Did superhero movies becoming a billion dollar industry kill comics?
Did superhero movies becoming a billion dollar industry kill comics?
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In Watchmen, people stopped buying capecomics because the real thing was more interesting.
No. Short sighted sales gimmicks that killed long term readership did.
Ah shit, i misunderstood OP.
They did that to themselves.
No but it gave the industry the 50,000th and best opportunity to save it self and it was wasted as always
Comics being a medium run by fanboys killed comics.
There has definitely been a trend where it's obvious stories are written with a movie/tv adaptation in mind rather than solely for the comic medium.
It's not a trend, it's how the entire industry operates
But the movies are consistently better than the comics these days.
>shit is better than puke, especially now that puke is imitating shit.
I mean, at the height of the MCU's popularity, the comics were pushing Whor, Riri, Miles, etc etc.
At least the movies were entertaining. The comics were a cringefest.
Yes, why read something with a paragraph per bubble when you can watch something more fun
Every one of which were pitches for the next phase of the MCU
>watch something more fun
Well that's not true of DC movies and old Marvel comics have just as much fun with 150% less divershitty
Yeah, I watched the movies then went back and read Infinity Gauntlet. It was shit and lacked humor. No one wants to read old coloring books. The stories are all outdated and don't make any sense.
You're trying too hard.
Id say comics being complete shit for so many years did a bigger blow to the industry, but yeah sure video killed to comic book star.
Writers being ascended fanboys with literally not a sliver of creativity is the death. Every writer's goal is to make their childhood favorite character the most epin character in the world and re-write the same classic story over and over and over again
Which are never going to happen, because they all fucking blew AIDS-ridden donkey dick.
Everyone in this thread is a fucking retard
Diamond becoming a monopoly and the refusal to branch out of LCSes is what killed sales, in particular floppy sales
>Entertaining
This is why comics are so shit. They try to cater to people who unironically watch MCU.
If they did that, they would at least be acceptibly mediocre, instead of their current state of embarassingly awful.
so Ya Boy Zack was right about everything he has been saying this whole time?
When you aim for mediocrity, you end up with awfulness.
Digital gradient coloring, house style artwork and cronyism in hiring killed comics. Imagine shooting for "acceptable" art from one of Jim Lee's friends in a visual medium where there brilliant artists who would kill for an opportunity
>Diamond becoming a monopoly
With a little help from Robert Kirkman.
>refusal to branch out of LCSes
wow, you know fucking nothing
I hope all people who got into comics through the MCU know how unwelcome they are
it's like what miyazaki said about the anime industry being full of otakus. now the comics industry is packed with comics fanboys who are just basically repeating the stuff they loved from when they were younger instead of innovating
They decided to alienate their customers, while going for a younger and more diverse audience which isn't interested. That's what EVS is saying: youtube.com
Indycomics are still succesfull so people can live from it >>>Indiecron.com
The opposite is what's happening. If that were true then the comics would be like in the 90s.
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It's an attack on many fronts. Diamond certainly played it's own role in the decline. But the rot really begins at the creative level, and it's only gotten worse over time.
Much like video games, comic book media has become mainstream thanks to big economic success. For video games, theatrical AAA titles were what drew in large crowds. For comics, it was the MCU. But with the introduction of a mainstream audience, came the introduction of increased scrutiny and criticism. Video games and comics used to cater to their primary audience of young men. At that time, it was normal for those media to push the envelope of things that young men enjoyed. When games and comics became mainstream, there was an attempt made by both parties to reach a "wider audience". To me, this is what killed both parties too.
Once you start to include a wider audience, you start to include people who don't like video games and comics. They will criticize and complain on social media until the publishers bend to their will. And when you hire these same people to work within these industries, they will change video games and comics into something else, something often much worse. Hence our current creative rot.
>So this guy is right for exposing common sense and an opinion that has been the standard one for the past 15 years?
It's very hard to read your wall of text when you're already expousing your opinion as history. Comics were "mainstream" for most of their history, with some backlash periods here and there. The MCU has barely made a blip on comic sales, and most of the rise in comic sales has been mostly caused by non-big-two stuff, like childrens' OGNs.
Kys shill. 80s and 90s were good because writers brought influences from other genres and mediums.
This but unironically.
negative, the film industry saved comics from the inevitable collapse of all print media. now at least collectors and geekschic retards buy them
Collectors always bought them, you dunce.
>Comics were "mainstream" for most of their history
The reason why you put mainstream in quotations is because you yourself dont truly belief comics were ever mainstream. Even when comic retailers were plentiful and grocery stores and gas stations sold books every week, comics were still a niche hobby. They were never on the same scale of profitability as other media. The Death of Supernan was a milestone event that made headlines on the news. People lined up around the corner of comic shops to get their once in a lifetime collector's item. But even then, comics were a niche hobby.
So no. Comics were never mainstream, and they still aren't. As I tried to imply in my last post, it's the MCU that has mainstream profitability, but the comics only get the scrutiny that comes with it.
Comics were super mainstream, but you have to consider the demographics of the market. The primary market for comics was kids; you had a secondary market with older readers and some genre offerings, like romance, targeted to them, but the main market was kids.
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Captain Marvel was selling 3 million copies regularly in the 40s, EC stuff sold two million copies regularly, the reason why I put mainstrean betweeen quotations is because comics are a medium in themselves, the mainstream and underground qualifications can only arise inside it, not about it as a medium.
The decline in popularity comes from the direct marketing becoming the only place to get these books. Once you start to sell stuff like wimpy kid and those girl detective books on Barnes & Noble, almost miraculously comic sales start to rise again.
Marvel not publishing a single readable comic in a decade helped.