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Does The Original JSA Members Have Personalities?
Jason Rogers
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Lucas Taylor
Yes, and it is the same for every single one of them.
Nolan Barnes
Let's find out. I'm going to post the first appearance of each. We'll go around the table, starting with...
Luis Jenkins
The Atom. In All-American Comics # 19
Justin Thomas
Behold the startling trauma that would set Al on the path to heroism
Zachary Martin
It's time for a training montage.
Josiah Wright
Dominic Powell
blessed thread
Connor Rivera
Remember the secret to ultimate strength is
100 Push-Ups
100 Sit-Ups
100 Squats
10 KM Running
Every single day
Andrew Green
And so begins the heroic adventures of Manlet Rage. He would get his costume in his next appearance. But no time for that, we're moving on to...
Liam Myers
The Sandman in Adventure Comics #40
Daniel Lopez
Bosh indeed
Alexander Cruz
Wesley puts a doll version of himself into bed to sleep for him.
Sebastian Campbell
Yes but mostly through retcons or later stories. Read the Justice Society Returns series for the best overview. Mr. Terrific in particular gets some great characterization.
Lincoln Foster
Brayden Torres
old scans are old.
Mason Phillips
Based page.
Owen Edwards
That guy doesn't look like a Tarantula at all.
Benjamin Perez
Haha rused. Sandman would keep his trenchcoat look for a while, but eventually switch to the yellow/purple supersuit number. But enough about that, it's time for...
Jaxon Cooper
The Spectre. In More Fun Comics #52
Cameron Fisher
The madman actually dunked him into the sink
Landon Gomez
The great american killer strikes, workaholism.
Brody Butler
Grayson Jackson
Jim is in the doghouse now.
Joseph Lopez
Evan Martinez
Evan Myers
The watery grave of Jim Corrigan
Jack Long
You don't get eternal peace, you have to turn people into dinosaurs...I mean fight evil
Henry Cooper
Connor Roberts
And Jim is back from the dead and needs to put on his green briefs and cape. And I should have probably done the first two appearances but it's too late, because now it's...
Jaxson Thompson
The Flash's turn
Jace Taylor
Flash in Flash comics #1, being the only one to start off in his own self-titled book.
Carter Myers
American's and their football and cigarettes and dangerous hard water exposure
Lucas Hughes
Easton Rogers
He's the Wheeeezer. Also that is some solid sciencing
Daniel Martin
Joan is an alpha level cheerleader
Dylan Watson
Reminds me of all the other superhero retellings where they deliberately not go into sports.
Luis Butler
So fast they didn't even show him stopping the robbery.
Logan Scott
Secret identities are for people who aren't Jay Garrick.
Jeremiah Reyes
Sebastian Jenkins
Asher Gutierrez
Their personalities became more distinct over time, like most characters.
Atom is tenacious and scrappy.
Carter is the team leader type like Optimus Prime or Lion-O.
Jay is the all-American smiling hero.
Ted is the cocksure tough guy.
Alan is somewhat more serious and dark compared to the others.
Read the 1999 JSA series, it's the easiest way to pick up on their individual personalities.
Joshua Ross
Thanks panel that explains everything, you're the original Flash Fact.
Noah Ross
Michael Smith
>why are you wearing that hat?
>In case I need to take off my clothes.
Jackson Green
Nathan Phillips
Joan is so far the best girl. Fortunately we don't have to go far for the next story since it is..
Xavier Thomas
The Hawkman. Also from Flash Comics #1.
Lincoln Lewis
Just the best origin for Hawkman passing by.
Matthew Barnes
Zachary Long
Khufu's knowledge of arcane science doesn't really come up much anymore.
Charles Howard
Luke Thomas
Christopher Garcia
James Jackson
Justin Jones
Anubis is the best Hawk God
Colton Gray
Carter wearing his mask like this is always weird.
Eli Campbell
Liam Nguyen
Hastor would not appear again until the 80s. But we inevitably move on to the next story such is the nature of...
Julian Fisher
Fate. Dr. Fate that is. From More Fun Comics #55.
Christopher Anderson
Reading bump.
Ryder Perry
it is jumping straight into it.
Christian Wright
Dr Fate's big trick is matter/energy conversion. Good to know.
Xavier Turner
he is pretty awesome. Also gorillas, this comic just got 2x better
Xavier Ross
Thanks for the storylines OP, love Dr.Fate, it's really cool to see his first appearance.
Easton Diaz
I can believe a lot of magical hoodoo, but you can't judo flip a gorilla.
Hunter Carter
This is what ever guy under 5'9 wants to be.
