Is writing fanfiction dumb?

Is writing fanfiction dumb?

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i think its retarded but its artistic expression
some of the time

Only if it's dumb fanfiction

No. Don't worry.

Unless it's crossover.

Making comics is dumb too, literal autism.
I'll still read them, it doesn't make me an autist to enjoy consuming, but creating is definitely retard tier.

not any dumber or any different than most of the crap that passes for professional writing these days

shit like self inserts and oc fanfics are dumb. but, you can make good fan-fictions

It’s never dumb to express yourself artistically. You may write about dumb things, be a dumb person or the art itself may be dumb, but the act of creation is not dumb in and of itself. It’s actually incredibly respectable, if done in earnest and to the best of your ability. Don’t be ashamed to write, user.

if creators are retarded, you're a step below for reading them

Writing fanfiction isn't dumb, but it can be dumb, that's the difference.

As long as you don't get too high an opinion of yourself as a fanfiction writer. I like writing fanfics, but I know they'll never be "art" or great literature. I'm actually a "real" writer too, who writes original fiction and poetry, and that's what I'd prefer to hang my hat on as an artist. Fanfiction is just having fun.

What if its a crossover like this?

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Then it’s kino. Release your next chapter you self conscious baby. The popularity will pick up when there’s an ending.

How does a fanfic writer become a real writer?

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I just did
m.fanfiction.net/s/12936696/1/Total-Drama-Shitshow

If it can't get adapted into a smutty comic then there's no point.

A lot of fanfics are written better than actual comics and other pieces of medium.

Based

>tfw this is exactly what happened with the Horse Show
>tfw there are multiple Horse Show fanfics that do better, more interesting things with the world and the characters than the actual show has done

I mean there's a lot of godawful fanfics too, don't get me wrong. But there's a lot of godawful everything, and the good stuff is worth dealing with the bad.

I want to get into reading fanfics but don’t know where to start. I love fancomics especially pornographic ones, but aside from the Harry Potter fanfic pasta from Yea Forums I know none. I read one about Vicky from FoP becoming a serial killer that I liked. Not sure what else is good though.

I mean, if you think about it, aren't all superhero comics just fanfiction? Authors writing stories with characters created by other people.

So you're just completely braindead then, huh?

I'm actually surprised with how much of a following it's gotten recently. In the last few days it's gotten like 900 fucking views. WAY more than it ever did when I was originally working on itZ All from me posting it here on Yea Forums. Shits crazy
The story might actually have a future now. I just gotta wrap up my current one and I'm free to resume work on this

Eh, I've never found that unless the original material is exceptionally weak, fanwork tends to lean to much on cliched fanon.

Where’s a good place to post fanfic and see reader response? Creative and Lewd, I can do both

everything that requires creativity is dumb

Man this is such a Yea Forums related topic.

Only if it’s A/B/O trash

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spec_script

one of the things I learned about listening to tv writing podcasts is the sheer number of times people are asked to write glorified fanfic of popular shows

Shilling works, just don't be a dick about it and you'll be fine!

Unfortunately reddit. Yea Forums never took the fanfic pill.

Fapfics are A-OK.

It is. Professional writers were once fanfic writers

what

I mean a real writing website. Please don’t make me go there

Yes, you faggot.

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>start reading fapfic with all the fetishes I want tagged on it
>it's in second person

I'm starting to realize I share my fetish with a lot of broody women in their late 20s/early 30s

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I'll try to keep that in mind
I just worry that if I shill too much I'll come off as annoying and just get ignored. That's why I never shilled it here originally; I was too scared of looking like an idiot promoting his shitty fanfic. But now that I know that there's a real audience for it, that's alleviated it a bit

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I'm not sure that exists. I mean there is Fanfiction.net but i'm not sure how active or engaging the community is. I just read there sometimes when I get linked from somewhere else, usually here.

No, there's great fanfiction out there.

Strange
I'm actually writing a fapfic from the perspective of a late 20/early 30s woman....
What was it called?

