ITT:We give miles Morales his own original rouge's gallery,new personality traits and flaws, challenges and better haircuts so he doesn't look like a chode
ITT:We give miles Morales his own original rouge's gallery,new personality traits and flaws...
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He just needs his old universe back. I'd rather read a story about him trying to fill in Spider-Man's spandex than having to share a universe with him.
I think he’s slowly getting a rogues gallery. I like the idea of Starling thus far. For those who don’t know, she’s the granddaughter of Vulture who uses her own flight suit to pursue a vendetta against Tombstone
replace all spider-man enemies with n******
>Scientist Squid
>The Reptile
>Hippo
>Dirtman
>Voltage
>Vibrator
The current run is already doing that
Change his official name to Stinger, Kid Arachnid or literally anything other than Spider-Man. You will see how Miles really works without the brand name crutch.
His book at least specifies “Miles Morales; Spider-Man”. And what about Flashes? It’s not like Jay, Barry, or Wally had trouble with that
Send him to Baltimore.
I mean it, it's New York Lite with a lot more black folks who think they "deserve" a hero. Give people a reason to give a shit about this crap city.
Take the Spiderverse movie Miles.
Then give him a comic book.
I actually really like that idea
Black version of the vulture isn’t very original
Honestly it would be better to give him some of spidey’s C-listers, show how miles is struggling to fill his shoes
Is his new solo worth a damn? Is current Miles even from the Ultimate universe anymore?
Giving Miles Peter’s leftovers isn’t helping. Besides, we get enough of that shit thanks to Spider-Gwen shipping. Starling is more of a Black Cat meets Vulture deal. Which if we’re doing a legacy Spider-Man, wouldn’t it make sense that one or two villains would have legacies? Not saying they all have to be, but still
>Only ~3 hour drive to New York
>Lots of skyscrapers
>Rife with crime
>Relatively, if not entirely untouched in comics
>Lots of hipster culture shit they can throw in
>Potential of him being traumatized after watching Pink Flamingos
I'm in.
>His book at least specifies “Miles Morales; Spider-Man”.
Still has "Spider-Man" in the name. Miles NEEDS that crutch, otherwise, he's just another "Mosaic".
>And what about Flashes?
What about them? A group of people mostly related by blood and history, with different and unique personalities NOT defined by skin color? Black Wally was a mistake, by the way. He's just DC's Miles Morales.
Why do we keep having this thread?
He just got several rogues in his current run.
>his current run.
(Which no one is reading.)
Since it got taken over by Ahmed it's bumped up from "terrible garbage" to "serviceable action comic". Nothing wrong with it, but nothing great about it either.
Just give this nigga dreads it's literally the go to hairstyle for ugly niggas like him
Black folks are buying it like it's New Crack. We order like twenty not including subs and every month we sell out within a day.
t. LCS employee
#6 just went to a second printing.
No. Let Static and Bendis' new girl have the dreads, keep miles with this hair.
Peter Parker's rouge gallery was filled with animal themed villains
so let Miles have tech themed villians
>The Car
>The Telephone
>Nanite Man
>The Window
>Mr Streetlamp
>The Vibrator
And make Street from Marvel adventures Spiderman volume 1 issue 4 canon
>A group of people mostly related by blood and history
Wait what? There’s no blood relation between any of them
Pic related
Curly top it is then
>Black sassy strong independent womyn who aint need no man
>Good
Yeah no thx
I was just thinking about this today while trying to think of ways to fix Spider-Verse, and thought of making it like The Wire and giving it to the same people to write/produce
>only Peter and Miles
>same universe
>early 2000s
>Peter has been Spider-Man for 20 years
>needs to retire or move onto bigger work
>Miles is from Baltimore
>doesn't have all the extra powers
>Peter coaches him to take over the street level stuff
>classic NY hip-hop soundtrack
>more subdued visuals
>calmer atmosphere
>grounded stakes
>Implying he hasn't just met his Black Cat
Also Black Cat is a "sassy strong independent womyn who doesn't need no man"
But she looooooves that Parker Peener
>”You’re not getting away, Black Bird!”
>”My name is Starling, you ass.”
It’s only a matter of time before Miles has his first “villain I want to fuck”
>”Alright! I’m finally getting my own villain”
>”Oh no, shes hot!”
That's Starling
I got a feeling Miles is on his way to his "If this be my destiny" moment with what's been going on in the comic. Spend a few issues just straight up torturing the kid and watch him finally break out and cement his worth; it'll solidify this bump in popularity forever.
