MCU Kraven might be Wakandan

Well he's been dead for decades, otherwise he might be.

Kraven been dead for decades and was always a legit threat to BP when they fought on occasion. It’s just a case of who he fought first he got spidey in his sights because he’s the first nets who beat him

That’s not a bad choice

just wait for the third act twist where we find out he's a former employee of stark industries

Does BO not have any other villains beyond killmonger m baku and klaw?

>Wakanda Division

HES FUCKING RUSSIAN! FUCK YOU

Far from home, almost 1 billion at the box office
They put anything and always the same people will see

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>comicbook .com
fake

This and it’s kind of fucking racist. Kraven is a Hunter, not tribal

Disney won't allow Black Cat to be in an MCU film, she's too sexual in their eyes.

>Kraven might be Wakandan
Mehh, nowadays I'm only pissed about the Ancient One and Mordo, I don't even care anymore about these bunch of Goblinos in Spider Man

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Nope, him and Ant-Man are tied for shittiest Marvel rogues galleries.

I wouldn't mind if he was half Wakadan tbqh.

This isn't the worst change desu.

That said
>comibook.com
Come on son.

If this ends up being true, then he'll appear in Black Panther 2 first then play a major role in Spider-Man 3.

Black Panther also hunted the FF. Maybe they are too similar.

I would believe this.......
IF NOT FOR THE FACT THAT DIMITRI HIS HALF-BROTHER WAS IN FAR FROM HOME!

I'd be ok with that.

You kidding? They'll put her in and give her a personality and she will replace catwoman in the public normie conciousness

BP was caught up with Klaw

>personality
And now you tell me a MCU Spider-Man character with a developed personality

thought sony had the rights to kraven?
damn, i was really looking forward to a potential venom vs. kraven movie from sony

This

Seriously guys what are you fuckers doing believing in rumors from comicbook.com

yea personally kraven being white is emblematic of his character, he is a hunter, a conquerer, and wears african furs. he's a colonizer. it fits that hes a white.

It was just a guy named Dmitri, not the fucking Chameleon, you dumbasses.

Hell, he was probably a Skrull too.

Welcome to the party!

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Callled it

And im down with jt

I thought this board liked Mysterio.

Mysterio and Vulture were both great

Go back to /pol/

There was a racist hunter white guy in Black Panther, they probably didn't want to double him

Achebe's cool. I don't know why they haven't touched him.

Mysterio, vulture, peter, mj

.....Klaue? First of all, how was he racist, and second, he was an arms dealer not a hunter. That's some pretty fucked logic there.

I laughed.

They why did the first movie burn through three of them?

LAME.

part of the promise of the marvel universe is an expansive, marvellous universe.

it's pretty lame if everything ties back to wakanda or oscorp or stark.

this is pure 'i'm out of ideas' tier writing. hard pass.

hell, even if you make the guy black, making him wakandan just makes the world feel smaller. at the very least, have him come from a neighboring tribe.

totally lame.

Honestly his feats and skills are less remarkable if he was raised among the Wakanda people. It also makes his animal/nature theme seem mundane, since that's how all their warriors do that shit.

Wasn't he Australian in the Ultimate universe? How many nationalities can this guy get?

Kraven just used regular shit to great effect to fight heroes with remarkable abilities.
I don't fee like they could resit giving him vibranium tech if he's from Wakanda.
Make him black if you want, but keep him a hunter who can close the gap with skill and experience alone.

So you were against giving him animal DNA in Spectacular Spider-man?

I can see it working. Is it necessary? No, but it doesn't take away from his character either. Kraven is based no matter what skin color he is.

If he's going to be black DON'T make him Wakandan

Read a comic.

Yes.

They can spin it as Wakandan tribes using animal motifs to honor the animals' strength, while Kraven uses them as a symbol of the hunter's superiority out of spite for his tribe being wiped off Wakanda's history.

>user has no answer
>"R-r-read a c-comic!

Jeez, just don't post if you're going to embarrass yourself.

We've got fun and games

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His not being white and therefore not being comic-accurate. Just like Peter Parker being blonde would suck.

The jungle brings no more challenges to Kraven.

While I'd normally agree, the obvious reason to make him Wakandan is to tie him to Black Panther as well. They haven't done that many villains that cross over though, so I doubt they'd have Kraven show up as major villain in both Spiderman and Black Panther. Perhaps a minor villain in both, or major in a Spiderman movie with Black Panther as a guest.

