Prequel Update

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I'm trying to only get the cat toy, but it comes down after the chalices and the chalices make it their sole mission to knock gems into your bag. So getting your hand up to scoop in the toy is difficult since you leave the bag unprotected.

i just left the hand completely still a little high and right of the bottom and it stopped 99% of everything

I already stopped everything. I'm trying to stop everything while moving my hand to get the cat toy.

>Jul 12
Katia has time magic now?

katia seems cuter than usual this time

The khajiit score doesn't equal gold. I thought it did. I wanted to get 332 coins since that was the plan, but even if you get lower it still says you took more than you needed.

So I don't think it's possible. 332 gold coins would be impossible to keep track of, but if 5 gold coins is still too many, then 332 would be overkill.

beat my score bitches

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Based on the assets, there's one ending I haven't seen. And there's an easter egg of sorts if you type pog in the coin part.

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There's five endings.

1. Don't move your hand -> 2. Don't steal anything -> 3. Steal a lot -> 4. Steal some

This is the one I don't know yet. Maybe you have to get exactly 332 coins, or maybe you have to get way more coins than we've currently gotten.

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I didn't include the pic for the fourth ending because it hadn't been posted yet. It's nothing special though. Just the default ending.

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oh my god please tell me this fucking game doesn't have another button i don't want to grind a shitty flash game to get a waifu pin again

I can't. Half the time the coins clip through the bag and don't go in, and the chalices are literal cancer.

beat my own score, it doesn't look like there's a pin, thank fucking god.

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Any tips?

I get around 30k but then the chalices come in and fucking ruin me.

>Prequel update
Great, that means new porn. The only thing this pile of shit is good for.

no, it was a fluke, i don't know what I did differently

FUCK THESE GOD DAMN CHALICES.

Do the chalices actually go into the bag for you or do they spaz around when you barely touch the fuckers?

nah i just slapped them out of the way

It's not fucking working. I don't care if there's no prize. This has legitimately pissed me off and frustrated me more than the previous games and I'm not sure where I want to cry or throw my mouse halfway across the room. I don't fucking understand what I'm doing wrong.

>it's flash minigame episo-
wait a minute

chalices and gems actually lower your score, you want ONLY the gold

Nothing in the game says that. What the fuck.

Wait, that can't be right, as jewels shoot your score up like crazy and trying to do just gold gives me a lower score.

it might be that gems are just bugged and fly off giving you a penalty

the penalty message doesn't show consistently so you never know when it's missing the bag and when not

FIX YOUR GODDAMN GAME KAZERAD.

I swear I do better on this run than my last run but I end up with 10k score less.

go play cracker toppings simulator to calm down user

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I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. Sometimes I barely touch the gold at the start and my score shoots up to 20k. Other times, I methodically scoop handful after handful into the bag and my score barely goes up at all.

>There are people on this very board who look at Khajiit porn

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i'm testing and turns out the area that actually goes into the bag is the darker brown part, anything beyond that falls outside, so a lot of the stuff you're scooping isn't actually falling into the bag, and instead it gives you a penalty.

>this update
THIS GIF HAS A 2012 TIMESTAMP
HOW LONG HAD YOU BEEN PLANNING THIS KAZ
also I'm fairly sure I'm way more of a newfag than 2012, could anyone please check their copy for unix timestamps?

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OHH

I JUST NOTICED

THE CHALICES TEAR THE BAG OPEN

I'm going mad. I don't think that's the issue. The score you get just seems completely fucking random.

The chalices and also you if you move the mouse too far down left, Katia tears the bag with her hand. You need to scoop without doing that

Again, not my issue. I've seen them go in and give me 3000+ score. It's just my score TORPEDOS the moment the chalices get on screen. I can have 29k, but then, it doesn't matter what I do, it just craters and nothing gets me any gold.

i hate my life

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the bag will break in the next couple of updates, fuck you Kaz

The bag breaks if you move her paw through it.

Can you at least tell me what your god damn strat was. Don't say "i don't know" or some trite. For example, I was trying to rotate the mouse clockwise to paw the coins into the bag. Were you doing that? Were you doing it counter-clockwise? Left to right?

not him but i got to 26k just going up and down in very short strokes near the entrance

i mean in the actual story, something will of course happens and she will lose everything, maybe she will even die, or maybe worse, she will be to be the main character in Oblivion.

That went terribly for me. Didn't work.

Don't scoop-up the cat toy.

I wish that were my fucking problem. Thought I had a good run there, but no, only 20k.

Does anyone have a sharper image of this? I want to make it my desktop background, but the blurred lines are triggering my autism

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What happens if you do?

No, no, she's going to have a brief period of success and happiness, but she'll eventually do something to ruin it out of her own stupidity, like spend it all on Skooma.

Seriously, I just went completely wreckless, throwing coins all over the place and having half of my stuff not even go into the bag, and I still got the same score. I don't understand this.

Here's just a rip of it.

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Nothing, it just tells you that was a cat toy instead of gold.

Another secret.

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Katia really steals?

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>we waited two and a half months to put gold in a bag
good thing the readers are only in it for khajiit waifu

You've broken me, Kazerad. I hope you're happy. I tried and I tried and I tried and I tried to get this fucking this beaten properly but I can't get more than 30k score.