>miles get btfo by new, edgy stiltman
>Black Electro (double electric powers)
>Black Black Cat (big ass instead of big tits)
>Black Goblin
Whose ever heard of marvel padding out it’s numbers. Both my LCSs have to many issues in stock going back to issue one. I just want a legacy character for Pete to build off of what’s there not tear everything down to do the same thing way less interesting
I dunno my LCS has it listed as a best seller but I never see it move and they literally have no trades of peters runs
>Whose ever heard of marvel padding out it’s numbers.
Second printing means the first run was popular. Marvel overships the first printing to boost numbers, but they don’t seem to be doing much these days
>Rouge's gallery,
Dr. Lam Shayd and his wondrous control of light
World famous sailor, Tim o'Russ the Angler
Baltimore's own crime lord, Bowler
The man made of pies, Pie-dro
The man made of hands, Hand-man
The mistress of interdimensional portals, Dot
>personality traits and flaws,
He thinks puns are the funniest thing ever and he's a vegan
>challenges
He's put into a school with black kids and they resent his being a good boy as being a fake poser.
>better haircuts
1970s afro with a pick in it. His mask has an open top like some spider-girls so it can poof out. It's where he stores his venom blasts, so the bigger his afro, the most powerful he is.
Give him the Smythes. Peter hasn't been worried about them in years.
Miles needs to have some really lame villains thrown in. I'm thinking Staple-Gun Stanley or Phlegmbotomy, the Living Booger. I'm holding out for the Deadly Itch, who causes that really obnoxious itching that happens where you can never reach it.
>>Black Goblin
Redcap
Remember that the more you support this character the more you support bendis.
Didn’t they just get caught doing it with the new invisible woman book last week?
It's not his anymore. Miles only got interesting AFTER Bendis left. He had nothing to do with Into the Spider-verse and less to do with the PS4 game. Fuck, the McElroys wrote him better.
>Miles only got interesting AFTER Bendis left
Miles is interesting?
He's at least a person now.
He's taken some big steps towards not just being "Black Spider-Man". His whole thing in the recent Champions run was down right compelling.
He still gets money and prestige from the character user
Maker makes a great Miles villain in a "I fuck with you because I can" kind of way and ?I'm really hoping all of is him.
What happened in champions?Did he kiss Kamala yet?
And the knowledge that it only got better after he left.
He had Mephisto bring her back to life after a rescue mission gone wrong which is arguably a sweeter gesture.
Hopefully they get together Miles is a good boi
You think he gives a fuck about that over the money and knowing that normies only will ever associate his name with him? Miles is a bendis creation and will always suffer from that and inflict that suffering on the franchise and no amount of rationalizing will chance that
George Lucas cared. George Lucas cared an awful lot about someone else doing a better job with his baby than he did.
Shocker, but black.
Kraven, but black.
Venom, but black.
Carnage, but black.
Rhino, but black.
Vulture, but black.
Mysterio, but black.
Scorpion, but black.
Lizard, but black.
Well George doesn’t need to care about that anymore now does he?
Bendis doesn’t give a fuck, his baby won an Oscar, do you think he cares how little he was involved with it? Look at how proud he is with all of it? Miles still doesn’t have an origin and only has his issue count because of bendis, Jessica Jones is still shackled to luke cage dragging him down and separating him from his bro. Bendis doesn’t care because he knows you don’t, you just want the black spiderman you don’t care how good it is or how he was shoved in
They announced it. They didn’t even try to hide it. But yeah, the last title they overshipped was agents of atlas I think, and Ma Marvel. Other than that, I don’t think so
Yikes, did bendis fuck your dog or something?
Also, Luke is running around just fine without Jessica
But Venom is already a black slime monster.
You’re right they came clean about it for some titles, which means they don’t do it for any other titles. Because Miles’s run is all about being honest and in no way used deceptive business practices to build his book.
No Bendis just fucked one of my favorite characters a shackeled a divirsity horse to him that has done nothing in a decade to deserve the resources he leeches off of the franchise. I can’t wait for Sony to completely fuck it up again like we know they’re going to. Bendis getting money for his fetish is just the cherry on the shit sundae. So my thought is never let you jerks forget who you’re supporting
I am genuinely proud and astonished that they haven't brought in The Wall so the Latino kid can knock him down yet.
>better haircuts
He's a Puerto Rican/Black kid from New York. That's the hairstyle bro. The only other shit they can do it give him dreads or an afro and it would be ridiculous hiding that under a mask. Or he can get cornrolls and look like a criminal.
Count to 10 and breathe deeply
Seem like a good thread to ask this in and I didn't think the idea was worth it own thread. You are hired to pass on one legacy name. Who would want to do and do you think you could do a good job?
