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s Superman is still the best Superman ever. Not too dark, not too much of a pussy and DC needs to rediscover him asap
>>TDKR is the worst Batman story ever. It turned Batman into an insufferable edgelord and ruined his relationship with Superman to this day. Batman was never meant to be the dark cloud of misery we got today
2/5 is a bad score, but not the worst I've ever seen. Good job user.
It was an entirely decent movie and there's so little reason to think otherwise that it amazes me just how much people shit on it, but will bend over backwards to defend the shitty Holland movies

They aren't? I have seen a few.

the one today was deleted
I think they only exist until the lazy POS janny finds them

Ratatouille is shit. People only remember it because of Anton Ego's speech. 4 good minutes out of a 2 hour-long movie. Good job, Pixar.

>judging a story by the consequences it had on other stories instead of its own quality
>judging a piece of audiovisual media from story alone
It's not just that you have wrong opinions, it's that you hold them for the wrong reasons.

There are mediocre episodes of Steven Universe, but on the whole it's better than the sum of its parts and much better written than people give it credit for. The problem is most of this is done through subtext, callbacks, foreshadowing and character development and dynamics so it's not immediately obvious. Having more than 11 minutes would've helped the pacing immensely.

i don't like calvin and hobbes

Tom King isnt that bad

John's Aquaman was okayish. Definitely overrated.

We need a new word for what passes for 'waifu' on this board or stronger propaganda against polygamy

Didn't the cunt just win an Eisner? It seems other people also love batcatbatcatbatcatbat

Oh shut the fuck up, waifu faggotry doesn't deserve to be protected.

only bad comics win eisners

Not my goal. If anything this would render it less protected since it would peel back the veneer

Spider-verse was a good 7-8/10 movie that was only praised as a masterpiece because people were wowed by its unique visual style.

I unironically don't like Rick Remender's indie works. To me, they mostly just follow a formula that goes like:
>have messed up character
>put character in this setting
>have character shoot up shit
>profit

You aren't the only one who thinks this, there are a lot of us out there who think Raimi's work, while still good, is highly overrated. We're too afraid to say anything because you basically get shamed on this site for thinking that.

>Suicide Squad is a 7/10 movie
that's not a valid opinion

Fuck Disney. Fuck them and everything they do.

10's have been the death of the super hero comics.
They only persist due to a very small yet loyal base of fans who will buy literally anything ever and the need to farm characters from equally as shitty IPs for other mediums who, for some reason, feel the need to change several elements from the shoddy original anyway.

We had glimpses of hope for the genre with "Multiversity" but Morrison failed to touch the heart of other authors, who were all new to the medium and sucked at their own job. The ride ends here.

At this point that's such a normalized opinion that there are facebook groups dedicated to it. I miss when hating Disney was an unpopular opinion.

Tiffany Haddish is a good VA

None of the MCU/DCEU movies are good movies. Same goes for any comic book live-action series.
Fuck cartoons.
The following writers should not be considered greats:
Busiek
Ostrander
Vaughan
Claremont
The following writers have zero good books:
Bendis
King
Nick Spencer
Bryan Lee O'Malley
Brandon Graham
Top rated comics like Animal Man, The Incal and Duncan the Wonderdog are thoroughly mediocre.

Walt Simonson’s work isn’t that great. His FF is especially un engaging

I agree with all that.
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>Bendis has zero good books
House of M send hello.

His art is great tho

Sexualized female characters are detrimental to any medium because of the degeneracy that they bring. Anytime a comic introduces slutty waifu bait, the fans instantly stop caring about quality and will lap up whatever diarhhea the comic or cartoon puts out, as long as they can see their waifu more. The waifufag does not understand words like "quality".

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That's not really on the sexualized characters as much as it is on the sex-starved audience.

Comics (Mainly DC/Marvel) need to stop changing artist every couple of months, god fucking dammit this shit pisses me off.

That's not opinion, that's fact.

DC>Marvel

>employing a more culturally diverse group of creators is theoretically good and helps ensure the long-term creative and commercial health of the industry
>the 90s were a creatively/artistically rich time for comics
>hollywood has made comics worse and it's been that way for at least 15 years
>bendis was good
>sam raimi's spider-man 3 was good

>TDKR is actually the best batman story because it's like opera in that each part the threat, and subsequently the story, escalates into increasing levels of unbelievable grandiosity until it's full on superhero bullshit by issue 4. In this it showcases 4 different ways of telling a batman story under a cohesive banner
there's a contrarian opinion for you/

Both of these and Amazing Spider-man as a character was the most accurate he ever got. His movements were amazing.

>bendis was good
very based

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same

>Superman Returns was actually a better Superman film (overall) than Man of Steel.

i don’t care about amphibia

Opinions are automatically disregarded. I agree Holland sucks.

Worrying excessively about other people’s sexuality is creepy. Stop doing it.

Go back to plebbit, and stop trying too hard.

Superman Returns is literally the best Superman movie to date. Live-action or animated

superheros comics and movies are for retarded kids and nu-males and they suck.

This but unironically

Raimi's Spider-Man movies suck and they're only defended by retarded millennials that think aknowledging that some movies they watched when they were children aged poorly will destroy their childhood.

Yea Forums is more obsessed with confirming to themselves that comics are shit than actually putting any effort in to enjoying comics.

If every single complaint they had about the comic industry was addressed and fixed tomorrow, they'd still find ways to bitch about how everything is still shit and how the industry is in a decline, because it's easier to assume the worst than hope for the best.

>the show that shall not be named had better songs than Steven Universe
>Dexter's Lab was never good
>Hulk is much more than a character that just smashes stuff and talks weird
>captain america didn't need the super soldier serum, you don't nee superpowers to throw a shield

comics were good when animation didn't exist

So never? Yeah, that sounds about right

SU's songs are pretty simply written for the most part and rely on repetetion to acheive a mantra effect, especially stuff like Here Comes a Thought. They're consistently good but I haven't listened to you-know-who's OST so you may be right. Tangled's is pretty strong too.

The only really unpopular opinion here is the one about Spider-Verse

Now this is an unpopular opinion wew lad

Not entirely wrong but unpopular for sure

Even though I don't care for Family Guy even I can admit it's at least had some episodes that gave me consistent laughs throughout watching them which is more than I can say for The Critic which, at best, got a soft chuckle moment from me every odd episode or so but, only moments.

Duckman is better than both of them.

Captain America is just the male version of the Disney princess fantasy.

The modern day politics in comics is no different to Stan Lee's soap box and writers injecting politics into comics in the 1960s and beyond. Marvel comics was always liberal.

Toy Story is for children. If you're an adult an enjoy watching the Toy Story movies you're either deep in nostalgia or just retarded

MCU is the best thing to happen to cape characters since early 90s cartoons.

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Batman is an incredibly retarded character
>I became Batman because a criminal murdered my parents and I fucking HATE criminals, but still I won't kill the mass-murdering Joker or any other criminal or that matter because reasons
I always felt like The Punisher is the non-retarded Batman.

This is a very popular (and accurate) opinion. Disney made superheroes greater than they ever were.

I think some cartoons are OK.

Pfft, get a load of this guy over here

Comic creators and fans complaining about dark and edgy comics are much more cringey and annoying than the dark and edgy comics themselves.

This absolute unit is the best thing to ever happen to Spider-Man since fucking Gwen Stacy's death

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I lived in 1960 while having the same temperament and way of thinking, I'd be considered a liberal too.

Now what they call liberalism is some weird cultish behaviour producing something creatively stiffled because they feel need to adhere to dogmas. They be Christian moms 20 years ago.

Superman and Captain America are the biggest Mary Sues in comics. Always being in the right and not being allowed to make mistakes do not make engaging characters.

By doing the same shit over and over again and creating woman, nigger, spic, korean, kid versions of old superheros like if they were Deviantart OC's.

Indeed,

Gurihu art is cute but unimpressive. Yea Forums just likes it because a lot of people here are recovering weebs.

True, but creating clever allegories for racism and homophobia like the X-Men is very different from the heavy-handed approach to social issues in contemporary comics like pic related

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Superman was pretty much doomed once Byrne came on board. Guy pretty much sucked the soul out of the franchise.

>Lack of captions, omniscient narration, symbolic splash pages and thought balloons ruined the unique storytelling potential of comics

I miss all this stuff too. I think sometimes people could get overly wordy with thought balloons or captions/narration, but overall, I liked it better than when they stopped doing it all together. I especially miss thought bubbles.
This.

The batfamily is at its best when it's large as shit.