And this smug fuck rolled in without really trying and got it instantly.

Tryin to do the "one coin only" thing, saw the score goin up real fast for minute ammounts, then slowly drop
Look up capacitor charge graphs, I think it's that kinda deal
Could look at the source but I've 7 hours of work up ahead, so you do that user

Part of it is luck. The jewels seem to be randomly generated and reward more than the gold.

The chalices always fuck me. Always. Why is a goddamn goblet so hard to fucking move.

I found that the physics is kinda fucky, so you can literally push down on them until they disappear.

1080p?

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>Image is bigger but file size is somehow smaller than
What is this black magic.

Oh, my bad.

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But they're worth a lot of coins and the few times they did disappear on me, I wasn't able to get enough money through random coins alone.

DID HE KILL THE HATMSTER?

No, but the Hatmster lost two hats.

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WHAT THE FUCK
KAZERAD THIS CAN'T STAND

Holy shit I never thought I'd miss adobe fucking flash. This "game" is a giant wad of javascript code, slightly over a megabyte in size. 331 pages long if you were to type it out in MS word. Over a million characters long. That's not counting the .png files it uses to make the actual graphics. By the way I got the mouse. Would anyone like me to nab other assets from this thing?

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the goblets

need them to make gags about prequel updates getting blocked by them

Something flashed on screen when I got the mouse in the bag. It said "Nipped it in the Bud" and there was a pot leaf in the text box

I'm the dumbass losing my mind trying to get the best ending.

Highest score I've gotten so far was 31.4k but it wasn't enough. There seems to be no method to this madness. If your score doesn't magically shoot up to 30k within the first 15 seconds, you have no chance and may as well just give up. If you get up to 30k, it seems you need to have good luck with the chalices to get them into the bad because spending too much time fucking with them just kills your chances.

yo this cat's a fucking slut

gave him a hat. it's okay little buddy

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Fuck it I just ripped everything and stuck it on imgur

imgur.com/a/TBf5Iow

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As I recall, Katia is allergic to moon sugar.

Also what shit that's happened to her is actually a result of her being stupid?

>Also what shit that's happened to her is actually a result of her being stupid?

Being trapped by Sigrid, being tricked by Sigrid, not waiting for ASOTIL and getting mugged, wandering off trail and losing all her shit at that ruin, getting drunk and losing everything, getting drunk and losing everything.

like that trap was foreseeable, charisma potion, how the fuck is getting mugged one's own fault, and the rest is fair enough I guess.

i have a question for the thread

i haven't followed the past few updates (though i'll get around to it eventually) because i keep feeling like i'm getting yanked around by the glacial updates. i know i'm getting free entertainment, i get it really, and i read it because i like it. but this is a good faith question.

is there a point to continuing a story that, realistically, will never be finished at this pace? both continuing to make and to consume.

like maybe there are some minor merits, or maybe there's the chance of this being a molasses drip that finally falls in 20 years. but otherwise, shouldn't kaz cut his losses and tackle something with more hope on the horizon?

are we stuck in a sunk cost fallacy loop?

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I'm not even sure how the scores work, I keep getting all the gems and goblets in, even the cat toy, but I never surpass 17K.
The music is cool for the first time around, but then it gets really annoying after, so I won't bother getting a high score.

I was hoping we'd get back to the same level of writing quality we had during the dream segments and the Dark Elf ghost who made it snow in Kvatch. Those were the webcomic's strongest moments.

About 5 updates from now, so approximately next year.

It seems arbitrary. Most of the point come right at the start. Just dive in to the far right and start scooping in what you can.

But I still can't for the life of me get the best ending. It's funny, Kaz usually can't help but show up in our threads but this time the stupid fuck can't even explain this bullshit to us.

I haven't really kept up since she was stuck in the cage. I think I just stopped caring.

I do feel like the biggest problem is the bag. There's supposed to be a flash when you get a gem, but half of the time, there is no flash for me. Despite the gems clearly landing in the fucking bag.

At this point, reading any new update is a minuscule time investment. It's not like I'd be doing anything worthwhile with the time, anyways.

It doesn't take more than 10 minutes to read through the update and analyzing the images, even with the flash game at the end if you don't care to achieve the highest score.

Guys, what if they arrest Rajirra because Khajiit all look the same
Oh no!!

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RSS feed reader lets me know when updates drop and the only updates that take up any time are the flash games.

Wait I got it

It's not a prequel to Oblivion. Katia's gonna fuck up massively and have to leave the country. It's a prequel to Skyrim

skyrim is set 200 years after oblivion

She could get drunk and wake-up with an Orc again. And then get robbed by him.

But Akatosh though

So what has Todd said, if anything, about Prequel?

Nothing, but I’ve been told there’s some text or dialogue referencing it in ESO, although I’m sure it’s just a rumor because neither my friends or I could find it.

It's been mentioned twice in tweets by the tes twitter.

Post them.

youtube.com/watch?v=xZtiOLv1_NA

Good update. See you all in 2020 for the next one

twitter.com/ElderScrolls/status/142683335909572608
twitter.com/ElderScrolls/status/149170403187757056

Those are rather ancient.