I want to clean up the human GL mess. Wouldn't kill them all off but try to think up something to stop the weird fact that there's enough human lanterns to make a league
I recommend you to do the same but I don’t want you to get any bendis cum in your lungs
I make Tim Drake the new Oracle.
Why the dread hate?
>inb4 they're dirty
you can clean them all the time and dont have to have stray strands stick out.
They look dopey if they're drawn too defined. Static had them right
I wasn't hating dreads are honestly the best looking hair for black people unless they're chief keef tier when they look like smell like old wet weed,gun powder,and sweat from shooting too many shirtless music videos
>Why the dread hate?
It doesn't fit Miles and you really should be trying to get Static's dreads back
Where we’re going we don’t need banter
Is this a real comic? That’s hilarious
You're all fools let miles have invisibility, poison fangs,have venom blast just be a midorya hard punch
Then have Kamala be his Mary Jane and blade's daughter be his black cat and then have blade always be on the verge of trying to kill him because he called him count chocula
He should have a rat tail since he's Puerto Rican for maximum kino
Put his family into financial ruin. Have him steal from crooks to make ends meet. Make him move on to a Robinhood style character who steals from the rich and gives to the poor. Make him fight other heroes who don't approve of him stealing.
Just retcon this stupid Bendis shit out of existence, suddenly problem solved.
Seriously like we already didn't had to deal with a retarded amount of spider-folk.
We'll probably get another one of these copycats next year.
Send his ass back to Ultimate Universe. Never have I been hype and disappointed in reading "Spider-Man is on the scene" in a comic then when I read the current Venom run. I wanted Peter, not his protege butt buddy. He should get his own damn name at least.
Just kill off peter again
It still wouldn’t change the fact that Miles is awful and has nothing to add to the franchise
>The Seven
A group of Mexican super criminals that operate in the US. Members of the criminal cartel known as the Dread Muertos, each one of them has unique powers based on their personalities. One thing however the have in common. For some reason each one of them are immune to Miles's Venom Blast (or at least show very high resistance to it). Because of that, Miles must utilize deception and cunning in order to fight them.
I'm for calling him Street Spider. Add his Into The Spiderverse costume and we're set.
Taking money from crooks is Kaine's thing though.
Nah, Kamala is for white man.
Shuffling batfam members around. How about no, even if he's semi-retired still no
All the white men are too man whorish for Kamala she needs a pure boi like miles
Which makes Kaine a great choice as a supporting guest star and mentor.
>he current run is already doing that
vulture gi.......................zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>literal mutt
>pure
Pick one OP
>Shocker, but black.
>Kraven, but black.
>Venom, but black.
>Carnage, but black.
>Rhino, but black.
>Vulture, but black.
>Mysterio, but black.
>Scorpion, but black.
>Lizard, but black.
based
If a boy making a deal with the devil to save a QT like Kamala isnt pure I don't know what is
Bendis and other authors really try to push the "bitches love spider-man" thing to 11 with Miles.
I like the idea of Bombshell being like his "main" villain; a reformed villain turned hero turned team member turned lover and then back to villain again. Not like Black Cat. I want her to be far more broken and evil than that
I like the idea that is being pushed too that Miles has a lot to do with the multiverse and other spider-people there within. Take him out of 616 for like 80% of his story arcs and drive home the idea that he does his thing by traveling the multiverse; give him villains from other universes.
Because Venom, Carnage, Toxin, Scarlet Spider, Spider-Gwen, ect, seem to stand on their own pretty well with their own unique names.
>Black Black Cat (big ass instead of big tits)
>Not White Cat, a black girl whose dressed in white
Arachnodude
Arachnokid
character traits ,story/personality
>Grows up in some brooklyn ghetto
>Miles is stubborn, hothead and a bit of a douche
>Doesn't care much for school work and but excels in Art like his Spider-verse counter part
>Is a douche to peter, then Peter dies, he feels guilty
>best friends with bombshell
>Denies joining the champions multiple times
>A little more morally grey than Peter but still has a no kill rule
>is alot less stuck up about working with villians/anti heroes, teams up with Venom
>Has dreadlocks or jheri curls as hair
>He is in Ultimate U
>His flaws are his hotheadedness and how reckless he is
Villians
>Doc Ock (ITSV VERSION)
>Scream
>Starling
>Omega Red
>Ultimatum
>Spider-Twins
>Ult Diamond Back
what do you think bros?
>Scarlet Spider
Which one? Kaine or Ben
>Spider-Gwen
You mean Spider-woman or Ghost Spider while she is 616. Call Miles Second Spider or Shadow Spider if you need to like how I call Nick Fury Jr. his given name, Marcus Fury.
