Holland isn't the original Peter Parker in his universe. No mention of Uncle Ben, Stark seems obsessed with him, and JJ Jamieson (who already hates spidey for some reason) is literally the same actor from the Raimi movies but BALD . Also note that none of the Raimi villains have been reused. MCU isn't in another dimension from Raimiverse, it's the same. It's just that a lot of time has passed. At some point Tobey calls it quits and starts a normal life. Meanwhile Holland is a clone created by Osborn that Stark rediscovers. Raimi spiderman 1 was in 2002. Guess when Holland spidey was canonically born? 2001. Not far off. And Tobey also could have been cloned before he got his powers (pre-2001) simply because Norman wanted to preserve what he thought to be the DNA of a savant.
Also note that Holland, who is a bit of a loose lips kind of guy, wants a movie where all the Spidermen meet up. Well, that's impossible for Garfield since Sony hates him. So expect a Tobey/Holland team up flick.
Anyways now that we've decoded this mystery, who's ready for a 5-movie adaptation of the Clone Saga? Maybe Holland is Ben Reilly.
Raimi Spider-Man uses One More Day to erase everyone's memory of the original Spider-Man
Jayden Foster
How do you explain Aunt May
Aaron Hernandez
>Well, that's impossible for Garfield since Sony hates him. So expect a Tobey/Holland team up flick. ??
Zachary Butler
I like this idea But what was Tobey!Peter up to from 2007 all the way to 2023?
Gavin Edwards
>There had been rumours from 2015 that suggested Garfield had in fact been fired by Sony from Spider-Man, following an alleged dispute with-then Sony chief Kaz Hirai over a special promotional event. The event in question was set to take place in Brazil, where The Amazing Spider-Man 3 was reportedly set to be confirmed, but Garfield ducked out, with sickness the given reason.
Brody Collins
Oscorp's employee that grew fond of nuPete
Chase Rodriguez
Well OP, looks like you have an explaination for everything. I believe you.
Owen Peterson
oh, i read that as tobey, not sony my bad
Thomas Edwards
Raising a family in Portland.
Kevin Bell
Will this end with a reborn Defoe Gobbo lynching Spidey's diverse menagerie of classmates? If so, I'm on board 100%.
Chase Barnes
Make it happen Feige
Elijah Taylor
Dumb as shit theory.
Matthew White
This is why they shouldn't have brought JK Simmons back, fucking hell
Isaac Gonzalez
>born in 2001 Christ I’m old
Bentley Sullivan
Seeing how sony is stupid to do this, i expect them hiring raimi back.
Also Disney is losing the arm wrestling in keeping MCU relevant after Endgame
Adrian Reyes
I think it's a bit early to call that, the next few movies might be make or break though.
Aiden Carter
What a stupid ass idea. I love it.
Tyler Sanders
OK then explain that "Dr. Strange" reference from Spider-Man 2.
Gavin Morales
>Also Disney is losing the arm wrestling in keeping MCU relevant after Endgame kek
Grayson Bell
>Strange In the MCU Strange is a neurosurgeon with a long career of many accolades and successes, globally renowned as of 2014 (Winter Soldier). Going by the depth of his career and his physical characteristics, I'd say he's close to Stark in age (mid-late 40s). Let's call it 42. SM2 was in 2004, 10 years earlier. This would put him at 32 at the time of SM2, which is enough for him to have a established a practice (and since he's so intelligent, even for a neurosurgeon, he might have been able to make a name for himself very quickly at least in NY).
Caleb Wright
Sony hates Tobey too, actually all of Hollywood hates Tobey
Aaron Clark
>Also Disney is losing the arm wrestling in keeping MCU relevant after Endgame Interesting proposition. Please explain your reasoning behind this statement
Angel Stewart
Hollywood entity also hates RDJ and Mel GIbson
Julian Price
I don't think they hate RDJ anymore. That was pre-Avengers.
