The Dark Age of Cartoons

I dunno I stopped watching American cartoons around 2011

Fuck flash. Traditional cels or nothing.

since fucking forever man
there's a reason why manga and anime are doing so well

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

Been that way since Avatar back in 2005.
Read this.

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there can't be a flash cartoon that looks better than cels can there

That's not a statement, user, that's a question.

What good cartoons make you think it didn't start spiraling in 2003?
Hot many good cartoons / year must there be for it to be a good year?
Green Lanter was good. Spectacular Spider-man was good. Avatar was good. I'm not sure that they saved their respective years from being garbage

Uhhh...

The start date is 2006, the peak is 2009 and it remains shit to this day.

Stop poisoning the well of conversation with your half truths Famicom. It wasn’t just TMS that saved animation from 1988-2005~ and some of the shows you list as a “return to the dark ages” like ATLA and Symbionic Titan don’t belong there, they were lights in the darkness.

You’ve prevented people from actually understanding what went wrong for years, and soured anybody from being able to appreciate TMS. Fuck yourself.

>>American cartoons went into a downward spiral in 2009 and have generally been shit since 2013?
That was a high point for cartoons honestly. They were willing to try new things and there was lots of cool stuff coming out. The dark age is the fucking Squirrel Boy/Johnny Test years.

I know Test continued into the good years but it wasn't as culturally relevant then.

The “new renaissance” isn’t real. New shows came out, that’s all. Nothing to touch what happened from 1988-2006. Calling it a new golden age is extremely regressive. 2010 was not good enough.

They wen't, Avatar was extremely juvenile while SBT was as dull & boring as fuck.
I supposed next you're going to defend The Life & Times of Tim and Big Mouth as well.
Also the original version had John K stuff in it but after the pedo shit his part was cut and Jon McClenahan's part made no sense without John K's part.
Also some of the shows in the TMS part came as early as 1981.

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>extremely juvenile
Fuck yourself, Famicom, you plotfag fucktard.

>John K. is a pedo so his contributions don’t count!!!!1!
Absolute monogloid. Your version of history is bullshit. Fuck yourself.

>John K. is a pedo
Don’t you jerk off to the girl from Hamtaro?

Read deviantart.com/famihamu64/journal/An-apology-to-some-drama-I-went-going-through-762676734

Also lolis are not real girls but it's still best to avoid any sexual stuff at all costs, even if they're over 18.
Real legal women only and only after marriage, never do waifus, they will warp your life, badly I might add.

>random ass frame from Hamtaro in the "shread of hope" spot
You're a card!

So you're finally admitting that you're Famicom from Toonzone?

Oh fuck OFF Famicom,.

He’s a famous autist on the level of WITCHfag that has been here for years pushing his shit opinions and autistic delusions into his own alternate history he tries to convince people of. He’s pretty much removed the ability for anybody to talk about the good TMS actually DID bring to animation on television with his autism.

More female characters need to be drawn like that.

He's like 40 and this is the kind of shit he draws

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If you want good drawing of female characters please go over to Yea Forums and support KyoAni in their hour of need.

29, not 40 and people do want a SiIvaGunner series.

kill yourself

I mean I want more pronounced asses like that and not just the same stock female body literally everyone draws for shows.

Always, no, sometimes think it's me
But you know I know when it's a dream
I think, er, no, I mean, er, yes
But it's all wrong
That is I think I disagree

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Thats sexist, women are not objects, they're people and thats the reason why Aikatsu will always be better then Space Dandy, the female characters always keep their close on in Aikatsu.

There is literally nothing wrong with drawing sexually attractive characters.

Except to will case harm to actual women and brainwash them to thinking that they're worthless unless they're objects.

you are right, same faces are good when they are beautiful, I mean, why fix what is not broken?

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So you believe we should ban acts that we don’t consider OK in real life from art? No violent video games, movies, cartoons or anything then?

I mean what if a kid thinks it’s OK to blow someone up with a stick of dynamite?

Dynamite, like anvils are not easy for a kid to get, plus those cartoons use rubber for their matter.

What if he thinks slapping is OK? Getting his dad’s gun and playing elmer fudd? Hammers and mallets?

You’re not weaseling out of this one, prude bitch. Either you think a cartoon will “magically brainwash otherwise sane people” or you don’t.

