>X-Men then
Protecting a world that hates and fears them
>X-Men now
Forming ethnostates that don't allow flatscans within their borders and blackmailing nations into giving mutant criminals amnesty in exchange for drugs
What went wrong?
>X-Men then
Protecting a world that hates and fears them
>X-Men now
Forming ethnostates that don't allow flatscans within their borders and blackmailing nations into giving mutant criminals amnesty in exchange for drugs
What went wrong?
Humanity.
Careful, Magnus. Some non mutants have the means to stomp you. Being a bully only means you get shot first when the shooter arrives.
this shit isn't going to end until mutants straight up colonize mars
I wonder if whirlwind is finally going to join the x-fray
Something happened to Xavier that'll be explained in Pox probably
Yeah but Magneto now has a whole bunch of other mutants backing him up
What the heck is up with Marvel "heroes" and fighting each other all the time?
This mother fuckers need Superman.
The only mutant that matters is Frankling. And unless you mind rape him, he is not gonna tolerate people fucking with his family.
Also, Reed Richards.
because their rogues galleries are full of shitters like paste pot pete and scorpion and almost all of them could be bodied by spider-man; there's no threat there anymore
But is it really necessary that Magneto and Scott should behave like aggressive fifteen year olds?
This guys SERIOUSLY need Superman.
It makes sense for marganalized or hated communities to leave and create their own communities where they can feel safe, equal and free. Why is that so wrong?
>Leave the society and accuse it for wrongfully condemning you.
>Establish a drug cartel.
I agree, which is why mexicans should leave USA
Same with fags, niggers and kikes
Do they call themselves gods?
>equating drugs that could potentially kill you to drugs that extend your lifespan and cure antibacterial resistant infections
They're much better than big pharma, who deliberately created the opioid crises in the US.
The X-Men have done absolutely nothing wrong yet.
Marvel humans
Real answer? Fox obtained the rights to the X-Men and Marvel was so petty about it that they actively tried to run the franchise into the ground so they could buy it back from Fox for cheap. The Inhumans were designed solely to be the 'new' X-Men which is why they were written to be superior to the X-Men any time the two groups interacted. Also why Marvel VS Capcom Infinite lacked any X-Men and the only ones in MvC3 were staples.
It only makes sense in this specific context because mutants are super powered beings that could kill a whole lot of people through no fault of their own.
in other words
>Fox owns x-men
>portray mutants as evil tyrants
>Marvel owsn x-men
>portray mutants as evil tyrants
what's the difference?
Krakoa has Proteus and Hope so they're not entirely helpless in the face of Franklin
All mutant utopias end in disaster and with humanity hating mutants even more. I don't know why they keep bothering.
Morals are relative.
This isn't about good vs bad.
I don't understand why Hickman thought that it would be revolutionary idea to rehash it agani
Hickman has already lampshaded this fact. PoX has a future where mutants are hunted and Xavier's dream is dead.
almost every Hickman comic is the same, at its core
even more original. There are also some sentinels/nimrods hunting them, right?
I don't know why the fuck they keep trying this shit on earth when there's any number of other planets they could colonize.
Scotts been doing that shit for like 10 years
Fox never owned the X-Men, they owned the rights to the films. At that point, Marvel actively tried to run the property into the ground, putting on shitty or unproven writers and turning them into antagonists (they were always kind of assholes, even back in their glory days).
I think Marvel got the rights back but the damage had already been done. IF Marvel wants to make X-Men heroic/good again (and that's a big if as they aren't nearly the same draw they were up to the early 2000s) it'll take quite some time.
Even in another planet the mutants would find a way to fuck earth.
If that map's accurate, we aren't 616 anymore
this but on a meta level
Apparently having laser eyes or rainbow nipples makes you a different race.
In all fairness Xavier's plan so far is better thoght out then " lets drop a giant peice of garbage in San Fran sisco bay and call it a country with out even talking to the un or more importantly nthe united states"
At least when Thor tried that he tried to make his "country" float so he could say it wasnt on us soil
Absolutely no reason to if the writers had the balls to see the concept through and just write about a mutant society on another planet.
stop being anal, you completely missed the point
They realized there was a void left from the Inhuman kingdom burning down and took their spot
Hope is a fucking cero.
>Thinking that the drugs aren’t either going to brainwash people or turn them into mutants.