I like Wonder Woman using a sword and shield. She's ready to fight, not looking for one. She's still the diplomat, defender of love, and seeker of truth to me. Having those in her arsenal with the lasso doesn't make her a Kratos type

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>Thanos and Darkseid are the two only villains that are both powerful and interesting enough to build a cinematic univese around them.
And Lex Luthor

Time has a way of distilling the good. Just the other day I read Savage Tales which had a story penned by Stan Lee called Fury of the Femizons (about a female run society) and another story called Black Brother by Dennis O'Neil.

In Black Brother the black governor of a province in an African country is framed by the government (they take photos of a white woman coming on to him). It was a poor heavy handed attempt to be "woke" or back then, radical and "right-on".

Clumsy writing around politics has ALWAYS existed. People have always been accidently heavy handed.

Most of the "cultish" behaviour is just poor attempts at writing. This has always existed. Using current affairs to try and inject life in an otherwise contrived story.

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Neither do I

Grant Morrison: "Comics are way too dark and edgy nowadays, they need to go back to the Silver Age where they had the perfect tone."

Also Grant Morrison: "You know what's some great story ideas, let's remove any sort of complexity to Magneto and make him dark and edgy!! Also, Damien will be conceived by Talia date raping Bruce, not contradictory at all!!"

The Yea Forums trannies are a real disgusting part of this board and should be killed on the streets should they identify themselves.

99.9% of the material discussed on this board is for retarded kids and manchildren, user.

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Morrison never said that retard. Batman and Magneto are natural edgelords anyways so dark tones isnt out of place

Animation started in 1914, I doubt you've read anything that predates it.

This show had a lot of flaws, but the hateboner people have for it is embarrassing.

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As opposed to Pixar's other movies?

whatever dude, comics are shit, a big waste of time and money.

Superman has better rogues than Batman and Lex shits on them all just by himself

I like Peter having a real friend early on other than that asswipe Harry, but I would bet money Ned isn't going to stay his friend (or alive) too long.

I love when people shitposting on Yea Forums pretend they have a notion of what is a good way to spend your time.

It's pretty overrated. I think I have a collection of it somewhere, and I haven't been inspired to dig it out and give it a re-read.

Pretty much. Hastings' writing is what made Gwenpool decent.

Eh, from what I read of it the other characters in that book weren't really praising Mockingbird for her stupid grandstanding.

I think the writers who mindlessly churn out those dark and edgy stories just to be contrarians are much worse.

I think people dislike it mostly because it's usually associated by writers to her behaving like super serious Xena.

"Nuanced" Magneto would be fine if it was actually nuanced instead of him inexplicably changing personality (and sides) to suit the story.

>The best X-Men era is the 2000s
>Bendis and King have made good stories
>The first 2 Fantastic Four movies weren't bad
>Recent superhero "deconstructions" are just edge for the sake of edge, no substance
>Most of the comics from the 60s weren't that good in retrospect, expect for Spider-Man which still holds up
>The MCU is actually good, its just bad because its popular
>Iron Man is good in everything except his own books, which stink

Loud House fanbase did literally nothing wrong and this board has never had a leg to stand on against them if drawing lewds of underage girls is your argument.

Tom King

>the 90s were a creatively/artistically rich time for comics
Agreed.
>>bendis was good
I like his old crime comics.
>sam raimi's spider-man 3 was good

It was the weakest of the three, but I still enjoyed it.

>defending Xorn being an actually different character
Magneto was literally drugged out and insane, his actions make sense in that context

The X-Men are the worst offenders of not letting their characters grow or change. Why writers constantly create new classes for the X-Men is beyond me since other writers will just want to use the Claremont team, Jubilee, Laura, and Quentin Quire for some fucking reason. Also, call the X-Men books what they are, misery porn.

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S3 is at the very least entertaining.

>in the hands of good writers

Frank was never even a good artist, much less a good writer

I was thinking of Garth Ennis when I wrote that, but the point still stands.

Nearly all of Cereal Lord magnum opus are over-rated shit, do better.

shut up Boco

>I liked the diversity in the 2000s and hate how the 10s destroyed, made it annoying!

You're right about the F4 movies, Corman and Story's versions both had some really good understanding of the character dynamics in their own ways. I'm honestly worried about the MCU version missing that because of meme internet opinions that the Story movies in particular are shit on all aspects. Shit like
>lmao why is Sue being such a selfish bitch, doesn't she get that a world ending threat is more important than her wedding
That's who Sue is.

On the topic of the thread: the Incredibles isn't like the F4 in any meaningful way.

People don't like Wonder Woman with a sword and shield? I guess I never paid attention there. But I agree, I like it too.

Morrison quite literally dragged an unpublished Silver Age spy character and made him into a deranged fascist monster to be used as a villain in Doom Patrol, then a few issues later did a 'parody' of Silver Age Marvel (yes, Mavel not DC) which, other than shout-outs to ''This Man this Monster" from FF#51 left me wondering if he'd actually read any Silver Age comics.

He reminds me of those weird DeviantArt drawings of what cartoons would look like in another era but get actual styles and details totally wrong.

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No Homestuck act gets a mark higher than 7/10, and if anything that one goes to the Intermission for being the most coherent arc from the whole comic.

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That’s an unpopular opinion?

>FFH is the best SM movie
>BvS is alright in an insane kind of way
>Everything Garth Ennis touches completely eats. The Boys tv show will be garbage.
>The Incredibles 1 has aged like sour cream and looks worse than animated movies that came before it.
>Pixar is incredibly overrated and their films range from mediocre to really bad
>Ed Edd and Eddy is a terrible show with grating voice acting and a vomit-inducing art
style
>The only redeeming qualities of the Fantastic Four are The Thing and Doom.
>Into the Spiderverse is really overrated and not that great. The fight scenes, older Peter, and Gwen are good, everything else kinda sucks.
>Outside of the main Justice League characters and their respective books, DC isn't worth reading

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It's unpopular to say that they're the worst example of not letting their characters pass the torch and grow. You always hear complaints about Hal and Barry before you hear complaints about the X-Men.

Dark Crystal is only 50 good shit. The good guys look horrible. Legend was cool looking-er.

Batman shouldn't be on the justice league . At the most help fund it

Gwen in itsv is barely a character, liking her more than Miles who is the only one to get proper development is just stupid.

That’s a popular opinion.

Civil War and Age of Ultron belong in F tier, change that immediately

Would be fine as mission control or basically anything other than field work. People who work for sports teams aren't all athletes.
JLA is just a collection of popular characters though, it's really not about whether a member's presence is justifiable in universe.

I'm gonna say Into the Spider-Verse is shit. That trippy final battle against Kingpin is seizure-inducing and the "kinda 3D-kinda 2D" animation isn't pretty nor clever. The character designs and loser boomer Peter are really the only reedeming qualities of the movie.

Heart-attack?

It triggers the autism of a few characterfags on here. They assume just because she has them she's instantly prepared to cut someone down first sign of resistance, which is inaccurate

No they don't. Age of Ultron is actually one of the best MCU films. All the shit it gets is undeserved

Lol

If you hated AoU because of Ultron, then you don't know jack shit about the character. AoU is weak, but due to script reasons and not the title villain

>the infusion of politics is not inherently detrimental to a story, even if the author is quite clearly biased towards one side. If the story is written well, and the political message is cleverly and organically woven into the narrative, there's no valid criticism to be made of the mere presence of politics, even if you disagree with the message itself
>emo Peter is Spider Man 3 wasn't that bad and actually made sense, given it was how geeky dork Peter Parker thought a cool guy would behave
>Captain America The First Avenger was the best Cap movie
>the "Batman is crazy" angle is overplayed and nonsensical, in a world where basically every city has a superhero with a tragic backstory, a silly costume and a weird personality, what exactly makes Batman the crazy one?
>Superman should be ready and willing to kill especially dangerous villains, such as ones capable of planetary or even universal destruction

Wreck it Ralph was never good
The incredibles 1 was not that good.
Tangled (the movie) was boring

Disney and Marvel movies are for braindead kids and stunted manchildren

>ATLA is the most overrated western animated series in the last 2 decades.
>Toonami shit is NOT Yea Forums
>Yea Forums adaptations of Yea Forums shit ARE Yea Forums shit

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I believe that the political beliefs or the past experiences of the showrunner shouldn't be used to demonize the show in question. If something is bad, it's bad on its own merits. Shitty people can make not shitty things.

don't hate me for speaking the truth brah

lel. I'd say either he becomes Hobgoblin or he gets fridged at some point.

I think a lot of it has to do with people expecting an event-style movie and Whedon delivering a "filler" normal-issue-style movie. It certainly did a lot for character dynamics.

Gir is dangerously unfunny and can drag the show he's in down

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Yea Forums is full of tumblr users.