Everybody who works with Tobey has said he's an asshole which is why he hasn't really been in much. Didn't even go in the indie low-budget route like Garfield
Jack Nguyen
Based
Matthew Rivera
How do you explain there being two Betty Brants and Flash Thompson’s?
Charles Phillips
Thompson is the son of the original, Brant probably related to the original, could be a coincidence.
Benjamin Walker
More than one person can have the same name
Andrew Nelson
The school is owned by the Jackal.
Carter Thompson
Absolutely this, its integral to the upcoming Maximum Clonage arc
Elijah Anderson
>Spider-Man 3 >Peter is chatting with Nick Fury who casually snarks at Peter about getting bitten by a radioactive spider >Peter is briefly confused, not understanding the reference >Played off as a joke but Fury is visibly disturbed >Post-credits, Nick busts into Peter's room late at night with a stack of photos, holding one up of Peter and an old man posing out on a lake with a caught fish, grills Peter on who this man is >Peter has no clue >"It's your Uncle Ben." >Nick tells him all about how his death inspired Peter to become a hero, and Peter's completely confused about what all this stuff he has no memory of is about. >Nick pulls another photo. >"Mysterio said that passages to other worlds had opened, that foreign entities were slipping into our world. He was lying... but he wasn't wrong. You're NOT Peter Parker. Hell..." >The photo is of a completely different-costumed Spider-Man swinging across New York >"You're not even Spider-Man."
Ryder Clark
lmao fucking chuds believing this shit, far from home just passed 800 million and GOTG 3, Captain Marvel 2, Thor 4 and the inevitable x men and FF movies will probably beat that.
This idea is fucking retarded and makes me glad no one on Yea Forums has authority on anything
Jordan Morales
>Spider-Men movie is actually a mash up of OMD from Maguire's point of view leading into Clone Saga from Holland's point of view I'd watch the fuck out of that honestly
Colton Sanchez
That would be insane, please make it happen.
Xavier Wood
Do you think its time for the raimi meme to die and for everyone to admit that the movies arent as good as everyone blinded by nostalgia believes they are?
Same explanation as the reference in Winter Soldier, he was famous for being a neurosurgeon, remember?
Kayden Rivera
I've always wanted to blow up my neurosurgeon.
Camden Ramirez
1+2 still haven't been bested in the realm of spiderman movies
Jaxson Davis
That's because you're a brainlet
Evan Foster
what superhero films top spidey 1+2?
Ian Wilson
Honestly Spider-Verse is on level with them.
And legitimate question, what goes through people's minds when they say this ? Are they going through a period in their life of rejecting childhood fun? Is the campiness no longer part of the charm to them?
Charles Miller
Thor ragnarok imo
Jaxon Adams
Haven't seen spiderverse yet, I should really get on that
Luis Butler
they don't hold up
Jose Butler
spider-verse is better then them but only with the support from them. it's an interestingly meta movie but probably the best spidey film we'll have for awhile
Isaiah Nguyen
How did he survive the train collision? All videos on jewtube only show him getting hit but not what happens afterwards.
Sometime before the events of Spider-Man: 1983: Peter Parker is born. 1988: Richard and Mary Parker die in a plane crash leaving their son, Peter, in the custody of his aunt and uncle, May and Ben. Peter believes that his parents were secret agents killed by a super-villain like "the Red Skull" in order to accept their deaths (Spider-Man novelization by Peter David). Mary Jane Watson and her family move in next door to the Parker's. Peter Parker meets Harry Osborn and they become friends. Mary Jane Watson enters a relationship with Flash Thompson.
During the Films 2002: Events of Spider-Man 2004: Events of Spider-Man 2 2005: Events of Spider-Man 3
Kayden Roberts
Please tell me you're joking nigga
Alexander Lopez
>implying >BUT MUH CAMP You clearly have never watched any other Raimi movies if this bothers you.
Oliver Carter
And here is what was going on in the MCU at the time of 2002-2005:
Strongly disagree, I think it holds up as well as Jaws or Star Wars. It simply comes from a different time, nothing on the technical side of filmmaking or story (apart from romance subplots) seems to be dated to me.