I fail to see how that's relevant.

>fucking 2011
>eight years
fuck this comic
fuck this internet
fuck this life

Because it means that Bethesda as a whole don’t acknowledge the webcomic, just some intern that handled the twitter handle ages ago and is now an employee.

>two months and a half of hiatus
>didn't remove any of the hatmster's hats

Kaz is a fucking hack

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Every time I wake up and see an update notification, I feel like I'm still sleeping because such things usually don't happen in real life.

>are we stuck in a sunk cost fallacy loop?
YES

F
U
C
K.

Your shtick has gotten older than Kazerad’s excuses, dude.

what if they think Rajirra did a thing with a pineapple and yo-yo?

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but he did

>a three month delay because of yet another flash game
Kaaaaaaaaaaaaz

I know right?

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technically it's not a flash game

Thanks user

Anyone figure out the fucking score system yet, or how to reliably get the best ending?

Just stop reading and come back after you know it's finished if it bothers you that much. I don't sit around waiting on updates from Gone with the Blastwave either. Don't fixate or focus on webcomics that don't regularly update, you'll only make yourself unhappy. I just check every few months to see if there's an update, that's it.

The nice thing about prequel is that despite the genuinely awful update schedule, it never feels like the updates themselves barely have anything in them. I don't mind checking it out every few months to see if there's a new update.

I can't bring myself to care about a story that both refuses to end and leans on the enticing lie of progress.

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literally fucking how

It's easier on touch and stylus devices.

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>It seems arbitrary. Most of the point come right at the start. Just dive in to the far right and start scooping in what you can.
>But I still can't for the life of me get the best ending. It's funny, Kaz usually can't help but show up in our threads but this time the stupid fuck can't even explain this bullshit to us.

I like to see if people can figure mechanics out on their own!

Anyway, the “khajiitiness” score is the number of coins you’ve taken divided by the time, multiplied by something arbitrary to make it big. This means what you’re seeing is basically a representation of your average money-acquisition-frequency. Since the game lasts about a minute, this means winning is /functionally/ based on how many coins you get in 60 seconds (400/60 will always be larger than 300/60). Only, the displayed score is presented as a number you have to keep high and maintain, rather than get higher and higher over the course of the game.

Goblets are worth 50 coins, but they mainly serve as the antagonist that fucks out over right when everything seems to be going well.

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The strat is to git gud

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I think you meant that the strat is to not have a life, seeing that you're obsessed with a flash game.

>spending 2 minutes playing a game twice means you're obsessed no lifer

ok

>grinding for hours to achieve an arbitrary number isn't a waste of time!!!
Insecure no-lifer.

The real question is when are you going to post the uncensored Sigrid sprite.

Sounds like someone's mad they can't even break 20000 points.

There is literally no strategy. Barely touching one coin at the start can shoot you up to 20k. I’ve had excellent runs that barely get 15k and shit runs that get 31k.

The fact that you can’t post a real strat means you just got lucky and have no idea what you even did.

>checking
rss feeds, nigga

catnip. not pot leaf.
t. tried to grow catnip for mah cat. bitch ate it. the whole damn thing. even the stem

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So, what's your excuse this time? I could use a good laugh.

The usual flash bullshit, except this time he had to learn something that isn't flash to do it

Just wanted to say I love you Kaz

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Yeah pretty much. I thought it would be a lot simpler, like basically a physics tech demo reskinned, but it turns out a surprising amount of work goes into that.

I know I’ve said this before, but one of the reasons I enjoy this sort of work is that it can be a venue to try out stuff I haven’t done before. Sometimes it takes way longer than is worth it (see: painted backgrounds and rotoscoping in Infiltrate), and other times it unanimously regarded as pretty good (see: the branching dialogue in Extrapolate), but either way I learn a bit about what sort of time/resource investment different things take, as well as getting experience f I ever want to do them again (you've got to admit I came a way on design between Excelsior and Precede. The nightmare scenes there are still my favorite part of the comic).

I dunno. That whole year of being in a cage felt like a lot of "nothing" to me, but that's partly due to the illusion the command prompt creates. It makes me think I'm supposed to be figuring out a solution instead of waiting for next update.

Getting caught was a railroad
>yeah just touch this orb on a pedestal you HAVE to

And then we were waiting for Kaz to explain the code in his book were coordinates in fictional space time to let us summon a skeleton to do quite nearly fuck all.

I mean at least we got the charisma battle out of it which honestly has some of my favorite panels in the whole comic

Dude what is this black magic!

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Run it through Waifu2x and get even higher resolution

Kat is lewd! Leeewd!

>everybody else going for high score
>I'm trying to get lower scores every time it tells me I got "more than necessary" without going so low that I get one of the fail states

and in case anyone is wondering, so far 70 is my lowest "more than necessary"

>getting experience f I ever want to do them again
and how often do you get to use that experience between all this "trying out stuff I haven’t done before"?
I feel like the merch experience in particular is probably paying out, but seeing where the experience is paying out in making the comic itself is getting harder

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aye he did
NOW

well, that's gold.

>Waifu2x
What a garbage name for a program, honestly. Tells you a lot about the mentality of its creator and the people that use it.