Option 1: Spider-Verse but in comic form. Keep the inheritors and all that stupid shit contained to that book and that book only.
Option 2: Replace him completely with Spider-Punk
Get Liv/Mom-Ock into 616
Give him his own Green Goblin/Venom type nemisis that isn't Green Goblin or Venom. I like the idea of someone who is the dark reflection of the hero. He should really have one of those.
I guess he already has his own "Black Cat" in the form of Bombshell
New Yorker here, I kinda like Baltimore ( and Philly for that matter) so I would be ok with this.
Dam I use they use middle version in spiderverse
The Swiss Miss! Once a famous Broadway actor, now a cyborg killing machine!
Wish*
>name
something edgy, please
>personality
before injection, he was not talkative after injection narcissistic, psychopathic and manipulative person who will always play the hero and nice guy but is really a crazy piece of shit when not around people or others he like yet hides it well
>traits
was given powers from bootleg super soldier injection from willing human experimentation that his friends told him about.
superhuman speed
superhuman strength
superhuman muscle mass and bone hard as the strongest metal
superhuman healing factor
superhuman hearing, smell and everything
>challenges
keeping he is a psychopath from the heroes while he abuses miles
>origin
Think spiderman origin but with spiderman 1 movie highschool part where peter hits the bully, plays basketball and other shit but evil. Nearly kills the bully, becomes a monster in sports and becomes violent to everyone who fucked with him and only becomes a hero because some kid he was fucking with told him in fear he would be a great hero.
>things you should do and never do
do
>keep his evil shit secret from the heroes for however long you can
>always have him have an alibi "he kicked my head in while i was shitting. no he didn't he was with cap talking about the war"
>don't give him a happy household but never make it the main point of a story. (his parents are shit but he is a little shit because he wants to be)
>don't make him talk in his mask. he keeps quiet
>he is a fucking angel and great person to be around if your someone he isn't fucking with and needs to use. it can be said he is a growing icon for heroism
don't
>don't bring up romance. if you do he better be bashing miles girl head in while she was going into the shitter to prove a point.
>he isn't going to talk about the shit he does
>no sexuality at all.
how hard is it to create a villain. even i can come up with this shit and i'm drunk
Hmmmmmm I actually like this I might replace my good boi pure miles with your version and have my version of Anya call him out on his self inflicted problems when he whines that he's not good enough for his crush Kamala
Dam that's actually really good.With that being yes making villians is super fucking for me
>Second printing means the first run was popular.
Second printing means the first order was low, which they tend to be because no one buys them. So there was an uptick in the amount of purchases in one location. Cool. How are his sales?
>It's not his anymore.
Miles will ALWAYS have "created by Brian Michael Bendis" attached. Literally no one can remove that stain. Bendis will have royalties and bragging rights forever.
Unless someone clone miles.
Let me try
villain name
>sweettooth
>age
make him teen to early adulthood. something like peter when in his final days of school
>personality
manipulative but fair and always keeps his promise. He will use anything to protect his territory and criminal underground network but is like batman(charitable) and does help the community(territory). you will never see his drug runners or business in his area.
>occupation
drug lord. not as powerful as kingpin but is powerful in his area and holds tight control over what happens in it. Will even work with heroes if he finds out someone broke his rules.
>abliltys
Think Psylocke and hellion power somewhat and even Psylocke power color but more energy base.
the drawback is he needs suger since his power uses that as an energy source (candy keeps him from dying if used to the max for long or passing out or coma if used too much hence the name sweet tooth because he will always have candy on him and will be seen sucking on one.)
>challenges
Keeping heroes and villains out of his area to keep some form of peace.
>origin
Born and raised by a former druglord(uncle) who lost everything and shot himself he now does what his uncle could not do and take over everything. He is a mutant
Things to do and not to incorporate into the story
>DO
>he should always take the let's talk this out approach before getting into a fight(remember his weakness if you want to know why)
> will become obsessed with looking for anyone who fucks with his area and will even work with heroes or villains to find them.
>give him something like Crowley from good omens personality but when serious something like lucifer from vertigo.
> make it so miles and daredevil will team up from time to time since kingpin and sweettooth will cross path as both are druglords trying to take territory. let daredevil teach miles about the criminal underworld and be a mentor
>don't
>no sexuality but is bad with girls.
>no x men
>no evil for lulz as he is not heartless
>Miles will ALWAYS have "created by Brian Michael Bendis" attached. Literally no one can remove that stain
So? Spider-man will always have the co-created by Stan Lee attached and Batman has Bob Kane. You think Deadpool was good when Rob Liefeld made him?
