The public is waking up

>For fuck's sake, some of them don't know Walt Disney's long dead.
Emphasis on some, as a whole even the most normal people know that he's dead, fuck cryogenically frozen Disney jokes are common as shit

He's right about teens finding out about it though. I can't tell you how many times I heard that repeated in high school, and I went to an inner city school. Literally every time somebody had a Lion King backpack someone would mention the Kimba thing.

It's just zoomers or normies now discovering something people have been talking about since the 90s. It's like some people only recently found out the truth about Michael Jackson.

What do you think was the reason they denied it took inspiration from Kimba? I mean it's obvious, there's lot of visuals that are extremely similar. They could have just said "we appreciate mr. Tezuka and what he has done to animation, and we took inspiration from his work", but instead they outright lied they had never even seen it.

Is it because back then the internet wasn't such a big thing and they thought something like that could never spread to the public?

It was In the fucking Simpsons 20 years ago

OP AND THE REST OF THE Yea Forums RETARDS BTFO AGAIN

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Kimba ads were included on Pokemon VHS tapes

>it's actually just typos

It's so weird since they're the adaptation guys

Tezuka's entire aesthetic was basically lifted from Disney movies, but nobody likes to talk about that because it makes him look derivative despite his long career of creative output. I don't think he would be wholly upset if Disney creatives took inspiration from him in return.
>Oh but that's different because he never hid his Disney influences
And technically Disney didn't either considering a lot of people who worked on the project legit thought they were just making a retell.

I assume it would have been just too much to say that they took something from the Japanese back in 1995. USA is only now getting rid of the Jap hating.

>but nobody likes to talk about that
What are you saying? Everyone knows that he pretty much copied the Duck comics American soldiers left in Japan.

The copying itself is not the issue, it's that when Roger Allers and Rob Minkoff were confronted about it they said they had never heard of Osamu Tezuka or Kimba, even though Allers had even lived in Japan in the 80s. That would never fly today.

U wot? Japan made huge cultural inroads into the US by the mid 90s and while they had a business rivalry before then, actual bashing of the Japanese beyond that had largely ended by the 70s.

Influence and blatantly ripping off something are two different things, retard.

You are a normalfaggot dumbass, shut the fuck up.

Not for real artists it isn't.

>t. artist who never made art

I'm a writer. We steal too.

No, we homage and are inspired by GET IT RIGHT

Kimba isn't anything like lion King, anyone who says that hasn't watched them both

>a cartoon about animals
>later, a movie about animals is made

truly the same thing!

there's more similarities between 1 scifi franchise and another, and one fantasy franchise and another, etc.

>My fucking mom's the person that told me about it at first
ha ha your mom is a nerd
why don't you go play dnd with her you loser

Damn.
Yea Forums is finished.

I wish I had a mom cool enough to be into table top RPG's.

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We never played tabletops, but I used to play Lineage II with my mom and go on boss raids together.

yeah two stories about young lion losing his father and growing up to claim back his throne is just a coincidence

Mad Jelly.

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this jelly looks rather peaceful, though

It happens all the time in nature, bit exactly original. In fact it's dated, lions are slowly being phased out due to poachers, and in the power vacuum, hippos are ruling the savannah.

youtube.com/watch?v=nZ45n3mTXPw

>bit exactly original.

What did he mean by this?

When did the comparisons start? If they were relatively early in the films run they might have been trying to protect a product people didn't have much faith in from something that might hurt its chances.

Alternatively maybe some people on staff were taking inspiration from Kimba, but the people doing interviews/pr weren't and they didn't want their work associated with something they hadn't been aware of in the process?

Or maybe it was a legal thing. For whatever reasons corporate felt like they might get sued by whoever owns the rights to Kimba, told the people making it to deny any influence.

Does anyone actually give a shit?

youtube.com/watch?v=vHps2iC8W3o

>Guaranteed views

When I was a kid my sisters and I got into DnD and my mom DMd for us. It was actually pretty cool.

I would have died for sisters to play table top RPG's to play with.

