's like expecting there to be peace if all of Americas nukes got hijacked and launched. The world would just unite against America because they were dumbasses who lost control of their nukes and killed billions. You should know this even if you only know about the Cold War from Hollywood. The plan only works if it's an outside force. It didn't have to be space squids, it would have been totally fine to update the fake aliens to something more attuned to the modern view of aliens.

The fact that you only think of the visual 50s vibe of the "alien invaders" shows that you haven't got more than a superficial idea of the story.

What if the left are only becoming crazy as a respond to the right?

It goes both ways. And twitter is making it easier than ever to find the most batshit fringe people on the other side to react to.

Well they did and they didn't, Alan Moore's agreement allows DC to make promotional material, but not merchandise. DC made some Watchmen buttons and sold them, but claimed it was promotional material so they didn't technically breach their contract.

So it's okay to violate a contract as long as you lie about it? How does making and selling buttons not count as merchandise?

this
if i were going to adapt watchmen, i would be well aware moore would loathe every bone in my body for doing so. and he would have a right to that.

Nuclear is war is something that COULD fuck us over.

White Supremacy HAS BEEN fucking us over for centuries.

This is akin to saying a corporation is punk rock for saying fuck you to actual punks.

Reminder that the antifa people like to accuse of bringing our society to the edge have yet to kill a single person in the US while right-wing extremists killed over 50 in the past year.

Oh. Oh man, do you not know where you are right now?

Dude, don't worry, I got your back. Just visit one of the other boards on here, that'll take you to threads that you'll like more. Geez, no wonder you're so grouchy, you're in the perfectly wrong place!

No need to apologize, friend, it's a simple mistake that anyone could make. Have fun!

The sooner it dies the better. Then we'll get the same transition as books had when it went from authors publishing their stuff in newspapers to them writing it in book format to begin with. No more stupid cliffhangers, no more rambling plots that go nowhere or get abandoned because they were just filling space that month. Stories getting a release because the story and art are good, not because the creators could do the writing/art quick enough to fill the schedule.

>Watchmen being a slightly retooled version of what was original a Charlton Comics project, League being a gigantic fan-fic of Moore's favorite stories

Except with Watchmen Moore's issue was solely that DC fucked him over by not giving him the rights back after couple of years by keeping the book perpetually in print, and with the League he completely reworked the original characters and in many cases the comics are a blatant criticism and satire of the original work and/or the era they represent.

People erroneously (read: projecting their butthurt) think Moore hates reusing old characters, when his issue is that DC and Marvel are so creatively bankrupt (there's literally no way to argue against this) that instead of creating new ideas and new stories they do nothing but mining and rehashing decades old stuff, exemplified by things like taking single panels(pages from Moore's work that's thirty years old and turning something about them, like a throwaway line, into a giant, multi year long crossover saga. That's Moore's issue. To him, if you repeatedly have to go back to his decades old material to find something new to do, i.e. instead of producing original material they have to repeatedly go back and leech off the same old handful of old stories, something has gone horribly wrong and the state of superhero comics is abysmal creatively.

[citation needed]

>Watchmen being a slightly retooled version of what was original a Charlton Comics project, League being a gigantic fan-fic of Moore's favorite stories
Opinions discarded

Dankula didnt go to jail he got fined and told to fuck off after the Scottish CPS and judges were made to look like idiots

Not that guy
they weren't conscious brownshirt-tier white supremacists or anything, but while GG had an initial point (game journalists are too buddy-buddy with developers to be objective and that's not good for consumers. Private cliques, political or otherwise, shouldn't be a part of the dev-journo relationship.)

From the absolute getgo the "point" of comicsgate seemed to be that the majority of people that write comics are liberals?

It just seemed like a weak attempt to piggyback off of what happened with GG and try to spark a similar reactionary outrage in the comics industry even though there was no grand revelatory moment to work with.

>and in many cases the comics are a blatant criticism and satire of the original work and/or the era they represent.
>Moore uses Mina Harker and her treatment as a subtle critique of how women were treated in Victorian England if they were "interfered with" by foreigners, but has her prove herself as a strong person in her own right as she's the only sane(Nemo excluded because of his insane battle rage) non-addict on the team
>LXG movie just makes her a spooky vampire superhero side-character
Just another example of how people, even the ones adapting his work, can't even grasp the stuff that's just beneath the superficial.