How to shill respectfully on Yea Forums:
1. Keep it relevant to a thread
2. Don't create a thread specifically to shill
3. Don't post the same canned thing every time
4. Don't become a tripfag
5. Engage if people want to engage, don't force it if they don't
6. Try and have something new or exciting when you post

If you can do that, at worse you'll get memed a little but you'll probably get positive engagement or lurker support.

I forget now, but the problem wasn't the protagonist, but rather the narration. 2nd Person always feels weird and awkward, especially when it's based around hyperpreg or something like that

no

If you try writing porn you can make money off it.

Women are the best porn writers, in general. They are so sensual and mental. Men tend to be about situations, woman tend to make any situation interesting with details men rarely think of. The true porn kino comes when an author can do both though, I consider Raita a god of the porn comic because he has the detail oriented sensibility of a woman, with the conceptual creativity of a man, and a uniquely erotic artstyle you can't get anywhere else.

Yes

I see...
So perhaps I should only shill then when I've got a new chapter out, or if someone asks about it? Of course, if there's a thread related to fanfic, I'll try to promote it there, but should I really only get at it when I've got something new to show?

Yes. The only exception should be the unicorn of an opportunity like the autism thread you posted in recently. If an opportunity arises like that, there is no reason not to. Be casual, don't spam, don't ask for money, you'll be good.

If you're out of high school then year it's stupid.

I see
The fans of that story that I wrote said they enjoyed it, and I really only did so by accident (it originated from some off hand shitposts)
Writing in 2nd person (from the perspective of a WOMAN no less, in EROTIC situations) has certainly been interesting

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Well maybe I’ll start posting some stuff. Like that Killer Moth/Babs Fox, or the one with Slipstream and a random human

Thanks
I'll try and restrain myself till those moments come. I think I'll shill one more time tonight (since I just only recently posted the chapter), and then I'll just bide my time afterwards and try and take advantage of those moments

Can you recommend some of them podcasts? It sounds intriguing.

How? I’m interested since I can’t draw

I never got my GED so I’m set for life!

*Fic

nah
i like making shitpost fics as a warmup time to time

No. There are many fanfictions that are pretty well written and you read them for free.

>Think about some of the fanfics I've got incomplete on FF.net's editor
>Try to actually write something to a point where it's actually worth posting
>Nothing is actually written

Annoying.

>choose your topic
>set filters to high word count and complete
>avoid anything with OCs
>decide if the synopsis is worth it
You'll get mostly good stories with a few bad ones that somehow break 100K words by insane authors.

3 sentence rule helps

Genuinely no. But, just like comics, the majority of it is crap. Personally I think you can get a lot more out of fan works nowadays than official stuff.

99% of the time, yes.

I appreciate the advice!

What's that

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archive of our own is the most alive one currently.

Fanfiction isn't an inherently dumb concept but the people who write it usually are. But what else can you expect something made predominantly by sheltered 13-17 year old girls with no formal or informal writing instruction, no concept of editing or self critique, and no concept of a coherent 3 act structure? Of course it's going to be 99% rambling word salad and bland wish fulfillment, that's how the authors think. Ideally the raw creative energy that goes into fan fiction would be harnessed into something useful by a culture centered around critique and self-improvement, but the physical/mental immaturity of the community members instead created the opposite.

In the end it's just escapism that the users/creators hopefully grow out of as they mature. Otherwise it's just arrested development with shitty original characters.

I like to express myself creatively.

It's dumb. But it's fun.

3 act structure is a meme

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It can be. But it can also be decent.

The problem is most fanfics are either.
1. Shipping crap that ignores the actual content of the show in favor of author's ship of choice.
2. Salt about how the canon plot was done that the author didn't like and needs to "fix"
3. Self inserts.
4. An impossibly ambitious idea that is cool in theory but the author will lose interest in or otherwise be unable to finish it due to other circumstances.

It doesn't help that lots of fanficcers tend to be the emotionally unstable type that will lose their shit if someone says something they don't like.

Pro tip: Also avoid anything that admits to "bashing", it doesn't amtter how high the wordcount gets, it doesnt matter how high the ratings are. AVOID IT.