>Disney's new Lion King dodges similarity issue with Kimba
And it does so by being something that nobody wants to claim they inspired.

There are court documents from when Disney attempted to copyright Kimba and got blocked because of the massive similarities the judge saw. They absolutely knew and lied out of both sides of their mouth about it because the internet didn't exist and they knew they could get away with it.

behold its amazing evidence... two lions eating!

lions playing!

the very same animals... that exist in africa!

a lion fighting!

footage from a movie that was released after the lion king!

if there were "massive similarities" disney got rid of all of them, as the closest similarities in the finished picture are animals, a rock, and a swahili word

I saw Kimba on Cracked.con back when I used to visit Cracked.com frequently, and that was like back in 2013.

I wish I had a mom and sisters to play tabletop RPGs with, and then we'd all take showers together like a family.

>mentions 60s series
>shows 80s series

A great hentai story line.

Not exactly original. Sorry, phoneposting.

Because they can lol
When you can afford the lawyers, what reason would you have to legally admit that you were taking inspiration from someone else when you can instead say "Yeah no this is all 100% original and copyrighted by us, and if anyone else tries to do what we did we're going to sue them to hell and back"

We made a pretty good team - I was a human cleric, older sis was an elven sorceress, and younger sis was a halfling rogue. Mom DMd a homebrew campaign for us that went for about a year or so.

>I only just recently discovered this that means I am an intellectual
Go suck you mother's dick your fucking dumb. Now I am not saying that Lion King didn't rip off Kimba, I am saying that none of you faggots have ever seen Kimba before and 99% of people that say that Lion King is shit because of this never would've even noticed if somebody on the internet didn't point it out for them. You faggots are not funny for making the same joke repeated ad naseum for 25 fucking years and you are not some astute observer in cinema for pointing that out, there are already fucking hundreds of fucking articles about that subject already.

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>your fucking dumb.

Irony.

Will the public wise up that Tezuka (and all of anime in that regard) stole from western animation?

>He misspelled shit I am going to disregard everything else I just said
Ok faggot whatever you say, it's not like I could've just woken up when I typed that or anything.

>exactly the same angles
>exactly the same animals in exactly the same roles
But yes, I'm sure that hyenas serving a scarred, dark-manned lion, friendly parrots and wisdom-dispensing mandrils is something that regularly happens in Africa. And Roy Disney calling the protag of their upcoming movie "Kimba" is also a pure coincidence.

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Emphasis on long. Didney does weird shit like put his signature on the thumbnail of the Youtube version of the movie and people don't get what's odd about it. People understand he's dead, they just often aren't aware how fucking long it's been.

Wow, you are the most obvious Disney shill in like, ever.

>Didney

You had one job.

>I assume it would have been just too much to say that they took something from the Japanese back in 1995. USA is only now getting rid of the Jap hating.
Uh, what is videogames? Godzilla? Automobiles? You are not helping your case, shill.

I'm watching the original Kimba. It's nothing like Lion King in terms of plot or characters. When does the plagiarism kick in?

I was being cheeky so I wouldn't get a reply of "How's he doing that if he's dead?"

>nobody likes to talk about that
It's brought up all the time, so much so that many people think anime was stolen wholesale from Disney.

Tezuka took inspiration from Disney's character designs, but Disney just outright ripped off Kimba and would have been found guilty of plagiarism in a fair trial.

How much were you paid to make this post?

Five Disney coins have been deposited into your account.

Funny. I know one other word that ends with -imba.

Animefags who never cared about Tezuka or watched any of his stuff try to take credit for it to "own it to the man" despite anime never even getting close in any work they ever made to the quality of TLK, let alone any of the actual Disney greats. They think it justifies their powerpoint human-filled MHA garbage for some reason

>despite anime never even getting close in any work they ever made to the quality of TLK

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The quality of an animated movie or show is not measured by how many frames of animation per second it has.

>powerpoint
Confirmed for not knowing anything about anime.

I watched the old Kimba anime when I was in preschool.