I think the real catalyst of comicsgate wasnt that the comics writers arent liberals but the liberals couldnt handle criticism from conservatives and lost their shit over it like with Mark Waid

>shitting on LOST
>forgetting about The Leftovers
pleb taste

Gamergate was initially a legitimate movement that got piggybacked on by people who wanted to see if they can manipulate public discourse on the internet. You know the usual suspects, Russian, Republicans, etc. The ones who like to false flag for both sides.
Comicsgate was a sad attempt at recreating that. There's constant attempts at that sort of thing. Like with the forced "walkway" hashtag that magically popped up when during the midterms to dissuade Democrats from voting. It's still going on too.

>criticism from conservatives
There was no good criticism, not from conservatives and surely not from comicsgate

There wasn't a "real catalyst", it was just forced bullshit. Even what you're saying isn't a specific event, it's a belief about others' behavior that you happen to hold.

Comicsgate hasn't been nothing but bunch of conservatives trying to jump on the grift train by creating an artificial identity politics controversy movement and then trying to milk money from retards who will throw money at anything just to "trigger the libs"

Nah man. It's also been idiot ultra-casuals asking people like Neil Gaiman to join their anti-SJW crusade.

if you fags lived around libs, you'd want to trigger them to. There is nothing like watching them chimp out

Epic. Simply epic Yea Forumsro.

The point is that nobody actually gets triggered by the casualgate fuckers, they just trigger themselves into throwing money at grift comics while everyone laughs at them. They couldn't even achieve the triggering potential that GG reached.

Eh, maybe you cant handle it
It doesnt take much.
>Took a trip to Seattle
>go to bar
>meet people
>Be making casual small talk with girl for over an hour.
>she eventually ask how i feel about Trump
>"he's alright"
>she literally goes from zero to 60 in point 5 seconds
>within 10 seconds she is raving and ranting
>close to having a meltdown
>she leaves, doesnt even pay her tab
>this shit is normal on the west coast
who can resist fucking with people like that

Antifa doesn't kill people because they deliberately train people to de-escalate mob violence before it gets to outright murder, which is even more sadistic because it's so calculated.

Hella fuckin' epic.

(X) Doubt

That actually raises doubt for you, you must be sheltered dude

>108935227
(you)

>she leaves, doesnt even pay her tab
>who can resist fucking with people like that
So she got free drinks? I'm not sure who got fucked here.

>antifa
>train
it's a bunch freshman cosplaying revolutionaries

the bar, you think i'd pay for some crazy cunts drinks

In capitalism, money is truth. The company with more money creates truth, truth is what they say it is.

>no man, ANTIFA has training camps they secretly bus their operatives to, where they learn how to cripple without killing, for maximum pain!

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Leftists are great at behind-the-scenes organizing. Rightists don't do it at all, which is why they're so terribly ineffective.

>mass appeal
>good

And that's how I know you're a fucking brainlet.

>Leftists are great at behind-the-scenes organizing.
Is this a (((reference)))?

Mind posting your SSN so that we can check whether you belong here or not?

>disaster

Good joke, you cucks. I'm literally for the camps on the border. Why not? Those people are breaking the law and are here illegally. Why should we show them any leniency?

>white supremacy is just some narrative
>proceeds to spout off a bunch of white supremacist conspiracy theories unironically

lmao dude, what?

>Antifa are evil BECAUSE they don't murder
BRAVO ALT-RIGHT!

EDGY!

I don't know what you mean Big Daddy.

No, not edgy. I literally support it. I'm a realist, unlike you and know that there's only two ways to cause change in people - the carrot or the stick. Just telling people 'Do not do this thing" has never ever worked, because at some point, the person will realize that they can ignore you.

So, you either punish them, give them something, take something away, or stop hurting them (positive/negative & punishment/reinforcement). So, let's look at it logically. We don't want these illegals here. We're not going to reinforce them, positively or negatively for coming here, because that's stupid. So we can only punish them for crossing illegally. We can't negatively punish them because we aren't doing anything to them yet. So, our only course of action is to positively punish them - to basically hurt them when they break our laws.

Really, before you make any unsound arguments about this, you really need to brush up on your behavioralism.

