Why did Spider-Verse perform so badly?
Why did Spider-Verse perform so badly?
Joshua Cooper
Ian Baker
Not enough Peni.
Justin Roberts
It did extremely badly internationally.
Look at every other movie on that chart. Only the first two Ramie movies were even close to that %, and only Spider-verse is more Domestic than International
Adrian Flores
Mason Peterson
Jayden Brown
Adult people thinks it is for kids and they only watch live-action Spider-man in theatre.
Kids prefer watching illumination/WDAS mediocre productions
Only hardcore comics fan in Yea Forums or reddit pay the tickets to watch
Jayden Moore
>Spider-verse is more Domestic than International
I blame poor marketing on it, absolutely nothing on this side. Shit I only knew Spider-verse came out because of Yea Forums.
Isaac Rogers
>multiverse shit flopped
Good
Lucas Moore
I watched it because you guys memed it so much but it was pretty boring. Prowler was cool though.
Why did Kingpin just stand there like a retard instead of finishing the job? The entire movie he was brutally efficient except for that scene.
Nathan Flores
Hudson Scott
Get woke go broke
Jackson Taylor
>$375 mil is "doing badly" for a 90 million dollar animated movie (not even counting the copious merchandising tie-ins)
Stop talking about shit you have literally no comprehension of you dumb cunts, jesus fucking christ this board is so god damn stupid.
Gabriel Fisher
Aaron Hill
She cute.
Ryan Perez
It’s similar to Shazam, good audience reviews, profitable but not quite impressive performance in box office.
Colton Bennett
Just to give you dumb fucking retards some reference for this box office bullshit:
Spider-Man 1 Production Budget: 198 million (inflation adjustment)
Spider-Man 3 Production Budget: 271 million (inflation adjustment)
Spider-Man 3 Production Budget: 310 million (inflation adjustment)
The Amazing Spider-Man 1 Production Budget: 230~ million estimate
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Production Budget: 260~ million estimate
Spider-Man Homecoming Production Budget: 175 million
Spider-Man Far From Home Production Budget: 160 million
NOW.
FOR FUCKING COMPARISON
Spider-Man Into The Spider-Verse: 90 million.
Weird how the spider-man movie that got the least amount of money also happened to, by a wide fucking margin, be the absolute cheapest to make.
Funny how that works.
I just hate this stupid memeshit that if a movie doesnt do god damn Avengers numbers its somehow a complete box office bomb failure.
Wyatt Rodriguez
Joshua Carter
>The best movie in the series does the worst overall
Why is this such a common occurrence? Why do people at large seem to have such garbage taste?
Cameron Miller
Because it was up against a big live action Superhero movie and people value live action over animation. I told people here that before these films even came out and I was told Aquaman would flop. Still that wasn't as retarded as the people who said Wonder Woman was doomed because of Captain fucking Underpants
Blake Sanchez
Brayden Martin
>Original trilogy box offices adjusted for inflation:
>Spider-Man 3 would be 1.1 billion
>Spider-Man would be 1.7 billion
>Spider-Man 2 would be 1 billion
>not adjusting for inflation just to make Far From Home and Homecoming look good.
Really makes you think.
Brandon Williams
Connor Reyes
Sebastian Bell
No idea
Spider-verse, Bumblebee and Shazam are all the best of their respective franchises and they just got ignored
Matthew Ortiz
God I love you morons getting so buttflustered.
No-one gave a shit about this movie. Deal with it.
Wyatt Morales
I didn't see it because the waifu spamming was obnoxious and put me off.
Luke Reed
Spider-Verse definitely didn't get critically or culturally ignored, it was universally acclaimed as the best spider-man movie and even unironically one of the best movies of that year for its sheer style and positive message.
Just, for whatever reason, it didn't make as much bank as Spider-Man fucking 3.
Carter Cox
Because it's movie about miles morales and his shitty family drama not about Spider man team up. They spend too much time on miles morales, his uncle and his father while all spidermans other than miles morales barely have any screen time, people want to see Spidermans not miles morales and his family. It's ridiculous that miles's uncle get more fighting scene than most Spidermans other than miles of course.
Joseph Rogers
1. It's not part of MCU
2. It looks "too childish" to the normies, who prefer absolute crap like TLK 2019
Grayson Campbell
This is why the gays are taking over your country user
James Watson
All the fags on here thought it would make a billion because incredibles 2 made a billion. Lololol
Christopher Peterson
>budget: 90 million
>earnings: 375 million
Oh no it only made a 1/3 of the money that movies with twice the budget made.
Zachary Gonzalez
Hunter Garcia
It actually did good in terms of getting new viewers to watch a superhero movie. I know lot of people who don't bother watching any because there's too many of them, but lot of them enjoyed this movie.