>and how often do you get to use that experience between all this "trying out stuff I haven’t done before"?
>I feel like the merch experience in particular is probably paying out, but seeing where the experience is paying out in making the comic itself is getting harder

I would argue that most of the times I do an interactive thing more than once, I get better at it. Like, Enter Two (the one where she fights the imp) improved on the mouse-controlled gameplay mechanics introduced in Katia:Extrapolate. Or to use the example above, Enter (where she visits the Mages Guild) improved on mechanics introduced in Excelsior, and they were further polished in Precede. I’m pretty confident I could do a topdown adventure game even better than all three of those at this point, though I’d probably do it under an alias to confirm I’m not just benefitting from a larger fanbase.

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Not worth it for me, since I check all the webcomics I follow once every month or two. I like getting a larger chunk of a story at once instead of getting another page/three panels every few days.

>. I’m pretty confident I could do a topdown adventure game even better than all three of those at this point
PLEASE DON'T I DON'T WANT ANOTHER YEAR HIATUS

nice work my friend

Then you're reading the wrong webcomic my friend.

Kaz when are you going to make an update that's an Oblivion mod

GIVE US THE SIGRID TITS YOU FUCKING FUCKFUCKFUCKINGFUCKERSONRAARARARA

>though I’d probably do it under an alias to confirm I’m not just benefitting from a larger fanbase.

A first for you, I'm sure

>Kaz when are you going to make an update that's an Oblivion mod

I admit I keep wanting to make a cartoony graphical mod to kind of make it playable today. “Realistic” graphics age like milk.

You’re not missing much! It’s really just like some smears to make sure the colors look right. I’ll post it on /trash/ later if you want.

It’s not. I do this all the time.

GIVEITGIVEITGIVEITGIVEITGIVEIT

>Keep your hand buried in the money. As in, the money pile overlay, not the coins.
>Do counterclockwise, cuasi-horizontal movements spanning most of the overlay's length on the far end
>Build up a good pumping rythm. Point is to make space for more coins to flow in whilst pushing coins your way
>Go faster as you dig into the far end, and slightly slower as you push the money your way.
>Ripping the bag will fuck you up, and is buggy enough it'll still act ripped your next game. Reload the page.
I get fairly consistent 30k-36k results with this. Hardest part is building up the right rythm.

>I’m pretty confident I could do a topdown adventure game even better than all three of those at this point
it's adorable how you think that'd be some sort of accomplishment

Kazakhstan does not count as an actual alias, you know

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>though I’d probably do it under an alias to confirm I’m not just benefitting from a larger fanbase.

These days you need a prestablished fanbase to get any sort of sales or recognition. Even then pople are good about sussing out someone based on their art and writing styles.

Of course this assumes you would care about the game selling well.

Hope it's for an actual purpose besides testing the limits of your abilities, my dude.

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I'd believe that desu

>These days you need a prestablished fanbase to get any sort of sales or recognition. Even then pople are good about sussing out someone based on their art and writing styles.

I don’t think this is true. Like, it’s kind of an open secret that I’ve ran a few alts and I think the low levels are my favorite part. I want to get really good at them and then write about how to do it.

Katia is one of the most physically attractive Yea Forums characters I've ever seen.

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Could you share what you've learned so far? I'm not convinced that quality is enough to gain an audience.

t. furry

You DID embrace your Khajiitiness right anons?

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No, because it's a terribly designed game. Kaz even admitted that the multiplier is arbitrary. I've gotten more coins and treasure on runs where I barely get anything in the bag, yet runs where I scoop handful after handful in the bag barely gives me 15k.

Kaz says it's based on coins and time, but time is the same every run. That variable doesn't change. So getting more coins should mean more score. But it doesn't work that way.

well yeah, you've gotta be more khajiit-like.
moving the mouse side to side like a spaz seems to consistently give me 30K+ scores

>>I admit I keep wanting to make a cartoony graphical mod to kind of make it playable today. “Realistic” graphics age like milk.
To achieve this effect, just remove the textures youtube.com/watch?v=qqOvzfyfBm4

>Kaz even admitted that the multiplier is arbitrary

Arbitrary doesn't mean inconsistent. Like, it doesn't matter if your score is multiplied by 20 or 1000: if it's multiplied by the same number each time, it's still your score.

I just looked, and the exact Khajiitiness formula is apparently coins*2000/time.

>Could you share what you've learned so far? I'm not convinced that quality is enough to gain an audience.

I don't think quality on its own is enough either. Like, "if you build it, they will come" isn't entirely true. The biggest factor is making something presentable to an audience who will be interested in it, and in a way that can easily be shared. Once it's easily shareable, more nuanced aspects of quality will determine how much it is shared.

Check /trash/, not sure if I'm allowed to link it here.

you can link lewd shit, it's fine.

Don't click, just scoop.

Then why is it, sometimes, in the first 20 seconds the score can shoot up to 29k when I'm just randomly slapping coins around, yet when I actually scoop in tons of coins, my score is low as all hell?

If it's coins divided by time, and the game has the same length every run, literally all that should matter is getting more treasure in the bag.