>Those people are breaking the law and are here illegally.
Not all of them. You even chucked a few US citizens in there just because they were brown.
>Why should we show them any leniency?
Because crossing the border technically isn't even a crime until you do it twice, then it's a misdemeanor. This is beyond overkill, this is sadism.

>Antifa doesn't kill people because they deliberately train people to de-escalate mob violence before it gets to outright murder, which is even more sadistic because it's so calculated.

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Edgy and 15 years old, an even better combination.

>sadism

No, sadism would be if we put up a sign saying "Everyone welcome" and then hurt people for crossing the border.

And before you get your panties in a twist - my parents were refugees. And you know what they did? They applied for asylum in their home country, got approval, told to go to Italy for a bit before they could be taken in, went to Italy, stayed there for 2 years, and only then did they get to the USA. And we did it without breaking any laws, unlike the untermenschen crossing the border.

31 actually.

Why do Capeshit fans hate Creators so much?

Holy shit you're retarded lmao.
All you've accomplished is ENCOURAGE illegal immigration by disincentivizing legal immigration, since you keep jailing all those asylum seekers. All you've taught is, "Since the US government will kidnap my children, I will have to trust this large-scale farmer employer who will break the law on my behalf as long as I perform labor for him for below minimum wage."
You COULD tackle the issue by punishing the farmers, but you never do. Not even a single time despite the million opportunities. Is it because they're rich, or is it because they're white? Fuck it, you can't come up with a reasonable explanation since all you can do is spout Psyche 101 bullshit, so I'll just go ahead and assume it's both because you sound just that god damn retarded.

I didn't know we had a real internet badass in this thread. Go back to "the donald" you reddit tier faggot

Or we can make the conditions for people who illegally cross the border SO bad that the fear of punishment will keep people out. Look into 1937 in the USSR. Fear is an excellent motivator, and you being dismissive of it as Psych 101 shows off how much you know (oh and it IS Psych not Psyche, you illiterate plebian).

NO U

Go on, cry some more. You're powerless to change these things that are happening so you are SEETHE-ing so hard, your asshole is getting all puckered up just thinking about it.

>let's emulate Stalinist Russia!
Go back to your gulag, Ivan.

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>Or we can make the conditions for people who illegally cross the border SO bad that the fear of punishment will keep people out.
Yeah this always works in the long run, right

Hell yeah executive network dude, you're so punk rock!!

not until they start making money

Comic sales have been stagnant for a decade, but now with trades, omnis and digitals stacked on top. Fuck off with this bullshit.

ICE is more of a secret police agency made after 9/11, frankly I'm okay with ICE existing but it's existence isn't the difference between law and order and mad max.

also we need a catch and kick out policy not this garbage where we keep these people here and use them for sweatshop labour in private prisons

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You're not offering better alternatives, you don't know how realpolitik works. I don't debate with idiots. When the shitskins are murdering your men and raping your women, you'll go "Oh no why didn't we listen."

>I'm a realist
>there's only two ways to cause change in people - the carrot or the stick

How retarded do you have to be to understand the stick doesn't work? In two years the amount of people coming over has skyrocketed after a decade of the numbers going downwards. The current highly punitive policy is a collosal failure unless you're supporting it simply out of sadism.

>You're not offering better alternatives
We had a better alternative right before this shithead president, illegal immigration was going down and we had viable paths to citizenship. You're a racist who wants to stop immigration entirely.

>immigrants come to the country and steal jobs and scab for anti-union business
>companies see this as an opportunity and force immigrants to work

why do you even oppose immigrants you stupid nigger

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>stick doesn't work

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge#Historical_interpretations

or

“it is much safer to be feared than loved because ...love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a dread of punishment which never fails.”

or

cmmmagazine.com/cmm-articles/duc-pham-september/

"Sun Tzu then set the women a simple drill and made sure they understood what to do. However, when he started ordering them to perform the drill, the women burst out in laughter. He tried again with the same result. Sun Tzu claimed that this failure of the troops to obey was the fault of the commanders. So, despite the warlord’s pleas, he ordered the two concubines beheaded as an example for the rest of the company. Thereafter, the women did not utter a single sound and performed the drill exactly as commanded."