They'll just change the costume like they did for Scarlet Witch.

>Satan
>Hates white people
Checks out.

It would ruin him because a giant part of his story is being a man from a wealthy family brought to ruin by populism, in his attempt to reclaim glory he becomes a mighty hunter. Finding that if he can’t be king of men he can be king of beast. It’s a very Russian way of thinking and a core part of what made the character interesting. So yes read a comic is an applicable answer to why should a comic book character retain his characteristics

>Finding that if he can’t be king of men he can be king of beast
Wouldn't that also be the same if he was from a lost tribe that could not rightfully challenge the king? It really sounds like you just proved yourself wrong, and no one else had to do anything but let you type.

I guess that's why you went with "Read a comic" first!

Why not just write a new character at that point if you’re going to change his ethnicity like that. I get you movie fags can’t read but at least attempt to look at the source material of the things you want to ruin

So you're just going to ignore everything else?

Does this mean the Chameleon will be black too?

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Isn't that Bushmaster

They had no problem putting her in the ps4 game without any sex appeal

Isn’t this entire stupid arguement moot because Sony is using kraven for a movie? Maybe if hudlin and Tacoates didn’t spend their runs just shitting on white peoples and wanking off this fake futuristic African tribe created by Jews and just write villains BP wouldn’t be so desperate for characters in his boring ass movies. Or at least if they didn’t burn klaw like that, funnest god damned character in the movie and he has to job for “WE WUZ” the character

I still find it hard to like BP just for that reason. Its just so much wanking and his fanbase eats it up.

>Dem call me Bushmaster

His point is ulitmately, just twist the Kraven story and JAM JAM JAM it in there, for no real reason.
I mean he's right, Kraven can be Wakandan, nothing is really gained by it if he's some Lost Tribe sent to fuck off but they can do it.

This
It's just retarded and obvious idea

BPs fan base luckily isn’t as sycophantic as others but they don’t seem to think about why people would consider the good king Batman boring.

At that point just make a new character and say that its the MCU's equivalent of Kraven.

This is some inception shit.

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He's an aristocrat and you should fuck off to Yea Forums

Yes, that's what they want to do.

I'm pretty sure that's not what they're going to do if this bullshit turns out to be real.

I mean, Nick Fury. Also don't diss RIPeter.

So like... a prince of a lost tribe, type thing?

Or, I don’t know maybe he was from a high born family in the Soviet Union who was run out after it fell. I dunno something fun. And BP can get bushmaster

Exactly, Sony removed the sexuality of Black Cat
I did not buy the game because of this.

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So his lost tribe was hunted down and slaughtered, accept it didn't happen in 1917?

I could buy it.
But you'd need a good bloody reason.
I think most Wakandans think New York and the outside world of shit is well below them.

Is he just bored and watching tv and sees Spider-Man lifting a car and goes...
"Hmm. I've never seen Wakandan spiders do that..."

You'd also need a good reason why Black Panther isn't cleaning up his own mess.

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Kraven is a fucking bogan and no one can tell me otherwise.

>Jerking off to PS2 hair
>Not even adding a PS5 or PS6 icon in the last image
I hope you never buy any games.

Or you can just have them write a new character connected to BP and leave kraven alone. Kraven works well with spider-man because Pete doesn’t want to deal with someone that intense, if you just make him ANOTHER lost prince of wakanda you’d lose something special

That's stupid
That was a thing in the Ultimate universe before the movies

Prince of Wakanda is more topical than Prince from fucking pre-communism Russia.

Watch us get the Australian jackass version from the Ultimate books.

So you just want to ruin the character, doesn’t matter how it’s done? Is this the extent of the black voice? Just begging for poorly done remixes of popular characters? Are you not unique in any aspect? Is black culture really just nothing but the refuse of everyone put together?

>So you just want to ruin the character, doesn’t matter how it’s done?
Do you even need me here for you make up all that weird shit? The spoiler is called A JOKE, I know you're new, but we make jokes around here.

>Wakanda is more topical
Wakanda is fucking fictional you retard

Though wouldn’t scorned member of the former Soviet Union wanting to take out popular American hero be a little more topical?

>Prince of Wakanda is more topical
What the fuck does that even mean.

Considering every thread about miles burns down to shitting on peter to build the character. You steal his name now you want to steal his most interesting villains? Who cares about joking about things that are probably going to happen at this point.

