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History of the marvel universe preview
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Aaron Wood
I wonder if Hickman returning had influence on this setup
Leo Campbell
Robert Stewart
Mason Roberts
Noah Mitchell
This is amazing and is exactly what i expected it to be.
Isaiah Baker
Those last living particles, are they Mr. Immortal and Bruce Banner?
Mason Evans
so mr imortal and oldman hulk are the last two i take it
Aiden Moore
This will never sell a million
Cooper Brooks
>another nu-Marvel infodump and lowkey retcon comic
Not interested
Connor Kelly
Marvel 1000 is the one that is suppose to sell a million not this.
Parker Hill
Neat.
Why is Mr. Immortal immortal anyway?
Nathan Gray
Pretty sure Shogun still didn't revealed the book he was referring to
Brody Sanchez
It was meant to be Henry Abrams Spider-Man but after the tepid reception the honorable Shogun was forced to walk it back.
Gabriel Thompson
Nah, everyone knew that wasn't going to make more than the huge cornerstone issue.
Leo Morris
>already ignoring Ewing's origin
Fuck this shit, but I'll buy it anyways.
Andrew Gutierrez
They didnt.
Colton Gutierrez
History of this universe not the multiverse
Jeremiah Hughes
>already ignoring Ewing's origin
Based, fuck that hack.
Dylan Rodriguez
>already ignoring Ewing's origin
God damn, peepee stings.
Nathaniel Lewis
>already ignoring Ewing's origin
Zoomy zoom zoom!
Lincoln Peterson
He's gonna be what triggers the next big bang, starting another universe.
Isaac Phillips
>Why is Mr. Immortal immortal anyway?
he's HOMO SUPREME, evolved beyond Death.
Brody Johnson
>already ignoring Ewing's origin
I have no strong opinions on this in any way.
Christian Moore
Origin of the 616 universe, not the multiverse.
Grayson Ramirez
No they aren't.
Joseph Ward
bump
Colton Nguyen
When Earth-616 ends, it marks the end of the 8th cosmos.
Ryan Martinez
I bet Hulk and Mr. Immortal are having a good time.
Mason Carter
I'm still pretty surprised that of all the Marvel characters, Marvel think that the only two immortals are Hulk and Mr Immortal... Absorbing Man is pretty much immortal, Juggernaut is pretty much immortal (even more than Hulk), all the Elders are immortal, etc.
Kayden Anderson
but mr immortal has immortal in his name, that makes him extra immortal.
Luis Lewis
First: said where?
Second: if you were talking about what happens in IH you shouldn't have used the word "origin", assuming it was you who made that post.
Anyways, re-read what Franklyn says.
Easton Parker
They aren't the only immortals, this same preview mentions the Elders being that way too.
They are the only ones left
Carter Stewart
Well Franklin did say "a few" it could be more than those two
Elijah Butler
Caregiver is her name marvunapp.com
Michael Howard
Xavier Ramirez
Can somebody please upload the preview for the next "Secret Warps - Arachknight Annual", please?
Sebastian Cook
Fuck Ewing bullshit retcons. You people need stop sucking his dick so much. Damn sickening to read.
Cameron Cruz
Shit I thought I was the only one. Yeah, fuck the arrogant asshole.
Josiah Sullivan
I don't see it anywhere yet so will probably have to wait two days when they all come out
Evan Nelson
I like this, giving structure to the universe, now if only people can stop over the universe more bullshit cosmic entities that top each other every year.
Juan Garcia
this is autism the comic and I’m so here for it
Jason Collins
That's everything Ewing writes
Luis Carter
It's in a website called "Monkeys Fighting Robots", but I can't access it. I don't know why.
Gavin Clark
Shut the fuck up, you little bitches. Ewing is the only one to give 2 shits about comics Marvel enough improve upon it.
Isaac Thompson
About half of this shit will be dedicated to all the times that Dr Le Doom became Le Omnipotent.
Such good writing.
Nolan Baker
>he's HOMO SUPREME
Ha, gaaaaaaaaaaaaay.
Andrew Evans
bump
Adrian Murphy
>fuck the arrogant asshole
He's anything BUT arrogant, in fact he's been apologetic about his OCs before, to the point he simplified a lot of things in Royals because most readers seemed not to like the craziest stuff in Ultimates for being too complex, given its low sales (which Royals also had, regardless).