On your first point, I agree but people are retarded enough to judge a story based almost solely on whether they agree with the message it delivers.

>unpopular opinion

That's not an opinion.

I hated the movie because it was terrible. I know next to nothing about comic Ultron and honestly I am indifferent to movie Ultron
I didn’t think he was the problem of the movie

>which is inaccurate
It isn't.

That's a good thing.
I'd rather have Yea Forums become Yea Forumsmblr than become another /pol/ colony like Yea Forums

t. tumblr
Fuck off

That's fair. I just get tired of people saying Ultron was the problem when he was one of the few good things about the film
It is

tumblrfags have been on Yea Forums longer than you, user

It isn't. Pretty much every arc there's a moment where she'll pull the sword ready to kill someone to justify the sword existence.

Is that your unpopular opinion? Because I really don’t agree with it

I suppose a cartoon based board will always attract tumblr turds

>What is intimidation tactics

There hasn't been a good puppet show since 1989.

Lots of people use tumblr. Shit, I have one just to collect art from shows I like. It's a meaningless generalization.

Now you're using weak ass excuses. Is that who Wonder Woman is for you? Someone that scare people into cooperation? She's not Batman, dude.

I don't get the big deal either. I used it to do the same thing. Collect SFW and NSFW art of shows I like.

No shit lots of people use it. Why are they coming here to turn this place into trash

To be honest I don't know what the fuck is miserable in TDKR Batman. Other writers completely misunderstood what it was about. He was actually happy being Batman, that was the whole fucking point of it. Bruce was nothing but an hollow broken shell without it. He feels complete, fulfilled and young again once he becomes Batman again.

because there's no restriction based on what sites you visit. there are tons of people on this site who use websites that Yea Forums users hate generally.

Unless you're talking movies, this is not unpopular as about half of comic fans agree with you.

Waifushit is cancer. Just because a comic or a cartoon has a cute girl or two doesn't automatically make it good. Just because you horny cumbrains make 500+ post threads that hit image limit spamming the same old tired barely SFW images because you fucks are too lazy to go /aco/ to masturbate doesn't mean that shit's popular.

My only real problem is that hime being a public member sort of kills the "urban legend" image

Go back to Yea Forums then elitist.

It's called strategy, you dumbass. She's a diplomat, and part of diplomacy is putting on a tough face. Wonder Woman will find every excuse to solve a problem peacefully, but she won't appear weak either. Triggered autists like yourself piss me off because you event shit to get mad over. There are better things to criticize Wonder Woman's mediocre runs than your made up bullshit.

>Toy Story is for children
True
> If you're an adult an enjoy watching the Toy Story movies you're either deep in nostalgia or just retarded
Somehow both subjective AND false.

Neither of them are remotely infallible. If you find their positions as a moral compass irritating that's fine, but don't act like neither of them have ever fucked up.

>And Lex Luthor
THIS MAN IS CORRECT

He's easily the best American cape writer, whatever that's worth.

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Yeah it's almost like tumblr is a major fanart host or something.

Tough face isn't shoving her sword to someone's face while telling them to not cross her with an angry face that exudes murderous intent. Fuck off.

>On the topic of the thread: the Incredibles isn't like the F4 in any meaningful way.

No but it's exactly like the F4 in all of the very intentional superficial ways.

Les Guignols de l'Info until about 2006. Granted, that's only worth watching if you're a frog.

Miss me with that sarcasm. Most of their art sucks

I'm a huge homestuck fan and I think that's fair. Though the attitude around here that the whole story sucks because Hussie stopped caring near the end is false.

The problem is that they totally botched Ultron. Quicksilver and Witch were cool though.

Not sure what people see in liking this"Chat" girl being Spiderman's GF. I thought this relationship was forced as fuck.

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That's a good point but his myth status never lasts even without the JLA.

>murderous intent
Fucko if Diana wanted to, she could kill A LOT of people, and yet doesn't. Do you know what a warrior is? Someone who knows when to stay their hand. Go be pissy about it elsewhere. She was propaganda for World War 2 for fuck sake you moron

Somewhat similar. People can like a show or comic beyond just waifus. Whenever something is well liked, you get quite a few saying the only reason its popular is because of the female characters

Amazing Spider-Man is better than the first Raimi Spider-Man. Not as good as the second by any means, but better than the first.

>TDK is one of the worst things to happen to comic book movies and did to the DCEU exactly what TDKR did to comics decades earlier
>Ra's Al Ghul was ruined by Batman Begins and I lament the fact that we'll never have a Neal Adams-era swashbuckling adventure starring Batman in live action any time in the near future

Your view of the character is completely off.
>Do you know what a warrior is?
Miss me with that shit.
You want her to be some sort of Batman, someone who's constantly scaring people into doing what she wants. That's simple not Wonder Woman. Go read Batman if you want some of that shit.

Any politic relate thread on Yea Forums should be deleted on sight.

DC needs to chill out with the Batman edge. I feel like 'those' hardcore Batman fans expect it too much now, so maybe DC is scared to dial it back. Seriously, its possible to have him remain cool, badass, and scary, while also giving the character some fucking fun in his movie.

The first two Tim Burton movies are by far the best Batman movies, at least when it comes to representing the character in the best way film has achieved.

The topic is "unpopular opinions" user.

>You want her to be some sort of Batman
No, I don't, you strawmanning autist. Wonder Woman is a diplomat, a humanitarian, defender of peace and love. But you know what else? She's still a warrior, and sometimes needs to be one. If you want peace, you must prepare for war.

You REEEEE in EVERY goddamn Wonder Woman thread it's annoying as shit.

Gargoyles wasn't that good. If Disney let Weisman have his way and get as many episodes and spinoffs as he liked, it would have turned into a trainwreck sooner or later.

JMS Spider-man isn't good, you're just nostalgic for when you were a kid

True but that's hardly a good thing.

Was already a train wreck when they started to do that boat shit

I only agree about QS.

>the 80s was the best decade of DC Comics
>even though Superman sucks right now, Action Comics is damn good
>there's got to be a way to have crossover events actually be fun and exciting, even though I don't know what it is
>Grant Morrison and Alan Moore would probably get along if they hadn't gotten off on the wrong foot

Wait do people actually like JMS Spider-Man? I remember reading the animal totem shit and hating it.

Tumblr makes better oc reaction images than Yea Forums. Yea Forums has become lazy.

Stop with this warrior bullshit. You keep using to justify having Wonder Woman carrying a sword everywhere she goes and constantly threatening to kill people, as if she was a generic epic fantasy barbarian. This when she outright doesn't kill people with inventive ways. You simple doesn't understand Wonder Woman.

On that last one, I doubt it. I like Morrison's writing but he's a transparent bullshit artist whereas Moore fancies himself an enlightenend truth-teller. It's kind of like thinking a rave partying ecstasy enthusiast would get along with a stoner because they both do drugs.

>as if she was a generic epic fantasy barbarian.
Again with the strawman. How about actually reading what I fucking said? YOU don't seem to understand Wonder Woman

Yes, i read it. You say talk about her being a diplomat and a humanitarian, but you keep defending the idea of her carrying a sword and shield as her main weapons of choice, and justifying the instances where she threaten others with murder with her sword. It just doesn't make any sense. Specially because the current Wonder Woman isn't even a diplomat. So drop the bullshit. She's a soldier. Who's told what to do and is paid for what she does.

Thought bubbles are great. What I really hate is the use of first person past tense narrations instead of actual captions in the caption boxes. It is super unimmersive.

>as her main weapons of choice
Again, wrong. I prefer the lasso. I just don't see anything wrong with Diana having a sword and shield too.
>Who's told what to do and is paid for what she does.
What the fuck are you even talking about?

Yeah, seeing the thousandth variation of wojack or Pepe gets tiring. Get some new material, guys

She's an agent of ARGUS right now, and she answers to the hard-assed and black Etta Candy. There's no Embassy. She's completely cut off from her amazon sisters. And the sword and shield are go-to-weapons nowadays. Every time there's trouble is the first things she puts her hands on, ready to drop a motherfucker down. It sucks. Fuck, sometimes she will even used a combination of the lasso and sword to slash far away enemies. It's like she became Kratos.

To throw as well as Cap you really do.

AT was a mistake

Yeah, the main plot was always weak to me but the character development that was happening for both Spidey and his cast is what drew me to his work. Right when he double down on the totem stuff with the Other story is when I checked out of Spider-man

Post Miller Batman requires greater suspension of disbelief than Superman and his memetic status becoming the new core of the character is to his detriment.

I think Cow Tools was pretty funny
I think Sneed was a fine Simpsons Joke

Burton's movies depict Batman as a psycho who sticks dynamite down people's pants and smiles while he watches them explode. I don't understand how the "not muh" argument isn't used on the Burton movies.

