Classic fantasy setting

But, by saying it's beyond compare, didn't you just compare it?

Did we just divide by zero?

>elongated head
I get where you're coming from. I just assume that at some point the forehead transitions smoothly into hair/headfloof.

>main character is ostensibly a hero but only the princess is allowed to be capable and competent and actually accomplish anything
this show was ahead of its time
naw but seriously it was a huge breakthrough for TV animation, and it saddens me that the renaissance only lasted a decade, 15 years tops.
One thing that I never understood is where the fuck are their families? These are supposed to be the dwindled remnants of a separated colony living in secret, but none of them are related, so that means each one is the only survivor from their family... and since all of them are either over the hill or considered children, that's very strange and unlikely, and none of them ever talk about or mourn any recent deaths there would almost definitely had to have been
That does help actually.

They don't leave many clues, honestly.
I think Grammi mentions at one point that she and Zummi were incorrigible tricksters in the orphanage as kids or something? It's been a while, so don't quote me on that.
Anyhow, it's unlikely that they'd speak casually about deaths or abandonment in a Disney cartoon. It's not the kind of tone they want to set. Unfortunately, that leaves us lore-obsessed weirdos out in the cold.

It's designed for kids, literally. That's why the characters are bright and colorful and fuzzy bears. It's the same audience that was watching Rescue Rangers, Tail Spin, and Goof Troop. Of course they are going to make the main characters something that would appeal to kids at the time, as opposed to designs which might appeal to 30-something adults twenty five years later.

is that Dobson?

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What was her problem ??

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The reason it worked so well id because it was animated by tms !

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She was French.

That's the opposite of a problem

>appeal to kids
i think you mean appeal to parents. kids in the 80s wanted violence and edge, and cool products to buy

modern fantasy is cool

Have you ever met a French person?
...Unless I've just had really bad luck with French people.

>The reason it worked so well id because it was animated by tms !

Hi Famicom/TMS Fag.

Fuck off.

There's no middle ground with the French. They're either the most pleasant, relaxed people ever or vicious scheming bastards.

in fact this schism goes all the way back in their history. Most of the good french, the robust underclass, moved away in the 18th and 19th centuries, to america and canada. lumberjack motherfuckers. the remainder were the entitled, limp elite, as pale and thin as the cigarettes they chainsmoke

Ahead of its time or not, rare is the 80s show that actually flat out says X character's family members are dead or entirely missing. I mean, it's not like you *couldn't* do a Very Special Episode where Cubby gets sad thinking about how his real parents died in a fire, but his surrogate family is there for him, but either it would be tricky to pull off or the Disney Suits looked at the script and told the show no way in hell.

As a kid of the 80's, I liked both. I was just as likely to be into Garbage Pail Kids as I was Cabbage Patch Dolls.

I thought they were both pretty fucking gay, but I was born in 85 so I'm straddling the line a bit.
And I'll admit, when I was actually that little, I would just watch whatever. I wouldn't always like it, but I'd watch it.

Not everyone who gives tms the praise they deserve is famicom you spaz

It was going to be Black Cauldron spin-off, but that flopped so they added the gummi bears

>I-I'm not famicom guys, I swear
Classic

I don't think that's quite right, but it was made with leftover development material and you can tell

I feel like it was similar in ways to The Fluppy Dogs.

You mean concept designs?
Eilonwy even has a blue dress in several posters and stuff

>The Fluppy Dogs.
The girl reminds me of Thorn from Bone.
Definitely very 80's feel

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>Whenever anyone brings up how "safe and sterile" the 80s were, with talking animals preaching life lessons, they always implicitly bring up Gummi Bears
Has nobody ever actually seen the show?

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Why the fuck is Dick Dastardly there

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I think they're confusing them with care bears
easy to do. they even SOLD carebears gummibears candy at the time
also we all grew up with the Dummi Bears parody on Rugrats, so

>Dummi Bears parody on Rugrats
It was the Dummi Bears parody on Garfield and Friends for me.

Just check out the voice of the villain... it's the same as Igthorn. Also Lorenzo Music is one of the fluppies.

that was the Buddy Bears and they were more of a parody of the Get-Along Gang

Man, I would love to see a gritty time-skip spinoff. I know it'll never happen, though.

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anything's possible. as long as greg weisman's at the helm, i'd watch it.
step 1 would be make them more like actual bears. let them bare their fangs and use their claws. They're still 2 feet tall, but that makes them a lot more menacing in combat. Imagine having to fight this thing that's bouncing around the room like a goddamn... well, gumberoo. That's a thing in mythology, a bear that's all rubbery.. like it's half walrus.
seeing whatsisname and calla together in the future would be so sweet.

Cavin?

that was it. I knew it had a Ca and was one letter away from a normal name

Now look, I can understand bouncing here and there, but EVERYWHERE?