Oh wait let me guess, you're blocked from his Twitter?
Luis Adams
These ignoramuses will never learn to separate art from the artist.
Juan Bell
The fact that this acknowledges Eon and his role in the universe makes me happy. Quasar doesn't get the proper love he/they deserve.
I'll do it.
Ethan Roberts
I'm pretty hype over this issue, not gonna lie. Uploading a better quality picture of the cover than the one in the preview, whose quality is ass.
Xavier Cook
William Smith
Landon Ortiz
This is actually a spread page, so... 1/2.
Thomas Wilson
2/2.
The ear puns and jokes are off the hook.
Lincoln Martinez
>replicating the Pitt Calamity on a global scale, Hawkmask
The madman, he's gonna do it again.
Robert Taylor
... Or not? Guess we'll find out next week.
End of preview.
Joseph Carter
>Hyperbrand
I know it's obvious to say these fusions are OP, but this just seems like serious overkill.
This dialog must've been irritating to write for as it was to read
Landon Green
What is he talking about? The White Event from New Universe or what?
Anyway, thanks a lot, pal. I expected more info in the preview, but I guess it was to ask too much.
Funny thing, we are going to see one "Batman" (Arachknight) fighting a whole "Justice League" with his own "Batman" (Hawkmask).
Nolan Garcia
Hi, Tommy.
Jace Howard
Never really been much into Moon Knight, and I agree. Having multiple personalities and on top of that, having each of them being a different variety of Spidey quipper must grind one's gears.
>The White Event from New Universe or what?
No, in the New Universe there was another huge phenomenon called The Pitt, which sorta started the beginning of the end of the New Universe imprint (for several reasons outside the comic).
It happened by accident: It was established that the Star Brand could be transferred from a body to another by simply placing it onto someone's skin, or even move it around that way. So Kenneth one day, when he was tired of having all that power, decided to get rid of it before it was too late for him (he was turning into a monstrosity). But he couldn't transfer the power without getting a residue in him and he didn't want someone else having to carry that burden, so he decides to transfer it onto a barbell, as he had never attempted that before and didn't know the consequences...
Well, what happened next was a huge, Hiroshima-level explosion that destroyed the entirety of Pittsburgh, and came to be known as "The Pitt" since it left a huge dome-shaped crater.
Isaiah Gomez
... And basically, this happens. The blast is bigger than he expected given the Star Brand's immense power, consuming the entire city under him.
Ian Scott
Thanks a lot for the explaining, Rodstvow. Now, I wonder where the "calamity" part comes, I suppose from a part of the Squadron Supreme.
Anyway, you know something else funny? I thought the idea of merging Spider-Man and the Moon Knight was stupid, especially because the whole "identity crisis" inside his head from Moon Knight. But then I realized, IT ACTUALLY WORKS!!! You see, because Peter also had his own "Identity Crisis", and his four personalities could represent that:
+ "The Knight": Dusk, dark and gloomy.
+ "Science Peter": Hornet, scientific brainy.
+ "Mr Parker": Prodigy, the serious adult with some ego problems.
+ "Friendly Spider": Ricochet, the bouncing prankster.
Brandon Nelson
I'll be paying just to see Javier Rodriquez continue to deliver stuff like this
Jayden Wright
>Now, I wonder where the "calamity" part comes, I suppose from a part of the Squadron Supreme.
Possibly, unfortunately the Squadron Supreme stuff I've read is mostly from 616, not the stuff Gruenwald wrote in their series. It's been long overdue.
>Peter also had his own "Identity Crisis", and his four personalities could represent that:
This is good, I never considered it but it makes sense. I figured it would be closer to Moon Knight's own personalities, and not Peter's.
Grayson Powell
not as much as Waid and Tommy B
Dylan Russell
That's the thing about this "Mergiverse". Sometimes you need to go "deeper" to see the connections.
Also, I believe how this arc will end. I believe the Soul Gem will free the whole "Mergiverse" on its own plane, being as real as any other "alternative Earth". I believe this will be "Earth-308", because 308 is the half of 616.
Andrew Morales
>First: said where?