Yeah but before you can start experimenting with the medium you should at least get the basics down. Picasso was a master of realistic drawings, and that insight into the workings of perspective allowed him to do what he did with cubism. Subversion and experimentation with the basic structures of storytelling should be done by people who intimately know how those basic structures work. A person can't "Design the car of the future" so to speak, if they can't even design the car of today.

Force yourself to write 3 full sentences. Usually that’s all you need to start. It works surprisingly well

Also try avoiding anime crossovers unless you like Harems, especially with capeshit, because you got the Anime Protags calling the heroes weak for not killing and beating everyone’s asses.

I’m glad this thread exists. Maybe now I’ll be motivated enough to finish the next chapter of my own fanfic. I’m so close to being done, but I always feel so damn lazy after work.

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>Is perfectly set tone
>Something happens in the authors daily
>Entire fic goes grim dark

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No. Fanfiction can serve as an excellent writing exercise to practice the basics and work on your plotting and storytelling without also having to juggle the creative tasks of coming up with your own characters and worlds.

If you can write good fanfiction, you have the skills needed to write your own original story. You just need to figure out what that story is.

Or not! When you think about it, there are whole industries out there like writing scripts for longrunning franchises where you are expected (indeed, required) to use characters you didn't yourself create. For a lot of jobs out there the difference between fanfiction and being a professional writer is just a paycheck, implications of qualities associated with the word 'fanfiction' aside.

Fanfiction has a bad reputation because there is so much low quality shit out there under that title, due to the low barriers to entry. But I wouldn't say that fanfiction is inherently inferior as a writing project just because a lot of examples of it are bad. A lot of stories in general are bad, that doesn't wash out the existence of books that are really good.

I would actually encourage any new writer to do at least a few fanfiction stories just to get them to be able to identify how the characters they are using work, being able to mimic the 'voice' of the work they are imitating.

If writing fanfic is stupid, then I'm glad so many people are stupid, because it gives me things to read on my daily commute.

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It's the dumbest, most autistic pastime in the entire world.

Fanfiction writers do not necessarily want to be writers.
I had a relatively decent fic that got around 70k views. Haven't written a sentence since. Just a movie that I liked, got an itch for, and scratched it.

No, thats trolling internet messageboards.

A fanfic story, even a bad one, still exists after page 10.

I write fanfic because comments begging me for more chapters is the only validation I receive in my pathetic, lonely life

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I mostly just write to get ideas I like saved before I forget them. The problem is that they never get past the basic idea and then I lose interest.

Nothing wrong with just writing oneshots

It's dumb, but it's a good exercise. And hell, most Yea Forums writing is fanfiction, strictly speaking, so it's not like we can really condemn it.

>Tfw that story with a perfect premise, perfect mc(as in actually well written, and not a mary sue), and perfect setting suddendly becomes shitty relationship drama as the author inserts some retarded waifubait character

There is a reason I filter away everything with a romance tag.

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Even one-shots are constructed into a readable form. My ideas are mostly just random dialogue snippets and scenes with nothing tying them together.

based

Yes. Kamala is a dumb girl and very uncute.

My nigga same here because I'm terrible at writing dialogue and making lead up scenes

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Expression is never dumb, specially if you enjoy it.
I write fanfics for a extremely obscure fandom just because I have tons of different ideas with the characters and I just enjoy the process of writing, I've read my own stories tons of times and it just brings me so much joy, also when other people enjoy the same stories you did with so much excitement it feels like you gave happiness to a lot of people, including yourself.

It just makes you feel good and happy. I know not all fanfic writers think the same but that's what I feel.

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Based, and dare I say it, redpilled.

You’re beautiful and you deserve those trips, user.

Only if they're side stories that have no effect on mainline cannon. AKA the kind I write

It's Good as long as there is no gay.

Lesbians are OK though as long as they are cute.

Only boring hetero stuff

Sure, it's autistic, but there are a lot of fanfics I'd say are just as good as or better than the main property. The only thing separating things like the Star Wars EU or mainstream cape comics to something a rando on Yea Forums made is a company's official endorsement.

t. fanfic writer

>self inserts
Is it any better if the writer makes the insert also have most of their IRL flaws, and doesn't make the insert a major character?