Of course. You must also realize that to bounce EVERYWHERE, they are also require to bounce ON DEEZ NUTS!

Plushies and juice.

whose idea was it to base a fantasy race on a candy?
and why werent there more copycats? no adventures of mike and ike and the hot tamales.. no crime-fighting sour britecrawlers (Guess they didnt have those back then), no mars bars quick energy chocobot hour..

Well, I guess nowadays we have... Princess Bubblegum?

I would not mind if they justmake a modern fantasy. But I am tired of fantasy settings only with magical stand-ins for cell phones and internet all the damn time.

jesus yeah. i'm sick of modern shit in general. let alone all the flash in the pan shit
when's the last time you had someone in a fantasy thing be like wait lemme consult the bigass magic book
and like, actually look up facts or something
naw it's HAHA HASHTAG MAGIIIC

Because medieval fantasy was just popular in the 80s. Lots of shows had the medieval fantasy backdrop to their cartoons.

Smurfs, He-Man, Thundercats, and a few other talking animal shows like monchichi and wuzzles were medieval.

Well, to be fair, He-Man and Thundercats were more like 'techno-fantasy' than medieval, but Wuzzles was straight-up modern day (80's).

of course scifi was too. problem is it was kinda up its own ass and political in the worst way. Like it had to fight tooth and nail to get respect after the silver age of no-budget b-movie scifi, but what got it there was star wars, and they didn't understand that... is just reskinned fantasy. so it took til the 90s for scifi to get back on track with actually being intelligent
fantasy in the meantime just needed heart, and people were keen to have and provide that.

>safe and sterile
I watched one episode at random and they dragged Grammi down to a dungeon and threatened her with a torture rack and a dunking machine before finally setting on (ugh) tickling her feet with a feather. I mean it's fine that they balanced the dark with something comedic, but I've seen the Internet, I know what people get off to now.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pom_Poko
This is the movie you want to watch:

>Prominent testicles are an integral part of tanuki folklore, and they are shown and referred to throughout the film, and also used frequently in their shape-shifting.

english dub had a fucking field day with that
in addition to calling tanuki raccoons, they referred to their balls as the 'raccoon pouch'
that must have confused a lot of kids
i dont like the style that was drawn in at all, nor the bullshit eco message.

Famifag aside, who was the animator or designer?

Gusto was best boy.

>whose idea was it to base a fantasy race on a candy?

Eisner. If I recall correctly, he found out his son liked gummi bears and asked the animation department if they could something with that.

Didn't matter what it was so long as it had gummi bears in it.

that's when you start looking for a new boss I think

If you are asking about those pics specifically, looks like it was drawn by Walt Disney Japan (which was a group of animators who splintered off from TMS)
was drawn by Walt Disney Australia before they got good. (Episode 616, "May the Best Princess Win")
Weird trolling between Famifag and anti-Famifag aside, it did make a big difference which studio animated the episode.

the same Disney Australia that gave us those uncomfortably sexy episodes of Aladdin and Gargoyles?

I would say Disney Australia's best work was in Goof Troop, Darkwing Duck, and Bonkers. The better episodes of Gargoyles were still the Japanese ones. I have not seen enough of Aladdin to make a comparison, but I'll take your word for it.

>Disney Australia's best work was in Goof Troop

They were the ones who kept trying to slip Peg cleavage shots and nipples by the censors, right?

Wow now that you mention it, I can distinctly recall their weirdly overexpressive faces in those very cartoons. but being toonier, it suited them. when they did the odd episode of more serious shows, it was like... daaamn what are you doing.. these ladies are way too sexy, they look like they probably can't eat food that isn't dick-shaped.

Well now the song is stuck in my head. nice going guys.

I saw some GB when I was a kid. Still can't be sure I saw all of them. I need to be able to take all-summer vacations just to do my "I should watch/read all of this just to make sure I've watched/read this."

it goes pretty quickly if you make a little time each day. I find it's a good way to bundle in regular exercise. watch an episode of whatever while I use the cycle machine thing

I assume you're referring to the phone call scene. Yes, that's Disney Australia. They did all the best episodes.

Sunwoo and Kennedy made the worst.

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Did Toei animate any other episodes of Skooks?

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what is she saying

I never got /co deal with Peg before now, outside of every character getting sexualized by someone eventually.

Now i get it, i must have missed those episodes when it aired. I didn't really like goof troop and would only watch if nothing else was on.

Gummi Bears was the shit though, I remember trying to follow the plot about them finding a long lost Gummi kingdom and then nothing. But i had like four episodes i recorded on VHS that i watched to death.

There's also several side profiles where she has prominent nipples.

Been a while so I don't remember the exact particulars but I think a house that she had been looking to make a huge deal on had come onto the market along with an interested buyer.

selling her bathwater