Not him but I figure he'a alluding to Ewing's Ultimates. Also I've always figured Adventures of the X-Men #12 is also an unofficial key issue in Marvel's cosmology.
Ryan Edwards
>I believe this will be "Earth-308", because 308 is the half of 616.
That's a great possibility, user. I am surprised they didn't name it this when it started, but I guess there's still time.
Hah yes, it's no surprise in retrospect that Brevoort asked Ewing to plot the whole of Marvel Comics #1000. He probably used (and abused) his continuity-fu to craft an insane story.
>Also I've always figured Adventures of the X-Men #12 is also an unofficial key issue in Marvel's cosmology.
Someone did say Brevoort considered that issue as "non-canon", but the beginning of this series already contradicts that by alluding to the events that brought the Phoenix Force into 616, a byproduct of the collapse of the previous universe that looked just like the current, but iterated onto the same events.
Gavin Bennett
What's wrong with the OG origin here? And what's so great about Ewing's
Sebastian Sanchez
Nothing, but Ewing's origin was vast in sweeping changes and additions so it would feel dumb just to leave it out.
Carson Martin
That user was confused, there's nothing at all being ignored. Ewing plotted the origins of the Cosmos as a whole, from the First Firmament to the Eight Multiverse (described here ), while this miniseries begins with the beginning of the 616 Universe, and it does so by stating Galactus crossed over from a "previous dying reality", which lines up with what Ewing already did (which by the way, he only picked up from previous stuff).
I'm guessing a lot of it would've confused new readers, or this goes by the assumption that even Galactus isn't aware of how vast it all is.
John Adams
What is this "Mergiverse" you doth speak of?
Brandon Sanchez
The whole Infinity Warps thing that Gamora did with the stones didn't just create one universe where everyone got merged, it created an entire multiverse of realities
That's where this Squadron Seven come from, another reality within the Soul Stone
Eli Ramirez
>History of the Marvel universe
>universe
Isn’t that kinda redundant now there’ve been multiverses and shit?
Also is it wrong that I’m actually, literally indifferent to Ewing? I like his work but that’s it, it’s not mindblowing or anything, I just think it’s kinda neat which is still a good compliment for comics these days but still.
Anyway for what it’s worth, Immortal Hulk has a previewed issue about the 9th Cosmos trembling so. Cheer up I guess, Ewing’s history lessons still seem to be canon?
Jose Martinez
I prefer the old stuff to this
James Cox
>Ewing’s history lessons still seem to be canon?
There's already this screencap Javier Rodríguez shared months ago teasing this project (while it was still unknown), where you can clearly see a Progenitor from Ewing's Royals, so clearly nothing is being ignored and instead acknowledged.
I didn't share it before because I didn't want to seem militant about it, but I was well aware Waid was taking his contributions into account.
Also it's fine not to worship writers, user. A lot would rather that than to get the hatred from rabid fanboys.
What "old stuff"? The iterations of the cosmos weren't invented by Ewing.
Xavier Smith
Good, and good. I’m kind of a picky fucker, I reserve outright fanboying for things on the level of Carey’s Lucifer, the original Books of Magic run and All-Star Superman. Even stuff like Promethea doesn’t make the cut for me because even though it’s gorgeous, it devolves into Moore’s anarchy/occultism soapbox instead of exploring more what an imaginary friend superheroine could get up to.
Anyway, I like big cosmologies myself, so I’ve got nothing to be upset about either way.
Jacob Howard
I've read the spider-knight miniseries. Should I read the whole series or just come in to this issue ?
Jeremiah Ross
This is the old stuff.
Nathan James
You should at least read the othet three annuals that came before this since they are part of the same story that leads to what happens to AK in this issue.
Luis Perez
These "annuals" are half the Secret Warps story (that issue would be Part 4) and half a self-contained story revolving around the titular character. You can jump right in though, you can get the gist of the story as it develops, but I recommend checking the rest anyway.
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Jason Gray
>Nemesis behind the gems
Waid you cheeky nerd.
Brody Flores
I'm friends with some people who have worked with Marvel in the past and every single one says Brevoort is the biggest genuine comic nerd they've ever met
Caleb Parker
what are the chances theres a Malibu reference
Jacob Taylor
Nemesis is in the background of the third page
Chase Reyes
nice