Cranky, you say that Wonder Woman and Superman can't be friends because Diana is too good of a person to be friends with Clark. Just admit you don't understand Wonder Woman.

Her Amazon sisters are paranoid isolationists who can barely contain their sexism.

Up is the best disney/pixar movie. People love the very beginning and disregard the rest. The best scenes of the movie are when Carl lets go of the past and the ending scene.
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>i am deeply disgusted and enraged at the current state of the world, media, and especially cartoons, and i complain and bully people who like cartoons i hate here as a copping mechanism and a way to vent so i dont hang myself from all the internalized sad and rage.
>disney is a company that never appealed to me bar a few movies and i think most of their output is cheap fluff for little girls
>john k is based and chris savino is a victim of an anti male sentiment based witch hunt

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Tomboys and goth girls are mostly boring characters. They aren't even hot

>Into the Spider-Verse is just an incredibly average coming-of-age story and didn't deserve all the praise it still gets, let alone an Oscar
>Suicide Squad is a 7/10 movie
Jesus Christ, how can someone have taste this shit?

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disney's aladdin (both 1992 and 2019) sucks. every character in the film is either a douche or a dumbass. also doesn't help that i have a bad history with the film

Hes exactly right though, ITSV is overrated shit and was garbage because its starred bendis donut steel.

>also doesn't help that i have a bad history with the film
Explain your bad history with alladin

Sounds like you're just looking for reasons to dislike it because of some prejudice you have.
Maybe try and be less of a trifling bitch

Suicide Squad is 5/10

>Alan Moore's Swamp Thing run was better written, yes, but had less soul than the original. Turning a story of a man turned into a plant struggling to regain his humanity and searching for acceptance into a story about a plant who learns he isn't human and enjoys not being human because humans suck
It really all hinges on how those concepts are handled. Sure, Len Wein Swamp Thing has its appeal but there's a reason why most people prefer the Moore run. Saga of Swamp Thing is just more timeless and has a level of writing that doesn't really compare.

I hate Miles with a passion but Spider-Verse actually made me feel something for the character because they did a much better job at tying him the character and giving him more traits to differentiate Miles from Peter.

>Sounds like you're just looking for reasons to dislike it because of some prejudice you have.
>Maybe try and be less of a trifling bitch
I dont give a single fuck about miles, gwen is just a BLACKED.com whore, peter was okay but too much of a loser that it almost felt like it was apart of their agenda, and fuck not using spider pig, peni parker, and spider noir more when they were the most interesting characters in that overrated film.

What are more Interesting girls?

Are you honestly going to tell me that Suicide Squad is on the same level as Spider-Verse? Because from a visual standpoint alone Spider-Verse blows it out of the water.

I seriously enjoy The Iron Man Trilogy
Age of Ultron is shit
Miles and Gwen are overrated
Evolution Kitty Pryde is the best Marvel Girl
I hate the MCU Iron Spider suit
Shang-Chi will probably financially bomb but still be good
Ted Kord is the best Beetle
Kingdom Come is too short.

we are actively destroying ourselves by consuming inconsequential media and are willing participants in the downfall of our species. i hope against hope that there is a hell, and that every last one of us rots there in eternal misery.

How are they interesting characters? They're window dressing.

The silver age was great and there was some real unbridled creativity going on then.

Grant Morrison is the best superhero writer.

Watchmen is fine on a technical/scripting level but the story is meh.

Because they were more interesting and likable then the three main cast. I wanted to see alot more of them in the film and it ended up just being a shitty miles shilling movie instead. Fuck ITSV

Im of the opposite opinion where i feel rage at people not caring enough about the quality of the media they consume and being apart of the issue y mindlessly consuming product and not having enough of a spine/brain to notice trash and berate it in an effort to try and improve movies/cartoon/etc, and instead they get offended when someone calls out these movies because it also directly insults them for being stupid enough to enjoy low quality garbage like the MCU or rick and morty and the like.

>Kingdom Come is too short
Ah yes you want to see more of lazy Superman?

Absolutely based.

>Legion is the only good superhero show because it's not a superhero show
>Capeshit hasn't been consistently good since the 80s
>The DCU is an irredeemable dumpster fire and the MCU is mostly mediocre

doy

shortest version ever, the seduction scene made me scared of the movie and anything related to it

>Everything Garth Ennis touches completely eats.
Puisher MAX and Hitman are some of the best superhero comics in existence, the fuck are you on about?

>The DCU is an irredeemable dumpster fire and the MCU is mostly mediocre

This. The mcu has the flat boring cinematography of a soap opera and the stupid drama of a soap opera.

I hate teen drama and to this day have never watched young justice or teen titans, miss me with that MTV bullshit
>the seduction scene made me scared of the movie and anything related to it
Why?

Fucking thank you. I'm fine with waifu threads every now and again but a handful of thirsty Yea Forums users don't know what moderation is.

Interesting how?

Because one was a cartoon pig, one was Nicholas cage, and the other was an anime loli, that to me is mor interesting then generic inner city black or coal burner.

Superhero/comic book movies and TV shows are dumb and dumb down the medium of comic books. The only good comic book show is doom patrol, but if i want to get a doom patrol fix, I'd rather read the comics than watch the show.

if you're unwilling to allow yourself to relax, if you see it as a luxury to be earned, then you may as well not exist at all

nobody is here to answer to you or your sense of morality: that's not to say that we're not heading to extinction as a species, but if we are you're not going to change that by getting upset and demanding people stop enjoying themselves and be more like you

frankly, you should learn to relax without feeling guilty about it - and remember, a little over a hundred years ago people were convinced and it was the scientific consensus that world populations would soon increase well beyond the ability of the planet to produce enough food to sustain us, and that mass starvation would soon follow

this helped set the agenda of many governments and political movements of the last century but is largely unremarked today - because even though the population is now four times what it was then, we've learned how to produce food at a rate that permits more people than ever to at the bare minimum subsist

is it a perfect system with zero waste? no

are whole continents riven by warfare over scarce food resources? not really, no

the truth is even when things seem bad, user, people are working actively to try and make them better: and now that there are an inconceivable number of people alive, there are more of them than ever working to fix things

will it be perfect and come just in the nick of time? probably not

is it all doom and gloom from here on out? no

relax, eat something you like, call someone you miss, talk about something that isn't bothering you but you just haven't talked about in a while

feel better user, you can do it

never liked seeing her fuck the tiger

Maximus copus

Based. Fuck YJ. Teen Titans is more comedy so the teen drama isnt really prevalent.

>It's like she became Kratos.
You keep saying that when it's not true. You're fucking odd

>Based. Fuck YJ. Teen Titans is more comedy so the teen drama isnt really prevalent.
Okay, i might check it out since ive been jerking off to raven and starfire for close to ten years now anyways. Young justice just looks boring to me, besides i always hated teenagers and preferred older characters in shows and film.

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The problem is neither tumblr or reddit. It's twitter and it's funny how no one realizes that.

Not just waifufags, fetishfags too. Can't post The Jungle Book without somebody jerking themselves off over Mowgli getting hypnotized. Can hardly talk about Swat Kats without someone showing up to cum all over Callie Briggs, and nothing more. Can't make a thread about spooky shit before or during October without some monster girl fag showing up to the function, every single year. I don't even need to bring up the Teenage Robot threads, do I?
This isn't exclusive to Yea Forums by a fucking longshot, good luck having threads on vidya with furry characters on Yea Forums, but Yea Forums being way slower makes it far more noticeable. And in a time where social media is turning cartoon talks into shitflinging discourse matches and mini mystery solving sessions, the next worse thing is only giving a shit because it has your fetish.

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Makes sense. Twitter is the worst of them.

Hmmm. Yes.

Now find me a single example of such that isn't mocked as cringey and embarrassing today, often by liberals themselves.

If you unironically think that, user, then you should go back to Yea Forums immediately.

i bet you eat garbage food tho.

Blame the cancer fans. Which might or not include yourself.

Cope harder.
based

I miss when I could disagree on the hate

memeing in defeat. go eat some low quality garbage fatty.

>Morrison was literally drugged out and insane, his writing makes sense in that context

>Legend > Dark Crystal
...That's unpopular?

it was always just a creepy scene to me. The music, the red everywhere, and the tension of it all.

Get better standards and stop support low quality shit in the first place you mutt

Let people enjoy what they want.

Bone is overrated. It's a 7/10 at best.

You can't reason with people like them. They believe that their standards are the only ones that should be considered. If it doesn't fit into their standards, it's trash.

So you're a retard who likes surface level shit, got it.