Literally just make Zolomon his archenemy with a Tarantula Hawk theme. Have him pull Goblin tier bullshit on Miles, but out of a twist belief that it'll better him as a person.
>which they tend to be because no one buys them.
If no one buys them then why would they need a second printing?
Give him like a bad guy with magnet powers. Not like magneto where he makes metal fly around, but he magnetizes things (like if he wants to run up a wall, he can magnetize his feet with a positive magnet and the wall with a negative magnet). See, the magnet power guy was a nerd in high school who got into an accident and got buff while having magnet powers. Then decided to become an asshole jock who uses his superpowers to become amazing at sports (like in soccer, he'd magnetize the goal area, then charge the ball with the opposite polarity every time he made a shot). When he got out of school, he realized it was extremely easy to steal shit with his powers and decided to do that instead of getting a job. And he's also a nerd by history, so he can invent new shit to help him during robberies.
That's it. No major gimmicks beyond that. Just a dude with a cool power that Spider-man has to stop, so he's easy to write stories around. He can also have cool wall and ceiling battles with Miles.
Because people like the Flash's, nobody likes Miles except for casuals who saw the movie.
This is true
Based idea
But that defeats the point of piggybacking in the first place
>We give miles Morales his own original rouge's gallery
Monstergirls and aliens
This desu
>rouge's gallery
What's that? Some kind of fancy makeup cupboard?
He doesn't even have the same hair type as miles.Miles has 4c hair, this dude us 3c-4a...
the artist can still change it anytime
What new love intrest should we give miles
Bump
I didn't know people care for miles that much.
Fartman and Brappergirl
Because he has potential
Gwen poole
So did America and look how that turned out
You and other 2 people in this thread.
3 people can't make 100 posts.
Would she bully him for being a knock-off Spider-man 24/7?
Slyde should be his ultimate nemesis. Prove me wrong.
A bunch of unemployed kids like you can do shit like this all day.
I thought black people were good at running
based
i believe he still remembers ultimate universe, yeah
Eeeeeeehhh
Bump
WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY DO THAT TO HIM. JESUS CHRIST.
Miles is deffo getting a Symbiote of his own in Absolute Carnage #2.
She's okay in WCA
Based
>All the white men are too man whorish for Kamala
Nope.
Yes
Rollan
Fuck off, you've been saying "he has potential" for ten fucking years.
Miles sucks. Get over it.
They are not, but anyway she is not interested in sweet boys
Bruno, Sam and Miles could not be with her for that reason
America still has potential. Hell, the thing I want most is an America solo that double downs on Rivera's crazy bullshit except written by a competent writer who goes full Buckaroo Banzai with it.
What kind of boys kind of boys is she into
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Take out the SJW designs and this unironically have more potential then Miles
FUCK ________________
handsome and manly
ask khadareen or Chad-i mean Cheb Hura
Obviously he must use the power of love to defeat these villians
Make him an angry kid in Chicago with a vendetta against criminal gangs for the turf wars they wage on the streets
Explore how being in prison doesn't stop gangs from carrying out orders, and how insignificant it would make Miles feel despite all his efforts, while struggling to uphold the 'with great power comes great responsibility' crap
Introduce mutagen or some other radioactive element to the gangs which they fight over even worse than they had been before, using it to mutate certain members into secret weapons they can use to stand a chance against Miles and the police
>niggermaster
>time traveling slave owner from the civil war era
>wants to own morales because he is an ancient descendant of a slave who escaped.
Just make Spider-Verse Miles the new normal Morales, a guy who got thrust into this shit but actually refuses the great responsibility, and under Peter's guidance starts to get into the groove of being a superhero without being Quip-Man Lite.
Also get rid of that gay ass "I touched you with my doo-doo fingers that means I win" power, fucking retarded shit that Bendis slapped on because he needed a way to justify Miles being able to day 1 shit on the guy that just killed Spider-Man
>For those who don’t know, she’s the granddaughter of Vulture who uses her own flight suit to pursue a vendetta against Tombstone
So exactly the same shit as Vulture except not an old ass man and not a vendetta against whoever the fuck Toomes is beefing with right now.
Too bad the story about him trying to fill in Spider-Man's spandex was written poorly and bordered on outright replacement with Miles taking over all of Peter's schoolfriends, family, etc.
Top kek
There was a villain like that in Astro City. He used time travel to kidnap black people from the 1930s and took tel to the 1700s sell them as slaves.
This
Who be dumb enough to waste good ideas for villains on this garbage?