Man, it's been so friggin long since I wrote one of my /ss/ fap fics. I should probably do another one

Be sure to link it

I remember incredible fanfics more than I remember some actual movies

Based

it takes me a zillion years to write just another reason I stopped writing to focus on learning to draw
I try

I didn't know they allowed nazi propaganda on ff.net

You forgot
>writing characters based of their depiction in other fanfics, leading to fanfiction being dominated by wholly different fanon versions
Especially prelavant in comics.

>drawing
>faster
I draw and write and writing feels faster than drawing, but maybe is just because for me is easier organize dialogues and situations than compose an image.

different for everyone i guess. Composing an image is almost instantaneous for me. I see in my mind exactly where everything needs to go right when I begin, and the only hard part is getting my hand to form the shapes properly

Didn't the show runner of Doctor Who write fan fic of doctor who.

After watching the show it makes sense

I just spent the five hours in bed reading smutty fanfiction before I dragged myself up to eat

Mainstream cape comics is literally paid fanfiction written by the fans of the hobby who were fans of the older writers before them that can be traced back to the creators who first wrote them. Many of which were based on myth, folklore or ancient religions. Literally the only difference is whether they're being paid by DC or Marvel.

i used to think so, but i consider it another creative outlet now, and i know that's where some people get their start.
so go nuts

Kamala is for bullying

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>Forcing Kamala to eat bacon

It's no dumber than a lot of shit. If it's something you enjoy then good for you. It's definitely better than playing mindless games for 6 hours a day or bitching about shit on Yea Forums.

It's not bullying if she wants it

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But user, wouldn't that completely miss the point of an oc insert?

Fine.
>Forcing Kamala to walk around in public after you come on her face and don’t let her clean it off

You don't want to know

Now this is bullying!

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Of course not, you just don't take them too seriously.
Serious enough to deliver a quality story, though.

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>Tfw a great fic with great pacing, great wording and premise (pretty much everything) goes on permanent hiatud after author said "some shit came up in life, brb in a million years"

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I don't think that it's dumb in concept, but I do think it's very limiting to only do prose. Fancomics are generally much more respected and gain more traction than fanfics ever do, so you're better off learning how to draw so you can make one. Undertale is a good example of this, god knows how many of those AU comics blew up in their heyday.

This goes double for cartoons IMO, since they're a visual medium. Turning into a novel is a huge downgrade. It's like going from the N64 to the NES.

>t. writing the script for a post-S2 Wander graphic novel about Lord Dominator and Lord Hater grappling with their lives after the end of the show

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>be back after finals
It was fucking perfect. A fic about Red, ending his hermitage on Mt. Silver, and going around beating all the gyms to warm up and qualify for the Indigo League coming up, and amassing a harem in the meantime, with plans to go on to the other regions.
And this was almost 3 gens ago.

Give me the God damned source. Make me suffer. There is a coal of black in my stomach and it needs fuel. Let it burn bright and quick so it may fill me with warmth.

True.
False.

All good fanfiction would be better as a standalone story

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Tails Gets Trolled is technically fanfiction. Are you telling me that would be better if it were 100% original?

fanfiction.net/s/8329125/1/A-True-Champion
Got as far as Misty.
I can understand why someone would avoid ripping off the premise of an ongoing fic, but I wish more would try to pick up on dead fics.

Second fave Pokemon fanfic, first one being Traveler.

Is writing fanfiction for therapy dumb?

Yes

Maybe? Writers are well known for having characters being facets of themselves, for instance Anno has said that almost every Evangelion character is a part of himself, or how it's obvious from reading a few Stephen King stories that he's an alcoholic coke fiend.
What makes me hesitate is that you're projecting your problems onto pre-existing characters.

By "The Straight Elf"? Looks decent from the blurb.

Writing as a harmless outlet is good.

All that and more, he does badass battle techniques and makes the Legendaries into something truly godlike.

King also loves writing scenes where characters piss themselves in great detail, what am I supposed to conclude from this?

Inserting characters of your own creation into a universe that got by fine without them until you showed up is always bad. The only decent fanfic is stuff that follows canon and isn't for fapping.

Yes, but it’s entertaining so don’t worry about it.