Honestly, it should just have had a real scoring system instead of whatever the fuck is going on with the counter. It shoots up randomly, constantly falls, and is by no means an accurate measurement of how well you did.

the counter is an average you massive brainlet this has already been explained quit scrutinizing it so hard like its some triple a title

its the average of the rate of coins not the sum over one minute. Steadier pace means higher score because there's less 0 coin/second rates in the average.

I'm allowed to be unhappy you dolt. I've been trying this for hours and I can't get it.

you can be unhappy but don't be a fucking retard about it, all you have to say is "i'm bad at videogames"

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Come play the game Kaz worked on when he was 18:
foxmage.com/EMPrototype.zip

My curiosity is sated, thank you.

If you think the scoring system in the game is intuitive then you're retarded.

yes thats true

it is though, the more khajiiti you behave, the better your score.

Flailing your arms around like you're having a seizure isn't "khajiiti".

That's actually pretty khajit. Don't get me started on TES lore here, please.

when it comes to khajiits and money, yes it is.

How many years has it been since it updated?

>someone sees the webcomic
>"hey this looks good"
>kaz says "is about how insecure she feels"
>"wait how do you know which page im reading?"
>kaz is silent

nowhere did I say it was intuitive, i'm saying you're a retard because despite multiple people explaining the abritrary joke scoring system to you you seem to have the same ability to retain information as a corpse

clearly your inability to score high is user error, since myself and everyone else is having no problem

hey Kaz how long until you drink yourself to death?

He last updated it when he was 18, so you tell me.

>drink
>not attempt to make pancakes

I feel like he'll die by exploding a jar of pickles.
He takes the jar of pickles out of the freezer (they were in the freezer because he wants picklepops) and finds himself unable to open the jar since it has frozen shut, but since the kettle just boiled, why not pour the water on the jar to help it thaw faster? SMASH, glass shards and bits of pickle embed themselves deep in his flesh, vinegar entering his bloodstream through the many lacerations. Lying on the ground, bleeding out and poisoned, his only regret is that he didn't use that last coupon for a buy 1 tub of potato salad, get a free spoon before dying.

>picklepops
Is that a thing? Because I can't decide if that sounds delicious or disgusting.

I made it up, but it sounds like something Kaz would eat I would eat it too, fucking love me some pickles

>everyone else
>two, maybe three people
I know you're full of yourself, but that takes it to another level.

they're crack addicts

It's only crack to non-khajiiti, it's more like weed to them

But he does understand basic math, the guy who keeps screaming the scoring system doesn't make sense needs to go back to school.

Because it's not basic math. One coin should always have the same value, whether you get it early or you get it late. But coins have no individual value.

If you carefully scoop up 100 coins over four seconds, you get less points than if you scoop up 50 coins in two.

>carefully
No shit, that's not Khajiiti

>Because it's not basic math.
>coins*2000/time
I guess, if you failed high school.

Does it matter when it works?

m

Fuck you, you'd let her ride you if she offered.

speaking of drinking yourself to death HEY KAZ NOTICE ME SENPIA

how is cider doing are they dead are they being a doomer pounding the hooch hard as fuck still is he sober and not wanting to die is he working on anything

>speaking of drinking yourself to death HEY KAZ NOTICE ME SENPIA
>how is cider doing are they dead are they being a doomer pounding the hooch hard as fuck still is he sober and not wanting to die is he working on anything

Noticed!

Cider isn't doing anything at the moment (other than periodic drawfagging apparently) but he is perpetually closer and closer to starting a comic. Artists know how it be.

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You're just copying what Kaz said. Do you even know what it means? Can you even explain it? If you play the game ten times, each time grabbing only five coins, you'll get different scores depending on when you grabbed the coins. How the fuck is that consistent? That's not math, that's tantamount to throwing darts at a board.

multiplication and division, is, in fact, basic math
just because you think the scoring system should be "value of goods stolen in coins" does not mean there is not equivalence between that bland as fuck scoring system and the arbitrary but consistent kajhitiness scoring system

the example you provided isn't even true because in terms of coins/second (and thus that value multiplied by 2000 for khajitness) are equal because you're a brainlet. How you manage to operate a computer is astounding. You're more than likely spazzing out and spilling coins everywhere like a retard instead of putting them in the bag and you get mad when you don't get points for every coin that moved.

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Then how many "coins per second" do you need to get the best ending? If it's math, give me a fucking number you fuck.

why do you care? Why don't you just keep trying to get a higher score until you get the 'best ending'? I'm not doing your math homework for you, you fuck.

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Because, again, you're just parroting Kaz without having any understanding of this poorly designed game. But if pretending to understand something lets you experience some self-worth that you never legitimately earned, by all means, continue.

you are a waste of oxygen my man
get better at video games
I am done

>If you play the game ten times, each time grabbing only five coins, you'll get different scores depending on when you grabbed the coins. How the fuck is that consistent?

>the example you provided isn't even true because in terms of coins/second (and thus that value multiplied by 2000 for khajitness) are equal because you're a brainlet.

Their example is a little bit true. Like, if you grab 5 coins in the first second, then the khajiitscore is (5*2000)/1, or 10,000. If you spend five seconds doing nothing and then grab five coins, the score is (5*2000)/5, or 2000. So, grabbing the coins at different times does result in a different score, since the score represents the average frequency over the course of the game.