Agreed, it's a shame because it starts off so comfy and likable and then completely loses sight of itself

Imagine being that miserable of a person

I always thought the movie was too long and meandered too much. But Ock carries it and the scene where Spidey gets unmasked by the civilians was kino

>BvS: Ultimate Edition is the best film in the DCEU franchise
>Avenegers: Age of Ultron is a better film than the Avengers, which is an okay film that succeeded in having lots of heroes in a single film, along with nostalgia and hype
>The movie ending of Watchmen goes more along with the themes of the story, than the original ending. The whole comic is just too long for a single movie to adapt it.
>I enjoyed Secret Empire and Captain Hydra manipulating the events of Civil War II is the only redeeming aspect of the event. Captain Hydra was an incredibly intelligent sociopath that would have won if not for a Deus Ex Machina
>The IDW run of transformers was pretty good with lots of interesting twists, with the only bad run being Lost Light
>Disney owning Fox is possibly the worst of all outcomes for cape movies, as Fox also held the rights to the Aliens and Predator franchises
>Political discussion is fine in comic books if taken seriously, such as Secret War, Civil War and Captain America: Winter Soldier. Drawing a villain to look like Trump or mocking him randomly in a story ruins the immersion and is the story equivalent of watching a movie and someone takes out there phone
>Young Justice was never good, it was okay until it dropped off the map with season 3 (seriously, fuck what they did to Static Shock)
>Waifu wars ruin threads of series and becomes shitposting with no actual discussion, whether or not theres fanservice in any media discussed. It just becomes a handful of people trying to out-shitpost each other and these threads should just be banned
>Marvel's Spiderman is the worst spiderman series as it's so mediocre, when compared to the other series. The series just dosent try to be good, but have every episode be okay rather than try to do something unique.
>Logan is my favorite superhero movie of all time and one of my top western movies
>Magneto is my favorite Marvel character, despite him constantly switching sides like he's bipolar

the teen titans cartoon had a really ugly art style
"sexy" costumes usually look retarded
most comic book writers are too dumb to handle actually serious topics
comics will never be taken seriously as a medium in america

So, maybe I'm not the only one that liked the more slice of life stuff there but doesn't care for when things go EPIC and DEEPEST LORE?

I wouldn't think that if this board didn't spend its time talking about cartoons aimed at children, comics aimed at manchildren, and didn't helm AtlA as a masterpiece.
Comics and cartoons aren't inherently manchildish, Yea Forums is.
Also before I came to Yea Forums my main board was Yea Forums, not Yea Forums. In fact I never went to Yea Forums before Yea Forums and you know what? Here's an unpopular opinion:
>Yea Forums often has more civil and smarter capeshit threads than Yea Forums

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>Avengers: Age of Ultron is a better film than the Avengers
I think I can agree on that. Cap was better on it. The whole infinity stone thing tacked in kinda does it a disservice though.

You can still disagree with people who are retarded enough to think Disney owns 60% of the world's media because they murdered Star Wars.

Well, they did murder their own good stuff (specially 2D animated movies), Star Wars, Marvel... can't disagree anymore when people hate on them.

Can certainly disagree with retarded hyperbole though, so that's a thing.

Homestuck threads shouldn't get automatically pruned.

Also shippers.

>Comics:
-I unironically liked Secret Invasion. The promising premise was wasted on cartoonish dialogue and scenarios, but they were at least humorous.
-New Krypton might be the most boring Superman story I've ever read, though maybe I can't talk because I liked Grounded.
-I unironically liked Avengers vs. X-Men, and I was rooting for the Avengers all the way through.
-On that note, Cyclops was wrong.
-Morrison's JLA has some of the shittiest art I've ever seen, and it makes the stories damn near unreadable.

>Cartoons:
-Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Venture Bros, Metalocalypse: these are the only good Adult Swim shows. No others.
-The only good Transformers cartoon ever made was Animated.
-On that note, GI Joe > any hasbro property, and that's both comics and cartoons. Not movies, though, obviously.

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Sometimes there's a reason why your opinion is unpopular, it's shit.

>Cyclops was wrong
You should be right but the story bends itself backwards to justify him, despite people judging him as wrong in universe. Really pushed (unintentionally I'm pretty sure) the martyr angle Slimfags have been going with since then. On that alone it's a pretty terrible story.

>Harvey Birdman Attorney At Law isn't good
OH COME ON!

I would say that just because something has an overarching storyline, doesn't necessarily make it good.

Based
Fuck Ratatoullie

On that note
>just because something is serious/dramatic doesn't make it mature

I’m glad we’re seeing more gay characters in cartoons.

>Yea Forums
>being civil or smart
You may be right about us, but if there's one thing you're wrong about, it's bashing us for enjoying cartoons rather than ignoring us and thinking that Yea Forums is far more civil when it's just /pol/2.

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>>Avengers: Age of Ultron is a better film than the Avengers
>I think I can agree on that. Cap was better on it. The whole infinity stone thing tacked in kinda does it a disservice though.

yeah i liked ultron better than loki or thanos honestly

>>TDKR is the worst Batman story ever. It turned Batman into an insufferable edgelord and ruined his relationship with Superman to this day. Batman was never meant to be the dark cloud of misery we got today
Wasn't it considered shit and poorly reviewed when it was first published?

>People who complain about text in older comics suffer from reading disabilities
tbf Stan Lee's writing makes the old Marvel comics feel extremely dense, though if you focus on each panel and construct action from it you'll have a pretty good time.

Can you literally not read? I'm not talking about enjoying cartoons (not sure where you got "bashing" from other than your own insecurities), it's discussing only the most childish cartoons around and despising cartoons aimed at adults.
I fucking love cartoons.

And yeah it seems incredible but I've seen discussions on Yea Forums between casuals and knowledgeable comicsfags that didn't just amount to a dick meauring contest, regardless of how cancerous most of Yea Forums is.

Deadpool's the best thing associated with X-Men and is consistently the best comic/character even if he has lows like Way or Young.

>despising adult ones
That's because a lot of them suck and are 99.9% nothing but edgy "we're adult guize!" jokes.
If only we got an adult animated series that actually focuses on genres like action and sci-fi rather than being comedy focused, then more of us would be talking about adult cartoons.

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>Shocker is the best Spider-Man villain.
>The comics industry deserves to collapse.
>Endgame was better than Infinity War.
>Far From Home is the best Spider-Man movie.
>Jessica Jones Season 1 was great.
>Michael Clarke Duncan's Kingpin was good.

Avengers Initiative > Young Avengers.

>>Michael Clarke Duncan's Kingpin was good.

i thought that was a popular opinion

I've seen a lot of people complaining about the raceswapping of him, so I figured it would be unpopular. I could be entirely wrong though.

It's conflicting, raceswapping is always ridiculous, but Michael Clarke Duncan was a treasure.

The anti-Disney circlejerk is tiresome and elitist.

FFH is better than Spiderman 2

OMG So many people If I dark crystals dick. There's even a new video game as if Dark Crystal's the only property that could do what it trying to do.

Yeah, everyone who criticizes Disney is a meaniehead and a hater who hates fun things
Everything they do is great

when you post about your feelings baout things and your position in an imaginary social structure instead of hte content of the board, you know you only deserve death like the parasite you are. your funkos never made you a nerd.

This, but unironically

Oh don't get me wrong, I actually like The Dark Crystal, love a lot of stuff about it and I get hyped for most stuff related.
I'm just saying, as a movie in general, I prefer Legend by far and I'd be surprised if that's an unpopular opinion. It just never got a franchise around it, probably for the best.

Counterpoint but also an addendum

The first two Raimi Spider-man movies are good for what they are: two good stories about HIS Spider-man that manage take some elements of the character and make them the focus.

But a golden standard for what Spider-man movies should be they're definitely not. Raimi's Spider-man lack like half of what makes the character complete, like his actual jokey personality, as well as his actual cast. MJ is a generic love interest in the movies, and that's not good enough compared to her comic counterpart.

The closest we ever got to a perfect Spider-man was with Garfield in ASM2 and ONLY in ASM2. Shame the storytelling in that movie was complete garbage.

>inb4 counterarguments about ASM1 to refute my point, even though I was not using that movie as a good example

Nope. People back then had good taste.

I'm ok with the gingerpocalypse in favor of giving blacks more space, but if Daredevil gets raceswapped and he isn't latino, I'm going to shoot Marvel Studios.

>inb4 counterarguments about ASM1 to refute my point
Just saying, one thing ASM1 got right was a bit of joking.
It's such a shame they decided to borrow so much from Ultimate.

MJ was selfish mean spirited manipulative cunt.
Hell, I can't think of a single good person in raimi's spiderman's life.