Julian Wright
>universally acclaimed
Delusional moron.
>positive message.
There was no message at all. What's the message fag?
Benjamin Long
Aiden Morgan
>Muh budget
>The Secret Life of Pets
> $75 million budget
>$875 million box office
Josiah Cook
Kevin Nguyen
when will the public get tired of Spider-Man media
Cooper Diaz
>Minions
>$74 million budget
>1 billion and 159 million box office
Adam Sanchez
They had until he entered the MCU, Sony lucked out with this deal
Zachary Stewart
How much was the marketing?
Noah Lopez
>An "anime" character is the most popular in a western cartoon
Sure is inferior in here
Julian Brooks
China doesn’t want to see a movie about a nigger
Carson Martinez
Xavier Hill
Does it matter? Minions made more than Civil War
Henry Lopez
imagine people believing pet2 flopping would bankrupt illumination
Joseph Lewis
based ricists. now if only they could free tibet and aknowledge tien an men massacre
Parker Carter
and stop this HK bullshit
shits crazy man
Justin Russell
Carter Baker
Bentley Morgan
Funnily enough the Asian markets are where Spider-Verse did the best. In Europe it did worse than Shazam
Charles Young
Media was hounding everyone to go see the first movie about le first black spider-man. And now you are making up excuses about failing to beat a spin-off film about yellow tic tacs.
Evan Scott
>for whatever reason
That's actually pretty simple: people base if they're gonna pay to see the next movie on the last one they saw that was most like it.
Spider-Man II was great, so the third one made bank despite being such a shitshow. Meanwhile the best reference we had for Into the Spider-Verse, being a Spidey movie Sony handled without Marvel involved, was the Amazing Spider-Man II. We were just too worried Sony would fuck it up again.
Thomas Robinson
I mean, it looked spectacular off of the first trailer.
Joshua Sanders
Kayden Williams
Josiah Ortiz
It looked gorgeous, yet I was immediately worried the story would be a fucking disaster. The suit in the Amazing Spider-Man II was incredible and the webswinging was superb, but it couldn't save that movie either. That's just what Sony has conditioned me into fearing from them.
Jace Cook
I ran out of pictures, pls post more
Cooper Richardson
Animation is still stigmatized and seen as a predominantly kids' thing, but Spider-Verse tried to tackle stories and themes kids don't care about
There's also the fact international audiences don't care much for American black people as protagonists, they're like one tenth of the American population too so I don't see why Americans would care so much either, no one would see a movie starring e.g. a Native American and their themes and no one would be surprised by it underperforming (inb4 someone tries to use Black Panther as a counter argument, it was a movie about Africa and Africans, and part of the MCU which is basically a subscription at this point, not to mention the last film before Infinity War)
Angel Butler
>375 mill is bad
Hudson Adams
>talking about how little coverage it got internationally compared to domestic
>reee stop saying it did bad
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, huh?
Carter Robinson
James Phillips
Angel Bennett
nigger spider-man
Ian Cook
Jace Robinson
Jason Cruz
No it didn't, people were worried up until it released, it could've gone either way from the marketing and all the reference material we had for the stories being adapted was absolute shit, not to mention it was being handled by "Aunt May movie" Sony and the studio responsible for the fucking Emoji movie
Animation was also widely criticized as choppy and heavy on chromatic aberration, the later praise for it was pretty much acquired taste from seeing the whole thing
Dylan Cook
Andrew Parker
Damn, it just occurred to me that both of the FFH suits got added to the game instead of Spider-Cop.
Charles Thompson
Julian Collins
Who would win a tickle fight between Gwen and Peni?
William Perry
James Bailey
Don't you know? If a movie doesn't do Marvel numbers then it's shit. This board is brain damaged
Hudson Brown
375m is still decent for a cape movie. I mean look at DC. Their animated movie only made 175m
Ryder Moore
I want this movie of Spiderverse Peni meeting and working with comic Peni.
Alexander Perez
same reason why Aladdin 2019 made more money than 1992 Aladdin, people thought live action = more mature and cooler
Camden Bell
>animation was also widely criticized
you mean widely criticized by Yea Forumsntrarians?
Hudson Torres
No Peni or Gwen fan service.
Ryan Perez
I thought movie and comic Peni were supposed to be from the same timeline, and movie Peni was just younger and had yet to reach her mandatory trauma quota as an eva pilot?
Nathaniel Cruz
No? What kinda retarded headcanon is this?
Asher Miller
When they flashed the timeline numbers in the ending, somebody told me the two Penis were given the same timeline designation. You cunt.