I don't think I did. You were claiming that while the movie rights were still with Fox X-Men were portrayed as villains; but now that the rights are back with Marvel their portrayal is still the same evil tyrants as before. As I explained, Marvel only recently acquired Fox so undoing more than a decade of damage will take time and effort that Marvel may not be willing to spend. The answer to 'what went wrong' remains 'Marvel being petty cunts about Fox' and actively sabotaging the brand.
Thor doing it also led to a huge fuckup.
Doesn't Wakanda has the cure for cancer, but refuse to share it because "fuck whiteys"?
The point is that marvel doesn't want x-men to be heroic and that movie rights had nothing to do with the portrayal of the x-men. HoxPox were pitched when they knew that X-men were returning, as a matter of fact, that's how they managed to bring Hickman back, they got the budget back for x-books
>oh noo turns out xavier was ultimate reed all along
into the trash it goes
Correct. Which is why the whole notion of mutants being a different species is retarded too. Like no, that's not how it works. And mutants 'replacing' humanity just means that kids are going to be born with powers and that's going to keep happening until there's very few non powered humans left.
A whole world of powered beings would be interesting to explore desu.
She can literally copy Franklin's powers and power them up.
And tony stark could solve all energy problems and reed could cure any number of other diseases.
All of them are utter fucking trash for not sharing these things with the world.
We are. Hickman just said fuck it to some stuff.
Marvel already has an all perfect demigod and his name is Charles Xavier
Crange u be
can you imagine if that actually happened though
including Japan, apparently
Proteus is vulnerable to metal. Like seriously vulnerable to metal. As for Hope, her powers only works when you are within her vicinity. Franklin could easily erase her miles away.
>movie rights had nothing to do with the portrayal of the x-men.
Verifiabley false. Again, look at Marvel VS Capcom Infinite. The series originated as X-Men vs Street Fighter and the most recent installment had 0 reference to the brand despite Wolverine, Magneto, Sentinel, and Storm being hugely popular in previous games.
I think you might be the one missing the point. ~15 years of shitting on a brand makes it difficult to just do a complete 180 over the course of a year or two. The X-Men are, and have been written in a particular way for many years now and it will take time to move away from that.
Ok cool, Hope copies Proteus' powers and boosts Proteus' own powers
also Franklin is going to get brainwashed by Xavier anyway so it's kind of moot
use of x-men in games, or lack of thereof =/= portrayal in the comics. Especially that HoxPox is supposed to be The status quo for the next 15 years, but then again, nobody knows how it's going to end
That's fucking boring
>We're your new gods now
Why would half of the Mutants even follow this logic?
Like seriously most of ex-excalibur members would be rebelling against this stupidity in an instant
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 X-man DLC?
Xavier is almost certainly doing psychic mumbo jumbo to them
Its a Hickman book. Everyone is written out of character one way or another.
Hell I'm 90% sure Magnetos character from the last 10 years has been "we're not gods and to think so is retarded"
In the X Men's case they all turn good leaving us with crappy human or robot fodder enemies.
>and blackmailing nations into giving mutant criminals
This is the part I don't get, why do they want amnesty for guys like Sabretooth, Sebastian Shaw, and Mystique? Not only are they murderous monsters, they're race traitors too.
That is a dlc pack yes
Technically it was starks fuck up
They already planted a flower in the Martian Garden from Hickman's Avengers run
Nothing. Marvel humans are scum and the lowest of the low. They should all be purged and the only people that should remain are the heroes.
and you are right, even Bendis had made him reasonable.
>Heroes
>In marvel
After Civil War, the true heroes are very few.
>/ss/ blackmailing little boys into giving mutant prostitutes money in exchange for sex
>What went right?
Who are the primeverse True heroes at this point? The Spidey family obviously, maybe Strange and Thor but I have trouble thinking of more True good guys.
Enemies all around? Sounds like you need to leave.
I think turkish do call themselves ''he sends of Ala'' in Germany.
Not really accuse when they really do get lynched in the streets or sentinaled. And they need a source of income for their new home.
While I have a feeling we disagree on the reasons, I completely agree.
Black Hebrew do.
It makes more sense irl when people have very few ways to defend themselves against the majority.
KARA BOGA
Hwy user, how is Germany?
Because modern Marvel writers are all hacks that think character assasination means making them deep and flawed.
you say that like it's not out of the realm of possibility
I just finished Rise and Fall of the Shi'ar Empire. Should I read Messiah Complex or Emperor Vulcan next?
Messiah Complex actually affects the X-Men line going forward, Emperor Vulcan not so much.