Sings a whole song about how there are no cats in america

Now I have to correct myself again, because he was involved in the production, but not enough to appear as a major player for producing, writing, directing, or anything?

But his name's on the poster, why would these sources not highlight him and instead put him at the very bottom as EP.

Whatever, Wikipedia and IMDB.

Some American cats are fine

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Are.. Are the streets at least paved with cheese?

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no

I'm afraid not, but the girls really are prettier.

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Even if they were it’d probably be gross neon yellow american cheese

“I came to America because I heard the streets were paved with gold. When I got here, I found out three things: first, the streets weren't paved with gold; second, they weren't paved at all; and third, I was expected to pave them.”

-Ellis Island immigrant

Is that a real quote?

Did they ever specify where this takes place or is America just assumed

>immigrants expecting gold streets and not having to get jobs
Classic

>THERE ARE NO CATS IN AMERICA
>have the shit beaten out of you by gangs of Know-Nothings as you get off the boat in the North
>have a cross burned on your lawn by Klansmen in the South
>get scalped by bloodthirsty Indians who attack all light-skinned people on sight in the West
>have your precious Tanya get pimped, raped, and passed around San Francisco opium dens until she's pregnant or dead and tossed out on the street

Man, this movie really does downplay the rampant racism and brutality that was everyday life in 19th Century America

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Wait a minute, this guy was just a mouse version of Tevye from Fiddler On The Roof, wasn't he?

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Well they're mice

>I don't see no Americans. I see trespassers, Irish harps. Do a job for a nickel what a nigger does for a dime and a white man used to get a quarter for. What have they done? Name one thing they've contributed.
>Votes? Votes, you say? They vote how the archbishop tells them, and who tells the archbishop? Their king in the pointy hat what sits on his throne in Rome.

How did Scorsese manage to make more historically accurate kino that was superior by virtually every metric?

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American mice are hot

Fuck You!

better than the first one

You see this knife? I'm gonna teach you to speak English with this fucking knife!

This one character made Gangs of New York better than all three American Tail movies and Schindler's List put together

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He didn't know and believed the hype about America. Really, its why a lot of immigrants came to New York in that era.

They're paved with the skulls of the slaves who died building them and every house has a banner proclaiming the Superiority of the White Race

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I agree that he's a great character, its just that you're a forced meme cock sucker

New England and the Midwest weren't built by slavery

So we're black people better than Irish?

Nowadays refugees are being told Paris is sprayed with perfumes every day.

>Feminine Victorian style is one of my weakness
>Love anthro females, specially rodent ones
Bridget, such an underrated creature...

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>the were Russians
They were Jews escaping the Russian pogroms.

>Scorsese's worst film
>kino
Actually...

Just indentured servitude, which was essentially slavery built on class instead of race.

Because he's a jew.

No

It was a happy medium. Immgrants came here thinking it was a paradise where the streets were paved with gold and nobody had to work and there was no persecution or racism of any kind, all not remotely true obviously.

But it was still a better life than what they had at home in war torn or dicator controlled countries.

It's like how the American dream is anyone can become a self made millionare. It's technically true, anyone theorectically can and even the poorest immigrants have pulled it off but 99 percent don't come close.

Is there art of Gadget in Victorian dress?

Well, theyre both Russian Jews (Tevye actually lives in a slightly later time period) but I don't think you can draw any greater parallels than that.

>Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
- paraphrase of John Steinbeck by Ronald Wright

I don't know any, the other Victorian anthro female I know is Mrs. Hudson (but she is a dog)

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Cats were a metaphor for Bolsheviks and Secret Police.

If I were a rich mouse!

Its an example of people that have naive views about how things will be much better if they achieve whatever situation without realizing the realities of it.

He didn't know, obviously. He'd have been right before Columbus, at least (depending how one counts bobcats, lynxs, etc)

Have you even seen the film?

Should ask for some in the Drawthread.

Idk about the people who went to Ellis Island but my great grandfather came here to fight in WWI and was promised land and citizenship. He ended up raising my grandfather in a church and kicked him out for stealing a nickel. These guys got screwed big time.

Spielberg and Lucas would often involve themselves a lot in products, but would only ask to credit themselves as "Executive Producers", because of some weird relations they had with unions and guilds. According to Irvin Kershner, Lucas would de-facto direct the film but refuse credit.

They could at least fucking speak English and didn't blow everything up.

Compared to a hundred countries in the world, America is a paradise on earth.

No, the film seems to be set too early for that and I'm pretty sure an early scene has them working with human Cossacks so their almost certainly Czarist...

Anti-Catholic sentiment was huge in many parts of the US. It was even relevant as recently as the election of JFK as president and William Brennan to the supreme court...

Yeah it's definitely meant to be during the Russian Empire, the scene of cavalry burning down a snow-buried village in the middle of nowhere is more imperial than communist imagery.

Wrong century. The movie opens with a somewhat watered down version of a Cossack pogrom.

It's definitively set in 1885.

Maybe they should have stayed

I’m glad we live in such an enlightened time that we allow our slaves to illegally immigrate before we put them to work.

The cats were just a physical abstraction of hardship in general.

No, apparently it's based on the experiences of one of Steven Spielberg's ancestors...

New England, maybe, but indentured servitude was unlawful in most midwestern and heartland states from their founding

That poor Irish mouse

It's kind of like Gusteau's cooking philosophy from Ratatouille - not everyone can be a great cook, but any person with the talent, work ethic, and ambition has the potential to be. Likewise, not everyone born in or who comes to America can become a successful or self-made person, but it is an environment in which those with the talent, work ethic, and ambition to do so are generally encouraged rather than discouraged. The American Dream has historically been about supporting, embracing, and emulating the exceptional, whereas the modern progressive interpretation is more about accommodating the lowest common denominator.