Carter Morgan
>HURR I DONT KNOW SHIT BUT WILL COMMENT ANYWAY
Fuck off, casual
Juan Perez
>how dare someone reply to my post
What, am I supposed to be double-check everything that gets mentioned to me, or am I supposed to have a photographic memory of everything comic book? How about you take the dicks out of your ass and you'll get less butthurt over every comment on the internet.
Kevin Rivera
I think that was just an Easter egg with the designations of the universes that their comic counterparts were from (Earth-616 for Peter, Earth-1610 for Miles, Earth-65 for Gwen and so on).
Liam Young
Nobody likes Miles Morales. Nobody. Nobody has ever liked Miles and nobody ever will.
Carter Nguyen
Then why do people buy his books
Evan Rogers
Fuck off back to R3ddit you stupid niggerfaggot poltard
Cooper James
Now me too
Kevin Wood
Animated is seen as children stuff, so most of the casuals ignored it.
Ryan Morris
Nah, he's alright, mediocre and need the help of other character to be interesting but at leas he's not just black peter-parker, what he really needs is a good villain for him only
Jose Garcia
Prowler?
Leo Taylor
If it ain't Based Disney no one gives a shit
Eli Johnson
if you adjust boxoffice to inflation as well then Spider-Verse performed even worse
Colton Evans
>Nobody likes Miles Morales. Nobody. Nobody has ever liked Miles and nobody ever will.
This.
He is simply a bad idea for a character.
Luis Ortiz
>Why did spiderverse perform so badly?
>It actually didn't
>OMG shut up retard nobody said it did!
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, huh?
Robert Reed
Everyone who has money is racist for good reason
Thomas Gray
>let's kill of and then replace the hero of the story to underline how he is nothing special
worse premise for a spider-man movie ever. Should have been an animated musical about Gwen falling in love with Peter on Christmas
Jason Reed
>to underline how he is nothing special
That's like saying Uncle Ben was nothing special. Or that Barry was nothing special to Wally.
Nathan Gomez
Jaxson Cooper
Man you are retarded. Uncle Ben was never replaced. Meanwhile Peter Parker dying is no biggy since some black guy or some blond chick can always just take over for him
Dylan Garcia
too many retards in Yea Forums tonight or whe really have a problem of calling other retards
Asher Harris
Camden Cook
I think he means a brand new villain rather than one that's based on one of Peter's villains. There are some in his current run, but I stopped reading after the first arc so I don't know if they're any good.
Jeremiah Lewis
Inflation only counts when Yea Forums says it does otherwise shut up you normal person with friends and a social life
David Bailey
Rage. Miles had just lost him his son again. He wanted this to last.
Jason Turner
Spider-verse grossed more than Incredibles 2 / Ralph 2 in China.
Ian Garcia
Capeshit audience. They are like maggots and cockroaches. You can observe their behavior, but you can never understand it.
Jordan Anderson
Yes, it is objectively doing badly.
Lucas Davis
Shazam is mediocre as fuck.
Justin Jones
It's a cartoon not explicitly aimed at children.
Kayden Powell
>nobody liked miles morales when bendis was writing him*
ftfy
Ian Gonzalez
>No one cares about Miles especially countries that aren't Burgerland
>Disney films are the the only movies making good money right now
>Despite good word of mouth the movie was completely forgotten after a few weeks
>It's an animated movie and therefore has more difficulty finding a more adult audience
>The animation itself was a huge turn-off for people
>Spiderversefags are insufferable
It isn't that hard to guess why Spiderverse didn't explode in the box office department.
Mason Turner
It didn't. It made back 4x it's budget. It's a good thing box office earnings aren't an indication on the quality of the film. Have a Gwen for your bait thread.
Joseph Brown
Peni will forever be known as the anime loli with stinky feet.
Carson Howard
>No one accepts the fact that bendis will always get credit for him reflgardless of what racist writes him
FTFY
Daniel Powell
Even with a added theater count after winning the Oscar, didn’t make that huge money
Jack Nelson
Don’t get offended by the numbers
Adrian James
You know they don’t retain everything, right?
Nolan Thomas
The movie made 4x its budget. It's not a flop. If you try hard enough I'm sure you can find some arbitrary things to make it so that the movie would need to make a billion dollars to be considered successful to you.
Gabriel Williams
You’re getting mad, aren’t ya? If we discount marketing, overhead, taxes, distribution fees, theater cost, it made some money , but not a mega hit like Minions
Easton Wilson
Hudson Ortiz
If you're factoring all of that in, then you should also factor in the 115 million they received for promotion with Nike and a bunch of other companies.
Matthew Scott
Stupid and racist.
Daniel Nguyen
The overall inflation index is very favorable to movie ticket prices of the past. There would never be any new #1s, and that's not very good salesmanship.
Adrian Rivera
Weird art style
Easton James
Generally a movie has to make back twice its budget to break even. There's no way four times its budget wasn't enough.