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if it's an adaptation then why is the name different? and if it's a supposed original work that rips off kimba, why would they include the same protagonist's name? that's the most obvious thing to change.

any fantasy, scifi, etc. series shares many more similarities, virtually identical characters.

Show of hands, how many people have actually seen or read Jungle Emperor?

>any fantasy, scifi, etc. series shares many more similarities, virtually identical characters.
It's time to stop astroturfing.

I have. I find it odd that people are so fixated on the dub. The titular character is named Leo.

They are fixated on the dub because it is what most Western viewers have access to. The manga is not in English past very old scanlation work and no one likes any of the anime series with Leo in it to give them fansubs. The late '90s movie was brought over to the west and does call him Leo, but follows the last part of the manga which was more about his son.

>didn't have Boomerang growing up to watch Kimba
Fucker, come on, it's obvious The Lion King is a ripoff. I actually hope you are a shill.

>look at an episode of the Kimba anime series
>kimba tells humans to stop an attack over the radio

Damn, straight out of the Lion King

Oh hi I was expecting you to show, how are things?

>ignore all the similarities and focus only on what is different
Damn, straight out of the Disney astroturfer instruction manual.

If you have nothing on-topic to say then why say anything at all?

> MC deceased parents appeal to him in the form of a cloud
> A bad guy is a black mane lion with scar on his eye, his minion is hyenas.
> MC switch his diet to something else that his kind don't eat.
Yes they may not steal the story, but they did steal a lot of scenes from Kimba.

I like how you didn't even bother to read the first two sentences. But now that you mentioned this all you have to do is go to the wikipedia plot summary of kimba the white lion and see that it has entirely different themes and plot like pointed out. Giving Disney shit for bullshitting about it's influences is completely fair game but anybody that tries to diminish the accomplishments Lion King has made because of a dead meme is a sub-iq brainlet especially when every other disney films are already heavily based on other existing stories.

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Disney did market the Lion's King as the most original story ever. They probably don't want to look like a liar

If you hate comics and cartoons why are you on a comics and cartoon board?

>Normies are only now finding out.
youtube.com/watch?v=YOOb_o06adA

Next you'll say Simpsons isn't as normie as it gets.

In term of plot the 2 movies actually quite difference, but in term of shot, visual and scenes there a lot of similarities, too similar to be just happen by chance.

How does expecting people to stay on topic mean that I hate comics and cartoons? Are you on drugs?

Because it's a 'Disney adaptation', ofc they would make substantial changes, take Hercules for example. It's obvious TLK has its own merits and on its own is a very impressive film, but that doesn't take away that proper credit wasn't given.

They try to block the showing of Kimba anime adaptation at the film festival

>They try to block

They are still doing it?

I mean when the Kimba movie came out they tried to block it.

How? He never mentioned having the traits of one.

I also heard a guy who was wearing a Kimba t-shirt was escorted out of Disneyland a few years ago, it caused a stir.

So... Is your mum a nerd, user?

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MJ was a weirdo but he didn't molest anyone.

do we really need to bring up similiar movies to explain why the remake is shit? we already know it's shit.

>Kimba
>Movie

>even though Allers had even lived in Japan in the 80s
What does that have to do with him knowing what Kimba is?

Both of them are copies of Hamlet.

And the Lion King 2 is such a blatant copy of Romeo and Juliet, they actually state that in the credits-

where is that guy that posted weekly astroboy chapters ? i wonder how's he doing....i miss that guy :(

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Tell your supervisor that they need to come up with new scripts, you are too obvious now.

youtube.com/watch?v=vHps2iC8W3o

Based

>but that doesn't take away that proper credit wasn't given.
I was not disputing that, however there is a difference between "Ripping off" something and taking inspiration from something which was what my point was trying to make, the most damning thing you can ever say about this whole controversy is that disney were being gigantic cunts by pretending the influences were never there due to either pride or arrogance. In that case there is really nothing to argue over here because we are already in agreement here.

tezuka would of had watch the lion king went home and then proceed to draw kimba x lion king porn

that's the trush we talk about.