Isaiah Edwards
I cast fist, the oldest trick in the book. And that's how you defeat dark evil, also the dark things fear the light, the light of...
Dominic Adams
The Green Lantern. All American Comics #16
haha, I'm not OP. I'm just posting in his thread, that way I don't have to worry about bumps.
Nathaniel Rodriguez
storytime in a storytime.
Jack Gomez
That book that prophesied it would never be brought up again.
Josiah Garcia
Willpower is the magic of the flame.
Ryan Miller
Owen Carter
Caleb Sanchez
I can fly, wait maybe that means I can travel through the 4th dimension. Alan does not take small steps.
Christopher Watson
Gavin Bell
And that costume will never be forgotten. That's the start for Alan. Now it's time for...
Ryan Thomas
Hourman. In Adventure Comics #48
Charles Ramirez
I can't tell if it's old timey horseplay, some kind of weirdo grooming thing, or Jim was always an angry bugger.
Parker Ramirez
You can call Rex Tick-Tock, but never to his face.
John Harris
Everyone liked to put their logo on little notes back in the day.
Levi Thompson
You ever notice that Superheroes have a type when it comes to love interests?
Colton Wright
Almost as fast as a 1940s automobile is not as impressive as a bullet, but still good.
Adam Price
Drugs let you get hit by a car and not feel it, and they say comics are unrealistic.
Lincoln Hernandez
Jaxson Rogers
The hour is up for Hourman, but we have one more story to tell. Not pictured at the table...
Jaxon Wood
Johnny Thunder. Another Flash Comics #1 alumni.
Mason Ortiz
this is not the weirdest origin, but it's in the top twenty.
Jonathan Rogers
Jordan Hughes
What are they gonna do? Shoot at him?
Carter Butler
Josiah Brown
Austin Lee
Michael Nguyen
quack
Jaxon Watson
Julian Campbell
Hunter Jackson
We'd get to meet the Thunderbolt next issue and Johnny would later have the first appearance of Black Canary, who would quickly replace his feature with her own. But I have been remiss and forgot someone, although they didn't join the JSA they did appear in their first outing and help out...
Luis Baker
Ma Hunkel aka The Red Tornado. From All American Comics #20. her strip was more comedy focused.
Mason Morris
Colton Smith
the original tornado twins
Hunter Bell
This is where the Red Tornado starts. And I stop. Hope you enjoyed reading.
Nolan Carter
I wonder if this was the genesis for the "Hey Presto!" bit in Multiversity.
Gavin Roberts
Nice
Camden Myers
I've seen enough silent films to just think all women looked that way before 1950.
Ayden Nguyen
Wait hard water as in full of minerals that will lime up my showerhead, or hard water as in cubes of ice???
Joseph Parker
This seems oddly complicated, but I'm sure they'll smooth things out in the long run.
Christopher Baker
Wait I thought you were joking that the title was More Fun Comics. I thought you were taking a jab at OG Flash comics, until page 4 of this I bothered to look at the title.
Brody Gonzalez
>those top 3 panels
Well HELLO out of context Yea Forums images.
Jason Ross
Dangerous speed giving minerals that will lime up your showerhead.
Nicholas Long
Henry King
Check out More Fun Comics #73.
First appearance of Green Arrow....and Aquaman
Christopher Adams
THE SPEEDFORCE IS WHAT GLOGS UP SHOWERHEADS?
My God, does that mean Oxyclean is The Flash's Kryptonite?!?
Eli Johnson
And 72 years later, Jimmy was retconned as Alan's gay lover.
Zachary Butler
Golden age comics (with the exception of strips like Prince Valiant or John Carter) are fucking unreadable, man
Caleb Taylor
Still better than Aaronvengers, Soimmortal Hulk, Guardians of the Spork, Bendisman, or Sadbat
Christian Thompson
I always forget that Aquaman is a Golden Age character
Adam Johnson
>soimmortal hulk
people still bitching about one out of context page?
Ryan Roberts
>pee smells better than poo
Ian Green
What other era could think orange and green are a good costume combo.
Ethan Cox
It's trickly because unlike a lot of legacies, Aquaman sort of stayed the same from golden to silver age, and then silver into bronze. His origin would change a bit,but he acted like the same character. A lot of his origin story changes happened in the 1980s leading up to CoIE.
I don't think we ever saw the "golden age Aquaman" on Earth-2.
Joseph Hernandez
I liked Ostrander's Corrigan and Wagner's Dodds a lot.
Eli Reyes
All these storytimes and no answer...
Brayden Brown
See
Hudson Thompson
Yeah but it took a while.