Mr Ditkovich was a good person.

>Just saying, one thing ASM1 got right was a bit of joking.
the jokes in ASM1 were awful though. They were just weirdly cruel. His sense of humor improved so much in ASM2 to the point I'm actually sad the executives had so much power over the movie, because the scriptwriter knew how to write Spidey.

Aunt May was great. She had the right to be upset about Uncle Ben dying, but after a while she became her innocent self. Shit, I actually got tears thinking about her reaction when Peter told her he was partially responsible.

I don't think all the "sjw" stuff in Yea Forums media now a days is pandering because things have been straight and white for like 100 years so having new kinds of characters is refreshing.

Here's some DC ones
>Every TNBA design (except Poison Ivy) is inferior to the original. I prefer Bruce Wayne look and tone in BTAS than TNBA.
>The best Batman story is Year One. Miller is overrated and Mazzucchelli is a better artist.
>Batman's only companions should be Alfred, Dick, Tim and Cassandra.
>Catwoman works better as a companion, with anti-hero elements.
>DC are better in the comics and animation department, while Marvel are better at movies.
>Bob Kane is a hack. Bill Finger deserves to be remembered more.
>Jason Momoa is the superior Aquaman.
>Martian Manhunter is basically Superman but better.
>The Long Halloween is a great story, but God, is the art terrible. At least When in Rome looks great.

I don't like Deadpool, at least the movie Deadpool.

GOTG is the best MCU movie.

While I wish the show had better choreographed action sequences and or more ridiculous examples of her super powers, I think the new She-Ra cartoon is great for the characterizations/character relationships alone. It's okay that Bow and Glimmer are a pair of goobers who need to grow the fuck up and Adora and Catra have their broken relationship.

If you're talking about Far From Home then I agree with you. Otherwise, you have shit taste faggot.

Based and redpilled,lolis are love.

Modern cartoons aren't really about action do sometimes feel like it's begrudgingly put in there. Thankfully the more recent SU season/movie and She-ra are at least attempting to put stuff in there even if it isn't the best. Characters are where it's at in this show.

>i like the relationships and the coffee shop AU setting
Unironically kill yourself

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No, i like things that are actually fun you blithering retard
No, if your shit taste is having an adverse effect on the media i consume then i will call you out on it when it negatively effects my shows by encouraging the worse aspects of them.

y'know something, user. you're good people.

>while still good,

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This.

Let me guess, that's a one way street right? Your shitty attitude effecting others doesn't matter?

If you support a terrible show then you deserve to be bullied and humiliated. Same thing for any normalfag that supports bad movies like the lion king or sequel wars.

If you encourage bad cartoons then you are apart of the problem and why cartoons will continue to get worse and not better.

All your shows are shit and thus you're guilty of the same things you accuse others of. Wow, that was easy.

based

Nope, certain shows are objectively worse than others, and faggots with low standards should be attacked just as badly as the shows themselves

All your shows then. Got it.

Cope harder that your shit taste in cartoons makes you an inferior specimen of humanity then i am.

If you watch Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon, Disney Channel, Disney XD, etc past the age of 12, regardless of the year, kill yourself.

>>Into the Spider-Verse is just an incredibly average coming-of-age story and didn't deserve all the praise it still gets, let alone an Oscar
Bro that movie had the best animation I've ever seen. They managed to make a movie legitimately look like a comic book. It totally deserved that Oscar, especially compared to its competition

This is kinda obscure and really specific but here goes
kieron gillens run on Darth Vader is fine popcorn comics, but the panel layout just makes it look like a story board and not a comic book. Having 4 long rectangular panels on a page is just sad and pathetic

>I only watch shows with CULTURE like Family Guy!

>I like Batman vs Superman movie, but just for the Batman scenes.
>I think the Joker is overrated and over used
>Marvel has more better Heroes, but DC is the better universe all around
>The best big event is still Blackest Night

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Yikes. I was slightly joking about being unreasonable.

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Not to mention the character writing, soundtrack and humor is great. It's not just a pretty face even if the story is kind of basic.

the increasing prevalence of LGBT characters is a good thing. Society is becoming more accepting, they should be included. What happened to Bobby Drake was bullshit and is the absolute worst way to create this diversity. New gay characters should be introduced, old ones should not be altered

Man of Steel was a great movie.

>The best big event is still Blackest Night
Oh totally, it was a really cool idea, had great art, and it happened as the zombie craze was just getting underway. Perfect example of what a big event should be

>Society is becoming more accepting
I always find this bullshit, along with the feminism thing. I grew up in a old small town that was very conservative, but they were very accepting of gays and women. Hell, most all bosses and the mayor was a woman. Then I moved to Houston and traveled to New York and San Francisco and found that places that claim to be progressive/liberal are the ones that are really not. I see the fight for accepting, but it is a smaller local fight than people think it is.

Faggot

Idk if this is unpopular, but batman should just stay in the shadows mostly, none of this over the top action hero shit

spider-Man 1 is better

Same

This 100%

Disney hasn't made a good movie since Tangled

Dreamworks hasn't made a good movie since El Dorado

The MCU is soulless garbage that is actively hurting film as an artform

Fuck no!

First Avenger is unironically top 5 MCU movies

Comics are for dummies

Shadman draws some fine art

iron man 2 is the only good MCU film and Justin hammer was a more enjoyable villain than thanos

-Wonder Woman is by very far the best DC movie. Snydershit isn't good, Nolanshit isn't good and Burtonshit isn't good, Aquaman isn't good, Shazam was vomit inducing.
-Superman Returns is the second best DC movie ever
-If Warner stopped making so many goddamned superhero shows they might would have enough budget to make 1 fucking decent show
-Avengers EMH was better than DCAU JL and JLU
-Spectacular Spider-Man is the most overrated superhero cartoon ever
-The Green Lantern cartoon was actually the most interesting DC animated show and it died too soon

If it makes you feel better, hilda was one of the few recent shows i liked.

Are you sure you just ain't from a parallel universe?

ASM had some obvious flaws. The ones that immediately come to mind are
>Peter giving half a fuck about his biological parents, much less seemingly caring more about them than Ben and May
>The whole subplot about Peter being some kind of a chosen one
>Practically all of his villains coming from that stupid animal hybrid program at Oscorp
That being said, they got practically everything else just right, and people who complained about him being a jaded outcast dickhead in school have no idea what they're talking about. Growing out of that attitude was his whole arc in Lee/Ditko/Romita's run. They also absolutely nailed the Flash/Peter dynamic. Despite their flaws, the ASM movies are absolutely underrated and would've been near masterpieces if it weren't for studio meddling. They're way better than the MCU "attempts" at the character at the very least.

Cringe

Unironically Jonah

>Ang Lee's The Hulk is a misunderstood near masterpiece.
>The Nolan Trilogy stopped being good the second Joker blew up that hospital.
>Live action shit about Yea Forums material belongs on Yea Forums.
>The first Amazing Spider-Man movie was legitimately a good movie. It's one of the only Spider-Man stories as of latethat acknowledges that Peter created Spider-Man as a revenge power fantasy. I'm fucking sick of every television/movie adaptation of the Origin completely softening up Peter and his actions.
>MCU Spider-Man's only problem is that they refuse to name drop or have a picture of Uncle Ben. The movies do a fantastic job of implying his origins, but he acts like he doesn't have one.
>Jane FosThor was cringe the first few issues, but got pretty good after a while. Aaron can be good so long as he has a competent editor. And I'm perfectly confident that Waititi can pull something good out of the run.
>Captain Marvel was an average movie at best, but the hate it and Brie Larson get is so completely nonsensical that it makes me love the movie and Larson out of pure spite.
>tacticool is fine, shut up.
>X-24 was a fucking stupid antagonist and severely dragged down my enjoyment of Logan.
>Jeff Lemire's MoonKnight and Tom King's Vision are both unironically better than Watchmen.
>Richard Rider is the best Marvel hero.
>Steve Ditko was completely right in wanting the Green Goblin's identity to be a regular guy. Gobby's appeal is that he has power but uses it irresponsibly. No shit a business owner will use the power he has irresponsibly.
>Scorpion is the most underutilized Spider-Man foe of all time.
>Moon Knight >>>> Batman

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I don't think your first point is a unpopular opinion, bro

Eh i actually find DC heroes more interesting and better

>Deadpool is and was never funny or great
>Marvel really should move some of their heroes elsewhere instead of New York
>First Avenger is one of the best MCU movies
>Burton>Nolan
>Ragnarok was awful
>Batman Begins is better than Dark Knight

Nolan's trilogy is boring and forgettable. Nobody remembers TDKR and Batman Begins anymore and the only reason why people still remember TDK is because the gay cowboy died.