Fuck socialism.

Modern sociological studies suggest that the US has a markedly low rate of social mobility - especially compared to the socialist countries that dominate the top positions

Upward mobility in the US has stalled over the last couple decades and that stall has been predominantly driven by the Baby Boomer generation. Most of the so-called 'socialist democracies' in Europe are in countries that had a weak boom or no boom at all after World War II like Sweden, Denmark, Belgium, the Netherlands, etc, whereas in countries like the US you have entire industries where Gen Xers and and Millenials are trapped in mobility limbo waiting for the now 55-60+ year old Boomers in management or executive positions to retire or die so that positions can finally start opening back up. Research and academia is no better - average time spent as a postdoc in most parts of the world during the 60s and 70s was one or two years, today in the US it's anywhere from three to six years depending on the field. I spent five years as a physics post-doc going from department to department getting passed over for a professorship position until an older faculty member at one of the institutions I worked for had a stroke and had to retire.

>so that positions can finally start opening back up.
Not guaranteed. Administrative bloat is very common and if a company figures they can roll multiple positions' responsibilities into one in the name of efficiency and cost savings they will do it.

It's simply flooding the market with labour so that labourers have no bargaining power, along with raising barriers to entry to cut out small businesses (a multinational conglomerate gets a better cost/unit ratio than some small scale shop due to economy of scale so they can still afford to pay a higher minimum wage, but small scale enterprise is forced out). It'll happen quickly in Europe now that they flooded the labour market,
Do you delusional socialists really think the fact that EVERY multinational is pushing the progressive message is because they, the rich, are your greatest ally in your fight against they, the rich? That Disney, Nike, etc. are the vanguard of the redistribution movement, desperately trying to take down the rich muiltinationals? Talk about useful idiots.

I thought they were Russian-Jews?

"Grass is Greener" mentality is a hell of a thing.
It's the sort of thinking that causes some said Americans to believe that Che Guevara or Hitler did nothing wrong.

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Shitty fumes emmitted from thirdworlders that is.

>that website is down

Is Sherlock Hound allowed?

Her tits are huge.

If he didnt have a 3 inch long schong, Mama would've left him ages ago.

>laughs into Decossackization

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More likely escaping justice.

Bloody Nicky certainly didn’t escape justice

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>there are no cats in america

KITTIED

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Was that related to the kid-raping, or did cathies start doing that later?

I agree, he got what was coming to him for allowing jews into universities.
They even shittalk him to his day despite being one of the most liberal tzars.

Catholics didn't start kid-raping until they allowed homos into the clergy. It's relatively new.
They were hated because of protestantism and because of the (correct) view that their allegiance was to Rome first. Same reason all xenophobes have always been correct about their views on migrant groups.

Because people told him there are no cats in American and he repeated it. How the fuck would he know?

>Catholics didn't start kid-raping until they allowed homos into the clergy. It's relatively new.

lmfao

Jews in Russia is my point.
They were both geographically and chronologically removed from the fear of Nazism, instead an earlier flavor of Antisemitism.

To think that chunk made me a legfag.

It's true. No joke out of the known cases 85% of all kid raping among the Catholicucks have been male on male even with stronger access to girls.
The priests who shielded them by moving them around dioceses were overwhelmingly known homosexuals who were caught blackmailing seminarians into sex and getting male prostitutes and cocaine in Rome itself among other things.
The straight pedos have mostly been in Africa and South America (notably a freakish cult-tier sect that Ratzinger stopped).

Also Ratzinger likely were forced to step down because he defrocked and sent to permanent house arrest too many of the pedos and homos, over 800 or so. (some of them were miraculously back among the clergy under Francis retinue, big surprise there.)

it was called "female form/female body" something we lost after the 90's in cartoons

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user, there are married men with kids who have molested boys. Molesting kids is not about sex, it's about power.

Despite explicit instructions from the Vatican in the 1960s that the Church should not be ordaining priests with "homosexual or other abnormal sexual tendencies", it's estimated that between 1955 and 2005, 10-20% of priests ordained by Catholic bishops were homosexual or had homosexual tendencies, and an article from the New York Times last February claims it may have been closer to 30-40%. The earliest published accounts of priests sexually abusing children in the US are from witnesses citing abuse that took place in the 60s and 70s. It was a problem then, and one which has only gotten worse with time.

Yes, and there are single women who have molested boys, and single men, and young men, and young women. Predators come in all shapes and sizes... that doesn't change the fact that homosexuals are more prone to pedophilia than heterosexuals. A 1992 report published in the Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy found an 11:1 ratio of homosexuals vs heterosexuals convicted of child molestation.

Yeah right. The magical power of turning a known homosexual into merely a pedophile after being caught out.
Ignoring of course that they have access to girls and didn't go after them or that their whole posse of defenders were adult homosexuals engaging in predatory practices on adult men yet somehow felt the need to defend male-on-male pedos as well.
>is not about sex, it's about power.
You know what?
Prove it.
Reproducible studies only.
Not some bullshit made-up by the same human science LGBT crew who were pushing pedophilia well into the 70s under the queer theory label.

For some depraved fucks, it is about the sex. Doesn't really matter either way, since it's fucked up regardless

He's technically right in an outdated sense. Cats are not native to the US and were brought over by the various Euros and become wild/bred a population into the continent.

>something we lost
More like grew out of.

Nice attempt at demonization. Sexual orientation is far more complex than the gender binary.

Not really, based on the scale of the hands they're B, *maybe* C cups. They're just exaggerated by her much slimmer waist. The average female waistline in 1950 was 27". Today it's pushing 39"

That used to literally happen because their sewage system basically didn't exist and the whole city stank of shit. They tried to compensate with perfume. Possibly still do.