I can go on and on and on. You're wrong. And the reason Western civilization is in decline is that we forgot that simple truism - that eventually, it all boils down to violence and blood.

I am an immigrant you dumb fuck. And there are still plenty of paths to legal immigration and even claiming asylum. See

>SEETHE-ing
Nigga, I ain't the one in a comics thread, on a cartoon board, on a shitpost site replying to anyone who deigns to disagree with me. Lookin at things rational like, I think you might be projecting that anger onto me. I'm just here enjoying the show you're puttin on, and might I say Bravo.

>Work for slavery level wages
>cheapens the labor and wages for jobs in that field
>forces contracts to be renegotiated
Gee I wonder why.

So you're ignoring reality altogether? The numbers have gone up, not down, after he changed the policy. It's been over a year since the child separation scandal and people keep coming over.

And the republican party has been busy trying to get rid of legal ways, they've actively been cutting down the number of refugees from abroad, and we know for a fact that they are denying asylum seekers entry through legal ports of entry.

Yes, because there is a drive to discredit this administration, because we keep getting migrant caravans organized by (((somebody))).

Because there’s a literal caravan coming and instead of saying no don’t come over there are dumbasses who say come on in we’ll even give you free health care.

And yet that's not the topic of discussion. Besides, why should I care? I'm here already.

The people being held in detention centers and having their children taken away, who then die of dehydration while in government care, were legally seeking asylum.

No they’re not, They’re trying to tighten definitions.

Which caravan? Why are they coming if the stick approach is working?

Isn't this the free market regulating itself?

Bullshit they died because they marched thousands of miles with unknown illnesses and collapsed when it all caught up to them.

The migrant caravan

So you’re ok with migrants working like slaves? Good to know

No, they weren't. Because if they were seeking asylum legally, they would've had their visas before crossing the border. And having a visa is an invitation to enter the country, you stupid fuck.

see

Are you really going for the Jew card?

What Jew card? there is literally a migrant caravan, it’s no the news for God’s sake how the hell do you not know this.

I'm ok with the whole concept of the US getting nuked to high heaven by Kim, but that's another thing all together

Same but instead of USA it’s everybody let the cockroaches have a turn

>because we keep getting migrant caravans organized by (((somebody)))
>What Jew card?
Are you serious?

That’s not me you dipshit, This was me

Directly from the UN website: news.un.org/en/story/2018/11/1024882

The UN is paying for the migrant caravan, and considering how much influence Israel has on the UN, yes, it is paid by for by the Jews.

>which is even more sadistic because it's so calculated.

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Why you zoomers spend so much time on the internet defending mega entertainment corporations?

Pew research documented up to 2018 or 2017 at the latest the right had barely moved from its positions while the left had drastically gone to the left. You can see this in a relatively simple thought experiment of asking how each parties' platforms had changed and the only real change on the right is complete antipathy to any kind of amnesty (while in the past it was contentious but some agreed with it) and a willingness for tariffs. Compare it to the left where on pretty much every metric of taxation, the 2nd amendment, the first amendment, LGBT, race relations, immigration, everything except foreign policy they are dramatically to the left of where they were in 2012, or 2008, or 2004.

assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2017/10/05162647/10-05-2017-Political-landscape-release.pdf

You can feel this shift is warranted and good or is bad, since some people on the left have been angry at the democrats for being center-left (or by comparison to European center-left, they feel the democrats are more center-right or even right wing) But there is no denying the shift is overwhelmingly on a single side. The only real substantial change on the right is in decorum and optics as over and over you'll hear the never-trump types say "I fucking hate the guy he's a monster but his policies/appointments/ect are all textbook conservatism" with the solitary exception of free-trade.

Migrant caravans were due to american destabilization in Central America...

If you believe that, then I have this wonderful bridge to sell you.

Because a decade ago the tea party drove republicans even more to the extreme right.

>while the left had drastically gone to the left
Good. The US left was a travesty anyway. It's high time they act like an actual left party.

Your own paper supports the claim that both sides are becoming more partisan at page 13

That's because Trump has thrown everything about being a conservative out of the window. The EPA regulations came from republicans to protect the environment and prevent abuse. Trump has done nothing to lower our debt and has increased it. Outside of his immigration policy and his general attitude I have no idea how republicans can defend him at ever turn.