Let’s see BP stand on his own with his own cast, he’s got a good relationship with doom and namor let’s flesh those out rather than just turning kraven into killmonger

> According to BossLogic

WHY ARE YOU FAGS EVEN TURNING THIS INTO A TOPIC

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Anything MCU Spider-Man related brings out the worse in Yea Forums.

Best case, he'd probably just end up being a lesser Killmonger since I could see the logic being "I can't cut it as a Wakandan ruler, so I'll just work my way up the food chain from animals to lesser men(ie NonWakandans)

Honestly the best thing they could do for Kraven is ditch any overarching idealogy for his character, his only plan is to kill Spider-man, and he decides to hunt him like a cunning animal. By learning how he thinks where he roosts, what Pete's life was before he was outed, so it becomes a personal story for Pete. Kraven is openly hunting him, he knows what Kraven is all about, but he has no real power to do anything about it, meanwhile Kraven has total freedom to walk about, he presents himself to others as a regular person, he subtly probes Pete's family and friends for insights to who Pete is, and Pete can only really watch from afar because if he gets too close he risks their lives.
Pre-Communist Nobility isn't relevant to anyone where atleast Wakanda Royalty is tied to a big franchise.

I mean, a bit, but now he's angry that communism fell? Isn't that also vastly different than the original?

If it to get that original motivation (which isn't even that present in most of his stories) the goal, or simply to update him like a wrestler's gimmick?

Kraven vs. Black Panther is fun because they're both agile, cunning fighters with hunting and jungle knowledge. Hunting a Spider or a Panther isn't out of line for guy, because both are worthy, interesting prey. Doom and Namor aren't even there yet.

I don’t mind them fighting but making him fight BP first throws off the dynamic. He works as a spider-man villain who ends up dealing with other animal themed characters. Honestly bring back klaw or maybe deal with brother voodoo

If you can believe the gossip, Sony and Marvel Studios came to a general understanding about the Spider properties way back, so Disney could crank the money machine. Sony retains the use of the classic versions, but Marvel can use them as long as it is suitably different from what Sony retains. In case you were wondering why Spider-Man's suit is the way it is, why Uncle Ben is never mentioned, why Ganke is Ned Leeds, why Iron Man is so important, other adaption choices, etc.

Lel

That's bullshit but I believe it.

Evidently no one thought that far ahead....

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That’s so weird, they used to be so good at planning ahead

i'm not gonna lie I didn't even realize him being from wakanda would change his race too I'm a big spidey guy and I've only just realized he's not even from africa I always imagined him as a white african with a russian accent

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This is all because Ryan Coogler wanted to put him in Black Panther and couldn't do it because Sony owns him

You're not going to get Kraven in Spider Man 3

>a black villain with a white hero

Not going to happen.

nothing. Kraven being russian was only relevant during Last Hunt and even then it wasn't that pivotal to the story.

I don't know man. The lion cloak made me think he was african but the big game hunter motiff made me think of a russian guy

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His character was pretty Russian throughout the run. Why change such a good character to fit such a boring character. Him being this wacky Russian hunter tracking the spider through the big city is somewhat unique, turning him into another lost total of wakanda mad at whitey is literally a direct retread. Though coogler probably only wants kraven to have a tough white guy to kill in his movie

Disney won't allow Black Cat to be in an MCU film because she's worthless.

daredevil

I don't know why you faggots wanted Kraven in the third Spider man movie after you trashed both Vulture and Mysterio

>big game hunter made me think Russian
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_big-game_hunters
Fucking, how?

I don't like the trend of making non-black characters black that's going on, but if I had to pick one to do it to, Kraven's not a bad choice.

>Him being this wacky Russian hunter tracking the spider through the big city is somewhat unique
if you don't think about it. unfortunately for you,
this is a movie he needs a reason to do what he does. Mysterio was a disgruntled Stark employee who wanted to shit on Iron Man by becoming a faux hero and steal supertech from Peter, he can't just be some mook who's really good at movie effects.

They were good villains in comic in bad movies. Vulture was good but nothing like the comics. Mysterio was very accurate but he was the only accurate thing about the movie.

sheould read 'good villains in bad movies'

ITS A TROPHY YOU STUPID FUCK

Kek I love how arguments like that anons completely fall apart if you maintain consistency

>so if you hate X then you also hated when Y did it too!
>yes I did
>....