Because the game is the same length each time, though, winning functionally involves getting a certain amount of coins in that timespan. Like, no matter what, at the end your score is the total amount of coins times 2000 and divided by 51, regardless of when during those 51 seconds you got the coins. What the khajiitscore is basically showing you is what ending score you WILL get at your current rate: if it drops from 30000 to 20000 during the goblets, for example, then the goblets are what is messing you up. If it jumps up when gems are coming in, them gems are what you do best. In the end, though, your score is just how many coins you get in 51 seconds.

Or the simpler way to look at it is that you want the number to stay big, and if it starts getting smaller you try harder.

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Thank you for admitting that you can't explain it because you don't understand it. That takes real courage.

After the chalices, when the gems stop coming, my coins constantly craters. There's nothing but coins but there's just not enough of them to keep my score from falling. I've been at 32k only to see it fall to 28k several times.

I'd like to see somebody upload a video so I can see what I'm doing wrong.

Considering best ending trigger appears to be around ~34,000 points, and 1 coin = 2000 points according to Kaz then you'd presumably need it to register 17 coins per second. Or a total of 1020 coins during the 60 second playtime

fuck you kaz you hurt hatmster's feelings

Actually, a better analogy: imagine you're watching a baseball game. At the end of the first inning, the Orioles have 2 runs. IF they play that well for the remaining 8 innings, they will end with 18 points.

In the second inning, they get 0 runs, meaning they've gotten an average of 1 run per inning. If they keep this up for the rest of the game, they will end with 9 points.

In the third inning, they get 0 runs again, meaning they've so far gotten an average of .66 runs per inning. If they keep this up for the rest of the game, they will end the game with 6 points.

This is basically how the khajiitscore works: instead of being shown how many points you have, you are shown a projection of how many points you will have at the end of the game. This projection gets more and more accurate the closer you get to the end, until you have finally completed the game and the projection gets its last bit of data (e.g. no longer needs to guess your 9th inning score by your performance in the other 8). I hope this helps.

>fuck you kaz you hurt hatmster's feelings

I am sorry, I'll try to never do it again.

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That just happened to me again. God damn it.

So if I don't see the score shoot up to 30k right at the fucking start, I might as well give up, as you can't catch back up later.

I don't know why I suck so bad at this, or why I'm trying so hard when there isn't even any real reason to beat it, but I've been at this for hours and I can't wrap my head around it.

Yeah.

And now I was doing good and the second chalice fucked me up. You can only move the chalices by touching the top or bottom, but half of the time they don't react properly when you touch them.

This thread will eventually just be me crying about how I can't beat this fucking game. I'm like that fuck from Mallrats who couldn't see the sail boat.

>I am sorry, I'll try to never do it again.
lies you enjoyed it you fucking sadist

It's not hard, just spasticly waggle the mouse back and forth and you'll get it.

>So if I don't see the score shoot up to 30k right at the fucking start, I might as well give up, as you can't catch back up later.

You could always do really well in a later inning and catch up, so to speak. Mathematically it's no different from if the win condition was getting 1020 coins and you got a less-than-optimal amount in the first few seconds. Don't let the projection discourage you.

I had no idea this would become so mathy.

whats that old flash game where you try to make the girl cum by rubbing her that is really hard to win that people will play over and over again trying to beat it going insane but when in reality its not that hard to win

Problem is, as I've said, the gems dry up after the goblets. I've seen, at most, two gems after that phase. It's just a bunch of coins and coins alone can't turn things around.

I had 29k after the goblets but, again, only two gems came down after that. I really feel like the game should put more gems at the end as a reward for actually getting past the goblets.

poor user one day you'll get gud

That literally doesn't work because the goblets will fuck you up.

Mock me all you want. I earned both pins in the earlier games and even got the special second place pin for getting second place in the parkour game.

I'm just... bad at stealing coins.

>he can't do it himself
This is funny. What school did you drop out of? I went to public school in America too, you have no excuse.

Coins*2000/Time. Or Coins*2000/60. 1 coin would give you HOW MANY POINTS? Come on, do this simple problem. 1 times 2000 divided by 60. Now, how many points do you need for the best ending? 35000. Divide 35000 by....come on, you can do this.

user you need to find your inner jew for only then will you be shown the true path

It's not 60 seconds. It's 51 seconds. Funny how you mock me when you're too stupid to read. God, what an embarrassment.

Anyway, I was doing well again, even clearing the chalices, but it fell apart on the gold. I just don't feel like enough stuff comes down to reliably maintain your score at that point.

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Finally did it. Only took me ten hours. And I literally did nothing different and frankly thought I had far better runs than this one.

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Was it anything like pic related?

The one with Zone? Or the one where she's stuck on a window?

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>Only took me ten hours

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user, it literally does work, I got 40k just moving the mouse back and forth as fast as I could without the mouse leaving the window

I guess those chalices just magically move out of that way for you. Maybe you've achieved CHIM.

so uh
whats the premise of this

Oblivion, but you're a socially akward cat trying to get out of a never ending chain of failure

It's a prequel to TES IV: Oblivion and Katia may or maynot be the game's protagonist. Expect a lot of jokes and lore from the series.