Especially not if it’s a series or something that’s been cancelled

Fetish or trauma, flip the coin and remember that landing on the edge is always an option.

>think "no he doesn't"
>immediately remember four separate examples
well then

Well shit, I like to plan out plots but can never fill in the details.

That's just straight up wrong. Reassess your life.

Most good fanfiction are sequels, and they wouldn't be good if the original didn't exist.

The sizable portion of fanfiction that assumes knowledge of events and characters of their source materials to make sense leads me to disbelieve that a straight conversion to OC is possible without significant retooling.

Thank you user. You are a gentleman and a scholar.

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is there any good jasmine fanfictions? that AREN'T slave or hypnosis related?

No, I do it as a hobby
no you can't read it

>the koran is fanfiction of the bible
>the muslim marvel character loves fanfiction

hmmmmmm

Has anyone ever “rescued” a dead fanfic? Or is that considered in poor taste?

You just have to keep a few things in mind.
First off is the characters you're writing. How would they react to the situation you've put them in?
Next is the setting. By the laws and narrative of the world they're in, how would things progress?
Then there's your involvment. Consider the above and adjust it to the tweaks you've made to the character's growth and the worldbuilding.
If you're doing a wholesale re-write, you have even more framework to build on with the Stations of the Canon. Those little bits of the story that were set in place before it started, of course depending on how far back your writing reaches.
For instance, in the Digimon 02 fic I've fallen in love with, at the battle that would have been Magnamon vs Kimeramon, it was instead Gatomon turned Mastemon via the Digimental of Darkness vs Wormon digivolved to Armageddemon via the Crest of Miracles and some concentrated Dark Ocean goop.
The battle was bound to happen, but the circumstances were different.

Steven King gives no fucks. He sees the inherent horror and unease in the fetishistic psychosexual nature of the human mind. Sewer Gangbang is genuinely one of his best scenes.

>tfw urge to write and decent writer but no ideas

I’ve always wanted to do a fanfic, but I always end up working on my novel or film scripts instead. I’ve just never had an idea about how I would do something differently or what I would want to explore in a world/characters that I care about. Maybe that’s weird?

I’ve been drawing a little bit, but not enough to actually improve. I barely have enough time to write as it is. Me pipe dream is that someone with actual clout or talent will notice it and decide they want to illustrate or animate it in some way, even just part of it.

I know it’ll never happen though, so the best I can do is finish what I’ve started and one day maybe adapt it myself.

I do have some original ideas I’d like to expound upon though.

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Be thankful the author didn't delete it then post an update about it, making you think the story had a new chapter.

I guess objectively it is kinda dumb in concept, or at least could be seen that way be people (just like liking cartoons or comics as an adult hurrrrr), but it's also a way to practice your writing or develop your creativity or just make something that can entertain a bunch of people etc., so at the same time I don't think you can really call it an objectively bad hobby either. I guess if it consumes your entire life or you believe it's real/will become canon or whatever, that's pretty crazy, but you really don't see that a lot.

It's not the dumbest thing you could be doing. And yeah I have written fanfiction in the past, but not too recently. I'd like to get back into it because I think it'd motivate me to write more, like in general.

yeah, it's dumb. but if you use as a stepping stone to making original material that's fine I guess

I got the urge and ideas, but no drive on top of no faith in myself.

As for ideas, it kinda depends on the work you write for. Some stuff you just gotta diverge from canon at some point or write something that takes place after the creator stopped working. However some, and these can be really fun when the author manages to get significantly into it, is to take the easy opportunities for crossovers and just having fun with it. Like messing with the Springtime Summoning Ritual in ZnT or changing up what power Taylor triggers with in Worm. The level the crossover works blend together is also a great variable.

Yes, it's a cesspit for hacks and hedonists who are content with indulging themselves in low effort work for the sake of shallow praise.

They're a way to anonymously practice writing. If you only ever write fan fiction though, and don't at least try to turn that practice into making your own creations then it gets bad. At the end of the day, fan fiction is like playing with premade dolls. You're just moving around and repositioning someone else's work.

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Write a smutty lesbo fic and females will lap it up.