>not believing that America constantly destabilize shit in the South/Central America
Bitch now I got a bridge to sell to you.

I'd pretend to hook up with the nearest tranny.
Fuck Alan Moore

No, I do know that we do that because of realpolitik. But if you think that the mass migrations are being funded by Americans, then you're wrong.

The EPA was a corrupt group that were literally poisoning people for finding or letting corporations slide for money.

>are being funded by Americans
Are being caused by Americans. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

>humanatarian crisis
>The UN (a humanitarian organization) comes to the aid of refugees
>muh jews want to destroy the US

If the jews love money and power so much why would they want to destabilize a system that, by your logic, they are already at the top of.

Probably because he has lowered unemployment (particularly minority unemployment), improved the economy, vastly decreased illegal entry into the country and, of course, built the wall as promised. #nevertrumpers look almost as silly as blue dogs at this point.

As a Jew, I can tell you - because they think they can ride it out.

Holy shit, what a load of bollocks. The thing actually 'tearing our culture apart' is the left fully embracing identity politics, which is pure racism and sexism.

THEY are judging people by skin color and gender. It's such a fucking waste since we had actually gone so far in realising MLK's 'judged by their character and not the color of their skin' until the left went all regressive.

The economy and unemployment were already doing an uptick before he got in office. His tax break has done nothing and hasn't payed itself back. Nor will it ever. More importantly his tarriffs are causing a bigger issue as companies are already pushing those tax breaks into the american people.

Still doesn't make sense. If you get the best table at a fancy restaurant, you don't burn down the table in the hopes you get a better one. Stability is preferable to chaos for those in power.

>White supremacy
The biggest boogie-man of the 21st century.

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Unless of course by burning down that table you get access to the resturants safe.

Alan's a lot of things, but I never thought of him as punk rock...

That's more of a morrison flavor innit?

He make a good case,frankly

>t. increasingly nervous white supremacist

But im not white and I agree with him, it wasn’t whites that ruined black Wall Street or Black Hollywood. It was another group

>ruined black Wall Street
white people did bomb it though

gee i wonder who could be behind this post it's the same increasingly nervous white supremacist lmao

Yes they did, like they burned down a town. But the death knell came from someone else
But you’re wrong, bonus points my professor was black but then you have to be if you want to teach African American history.

>i'm not a white supremacist, i had a friend- well no i had a professor who was black
wow user you sure showed me lmao fucking racist retard

Your next sentence is "But white genocide is real.We are the real victim here"

>Your next sentence is "But white genocide is real.We are the real victim here"
Well, it's certainly more probable than white supremacy being a threat in the US.

They literally have to fake white racist attacks over and over again. Last one turned out to be a cuban democrat, and the witnesses say it was the black woman who screamed 'go back' and not him. Jussie Smollet must be proud.

I choose death.

No you’re the dumbass for not actually doing research into African American studies

Watchmen's cold war is a set up for the comic conflict and character interactions.
It's 100% irrelevant other than set dressing as a character driver. Ozymandias solution and the fallout of his plan is what the story is all about.
Moore used said political dressing to great effect however, touching on the essence of the anxiety regarding the times instead of going "Russia Bad, America Good".
With a "White Supremacist" plot touted as "the next Watchmen political tackle" is to miss the point entirely.
This is the equivalent to be sold on Watchmen, the comic, by saying "It's about the cold war!"
It's not. The Cold War is part of the story, but it's not what it is about.
Please be mindful this isn't me saying "Watchmen can't be about White Supremacy!!!!" but rather "the marketing on this doesn't seem to get it". Which is fine, I guess? Not very excited for this show at all.
If you think V was a "anarchist super soldier" and not a controversial figure who is ambiguous and complex in the original comic I have nothing to say to you other than re-read the comic if you think it's as simple as you are making it out to be.

>stagnant
Comic shops are dropping like flies. Remember comic shops? The primary buyer of big 2 comics? Yeah. Floppies depend on comic shops which depend on people to buy them from said shops. With all the shops gone, there will be no new trades/omnis/digitals.

And by the way, digital sales are never recorded publicly. To use that as a defense is stupidity to the extreme.