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Tyler King
Macguire and Holland don't look similar enough for that to be true.
Anthony Jackson
because it's not true
Landon Lopez
They’ll do spiderverse eventually, so they’ll bring back either Andrew or Toby
Isaac Long
I hope you stretched before that reach
Samuel Roberts
Kids never look like their parents in 99% of hollywood films, as long as they fit the high level description (white, brown hair) you're already batting better than the other casting directors. Same goes for clones obviously.
Landon Butler
>Spider-Man 4/5: Something Something Home >movie starts with Holland dreaming up cheesy 2005-esque gigantic battle against [big threat here] >a Spider-Man (in a familiar suit) helps out the Sorcerer Supreme (then Sorceress Supreme) >he takes a few too many hits during the battle, barely makes it out >Bald Chick offers to help him heal with magic >Spider-Man declines, asks for help with something else instead >Holland wakes up with a "That dream again?" >Holland goes to Strange and asks about the ordeal >some kind of magic memory lock bullshit >Strange undoes it >he suddenly remembers a Spider-Man before Holland, along with most of the world >the only one unaffected is JJ, who never forgot >a scene of the unidentified Spider-Man suiting up (no face), now that the world remembers, to go talk to Strange >gets cut off mid-swing by a portal straight into the sanctum >takes off his mask to ask what happened >it's Tobey >retread the clone saga with Holland being Ben Reilly >after the Jackal plot is over, have Strange magic up a portal to another world, that never had a Peter Parker >Tobey tells Holland he would be honored if he continued to be Peter in his place, as his time as Spider-Man is over There you go. Pleases and disgusts both Holland and Maguire fans.
Grayson Roberts
Based tobey would do that
Ethan Lopez
I like Spider-Man 2 a lot but Spider-Man 1 is kinda just "good" for me these days.
Also it really bothers me when people say the Raimi "trilogy" is good as whole because not even Raimi wanted the SM3 we got on screen. It made him so depressed to make because of all the executive interference and bullshit that he just left it altogether that I almost feel like it's an insult to like it. SM3 was not his vision.
Kevin Richardson
"Based Tobey" doesn't want to do Spidey anything anymore. Only way you're getting in the suit is if Feige rolls up to his house with a truck of money for a Spider-Men/Verse movie with Garfield
Nicholas Kelly
I meant Tobey Peter would have passed the torch on like that
Levi Russell
I think SM3 clearly shows what Raimi cared and didn't care about based on how well they were handled. It's more interesting as an entire production rather than just the film itself. Take Cloverfield, for example- an average movie made even better by the surrounding ARG and lore. In the same way it's interesting to watch Spider-Man 3 with contextual knowledge of what went wrong where as well as analyzing the stories and themes Raimi actually did want to tell that slipped through. And for me, that gives the film enough value to like it while acknowledging it's not up to par and fucked Sam up for a bit.
The actress hired to play Aunt May by Osborn, but OMD had contingencies in spell that warped everyone's minds around the lack of Spider-Man so that their lives made sense even if they had been effected by Spider-Man somehow. But without Spider-Man her whole LIFE made no sense at that point, so the spell just made her forget that she was ever anyone else and made her fall entirely into the role. It was the simplest solution for a spell that had a LOT to deal with and wants you to get off its back about it.
Lucas Lopez
>Hey Tony, remember that really old movie with the two identical skyscrapers that got crashed into with planes? >... Pete, are you talking about 9/11?
Levi Morgan
Which is why the principal is a clone of a Howling Commando from WWII!
Tyler Lewis
Hydra wanted to blow up anyone their AI predicted might mess with their NWO. There are a million reasons a wealthy and famous person who has trouble with authority would fit that bill.
Jonathan Cook
He's Spider-Man you cunt. He could benchpress that train.
Christian Phillips
It's a clone of Spider-Man... but not a clone of Peter Parker.
>Finally saw new Spidey movie Aunt May has no business having an ass look that good in jeans, wtf is this timeline. Fuck, I don't blame Happy smashin that...