Undoubtedly. But it's okay to do dumb shit

>You're just moving around and repositioning someone else's work.
That's a really insulting analogy user, on top of not even being accurate. Fanfic tends to diverge too much from the source material to call it just a rearrangement of what the creator made. Better would be to say that fanfic writers are messing around with the creator's tools, trying to do what they did to some extent or another depending on their vision.

No, it's exactly like playing with someone else's action figures. They made them and put in all the work into creating their designs and personalities. The fan fiction writer merely takes these already established figures and makes their own narratives with them. The level of divergence varies, but at the end of the day your using someone else's work instead of producing something unique.

It's a pretty good analogy since no matter how far you diverge from canon, you're still taking someone else's character concepts and making them move to your tune instead of the original author's. It's really not much different from playing with action figures, much like how original writing isn't much different from playing make believe in the sandbox.

The trap I have fell into a couple of times is the "word count" obssession, feeling I have to hit 4000 words or some such number, and padding a chapter out with filler to the point the pacing goes to shit.

Having said that, while filler is bad, detail and exploration are often positive.

Just write it as long or short as it needs to be. If you have solid material, lots of meat to your ideas, you will cross over 1000 words pretty easily.

Advantage of fan fiction is you have a ready made audience to get feedback from. You aren't likely to get that from an original work.

The problem with that analogy is that you are dismissing all the talent and knowledge that goes into trying to portray the original characters and setting as accurately as possible and to grow them beyond what the original creator(s) did.

Right, that's where it shines. It's a way to practice and get feedback. Not all of that feedback is good of course, but like you said your chance of getting noticed starting out with an original piece isn't as high.

I don't consider that to require much talent, to be honest. All the hard work, the creation of the characters, their personalities, the world around them and the themes of the narrative are already done for you. Like, take as a random example, a fan fiction of the lion king where Scar wins and it goes into what happens. All the work in getting to that point was already done. Yes you're diverging and writing something that didn't exist before, but you didn't have to do any of the heavy lifting that goes into creating something unique.

Fanfic audiences aren't great critics and are prone to sycophancy. Ignoring that, it can only give you feedback on base writing skills and your talent for portraying unoriginal characters, which isn't terribly useful outside of fanfiction.

I'd say it's good for building confidence more than anything.

Drawing from a pre-existing characters and setting is much easier than coming up with good original characters and setting. You have an entire original work full of characterization and world building to work off of. It's literally what makes fanfiction easier than original writing.

I think you're hung up on the portion of writing that is creating characters and worldbuilding. Yes fanfiction absolutely requires much less talent in those areas. However, it also isn't the skill set that I've been praising. Being able to write someone else's character believable is very much a skill just as tough as making your own OC and is one the anons on this board really should be familiar with.

By changing just enough to not get a lawsuit while keeping the quality as high as you can for as long as you can.

But the difference is, the original writer must also make the character believable, and must do so from scratch. Meanwhile the fanfiction writer already has the character themes, the narrative arcs, the relationships and personalities already and set for them to use. The same skill required to write someone else's character believably is required in far greater amounts for the original writer.

>Being able to write someone else's character believable is very much a skill just as tough as making your own OC

It's neither just as tough nor even difficult in the first place. The bar for effective portrayal is not very high. You can glance through any top-rated fic for evidence of that.

Sometimes I want to turn my rewrite fic into an original story but I don't know how to do it without making it a knock off, similar to what said.

It's not particularly difficult to work backwards from making a good OC from scratch if you have the skill to expand upon and develop an existing one in a smart and believable manner. You already understand what makes a character work.

I don't really agree. The mimicry necessary for fanfiction doesn't require very deep understanding of characterization nor does it necessarily instill you with that understanding. I'd say the reverse of what you said: the process of making OCs teaches you a lot about characterization that can help you better understand how it's done in other works.

Yeah, that only applies if you're doing some basic bitch What If or AU scenario. An actual good fanfiction doesn't just mimic the characters, it aims to expand upon and develop them in a smart and believable way. To do so, you would need a deep understanding of characterization. If you already have that and can do so, you should be able to make an OC no sweat.