I thought Vulture's redo was fine. In most comics he seemed B tier villain at best, getting BTFO by Spider-Man pretty quickly unless he was working with some other villains. Movie Vulture had a bit more "umph" and intimidation factor.

when did Kraven ever dance with the kicks?

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FFH as annoying as it was didn’t change the core conceit if the character, someone who uses smoke and mirrors to accomplish his goal. That goal is either money or prestige, which is what he wanted. Changing kraven to be an African prince who believe he should be king literally changes everything about him. How do you not see that

>movie is bad because it's not like muh comics

this is not a real film criticism, with that argument you could say that The Shining is a terrible movie because it's not like the book, or Logan is terrible because it's not based on anything
I think this is a spiderfag problem only

that one big guy in tarzan who I now realize isn't russian and was probably british plus The Most Dangerous Game which I imagined as taking place in alaska even though it took place in the caribbean and alaska is in russia soooo... (kids have weird minds, man)

well Kraven is supposed to be the son of a nobleman who was cast out during a democratic revolution. if something similar happens but he's from wakanda now then nothing important really changes.

>this is not a real film criticism
It absolutely is.
>with that argument you could say that The Shining is a terrible movie because it's not like the book
With that argument you can say that GoT seasons 4-8 are terrible because they're nothing like the books.
>or Logan is terrible because it's not based on anything
This is just fucking stupid and has nothing to do with what it's being talked about.
>I think this is a spiderfag problem only
This better be bait.

If this is true, this means MCU and SMCU are crossing over right?

Booo. Really don't like this change.

>Alaska is in Russia
Jesus christ user, you have to be memeing now, you just have to be

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When the guck would that have happened in wakanda? His father would’ve been the king for decades. And I’d him being Russian really that interchangeable with a magic country in Africa? And how do you not see that that just makes him killmonger?

I know now that it isn't in russia but when I was in kindergarten my teacher told the class america bought alaska for a penny from russia and told us that the back side of the world is russia and it goes all the way to alaska. So in 5th grade when I read the most dangerous game they mention being on a secluded island I immediately link alaska and the island then I remembered it was russian owned and not knowing how old the book is I imagine it takes place before the sale and the hunter is a russian guy and the protag is a normal person and ever since hunters have been russian

>how was he racist
He wasn't. Only color he gave a shit about was green. He told Killmonger the Wakandans were racist as fuck and wouldn't give two fucks that he was black.

>It absolutely is.
it isn't, it's something only retards say, like the people who shit on Kubrick's Shining because it's not accurate to the book
>With that argument you can say that GoT seasons 4-8 are terrible because they're nothing like the books.
Those GoT seasons are terrible because they're terrible and both writers are hacks who relied on the books to make something good
>or Logan is terrible because it's not based on anything
it does have a lot to do with what's being talked about, Logan is a comic book movie and technically an adaptation but it's only barely based on Old Man Logan

It really seems to be a spiderfag problem, it seems like you're the only ones who think a movie is bad because it's not an accurate adaptation of something

I don't care as long as chameleon is still his half brother. I've always felt that Spideys rogues gallery being 75% Russian guys was rather dated.

>Wakandans were racist
They were xenophobic, not racist.

Okay, that makes some measure of sense

Who else beyond kraven and chameleon? Rhino sure but he was just an immigrant he had nothing to do with the soviets

>it isn't, it's something only retards say, like the people who shit on Kubrick's Shining because it's not accurate to the book
Why do you keep going back to the Shining? If there are fans of the book that don't like it because it's not like the thing they like it's still criticism, even if it's a retarded issue to have.
>both writers are hacks who relied on the books to make something good
They did a good job of adapting seasons 1-3 and most of 4, using the books as a basis should not be seen as a crutch like you seem to be implying.
>it does have a lot to do with what's being talked about, Logan is a comic book movie and technically an adaptation but it's only barely based on Old Man Logan
Logan was barely an adaptation of anything, and your retarded hypothetical doesn't make sense because fucking no one had a problem with it not being an adaptation of Old Man Logan. And the movie didn't try to sell itself as an adaptation of anything.

>changing an stablished white character to black
wow so original

That's a half step away

Don’t you know black people can’t be racist?

Tell that to my ex-neighbors. Pieces of shit

They were to busy trying to get an oscar rather plan blsck panther sequels

>its different from source material so its bad REEEEEEEE
95% of comics are utter dogshit my dude, the MCU extracts the 5% quality from them.