I repeat: there is literally nothing wrong with drawing attractive characters, if you disagree, you are a soccermom who thinks harry potter will turn her kids into satan worshippers.

>Simpsons did it.
You have a point there.

Came here for shitposting replies

>but every now and then, there is a shread of hope so never give up hope, we might get another animation renaissance if we hope hard enough
>right above (and implied to be said by) a fucking literally who loli

i am livid
fucking weeaboos

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It’s just Famicom, a resident autist pedophile. Ignore or simply tell him to fuck off.

He's not into that anymore.
deviantart.com/famihamu64/journal/An-apology-to-some-drama-I-went-going-through-762676734

What the hell

Go away, TMSfag

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I remember that

I know the action scenes were hand drawn, but the talking bits were done in Flash and they still look great

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I hope this post isn't insinuating that The Loud House is an exception to that rule

that shit never aired in the USA in any form

you can do frame by frame animation in flash without tweening or rigging

>shit

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Meant

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The Loud House is one of the reasons why the industry went to shit as all it is is just awful, 1D characters, predicable plots, abysmal timing and posing, unneeded morals that have not been seen since the 70s, episodes that make Coal Black and All This and Rabbit Stew look like modern day progression and vomit worthy designs.

If you want something done right go watch Cocotama and/or the Fruits Basket reboot (don't bother with the original), you will thank me later.

you forgot music arrangement and SFX arrangement that gets more unlistenable over time

>not liking The Kino House

This, listening to Caul Stalling, Milt Franklyn and Richard Stone's music and studying their music is a requirement before writing music to a cartoon.
And for the love of Tex never use a stock music track from a library and only uses those trace for bits and pieces for the episode, always wright your own music for the show itself, use it only for that episode and always have the music play through out the whole episode, preferable with a 30+ piece orchestra.

This has been gone over in the past, Rita Loud is so ugly that it makes Korra look like Asami she's that ugly.

Where the fuck are their noses?

There so small they're either dots or con't be seen.

There so small they're either dots or they can't be seen.

Sure, but it wouldn’t be a flash cartoon.

>cartoons went into a downward spiral when I became a teenager and became shit when I grew up?

SpongeBob uses stock music but it has plenty of original cues
The Mighty B uses stock music but even then it has it's own original composed cues
The Loud House's music soundtrack is so fucking repetitive. I've heard the same track like 40 times in 1 episode

Spongebob alongside Rocko and Ren & Stimpy are the exceptions not the rule, stock music almost never works in cartoons otherwise.

Welcome to another day of Yea Forums being worthless to this site in general..... MODS.

What rule?

There is no age referenced there... are you psychic?

NOISY DOMICILE BAD
ROCK LESBIANS GOOD

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It's not just cartoons but the whole spectrum of western fiction and culture as a whole has imploded, or rather was murdered.

Both of them are bad.

Case in point, read this.

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Fuck off Famicom.

All because of one mantra and one alone:
ESCAPISM BAD
POLITICS GOOD

You could make a good case that that's the root cause.

I disagree but I don't agree we're in some kind of golden age either. You would only have that point of view if you had the most lax taste in the world for cartoons.

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Have you tried watching a good cartoon instead of bitching?

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Here are some masterpieces.
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dailymotion.com/video/x6gpck4
dailymotion.com/video/x2lfnwn
dailymotion.com/video/x3f26u0

OP's talking about current cartoons. Thunderbirds is. Those aren't.

Haha, do you think she would lick herself if she became a cat? Haha, and what if she hacked up hairballs? Haha.

Current you say...
crunchyroll.com/fruits-basket
This right now is the only one bothering with current wise.

i can't believe john k was famicom all along

>Famicom = 29 years old.
>John K = 63 years old.
Those are 2 different people, plus John will never defend Tiny Toons & Animaniacs.

so appearantly TMSfag is now into WITCH or what? I can't keep up with Laura lore

No, 2 different people.

That's pretty obviously John K's blog

It’s obviously an edit of John K.’s blog you massive newfaggot. The original post had FLCL and shit.

Protip, if someone uses Hamtaro as a positive example, it’s 99% Famicom.

Dang, what a downgrade :(

>He does not know about Hamtaro's fanbase.
The edits were done to make it much more PC, plus the projects in the edit are much better then what was in the original.

Fuck off Famicom.

fuck off Famicom