Roy Thomas tried to in All Star Squadron/Infinity Inc but honestly he wasn't a good enough writer to cross the finish line, but he had the entire golden age to juggle. James Robinson picked up on Thomas's leads and did a lot in Golden Age and Starman to flesh out the JSA then Johns arguably locked them (or their heirs) in place. Ostrander Spectre & Wagner on Sandman of course as well.
Kevin Perry
JSA: The Golden Age is so good that most people don’t realize it’s an Elseworlds story.
Jordan Cruz
Yes.
Any other questions?
Austin Anderson
10/10
I'm glad I found this thread, thanks for posting
Michael Nelson
>>So immortal Hulk
What did he mean by this?
Levi Gonzalez
Lucas Howard
>More Fun Comics #52
>52
Really this is some..
Grayson Barnes
Damn you Doctor Manhattan, damn you forever
Tyler Anderson
Some scans are really awful, barely legible. If they're not, they can be a bit hokey, but still entertaining. Though, I am a Golden Age Captain Marvel fan, so I'm a bit biased.
Cooper Reed
When DID Dinah join the JSA? I know in most modern versions they were basically her surrogate family.
Asher Barnes
He's not really all that small is he.
Jackson Richardson
Dr. Fate wouldn't get an actual origin story for a year. The closest before that was this panel, from All Star Comics #3. It seems a bit unfair that we got everyone but his, so I'm going to follow up with it.
Cooper Ortiz
Dr. Fate. More Fun Comics #67
Jaxon Anderson
Enter Nabu
Nathan Ward
Ancient Alien Wizard
Asher Barnes
Jesus how can one image have so much homoeroticism.
Also
>Major Victory being disgusted by Dynamic Man and Dynamic Boy
Kevin Bell
Nathaniel Flores
Easton Martinez
Inza and Fate had an interesting formula. Inza would often research/discover the problem then call in Fate to come in a punch everything with wizard fists.
Blake Walker
Don't forget Jay being best dad, Alan being bad dad, and Ted being that uncle who buys you porn and beer.
Brandon Russell
Dinah became an honorary member in All-Star Comics #38, a few months after her first appearance. She helped them defeat Attila the Hun and Genghis Khan.
Sebastian Scott
...
Cooper Taylor
Now someone could storytime Starman, Black Canary and Doctor Midnite first appearances.
Mason Roberts
Can we stop and appreciate how Blue Beetle and V-Man are full "Armageddon has arrived."
Brody Flores
You got it buddy.
Let's start with Starman, in Adventure Comics #61
Lucas Butler
That fourth panel is a thing of beauty.
Joshua Ortiz
Christian Long
He'd like to come and meet us
But he's afraid he'd blow our mind.
Joshua Johnson
Then in the years that followed, this changed to
>Nabu engineered Nelson's dad's death to get freed from that trap
>Nabu froze time so Kent could be taught and age normally
>Later changed again to "Nabu magically aged Kent up from a kid to adult in a few months"
Noah Hughes
Causing everything with a motor to burst into flames is a good trick
Ethan Bailey
The one thing that never changes is Nabu's kind of a dick.
Charles Phillips
Ryder Johnson
Aaron White
It's a pretty spectacular way to fuck up the electrical grid, too.
Benjamin Moore
Secret Brotherhood of the Electron, is kind of wordy, and you're not allowed to put Secret in your own name. It's gauche.
Jackson Nelson
I believe it's Dr. DOOOG
William Lee
Blake Kelly
Thought walls were a standard power used by anyone wearing a robe.
Brayden Long
Doog with a U sound or with an O sound? We'll never know.
Cameron Brown
These dames sure got their mustard up.
Carter Hall
That was Starman, but it's Midnite time now. Straight from a very worn out scan of All American Comics #25
Carter Ward
Like I said, Superheroes just have a type. Apparently the sexiest thing you can do for a caped guy is bust his chops.
Matthew Flores
Just zoom in as needed
Jayden Sanders
Dr. McNider gets blinded and starts writing real life crime novels
Dominic Evans
Guy just tosses a damn bomb into a hospital. Fucking monstrous but what a power move.
Logan Wilson
Someone just chucked an owl through that guy's window.
Jonathan Ward
Who shoots a baker? This guys is nuts
Aaron Mitchell
Infrared glasses and blackout bombs created. Also everyone has to know he went to medical school, even if he is wearing a mask.
Brody Phillips
Vigilante surgery
Nathaniel Cox
Charles Sullivan
You seem knowledgable
How many of these were reintroduced in Sandman Mystery Theatre?
Tyler Roberts
Okay time for Black Canary. But I'm going for a double bill. Her first appearance has her as a brief appearance in Johnny Thunder, then her first feature appearance.