Congrats user, I’m proud of you.

But brush up on your maths if you were that person.

>Fuck you, you'd let her ride you if she offered.
STAY AWAY FROM OUR WOMEN!

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>but he is perpetually closer and closer to starting a comic.

Which means never, but yeah I knew this was him.

He never came back to the hazbin thread though, that fucking faggot

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that's because Hazbin is lame and it doesn't even have furshit

There are a couple background characters that I want to rape into infinity

No. I don't believe my confusion was unfounded. They kept writing the equation as "divided by time", but that made little sense to me because the score would often jump up to 30k within the first five seconds. If the game always had the same time, and each coin was 2000/51, it shouldn't have mattered when you get a coin. A coin at the start and a coin at the end would have the same value.

The box at the top left is extremely misleading, however, and serves no real purpose to the game. It's data is a lie, a false prediction of the future based on current metrics.

Each coin is truly worth 39 points. Had Kaz just made it a normal game where your goal is to earn more points, and have each coin increase your score by 39 points, it would have been functionally identical without nearly as much confusion.

>it would have been functionally identical without nearly as much confusion.

How new are you

Hey there Yea Forums, Todd Howard here. Just thought I'd pop in to make sure you all have your copies of The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim.

Because if you view this comic without owning a copy of Skyrim, you're basically stealing.

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but Todd this has nothing to do with skyrim so how is it stealing

>Prequel has been running since before Skyrim was first released
>since then Skyrim has been re-released more times than Prequel has updated

Shut up Todd. I already got skyrim for my fridge, toaster, pacemaker, invisible fence dog collar, and moveable type printing press.

Yes Todd, I have Skyrim installed on literally every single electronic device I possess.

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But Todd I already buy ten Skyrims every day. My family needs food.

I love this webcomic. It takes advantages of the internet and does shit like this. Can't believe its been 8 years already. Glad I draw Kaz with socks and sandals.

That vague as fuck reply sated your curiosity as to how Kaz would make something popular online the era era of the Google algorithm?

Because yeah, easily shareable shit with no continuity works - that's why Facebook promoted Sarah's scribbles. But Kaz's reply doesn't read as being informed.

Todd, this POS laptop I'm using struggles to stream Netflix. It actually *can't* run Deus Ex- the original, from 2000.

Do not talk to me about your next-gen high-fidelity fantasy adventure RPG. My Plato's Cave has no exit.

I was referring to the sprite

>That vague as fuck reply sated your curiosity as to how Kaz would make something popular online the era era of the Google algorithm?

I mean, he was referring to uncensored Sigrid. But re: what you said, I’m not sure the “era of the google algorithm” is a real thing.

Like, before The Algorithm people would advertise by buying adspace or sponsorships on sites that had a shared clientele (see: attached image, an ad I put on Furaffinity). These systems are still around today, and still work very well. The Algorithm was added on top of these existing systems basically to help people who were not good at advertising. If something seems to have a solid target audience, the algorithm tries to promote it to that audience. It’s the advertising equivalent of welfare.

I’ve benefitted from the algorithm here and there (e.g. I got a bunch of readers from a Enter Two playthrough getting heavily promoted), but I don’t think it’s something creators should bank on. You should try to carry your work on your own, creating trends that the algorithm can monitor and learn from.

Unrelated, I apparently got a warning for posting that JRPG-style Prequel drawing, as it wasn’t related to western cartoons and comics. I take this as a compliment, if it could be mistaken for a JRPG.

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>warning for posting that JRPG-style Prequel drawing, as it wasn’t related to western cartoons and comics.
This board sucks

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Kaz you have no idea what you're talking about. Project Wonderful is dead. Most third party advertising services are dead because Google no longer allows them to operate through their channels. MCNs died because they were competing to seek ads on YouTube and Google thought they should die.

A wide number of multi-million dollar companies, or so, times even billion dollar companies like VEVO, have perished because Google thought they should.

This shit is not mythical. It's a hard reality of modern online commerce.

Also you can't just rely on a goddamn furry porn website to promote your webcomics. This may work for Katia because let's face it, your viewers want to fug the cat, but saying that is as moronic as acting like Google has no power when Porn Hub exists.

Because yes, you could advertise on Porn Hub and Furaffinity, but imagine a successful ad campaign. You associate all your works with porn sites and people are going to think you draw a porn comic.

Granted, porn is still viable, but if you're implying your future plan is to draw porn, then just say that instead of acting like a coy fuck who'd somehow figured out how to get the best of Alphabet and Facebook.

>Kaz you have no idea what you're talking about. Project Wonderful is dead. Most third party advertising services are dead because Google no longer allows them to operate through their channels.

The absence of Project Wonderful does not take away your ability to buy adspace on sites, it just takes away the middleman. Similarly, the death of MCNs does not take away your ability to sponsor content, it just moves it back to a relationship between you and the person you’re advertising with.

These services were always for people who didn’t want to handle the minutiae of advertising themselves, and google outcompeted most of them and ascended to the ultimate middleman. However, you are still free to cut the middleman out.