I think Begins is the best movie to represent modern Batman. Tdk is only worth it fir Joker. Rises sucks.

Call me a faggot, i still love the opening of Rises

begins is way better than the dark knight and the only movie that could pass as a batman movie out of the 3

Yeah, it had cool gadgets like the thing that summoned the bats and a bit of detective work. At one point he is outside a window listening to the people inside. It wasn't just a bunch of action

Rises is the good one, actually. The only one out of the three that actually feels like a superhero movie

not bad but not good enought ending

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Honestly this has more to do with my opinions on this board rather than Yea Forums media

>webcomics > literally every other medium

> waifu wars and shipping shit is cancer when taken way to seriously. But besides that point, never could understood The appeal of wanting to fuck a waifu you personally find cute or some shit. Like for total hotties I understand but...

> I could careless for cheesecake and eye candy. I just want a engaging story and good art. If I wanted to see sexy shit I just read erotica or porn comics.

>unless done right, I don't have any strong feelings for sidecuts (the hair style) or undercuts. I don't care unless it throws the character design off balance...which held the time it does.

>there's not enough goth boys in Yea Forums media I find remotely attractive. So I just waifu goth girls to get my fix. But seriously though I legit wanna see more qt goth boys.

>despite enjoying dc cartoons as a kid, I'm not as huge as a dc fan I use to be. There's not many relatable street level characters besides static to really grab my interest. That's why I'm more into marvel. Shame most of their comics kinda suck nowadays regardless of the politics.

>infinity train episode one was bad but I wish it could be better.

>when not doing that goddamn Harley voice, tara.strong is a okay voice actor but not this goddess of voice acting some folks outside Yea Forums make her out to be.

>I hate most golden age super hero outfits. They all look goofy and silly to me. I prefer civve spandex or At least a bit more in the middle. Like not super tacticool but still not super dumb.

>I enjoy anime and to a very much lesser extent some manga, but besides art style, I don't want western media to imitate anime and manga. Most of it tends to lack any understanding or end up using shitty anime tropes I fucking hate like harems and copious amounts of fan service. Please leave that shit out of my comics and cartoons.

>you don't need to be half naked to be sexy. I like my cheesecake tasteful.

> Unnatural hair colors>redheads> burnettes> dirty blondes> generic aryan blondes

>most netfilx animated shows are at best medicore. Not as bad as most of Yea Forums make them out to be.

>I'm not a fan of one gender cast. I'm not gonna watch a show where everyone is all guys or all girls no matter how good the show is. The only reason I don't hate she ra or dcshg is there's at least some other genders being presented. So, if the show is just mostly guys with some female characters, that's okay and vice versa. (And they better be hot and sexy too)

>2d animation or at least traditional is never coming back to the mainstream. Ever. As it pains me to say it. Though personally I enjoy stylized 3d animation just as much as 2d. Animation is animation. Don't give a shit

>webcomics > literally every other medium
Stopped reading there

That's an unpopular opinion dumbass, what did you expect?

It's still a shit opinion.

Subjectively to you...and let's leave it at that.

tacticool armors >>>>> spandex shit
i'm glad superheros stopped dressing up as clowns

Greg the Bunny was pretty good. It did everything Happytime Murders tried to.

Traps are not gay

The first two seasons of Ponies are not bad, Faust left for good reason, the fandom's influence on the writers and animators ruined the show.

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This is widely accepted within politically correct cicles. Being attracted to men dressed as women is straight and you're a bigot if you think otherwise

based me man...wait..but what if the trap/femboy is gay and likes big string men? Is that super gay?

Costumes are still shit.

You are wrong with deadpool. Only Waypool is shit and not funny.

TDKR is far from the worst Batman story, but it's also not the best. It's also not the "definitive" Batman story, at the very least because of its aesthetic. Batman is associated with smokes, rains, everlasting Gotham nights and other remnants of noir. TDKR throws all that away in favor of a colorful, wacky style. I can guarantee you that when 99% people think "Batman", they imagine anything BUT the TDKR aesthetic.

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Unpopular and retarded opinion

Uh this is the UNPOPULAR opinion thread...

The Amazing World of Gumball is one of the greatest cartoons ever created.

Not really unpopular opinion

Raimi's spiderman is shit and spiderman 2 is simply the less shittier one

It's beyond time we take off our rose-tinted nostalgia glasses and start seeing Raimi's SM trilogy for the garbage that it truly was

I like South Park, but it’s “satire” is not at all its strong suit. Much of it feels surface level and tacked on. Compare it to something like Xavier: RA’s satire and you can see the difference. The best episodes were always the ones like “Casa Bonita” where it was just the characters getting into goofy situations
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>I'm not a fan of one gender cast. I'm not gonna watch a show where everyone is all guys or all girls no matter how good the show is.
This one is wuite weird. I've seen people complaining about lack of all-boys cartoons because of "obligatory girl character" and "forced diversity" but never seen a consumer requiring co-ed cast.

>tacticool is fine, shut up.
Agreed.
>The best episodes were always the ones like “Casa Bonita” where it was just the characters getting into goofy situations
I agree with this too. Maybe that's still why I like those very early seasons the best. I feel like the movie did the best balance of satire and goofiness.

Except maybe for the morrison crap part

I have read a lot of rticles that said the opposite tho, that the art was crude and the writing was ''trying to hard to sound adult'' but it was edgy as fuck.

There's nothing wrong with quips in the marvel movies. They add a bit of levity, they add little character flavors, especially when you have to juggle lots of characters at once, are quick lines to liven up an action scene, and comics are already quipy. They're a direct movie translation of 'witty' banter that comics have.

"What if [definitely not Yea Forums thing] was a cartoon" threads should not be allowed.

>All the Nolan dark Knight films are ass, raimi did hero better

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But Superman is ready and willing to kill. He went straight to killing Doomsday when he saw all the destruction it brought.

No they fucking aren't, if its a movie based off a comic, it's a fucking movie. This board is for discussing the mediums of comics and cartoons, not movies and television based off of comics and cartoons.

You just don't like Ratatouille because it promotes higher standards for society and thus that you should hold yourself to higher standards. Which of course you don't want to.

BvS is the greatest achievement of the comics industry and likely always will be.

ATLA is embarassingly bad and always has been.

Spider-Verse 'artstyle' is terrible, just a cost cutting gimmick to make nerds feel like they are being appealed to.

This shouldn't be unpopular but KND is obviously the best written show for children ever made.

-Tangled is a mediocre film and the worst of the Revival-Era musicals. It's only accomplishment is in adapting the Disney musical formula to 3D, but does absolutely nothing to innovate past it, nor does it hold a candle to the Renaissance films that it's inspired by. Both in terms of story and music.
The only thing that makes Tangled interesting is the TV show that spawned from it.

-Of the Revival-Era musicals, it's Moana>Frozen>Princess and the Frog>Tangled

I guess mine off the top of my head would be that Heroes in Crisis is actually good.

>>john k is based and chris savino is a victim of an anti male sentiment based witch hunt
Based and redpilled. John K is only hated by people because he is actually passionate about his craft all of his eccentricities are the tell-tale signs of being a real artist, but most people are normalfags reliant on groupthink to inform their opinions so they don't understand this. My suspicion for Savino is that he may be a Christian leading to him being ousted.

Never let faggots deter you from having taste my friend. Always remember you are based and keep fighting the good fight, even if these people don't appreciate what you're doing for them, anyone who truly loves art will understand and support you.

If you are white and like Logan you are a disgrace to your people and deserve to die. If you aren't white stop supporting racism.

Lex doesn’t even have a code name.
How can he be better?

90s kids need to stop viewing everything with nostalgia goggles. A lot of 90s cartoons sucked ass. Doug, Real Monsters, Cow and Chicken, Rocket Power, Catdog, Angry Beavers, and Rocko's are unwatchable.

nah. different user, but that opinion is objectively retarded.

>ATLA is literally western shounenshit.
I say this as a raimifag, with such shit taste I can say I enjoy some of spiderman 3
>I hate toby mcguire spiderman. I really hate his, kirsten dunst, and james franco's acting in all 3 movies.
I don't like Andrew Garfield or Tom Holland (maybe if he were still in highschool) Spiderman's either but, they at least aren't stilted as fuck.
>I hate into the spiderverse peni.
>I don't get the love for Kappa Mikey, I think it's a pretty forgettable show.
>Anything with edgy 2000's humor is not funny.
>I hate the animu artstyle of TT 03, it wasn't even that great to begin with.