Xavier Butler
Black Canary during this brief period was doing the whole pretending to be a criminal in order to fight crime thing.
Dominic Baker
And was using Johnny to stir things up
Anthony Wood
I don't recall off the top of my head.
Carson Long
so that's why she's a hooker
Leo Flores
Everyone is robbing everyone.
Nicholas Fisher
Haha Thunderbolt, you tell him.
Ian Brooks
Guess it makes sense with all these Superheroes around robbing an honest person just puts you on their radar.
Hunter Campbell
That was Flash Comics #86, This is Flash Comics #92. And our girl has got her own feature.
Lucas Jackson
Do not call Dinah, baby. Noted
Eli Anderson
Jason Anderson
Mistress of Jiu-Jistu never stuck as a title for Black Canary. Maybe for the best.
Nathaniel Baker
>Hourman (Rex)
>Ted Knight before he became Starman
>The Crimson Avenger
>Blackhawk
>Doctor Mid-Nite (pre blinding) does appear in one issue. He (serious spoilers) tells Dian where she can get an abortion
>Corrigan
Adam Gonzalez
Talk about a meet cute.
Juan Moore
Nathaniel Reyes
Fourth panel is definitive Black Canary.
Brody Perez
Dinah is basically the same archetype as all those other romantic interests we've seen, but also a heroine in her own right.
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Connor Rogers
Dinah and Larry would end up marrying, having a kid, and the rest is of course history.
Landon Robinson
...
Angel Harris
When did Dinah and Ollie first meet?
Nolan Morales
I mean if you can beat up a few guys and bust a planet no problem, a dame who can bust your balls is probably the most exciting thing that can happen to you.
Bentley Lewis
Wings, every artist’s greatest weakness.
Leo Nelson
Oh shit, racketeers!
Adam Myers
>When did Dinah and Ollie first meet?
They first MET in Justice League of America #19, the first JLA-JSA crossover. Dinah was a JSA-er at this point and they had no real interactions in the story. They met a few more times in other crossover meetings but nothing really happened until Dennis O'Neil took over scripting the title with issue #66 in 1968 and quickly changed Ollie up to become the angry leftie he remains today. Then in issues #74-75, that year's JSA crossover, Dinah's long-time husband Larry was killed and she transitioned to Earth-1 to join the JLA in order to work with her grief. She also discovered she gained sonic powers through the dimensional crossing. Pretty much immediately after that O'Neil paired Ollie and Dinah up.
It's funny, it's the kind of thing that would draw immense outrage today - new writer swoops in, kills off a character's long-time romantic interest and then throws her together with his new pet character on the team AND gives her surprise new superpowers. But that's how Dinah became the character we know today, so not many complain.
The issue with Dinah and Dinah Jr was a later (EXTREMELY MESSY) retcon.
John Allen
He was patterned after real-life strongman Joe "The Mighty Atom" Greenstein, who was 5'4".
Mason Phillips
A lot of the original JSA-ers were either co-created by or mostly written by JSA writer Gardner Fox (who would much later also be the original writer on the JLA). He was kind of the workhorse at DC in the 1940s, 50s and 60s. He did a ton of work but wasn't the most distinctive writer a lot of the time, so character development wasn't really his thing. He came from the pulp science fiction community and those stories frequently had rather featureless protagonists set in weird mystery stories, and his superhero stories tended towards that even by the end of his career.
For example when Fox wrote Green Lantern stories with Hal the focus always tended to be on the menace or the weird situation Hal found himself in, whereas Hal's other main writer in the silver age John Broome liked to do stories that showcased Hal's personality (his bravery, never-say-die tenacity and occasional foolhardiness).
That being said, some of the JSAers had more of a personality in the golden and silver age than others, as noted.
Tyler Green
Interesting. In your opinion who was the best character writer of the golden/silver age.
Isaiah Watson
That's really fucking hard to say because character was rarely the focus. The obvious cheater answer would be either Will Eisner on Spirit or Jack Cole on Plastic Man, since they both had very unique voices for their characters and settings. The Captain Marvel run by C.C. Beck is also quite good in this regard though I forget if he was also the writer or if someone worked with him. None of these were DC/AAC titles of course.
Isaac Edwards
jesus christ fuck zero hour
Austin King
It feels so weird to see a young Jay Garrick.
Camden Clark
Adam Strange silver age stories were fucking amazing. Alanna was also not your typical useless Damsel in Distress and actually helped him out while not taking away from his heroics.
Adam Moore
Justice bump.
Owen Edwards
Easton White
A fucking hero and an idol to every short guy who was ever mocked