Like, I’m not saying this is some huge secret that makes you a thousand times more powerful than someone who knows how to manipulate google’s search algorithm. Just, I have yet to encounter any problems from ignoring that whole mess, whereas people who rely on it always seem to struggle.

It’s not as though Furaffinity is the only non-Google place on the internet to advertise. It would also be wrong to spin them as a competitor to Google: Furaffinity runs Google ads right alongside its manually-handled ones.

If you don’t want to put effort into advertising, then Google ads provide a way to enter some keywords and have your ad appear on relevant sites. But that doesn’t remove your ability to manually seek out sites/creators that have content similar to yours and collaborate with them directly.

It’s kind of like how you CAN find a relationship through a dating website, but the existence of dating websites doesn’t remove your ability to go out and meet people the old fashioned way. If anything, dating websites tend to attract particularly awful people because it’s only the ones too antisocial to handle it themselves, and ads are kind of the same way.

Kaz, do you play ESO? You hated it at launch, but it's gotten better over the years and they've even confirmed some of your weird lore assumptions, like how Khajiit raised away from other Khajiit will lose their raspy voices entirely, making Katia's Redguard voice actually plausible.

Since the latest expansion was Elsweyr, I'm wondering if you went through it and wanted your perspective on how they handled their lore.

didn't you already try to explain this exact thing to him a few updates ago?

Is there any Prequel cartoons?

>Kaz, do you play ESO? You hated it at launch, but it's gotten better over the years and they've even confirmed some of your weird lore assumptions, like how Khajiit raised away from other Khajiit will lose their raspy voices entirely, making Katia's Redguard voice actually plausible.

Some friends and I have been getting back into it, focusing on the expansions. We’ve done Morrowind and most of Summerset and they’ve been pretty solid in terms of writing. The part that aggravates me is just that the writing refuses to accept that the game is an MMO; when solving a quest I am basically just expected to ignore six other people sneaking in to steal the same book as me. It’s worse because I’m playing with friends: we are all fighting together, but when doing dialogue it feels more like we’re each playing a single player game and manually trying to stay in sync.

I mean, you know I mostly advertise with furries. I have some friends who do board game communities and stuff, building off that same basic premise of “advertise with the people who literally have your audience”. This isn’t some special thing, it’s not even something I’d usually think to give as advice, it’s just kind of how advertising works. I genuinely don’t understand why someone would forego this in favor of an automated system in which a robot guesses which audiences your content would resonate with. And if you have been relying on the robot and it’s not working, I don’t understand why you wouldn’t stop.

The janitor deleted the replies that came after this, but every time I'm trying to get my head around why Kaz thinks it's still 2006.

There's a LOT you can say about these markets whether it's about their models, or the technology, or even the medium. Very few people still operate personal websites and there's been some news about anti-trust suits from the companies Google killed over the past decade.

But all I can get out of Kaz are vague promises that Google isn't real, or that he can advertise on porn sites.

And depending on what you're doing Kaz could be right. Porn survives on lower traffic flows and is still fragmented, especially for art. Niche fetish stuff can be especially lucrative. But if you're drawing an ordinary webcomics your venue these days is, like, Facebook, and that's not as open or free a market as it pretends it is.

Honestly, I'm just checking occasionally to see if we will ever get official, uncensored and trick free nudes of Katia by Kazerad. Then, I will be good.

Prequel sure is a webcomic and advertising young webcomics is a complicated practice worth talking about! Especially comics made outside Japan.

>And depending on what you're doing Kaz could be right. Porn survives on lower traffic flows and is still fragmented, especially for art. Niche fetish stuff can be especially lucrative. But if you're drawing an ordinary webcomics your venue these days is, like, Facebook, and that's not as open or free a market as it pretends it is.

If you are making a comic so generic and untargeted that your audience is literally “Facebook”, I think that is a larger advertising problem than where you buy ads. Like, that’s the equivalent of making a generic iPhone puzzle game and hoping yours is one of the 1/10000 that makes big money, rather than making something like a roguelike that would have a solid target audience who is thirsty for content that caters to them. If nobody in the desert is buying the sand you’re selling, the first step is to maybe fire it into glass or something.

Like I said in my original post about this, the biggest factor in this is making something an audience will be interested in. “An audience will be interested in” isn’t some way of saying “something people can like”, I mean literally have an audience in mind rather than throwing it at everyone and hoping one of them will care. Once you have that, you will have much more viable advertising options, and people will be more likely to engage with the ads than if it was presented to them as “normal but enjoyable”.

Yeah I guess it’s not comicky enough. At least there’s the archive.

If you want to start an argument about this on my comment section I won’t offtopic nix it. You might even get some interesting feedback from people as to how they found my comic.

Attached: a comic about a western cartoon.

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huh thats odd I got a warning for something on-topic

anyways webcomics themselves are niche as fuck facebook isn't the place for art twitter is

welp that was a "fun" thread see you in the next two months

Would the janitor care to make a post in the thread explaining his personal, unofficial rules? Because they surely aren't fucking written down anywhere.

Hell, my post asking him about ESO got deleted and that was directly related to the lore of the webcomic.

I am going to hazard a guess, here:
"No."