How do you grow to hate your own brother this much?

How do you grow to hate your own brother this much?

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Scar had an absolutly shitty childhood and was treated like crap for years over his brother. His original birth name meant trash and then while trying to prove he was just as good as Mufasa, he suffered an injury and everyone started calling him a name based on his injury.

He has every reason to hate his tyrant of an Older brother.

HE'S AN INCEL HURRRR DURRRRRR LOLOLOL

This but unironically

They probably had a really shitty dad who died before Scar could take out his shit on the king who actually wronged him.
Have they made a prequel about these two as cubs yet?

Scar is a legitimately awful person

Scar had a harem of lionesses who worshipped him. Assuming the very unlikely possibility of Scar not fucking a single lioness during his rule as king, he would have to be a vocel at most.

I would unironically do the same if I had no hope of being king AND my brother had a fucking kid, ensuring I would otherwise never be ruler.

There's no danger of that ever happening for me because I do not live in a monarchy or even have any siblings, but I completely get his position even without having to hear anything else that could've happened in his backstory.

There is nothing wrong being an incel

Scar and Mufasa had an abusive father who focused on Scar, creating deep resentment against Mufasa. Mufasa loved Scar in spite of his shktty attitude and invited him to his son's birth

The Lion King is a film about nepotism. His brother is literally "the one chosen by God", and it was actually never implied that Scar was a bad leader. He simply didn't have the king powers which is why it wasn't raining. The moment Simba becomes the king, it starts raining.

The Lion King agrees with the view that some people deserve to live shitty life and those who are born with special "gifts" deserve the good life. Wouldn't that make you bitter?

Incels dont exist.

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he wasn't king when he murdered Mufasa, retard

He was gay and therefore evil.

I agree. "Incel" is just another word made by the society to put down on guys like me.

Society hates me because i'm different. Because i dont fit in their "mold", because i'm not what the society wanst a human being to be liek. I wanted to be nothing but a good guy, but they dont let me. To them i'm just a bad person. Like some cartoon villain.

Well then so be it. i'll be a villain for the society. I am a bad guy who they can point their fingers at me. Fuck society and fuck this world.

Cute pasta kid

Why?

Probably once he got branded with the ancient mark of evil

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Plenty of Disney villains have some sort of fag-or-european way of talking that make kids recognize them as the evil master right away. Scar, Jafar, etc

Escorts exist, AMPs exist, Apps exist, Bars exist. If you haven't had found sex in the single most easy time in human history to find it, you have purposefully chosen this fate and you have no one to blame but yourself. The only people where a name like this would apply to are the mentally handicapped and people physically incapable of having sex, it's highly unlikey that either group would call themselves incels either way.

>Scar, you're going to be the king of everything
>Oh no, wait, I had a better son, NVM

>Mufasa: Hey bro, how's my scraps? Circle of life, haha.

He was sickly and weak, and lions generally ignore, shun, or chase away the weak ones so they die on their own and don't consume resources. So...

>Have they made a prequel about these two as cubs yet?
No, probably never will since I'm pretty sure Disney isn't allowed to make sequels/prequels anymore

Be born a sociopath.

I see your point. You're talking about the "involutary" part of it. There's always self-improvement, self-care, lowering standarts, stop acting self-entitled and on. Magnificent.

Well, I don't disagree with you.

They're stuck in self-entitlement combined with complete incapability of self-critique and self-improvement. They think they deserve what they want and its the worlds fault that they don't get it.

The whole "involuntary" bullshit tries to sell the idea that its the WHOLE WORLD'S fault, and not theirs.

If you're a fictional character and you get a facial scar you're fucked

It comes from the common thought that since evil is the opposite of good and therefore things that are holy, evil is the defiance of god, and what else can defy God more than homosexuality?

As far as I know the background material implies it was the other way around. Their father favored Simba for being big and strong and was a total asshole to Scar long before Scar turned evil.

Simply endure years worth of pent-up butthurt over the fact that you're mentally, physically and socially inferior to your older brother, who gets all the bitches and is destined to rule over you after your dad dies.

>INCEL
He have sex though. I mean, he has a daughter called Nala. There is only two lions and if Mufasa is not Nala's father then...

It's that they literally have a choice to have sex, dont take it for whatever reason and then have the audacity to blame outside forces for their virginal status.

It's always in their power to find it. And if they choose not to, then that's on them.

He's clearly gay within the original movie. Effeminate mannerisms, whole pride of females for himself for years and zero offspring.

And yes, I know he has a son in the shitty sequels, so let me explain some things for intellectually challenged out there that think that means he couldn't be gay.
First of all, that trash sequel where it turns out he had a son was just a lazy excuse to rehash yet another Shakespeare plot for more cash, instead of some grand artistic vision that was being truthful to to the characters. And even if you do take the sequels seriously, it's possible for a gay person to have a kid. It's usually the result of them being in the closet.

This.
Scar just wasn't special enough to warrant having a good life, no wonder he was so bitter.

The sequel literally says that Kovu is Scars adopted successor. But besides that, Scar probably didn't have any kids because he wasn't supposed to, The Lion King basically works off the idea that for some magic reason Simba is supposed to be King...it's why it doesn't rain when Scar steals the crown, he's not the chosen meme lion so everything fucks up. No doubt he tried to have kids but never succeeded.

Original script had Scar wanting to marry Nala and have children. He was never in Gay, just flamboyant.

Scar never had children because he was a poor king and because the Pridelands are a Fisher Kingdom, where it's prosperity is magically determined by how fit it's ruler is.