Even for bait, you should feel ashamed of yourself with such horseshit statements like that

>If there are fans of the book that don't like it because it's not like the thing they like it's still criticism
it's criticism but not actual real film criticism, the movie is not bad because it's not an accurate adaptation, that's my point
>even if it's a retarded issue to have.
So you agree?
>They did a good job of adapting seasons 1-3 and most of 4, using the books as a basis should not be seen as a crutch like you seem to be implying.
That's literally what I said, I'm not implying anything, I'm saying that both writers are garbage and have to rely on the books because if not then they're complete shit at what they're doing, which is not a good sign, if you have to rely heavily on the source material that means you're a hack, plain and simple
>Logan was barely an adaptation of anything
It doesn't matter what YOU say, it's still an adaptation because it's a comic book movie, based on a comic book character and even got nominated for best adapted screenplay

This made me upset, good job.

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Trying to get an Oscar? With that script? With those effects?

Come on user everyone knows that racism doesn’t mean hating someone for being different. It means to devious crime of existing while white.

>it's criticism but not actual real film criticism, the movie is not bad because it's not an accurate adaptation, that's my point
>So you agree?
Just because I don't agree with it doesn't mean that it can't be a criticism of the movie, or any movie for that matter.
>if you have to rely heavily on the source material that means you're a hack, plain and simple
Since fucking when?
>it's still an adaptation because it's a comic book movie
So Spider-verse was an adaptation of the shit event that Slott made? Both Spider-verse and Logan were pretty much original movies that used comic book characters, they just took some very basic concepts and ideas from the comics.

>Trying to get an Oscar? With that script? With those effects?
I'm pretty sure that they won three of the fucking things.

For costume design, the doesn’t mean they had to kill off klaw and burn mbaku on nothing

It was an incredibly retarded move to get rid of two of his most notorious villains in one movie, but they still got three Oscars and I doubt that anyone in the general public knows about Klaw and Man Ape.

They got three oscars for costume design though, and considering how much black people hyped this movie for themselves there was no way they weren’t going to be given some oscars

It's all about the optics, even if he's supposed to be a colonizer most of the vocal people won't see that and just see that he's a colonizer and think that's a bad thing to be in a movie period.

"A guy with a gun who really wants to shoot Spider-man" probably isn't the easiest sell of a headlining villain compared to the superpowered freaks you usually get on the big screen. Making him a Wakandan is a pretty clever way of making the audience more interested in the character out of the gate. Although I don't like the fact that Wakandan Kraven will likely replace the original if the idea is popular enough.

I mean, are they?I get the feeling they don't really plan ahead in any big capacity just "use this throwaway scene, and make sure you don't break toys x and y, we need them for the other movie."

I agree that the Oscars had nothing to do with the actual quality of the movie, but they still got them, which is what they wanted.

I guess you're right, they basically just kept propping less known villains with "THEY DON'T LIKE IRON MAN, REMEMBER IRON MAN?" before, so I guess now they have to wiggle in "HE DOESN'T LIKE BLACK PANTHER, REMEMBER BLACK PANTHER"

I dunno you just introduced JJJ so having him hire kraven to hunt spidey seems like a pretty solid intro with built in character moments. Why does everything have to be so incectuous with these movies. Hell isn't kraven older than black panther?

His point is more popularitywise, Kraven isn't a big draw so he needs to piggyback bigger movies.

That's kind of Scorpion's deal.

>comicbook.com
nah

It’s also the spider slayers and the flys deal. You could start with kraven pair him with Mac gargen then end it with creating the scorpion and maybe kraven and Pete teaming up to take him down after which kraven saying that he and he alone will be the one to best the spider.

Yes but spidey is a big draw in his own right you don’t need to connect everything

But they will.

>Yes but spidey is a big draw in his own right you don’t need to connect everything
Seeing new villains on the big screen IS a big draw for a lot of people, especially since there have already been seven of the damn movies in the last two decades. That's why they don't re-use villains. Look at how much buzz Mysterio got for Far From Home.

And being part of an outlawed Wakandan group is Man-Ape's deal. Everything is up for grabs

>Teaming up
>Not having Mac be the comic relief rival merc that Kraven gives no fucks about and is just an annoyance to Spidey.
>Until Mac gets so desperate he steals some experimental tech and fucks himself all up
>As the Scorpion he's actually a more credible threat but Pete just finally manages to beat Scorpion.
>Pete is triumphant and relieved
>Movie looks like it's starting to wrap up, but there looks like there's way too much time left on the runtime
>Kraven now starts methodically attacking the injured and exhausted Pete.
>Then Pete starts running into traps, Kraven has spent the whole movie studying and prodding Peter and now has a whole bag of hunting tricks based solely around how Pete moves and thinks.