>An actual good fanfiction doesn't just mimic the characters, it aims to expand upon and develop them in a smart and believable way

If only such a thing existed

>author abandoned story
>It had a great premise well written
Please stop this

I've read a few about characters I liked that never got any screen time. Trust me, if they're good fics, you'll wish they were canon.

nah
there's ways to make it better than the source, and ways to fuck it up wholesale
it exists on the same bad-to-good spectrum as any other medium
it just leans very heavily on the bad

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This might be the most fascinating piece of fanfiction I've ever read.
fanfiction.net/s/13148071/1/If-we-never-had-genitals

NGE: Genocide is one

i'm currently working on a fanfiction series where i ship a self insert with a canon character. to be honest, i really want to rewrite it. i'd really like to be able to write more, like a lot of other people seem to. longer chapters that seem useful and fulfilling to the story. perhaps some day.

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Holy shit you're me.

“Filler” isn’t really a thing. More often than not “filler” just ends up being something one person in particular finds unimportant.

I’ve seen anthologies of fanfiction dedicated to what someone else has deemed “filler”.

Give examples.

Based.

>be me
>I've decided I don't give a crap if my art is shit
>I just want to write an original story
>tons of ideas for worldbuilding and interesting philosophical viewpoints to explore, good sense of humor
>realize I don't know how humans interact with other humans and I'd be faking and essentially flying blind any characters who aren't lifted from my personality
How to cope with this feel?

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Take your shit taste somewhere else.

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Don't have a human as MC.

no one cares about a world without characters my dude. u can do it tho.

this is relevant to this thread in general: i heard a podcast semi-recently from the writer of Chernobyl that breaks down how the fuck to actually write a story. Seems simple, and it is, it's just bare bones off-the-cuff stuff, but somehow i feel like it's the best no-bullshit quick breakdown of the process i've ever heard.

>johnaugust.com/2019/how-to-write-a-movie
or the transcript
>johnaugust.com/2019/scriptnotes-ep-403-how-to-write-a-movie-transcript

it's geared to feature writing but it can honestly translate to anything.

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Is that the "In fact, of course" one?

Fuck, it is.

Not as dumb as some shows.

Almost everything Star Wars is basically fanfiction. Yet people love it.
Make of that what you will.

Aspiring writer here. Bookmarking this shit for later. Many thanks.

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This

It was fanfiction

No.

only if you include fucking deadpool for no goddamn reason

For Lewd? Questionable Questing
For non-lewd/rated R stuff? Spacebattles is decent.

Professionally, if you want to become a writer, there's no better way to start than by writing dumb fanfiction after consuming any kind of fiction. You get better and better as it works liek practice. Every convention where a question is posed to the writing team, they emphatically encourage it, and even say to include your (well-written) fan-fiction in the CV portfolio.

Personally, it probably gets you invested in the material or in touch with your emotions or some sheet.

Only if you don't sell it

No it's not dumb. What's dumb is taking great offense to any criticism given.

I'm writing erotic Steven Universe fanfiction, and you cannot stop me!

Harems are for fat morons and hairlips.

Trying to get into fanfiction writing is a process of self loathing. I want to make a good story, but I can't get past my own feelings about how much I hate shit fanfiction and knowing that it's either great or it sucks. Wanting to write for a series that's been dead for over a decade doesn't help.

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I don't write fanfiction but I imagine it's fine as practice for creative writing

Not if you turn it into its own property and get a movie deal.

Writing itself is abnormally easy.
It’s writing WELL that is difficult.
I’m not sure if flowery, well polished language is a must, but most (if not all) good writing does feature it prominently.

the only kind of dumb fanfic is non fapfics.

Ah yes, the fanfiction that spun off an entire playable RPG.

Fapfics are the dumbest kind of fanfic. Just look at actual porn, loser.

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Blessed trips

It doesn't need to be convoluted, just some kind of excuse for why they're fucking.

Not if you see it as just a hobby/outlet.
Personally, I'm doing it because the IP I'm a fan of has a slim-to-none percentage of fanfic I actually like. So I"m writing my own, piecemeal.
Don't even get me started on good crossovers.

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