This is probably the one situation where Alan Moore would be kind of fine with them dicking with Watchmen, because it seems like the creator of the miniseries is using the context to actually say something.
Alan Moore's biggest criticism of cape comics is that so few of them have anything to say. But of course Yea Forums isn't going to like it because it's about a subject matter that makes them uncomfortable.

>snowflake
What do you think that word means?

>vastly decreased illegal entry into the country
more now than ever

He's using it ironically to call you a massive faggot when it's usually used to describe offended liberals.

>When I raised these questions, it was suggested that Grant Morrison himself might argue that he was just being “a bit Johnny Rotten; a bit Punk Rock”, to which I pointed out that as far as I was aware John Lydon hails from a working class background, and that by his own admission Grant Morrison had spent most of the Punk era in his room for fear of being spoken to roughly by some uncouth person with a pink Mohawk and a U.K. Subs t-shirt. I’m afraid I didn’t see how appealing to completely unearned teen rebel credentials made any difference to the spoiled-child behaviour of a deeply unpleasant middle-aged man, and therefore once more declined the invitation to whisk him off to my Bat-cave so that we could solve mysteries together, perhaps in todger-revealing tights.

Moore thought that the Wachowskis turning V into Vendetta into a story about America and Bush was a bunch of hogwash.

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> how the fuck is the world's biggest and richest super power able to take care of it's own citizens?

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>And how the fuck should a country that can't afford public health care for their own CITIZENS be able to afford it for all the CITIZENS + illegal immigrants ?
Where’s the lie?

The fact that Lindelof thinks that writing an Amazon Video cashgrab of a very famous comic is "punk rock" is just beyond hilarious.

Yeah, strange he'd miss that in a post about shifting policy positions rather than party loyalty.

Maybe he's thinking of Green Day, Offspring, Blink 182, all those big radio-friendly "punk rock" bands that were big in the 90s.

Good fucking Lord.
I'm getting sick of blaming everything on whites. Americans are fucking idiots that love self segregating themselves.

Fuck Antifa.

>people who inspire mass shooters like Molyneux and Black Pigeon Speaks

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Nazi showing his true colors. This is America, accept it.

>expecting it to be anything but shit after his terrible open letter

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This isn't real.

>I am an unscrupulous bastard defiling what you love, and that's a good thing

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>Yes they did, like they burned down a town. But the death knell came from someone else
That doesn't deny white people's involvement in burning it down

ok, now thats based and blackpilled

>take guys story
>make it shit
>shocked he doesnt like it or want to be involved
>"FUCK YOU"

Okay bud.

Both that the US can't, and that it isn't already through higher hospital bills for other patients. A single payer system would actually save the country money but Americans are being screwed by special interest lobbying and nobody wants to shoulder the burden of the poor who've been slow-poisoned by the food industry for decades. But they are shouldering it anyway, just in less obvious ways.

I get that he's referencing Doctor Manhattan on Mars narrating his life story but why does Lindeloff's version seem so damn off?

Is HBO Watchmen the Yea Forums equivalent of DMC Devil May Cry?

Why would anyone side with Lindelof?

/pol/, that's the answer you need.

>"what is the the modern day equivalent to the imminent and real threat of two global superpowers unleashing hell on earth in the form of a global nuclear holocaust killing millions of people, completely wiping out modern society, setting technological progress back centuries, and damaging the environment for decades at bare minimum?"
>UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH DA COPS?

Bitch is you serious?

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Universal healthcare is literally retarded tier. Look how many people in the UK have to wait for operation when the money runs out. That is the one thing I’m with the right on

t. Lefty

Meanwhile, US life expectancy is dropping, in contrast to the UK and every first world country. Unrelated though, I'm sure.

Missed opportunity to be honest. Makes more sense to expand upon the lie Ozymandias used to unite the world.

>Universal healthcare is literally retarded tier.
I know Americans are the dumbest people on Earth, but this is absurd.

Nothing more punk than a dead punk.

That was in part because he felt they were being cowardly, or didn't have the balls to actually make a political satire set in their own country. But the other part was that he only went mean-spirited on them after they lied about him being onboard and excited about the movie.

Yeah self publishing really gave us a new golden age of fiction. All you ever see in self-publishing is complete penny dreadful trash, publishers exist for a reason.

Who the fuck said anything about self publishing?