Mufasa was a virile badass, so they flourished
Scar was a sterile wimp, so they withered
Simba returned and bred, so they once again flourished

YOU WHO I CALLED BROTHER, HOW COULD YOU HAVE COME TO HATE ME SO? IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED?

THEN LET MY HEART BE HARDENED, AND NEVER MIND HOW HIGH THE COST MAY GROW!

THIS WILL STILL BE SO: I WILL NEVER LET YOUR PEOPLE GO!

society hates incels because of that little tidbit where incels advocate rape and murder, sometimes of children, because they cant get laid

>it was actually never implied that Scar was a bad leader.

lol wut, the fucking land was dead and gray as shit, there was no food because the hyenas broke the circle of life rule and overkilled, did you watch the movie my guy?

The land was dead because it wasn't raining. It's not his fault he simply didn't have the magical rain powers of true king. The moment Simba becomes the king he gets the magic powers of the true king and everything is fine again.

This. We don't hate them because they're the Other. We hate them because their vocal psycopaths. I'm bewildered why any of the sane one still identify with such an obviously tainted name

pretty sure the land died because the zebras and antelopes were all murdered by overkill, because you know all the skeletons and the fact that simba's mom says ''there's no more food'', scar made a pact with the devil and paid the price, the whole point of the film is the circle of life concept and to take as much as you need and not as much as you want, that's why scar sucked dick as king and simba was a good ruler, mufasa event talks about this when he says lions turn to grass zebras eat the grass and lions eat the zebras, the land died with scar as king because he broke the rule, fucking kids understand this shit my man and it went over your head? read a book my dude

It sure would have been nice if the remake had spent the extra runtime exploring Scar's past, maybe why the hyenas are osctracized, or why the animal's pledge fealty to lions.

Nope, here's a dung beetle rolling around shit. Bravo Disney.

>or why the animal's pledge fealty to lions
You really can't explain this in any way that won't get accusations of the movie being pro-slavery. The circle of life concept is that the animals who are not on the top of the food chain (like the lions) should love their oppressors. They're nothing but cattle to the lions but they are made to believe it's for their good. I mean it does work in the animal kingdom but try telling humans that you're overbreeding and that's why some of you need to be used for the higher class.

>extra runtime exploring Scar's past
no need, he was a jealous dick who in the end turned out both incompetent and weak and his biggest achievement was using the trust of his brother

>why the hyenas are ostracized
because they're homicidal nut-jobs?

>why the animal's pledge fealty to lions
the same reason humans do to actual kings, from fear, for protection, and in respect of their strength and wisdom

Scar never had children (that we were aware of anyway) because Mufasa would murder them on sight. Only a single male is usually allowed to breed in a pride, and if any other male happens to create offspring the main lion systematically hunts them down and murders the fuck outta them

The guy is the leader, got the best females, you think you are smarter and more worthy then him. That's why. Wasn't Lion King supposed be basically Disney's version of Hamlet anyway?

Are you serious? Is this true? Mufasa is the villain then dude. Scar literally did what he had to do out of self preservation. He's a sympathetic character, and potentially a hero.

Older siblings can be such cruel creatures
>the circle of life rule
Also known as the mandate of heaven

>the shitty sequels,
except that entire song abut boning Nala in the deleted scenes.
His mannerism are just to make him look like a coward, pampered and refined; contrasted to the down to earth, wise and brave mufasa.

Isn't Kovu or whatever from the sequel Scar's son?

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Scar has 2 cubs with Zira as shown in The Lion Guard and Lion King 2. Love it or hate it those are canon. Nuka is the oldest and looks like a crackhead Scar while being abused by his mom. Vitani is the youngest and when an adult is pic related, as a cub she is so adorable it's insane. Kovu is adopted so he doesn't count as one of Scar's cubs, he's just chosen to be heir. This series has been around for 25 years, how do you all not know this already?

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Did you even watch The Lion King 2? Nuka and Vitani are related to Kovu...being his brother and sister, they're all Zira's cubs. It's stated that Kovu is Scars adopted heir...so it stands to reason that Nuka and Vitani aren't Scars cubs.

>Homo villains
>Gaston/Jafar/Scar
Or maybe it's because Andreas Deja is gay and was the lead animator on all of this shit.

Kovu is adopted, which means Zira didn't give birth to him and Scar didn't sire him. Otherwise he would just be Scar's son. Nuka even says so himself in the movie. "It's always Kovu, Kovu, Kovu. Scar isn't even his father, he just took him in." Since there was no other male at the time of Scar's reign, then Zira couldn't have given birth to Kovu. Kovu has no relation whatsoever to Vitani, Nuka, Zira and Scar. The only reason Zira treated Kovu as her son was because Scar chose him as heir and she loved Scar and honored his wishes even after his death. I watched all the Lion King movies and re watched them today, watch Lion King 2 again then come back. If we still can't agree, then ask Disney on twitter or something. This is simple lore, I'm surprised there is something to even debate here.

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>You really can't explain this in any way that won't get accusations of the movie being pro-slavery.
I don't see it as pro-slavery but just pro-classism. The movie teaches kids everyone has their place in society and not to try and rise above their station in life. If you are being oppressed it is because you deserve it for being born to those pathetic parents of yours.

I think the sociopolitical message is only incidental due to the story's roots in hamlet and basically ripping off kimba, which is in itself only a product of Japanese people and their imperialist cultural values.

Very carefully.

Read hamlet.

The movie is about Simba, and him having to become responsible and adult. Scar is nothing more than inciting incident and difficult hurdle in that story.

>Mentally
He showed he wasn't. It was just hidden by being in a subservient station for years.