That one shot from a downward angle was actually ripped off from bambi, but other than that lion king stole.

???

>would of

School has failed you.

I remember her, I used to watch her then she never shut up about the lion king and kimba so I stopped.

HE'S TALKIN BOUT CRIMBA FLIMBA SIX BONG M8, BLOODY HELL GUV

>Twitter is an accurate cross section of the general public
Had a good laugh, thanks user.

Because everytime you show up it's to shit on animation or comics

Lion King was going to literally be an adaptation of Kimba but they somehow lost the rights. They went ahead and made it anyway, just changing the name and the color of his fur. That's what actually happened.

>Lion King was going to literally be an adaptation of Kimba but they somehow lost the rights.

[citation needed]

Given how much the Japanese worship Disney, you really think they would have denied the chance for Leo to be adapted to the big screen by Disney, if they have had given the rights in the first place?

Every time you show up you get butthurt because you think you are entitled to make false statements about anime and animation without anyone being allowed to contradict you. Then you start talking about me instead of the topic.

The rights were held by a shitty american company for the longest time I think abc since they paid to have the series made in the first place.
They didn't sell them to disney.

>Given how much the Japanese worship Disney
People really exaggerate this.

Ignore him, he's just a westcuck that has never even seen an anime.
It's obvious at a glace that the west has never actually made anything coming close to anime, and most """""western""""" cartoons are made in asia anyway especially """""american""""" cartoons making them korean cartoons in the first place.

>It's obvious at a glace that the west has never actually made anything coming close to anime

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Even the Simpsons referenced this

Song of the Sea looks extremely simplistic.

Not the oringinal user. but I have an itching feeling that the "truth about MJ" was about how he wasn't a pedo and how Leaving Neverland was a glorified tabloid story that shouldn't be taken at face value.

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Its really weird because in Japan itself such copying is seen as a sign of respect, anime does it all the time

Not even that, lmao it would be considered poorly animated when compared to the highest tier of anime.

There is not a single anime film, series, or short that could reach Fantasia alone. Let alone something like individual Looney Tunes shorts

Yeah. Adaptations of public domain stuff that's free to use lmao
Disney = Das Juden

Pastel Memories had an episode completely memory holed and removed from streaming and the blurays because it copied part of another anime too closely (for parody purposes).

I don't know why anyone in Japan would take Disney's behavior as a sign of respect. Clearly no respect is happening here.

There is no basis in reality for this claim.

>Comes to a cartoon board to shit on cartoons while fapping off to anime and saying why you want shit to be like anime when we're here specifically to avoid anime-like shows
>Thinks no one can contradict you and different opinions are "false"
I don't go to Yea Forums and get triggered

Tezuka got more from Betty Boop than Disney, anyone with EYES can see that. Fuck this meme

You brought up anime, not me. If you don't want to talk about it then don't bring it up.

>Thinks no one can contradict you
Projection.

>and different opinions are "false"
Falsehoods are falsehoods even if you try to dress them up as "opinions."

Yeah the public, by which you mean Twitter. And like many things on Twitter, it will be forgotten in a week for the next trend, and nothing will be accomplished. People will still pay to watch nuLion King, Disney will still make bank, and they'll keep pumping out remakes.

A lot of time wasted for nothing to happen

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I did not make a thread that essentially said western animation is copying from anime. That's what this thread is and its blatant shitposting shouldn't be allowed
What falsehoods though? Anime is known for its limited animation with a few seconds of real animation occasionally splurged in

True, but Disney did awaken the furry within him, arguably what started him down the path to animation

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>I did not make a thread that essentially said western animation is copying from anime
And? You still brought it up.

>Anime is known for its limited animation with a few seconds of real animation occasionally splurged in
This is a myth. Thanks for confirming once again that you don't know what you're talking about.

Megas XLR, Avatar (the first one)

Redline

You're both cucks

>Megas XLR
Have you ever seen any mecha anime?