I know but seeing spider-mans connection is the point there. I don’t want to see him deal with a black panther villain I want to see him deal with his villains. We just got JJJ back don’t ask them to fuck this up harder

That's exactly why it's more topical.

Scorpion, Doc Ock, Vulture, etc were all russian originally

>ign.com/articles/2018/08/03/spider-man-villain-movie-kraven-the-hunter-reportedly-in-development
op is a dork.
they're going to make a solo kraven movie and if it does well, maybe amy pascal could persuade the mouse in using that kraven

What the fuck are you talking about? Vulture was a businessman who got fucked and wanted to get rich off of his schemes, apparently doc I know is from Schenectady New York, and max gargan was an nyc PI hired by Jonah to find out spideys identity and when he couldn’t do it became the scorpion. None of them were Russian.

That was 30 years ago.

fuck off
Felicia is best

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But how will have Tony Stark pissed him off?

they will simply pull from other rogue galleries.
Think Ghost for Ant-Man.
Black Panther would probably be an easy way to introduce exotic characters; aka Doom, Namor.

Coogler already wanted Kraven for Black Panther and to have him as a white supremacist but got cockblocked by Sony as they're already doing an internal Kraven solo movie.

he called the wakandans 'savages' and said they didn't deserve their vibranium

which they don't considering they did fuck all with it, but he did use the s word

>Entire character is deadliest game style big game hunter

>BUT AFRICA SO BLACK

Hilarious how sheltered and naive these retards are.

This guy gets it

no, nothing like a prince of a lost tribe you mongoloid
you'd know that if you weren't a stupid amerimutt zoomer

He looks cool, I'm sorry.

Eh, sure, I can dig it. Aside from the Stark connections all the Spidey villains so far have been pretty good even if the rest of the films have been meh.

Coogler wanted to use him in BP1 but Sony said no due to spin-offs

I like how they use the movie lore already established to bring in other characters. I expected it so at least they make it believable.

Not surprised at the casuals in the thread okay with this

man who gives a fuck. Its the villians. You can almost swap races with villians except maybe doom.

Fuck off. The comic version was never good anyways.

Unbelievable. Kindly read a book or fuck off

I normally hate the shit out of the race-changing bullshit but I really, really don't give a shit what race Kraven is, I never liked the character even though he had some good stories. Plus, they already ruined Ultron forever so I kinda don't give a shit who else they fuck with, it can't get any worse.

Hey
Hey
I'm okay with this change and what you said applies to Vulture/Mysterio but shut your mouth. Pretty much every major Kraven story is kino

He acts like marvel films have had a single flop after improving their characters like this

why is hollywood afraid of using EXISTING AFRICAN COUNTRIES ???

Why are they using a country created by a WHITE MAN ????

Someone in the Sinister 6 is gonna get race swapped, that's just a fact of Hollywood, so this is probably the best of a bad situation

Want to know how I can tell you’re a casual?

They already did that with Shocker and Scorpion

>bad situation
It's just Marvel keeping with the times. As of 2020, whites will officially be a minority

>Shocker
Herman is of questionable race but you're right, Bokeem is way blacker than Herman
>Scorpion
His Ultimate version was Hispanic so they can play that card, just like Fury

>Sergei Kravenoff
>a nigger

Yeah, fuck off, cyкa.

I wouldn't say improve, I would say doing something different. Like dont do it with the heroes but the villains in the mcu mixing with other movie titles together is fine.

yea it was only integral to the best spider-man story published

Shocker isn't gonna be in the Sinister Six, also i thought he was always black

>Questionable
Bullshit

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I think they learned predictability isn't a good thing.

Пoшёл нaхyй, гpязный нигpилa-пидpилa. Maмкy твoю eбoмбe дeлaл.

Because you've never read anything from before 2010

>I mean, Nick Fury.
What about him? I liked him better when he was white.

>his name is literally “craven”
>is actually quite brave

Oh bravo Stan, bravo

Wait a minute, Kravens half brother is the Chameleon, AKA, Dimitri Smerdyakov

This is him in Far From Home

How can Kraven be his half brother if he’s pure Wakandan black and Dimitri clearly generic Slav mutt

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Because he's not going to be Wakandan holy shit, this is fake

Of course a doom fag would have the worst opinion.