Teen Titans Go is unironically good
NuPPG is okay
KOTH ending is not bad, as it would've ended up just like Family Guy and Simpsons

i have to agree, you know whos OSTs are absolute bangers

i'd say for an unpopular opinion, having a death grips obsession to watch the pone show is what hurts it the most, because people then start to expect more from a kids show

That’s just bullshit. You can say they’re not as good as people say they are or they aren’t better than so and so. But saying they’re objectively unwatchable is trash.

Except any scene with Doug and Patty. Skip over that crap.

It's not even that much to expect. If they just maintained the status quo, they wouldn't keep painting themselves in a corner so many times.

>Doug, Cow and Chicken, Rocket Power, and CatDog
Huh, that just might be-
>Real Monsters and Rocko
nevermind.

And Mongul.

Moon knight sucks

Chris Nolan has a serious nihilism fetish. He believes in nothing, and enjoys nothing. It spills into all of his work.

Super Duper Sumos is hilarious and the people who bash it have no taste whatsoever.

>preffering unnatural hair colors to anything else

Gonna be yikea from me, fren

It wasn't garbage.

Well to be fair I think my favorite Marvel Heroes are just tweaked DC ones (Richard Rider, Moon Knight, Ghost Rider, Beta Ray Bill, Spider-Man 2099) I mean Ghost Rider is Etrigan but with a motorcycle, Moon Knight is more interesting Batman, Richard Rider is Hal Jordan but grows in intellect instead of loses, Spider-man 2099=Batman Beyond/Batman One Million, I got nothing for Beta Ray Bill.

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Your mom sucks my dick

Comic book fans have ruined comic books. Taking what was once fun filled simple hobby and turning it into serious art that deserves serious attention is what is killing industry.

Anime colors mostly not The whole danger hair bull shit. I just find natural hair apart.from redheads.to be freaking boring.

Seriously, so you anons have such shit taste in hair styles?

There's a few cartoons that do that like later gromiti spin offs where everyone is fucking dude. The one made by marathon was the one I tolerated the most since the pink air chick was kinda hot.

The only unpopular opinion in the whole thread

I wanna fuck her

I agree with the TDK thing. Harvey's arc after that made no sense and the bomb scene felt dumb

Yea Forums loves its memes and stupid phrases.

Family Guy was still pretty good during season 6. After that it all began to decline

this is 100% fact. waifufags are cancer

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>muh tastes are better than pleb
Fuck off,unsufferable hipster shit.You dont detain the key of "good taste" especially when you're a fucking channer.Normies rightfully hate hipster shit nerd for a good reason,you're not a god for jacking yourself raw over X piece of media

i agree with pretty much all of this

>>Steve Ditko was completely right in wanting the Green Goblin's identity to be a regular guy. Gobby's appeal is that he has power but uses it irresponsibly. No shit a business owner will use the power he has irresponsibly.

yeah that would have been better. also bringing the original green goblin back was a mistake

Where do you even think we are?

I hate "comics should only be fun" fags. "Fun" comics are mostly okay with being mediocre. Great comics are fun to read by simply being great.

>The fact that the little horse show and pokemon both have a board to themselves is absolute bull shit and should be rectified immediately. More so /mlp/ as its ending soon anyway meaning we'd have a board solely dedicated to a dead show and it's use of a containment board is no longer needed.
>A Hollywood adaptation or a Netflix one will always be worse than the source material
>Duckman and Rango are underrated
> Animation in the west in most circumstances is far leagues behind that in the east and has lost most of its's soul
>spiderverse was only well received because it had decent / 'Unique' animation
>The original teens titans wasn't that great and is only put on a pedestal because people are nostalgia blind. TTG isn't bad and is actually a good KIDS cartoon, people who go out of their way to hate on in just scream autism

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No.

I’ve never gotten the humor of Harvey Birdman or Space Ghost Coast to Coast. It always seemed like a bunch of fucking nonsense and awkward pauses, with an occasional actual joke thrown in.

>Jack Kirby style was ugly, every character he draw always ended up with that square, cavemen faces. His style is almost ugly as Sal Buscema's
>Grant Morrison is a pretentious hipster and his writing is shit
>Batman is boring and overrated, both the character and the setting/stories
>Marvel/DC in general were shit since the early 00's

>Rango
>underrated
what. that shit won an oscar and is treated as a masterpiece by everyone that knows about it, if anything it is one of the most overrated animated movies ever

It's just way too fucking gay for my tastes.

> Animation in the west in most circumstances is far leagues behind that in the east and has lost most of its's soul
I mean, maybe it's a contrarian opinion on Yea Forums but i think most people would agree with that statement

Hipsters don't exist anymore. And you are the enemy of art if you do not believe that people should hold things to any kind of standard.

Agreed with all of these.

>BvS: Ultimate Edition is the best film in the DCEU franchise
>Avenegers: Age of Ultron is a better film than the Avengers, which is an okay film that succeeded in having lots of heroes in a single film, along with nostalgia and hype
>The movie ending of Watchmen goes more along with the themes of the story, than the original ending. The whole comic is just too long for a single movie to adapt it.
>Disney owning Fox is possibly the worst of all outcomes for cape movies, as Fox also held the rights to the Aliens and Predator franchises
>Political discussion is fine in comic books if taken seriously, such as Secret War, Civil War and Captain America: Winter Soldier. Drawing a villain to look like Trump or mocking him randomly in a story ruins the immersion and is the story equivalent of watching a movie and someone takes out there phone
Absolutely correct.

The X-men are better off in a separate universe.

Except for Batman, generally agreeable.

They really feel like a different universe. Disney could make the Mutantverse apart from the regular MCU, but that would be too confusing for the general audiences

Non.

My god!
What happened to this Frank Miller?

Unless you read comics from better days. Without the rest of Marvel, Rogue wouldn't have turned into a flying brick, Juggernaut wouldn't be a powerhouse, Wolverine wouldn't exist and Asgardian Wars 2 just wouldn't have happened and Dani wouldn't be a valkyrie, and that's all just wrong.

Oh yeah, also no Mystique or Sabretooth, so fuck that.

I love Sneedposting

THIS!

shill

retard

Also no Firestar

No fuck that

True but i mean on resetera and twiiter it will still count as an unpopular opinion seen as any praise of eastern animation gets you labeled as a weeb

I mean it is largely unforgotten now, i see the confusion but i don't mean rango and duckman are equally underrated

ASM movies are shit.

>MOS was the best Superman movies. Richard Donner's don't hold up upon viewing them today.

>TDK is overrated. Begins is the best in the Nolan trilogy because it's the only one that feels like a Batman movie

>If Miles Morales were anything but Black or a female they could waifu or fap to, they'd have no problem with the character.

>If Miles Morales were anything but Black or a female they could waifu or fap to, they'd have no problem with the character.
Objectively wrong though, look at how much love Silk gets and she fits both criteria pretty well.
Note that the hate/indifference for her is also well deserved.

Needs to get to 500

i can agree that Miller never wrote anything good other than his original daredevil run, but as an artist he was always great. even his drawings during the "sin city" phase are nice

Yea Forums desperately needs a general board
This is what we should have done instead of creating mlp

No.

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Another "containment" board will not fix anything. What is needed is better janitors and moderation.

>Rises sucks
For you.

Comics and Cartoons are pretty good

Absolutely compelling and convincing post, gaylord

Raimi Spiderman movies are mediocre as shit

Mos and bvs are masterpieces in the genre

Nolan's batman movies are cool and the only outdated part is batman himself (referring to his costume and action scenes not the character)

bump

no

>Criticisms of adaptations into the MCU, which mainly go "It's not muh comics, lets fix the MCU by copy+pasting comics with entirely different contexts/characters/settings into the MCU and it will be good!" are self destructive and idiotic, as they completely disregard the setting of the movies.
>The Dark Phoenix is a terrible fucking story and comicsfags have ruined the X-Men movies for bitching for close to a decade about its forced and unnatural inclusion into the movies, which killed the Last Stand and killed Dark Phoenix. The Phoenix Force/Dark Phoenix shit was never good, never adaptable, and comicsfags continue to bitch about it being adapted "right"

Same with Up. Great start and then it turned Dreamworks.

Junji ito won but for a weaker manga.

i don't know. the premise that a woman in a superhero team gets unimaginable power for some reason and goes mad with it has enough promise . you'd just have to do a very loose adaption and not be afraid to chuck out a lot of the usual lore. although this board reees whenever you do that so whatever

>>Captain Marvel was an average movie at best, but the hate it and Brie Larson get is so completely nonsensical that it makes me love the movie and Larson out of pure spite.
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The Kingdom hearts series is the worst co related game. If I had to invite a shit eater or a KH fanboy then the shit eater would win. There is at least some hope for them.

That would make his movies better. Interstellar was shit because he isn't and put a shitty message at the end.