What if you told you Yea Forums Niggers that all the 90s Disney movies are over rated garbage? You're all basic white girls from tumblr, Lion King legitimately is not good

aaand here comes the
>it doesn't count because I say so
cucks, both of you

Ironic how Disney brought about their own dirty laundry.

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Yes your point? That it makes the live action even worse? That normies are just sheep? That you determined shit from Shinola Sherlock?

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I will say Redline is based and anime would be more respected if more were like it

This is Megas XLR:
youtube.com/watch?v=poV2mZuVOjI

This is a mecha anime:
youtube.com/watch?v=mYe_-oFkMaI

Yeah, it comes real close.

Disney's been doing it for decades, and you only just realize this now?

>Using opening titles as a reference point
C
U
C
K

Yeah but that's gay shit, I'm talking about mecha

So despite Megas' opening looking like that, you think it's very close to anime? The opening is the easiest part to get right.

>Shinola Sherlock
Who? I've been annoyed with Disney for over 15 years. When they bought Marvel I thought we were fucked, but so far I've been proven wrong, thankfully

>Lewd Mice.

Do you not realize how stupid the mass public is? They see Disney REmakes in droves. They gave Captain Marvel nearly 400million dollars and lie that its good.

Bandwagoners gonna bandwagon.

Fuck off, westcuck.

Actually westcuck shows have less animation.
And stop fucking replying to westcucks, they'll never really understand anime they still watch cartoons intentionally made for people under 5 years old.

why is the mom not white?

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Because Kimba's father has god tier taste in women.

>disney got rid of all of them
You've never seen any of the side-by-side comparisons, have you? Just about every single iconic scene in Lion King was directly ripped from Kimba.

Some people think Walt Disney is a fictional character.

>mentions redline being better than fantasia
>still a westcuck
yeah okay weeb, keep sucking those 2 inch dicks.

Yeah...totally waking up. Like they have been for the last two decades

Now I want a Sonichu-esque toon of Walt and Mickey

OH NO NO NO

Better a weeb than a westcucks, you retard you've already admitted redline is better than anything the west has ever made.
Why are you willingly watching and possibly paying an inferior product? Huh westcuck?

To be fair, people are more aware of Stan Lee now than Walt Disney.

Disney didn’t steal the story, but they totally stole some of character designs and their roles as well as a few of the scenes.

I said it was based not better. Not even close. Not even giving any consideration to the west's short industry
Why are you willingly watching and possibly paying an inferior product? Huh weebcuck?

Let's not create monsters.

>chink steals your style , you let it pass beacause they already suffered enough
>some years later you take some nice concept from him and adapt it with more hamlet references
>internet intellectuals act like you are some big evil guy beause of this

bahahahaha
Lion King will be remembered as a shitty ripoff as it should be "Disney's first original film!" lol

I mean, even the Simpsons were aware of it decades prior,

I mean, if we are being serious, The Lion King is as much an adaptation of Kimba, the White Lion as Big Hero 6 is an adaptation of the comics.

>It's like some people only recently found out the truth about Michael Jackson.

That he was completely innocent?

>so well-known that even the Simpsons poked fun at it
>obscure

I don't get it

>obscure
>He never watched the entire Pokemon VHS that showed a Kimba trailer and Ranma 1/2 Movie 1 trailer at the end

It's a bunch of people discovering Kimba the White Lion the first time. Chances are it's because of the plagiarism controversy that's been going on for almost 30 years now.

Funny enough, it wasn't just mice.
There's an entire book of all the lewd shit he drew. Guy was 100% a furry. I guess Disney cartoons do that to ya'.

Wow! Disney is finished!

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>It's a bunch of people discovering Kimba the White Lion the first time.
I guarantee you they're not actually watching it. Probably just saw one of those youtube videos about it that keep getting recommended.

>mentions new lion king
>shows 90s lion king

Fpbp

Simba is the Swahili word for Lion. Kimba is a play on the word simba, a small homage to the daughter off some TV exec at the time named Kimberly. He's just Leo in the original.

Wtf what truth

I guess that makes Lilo and Stitch their first original film them