>that pic
>slavic
u wot? That

Wait, wasn't SONY making a stand-alone Kraven movie?

>The Chameleon is a skrull
Holy crap that'd be a neat way to introduce him and his powerset. Though, I'm not sure how that could possibly relate back to Kraven

That’s a stupid idea

Hey, a blackwashing that actually works in-universe.

>after you trashed both Vulture and Mysterio
We did? I thought most people considered them the best part of the movies?

How did you guys make a 200+ post thread from a fucking rumor from an uncredited source?

People were cool with black Kingpin in Daredevil

Because this is not an official report, but a fucking rumor that somebody made up and this entire thread bit the bait because they get antsy about Spider-Man

retarded and MCUpilled

Oddly enough kingpin doesn’t have as strong a tie to his ethnicity as you’d think. He’s not Maggia or part of the Irish mob so you’ve got more room to play. That and the daredevil movie was awful and that wasn’t because if the best actor in the film

Maybe that's the point.
Sony makes stand-alone movie about Sergei Kravinoff and Marvel - about Kraven of Wakanda.

What
said.

>not appreciating the giant BRRRAAAAAAAP on PS4 black cat

>rumour from a guy who makes posters
Into the trash it goes.

>231 posts

What is wrong with you people?

His biggest enemies are usually his own people being xenophobic dicks and the MCU solved that problem in the first movie.
There's also two villains that i can't recall the name of. Basically one is a white supremacist and the other is a black albino (mutant?) woman. They are a couple. He says she doesn't sound as black because she's the whitest person he knows.

Yeah they solved the xenophobic dicks they dealt with their greatest Vibranium pirate, and hell they even got rid of the white wolf. Who was so incompetent to burn that many of BPs conflicts in one movie?

A million flies swarming doesn't make it suddenly not shit. In fact its proof that the entire MCU is the shittiest franchise around.

>No actual confirmation
>Just some random graphic artist and non-committal lines from people taken out of context

Wow, it's like clickbait from fucking 4 years ago.

Besides, isn't it public knowledge that the MCU can't use Kraven because Sony is already using him?

I think at this point we’re just trying to figure out what BP2 is going to do considering they burnt all of his best villains on the first movie

The first Black Panther already did the "I defeated you! No i will die because muh honor", why the fuck would you do that again for the sequel? And yes, this shit sounds like they are prepping him to be the villain of the second movie, because what honor would bring him killing a child? Fucking retarded.

I'm Russian and I'm ok with it. Thats a nice way of introducing him in MCU, if not repetitive.
You know how russians cringe almost every time when a "russian character" is on screen in western media? Its because they always screw up the characterization. Too old-school-soviet-thug type, every time.Unless it is extremely cheesy of sorts, like how Boris was in Snatch!

It was a good movie and I agree that they shouldn't have removed the white wolf because it would have been cool if he was a mid level agent during the time of the first movie.
The biggest problem is in meddling. It's all up to whether Disney can resist the urge to meddle in everything to try and take advantage of the newest cash cow then completely fuck everything up instead.

Lets be honest
Wakandan Kraven is still more preferable than Spliced with Lion DNA Kraven

>Last Hunt
Last Hunt is unironically the only iconic marvel comic with some kind of depth in it. Of course they'll try to ruin it as much as possible.

Honestly, I'm pretty meh at this. As a huge BP fan, I'm still salty that they ruined M'Baku by making him an anti-hero/rival and killed of Klaue, even if the movie was good.

Still hoping Klaue comes back somehow. Maybe Dr. Doom magic eventually.

it stopped being good the moment they killed him

Nah but killing him off was a huge mistake anyway.

But the moment they killed him we got into the terrible cgi rhinos and that god awful fight on the vibranium train

just go full comical villain.
the most African hunter stereotype possible.
ME WANTS TO KILL SPIDER, PROVE TO TRIBE ME IS BEST WARRIOR

Unironically a great way to tie black panther back into the main plot of the mcu

You’ve already got his string connection to doom and namor, what would connecting him to a spiderman villain do to connect him into the over arching plot as is?

and Storm should be BP's wife because they're both black and from Africa

>former Stark employee Kraven the Hunter....

Kraven is supposed to be a archetypical r entitled colonizer hunter character, like the guy from Most Dangerous Game.

>former Russian member of Steve’s howling commandos