>ywn see the multi-season epic that was planned >ywn see Pumyra descend into madness and become a giant bug monster >ywn see Slithe's motivations >ywn see Lynx-o get killed for being a genocidal asshat >ywn see the rise of Mumm-Ra as Lion-O runs to the wastes to train and Tygra assumes the title of defacto king of Thundera like he always wanted >ywn see Tygra fuck literally everything up >ywn see the timeskip and Wilikit become the princess of the elephants >ywn see Lion-o return and take the mantle of outlaw king >ywn see Lion-o make all tribes his ally to fight Mumm-Ra and retake Thundera for all the species >ywn see Lion-O give Pumyra a mercy killing before marrying Wilykit >ywn see Tygra take a sword to the chest while cloaked to save his brother and admit that he was wrong about Lion-O the whole time >you now know that this was the plan for the 2011 series the whole time
>you now know that this was the plan for the 2011 series the whole time They would have fucked it up to somehow make Tygra STILL come out on top. Most of the writers sucked Tygra's barbed dick way too much. I wouldn't have trusted them to actually make a competent story.
Christian Rodriguez
>>ywn see Pumyra descend into madness and become a giant bug monster
Wait, what?
Sebastian Gomez
>>ywn see Pumyra descend into madness and become a giant bug monster That’s hot
Matthew Phillips
>All this stuff Great >Lion O marrying Wilykit Wait,what? But she is a kid!
Nolan James
So,is thundercats roar cancelled?
Christian Morris
>Lion O and Wilykit marry What the fuck No way it's true,what the actual fuck
Aiden Murphy
He's the king, he makes the rules.
Owen Anderson
There was going to be a 7 year timeskip. When we returned wilykit was going to be fully grown and so was lion-o. iirc Lion-o was technically a teen when the series first aired.
Eli Flores
She was going to ge deeper and deeper into mumm-ras camp and get mutations and augmentations that would essentially turn her into a giant bug monster.
All over her hate boner for Lion-o.
Levi Foster
Hearing all this makes me wonder if the show would've just ended up like Voltron. Not in the LGBT pandering shit just that by the time the last season roles around the hype dies out and show seems lackluster.
Owen Thompson
In the original, I think Lion O is the same age. His body ages due to hyper-sleep malfunction, but mentally/intellectually he's still a child. Like Shazam
Jose Gutierrez
>Thundercats 2011 final episode >Wilykit and Lion O marry Would've Yea Forums have exploded then?
Ryder James
I'm just gonna leave this. We all know where this is going.
It's still fucked up,it would've been like what? A 10 years difference between them?
Julian Watson
>Wilikit become the princess of the elephants Well, we finally know who Thundercats Roar's target audience is.
Xavier Roberts
elephants?
Brayden Myers
You are a sad and broken little thing.
Luke Gomez
>Wilykit marries Lion O That's fucked up and you know it
Justin Jones
You would marry a women 10 years younger than you instead of someone your age? You have a mentsl disease if you would.
Jayden Torres
>entire second season is writen >it just needs to be animated >young justice came back on netflix because of fan demand M-maybe thundercats 2011 will return on netflix,r-right?
Logan Clark
10 years younger or older is irrelevant.
Jack Morris
Wonder how old Wilykit wouldve look like
Michael Mitchell
No,it's not.
Camden Williams
Honestly, I see nothing wrong with having Tigra get something.
the cliche "Adopted child is ACTUALLY better than the blood child" trope is overdone.
Jason Stewart
Voltron ran into issues due to killing off its best villain early on. Thundercats would have kept Mummra as the villain all the way through, avoiding that. They should have tried to stretch lothor out a bit and make his arc last longer and not just devolve into insane villainy, and should have avoided having Honerva just keep playing stronger and stronger god mode monsters to explain her advantage.
Michael Baker
Is Dreamworks Voltron good? Refused to watch Nu Ra from them but I fear Voltron must be sjw shit too
Anthony Collins
>having sex with someone with fully developed sexual organs is wrong because they don't reach an arbitrary age number, even if they fully consent to having sex with you >even dating someone a lot younger than you is wrong, wether they're underage or not
Its not SJW, at least until the end. In S7 they have a scene showing that Shiro is gay with a who back on earth that broke up with him, but its not done too big of focus. Then S8 ends on a gay wedding kiss as its final scene that's so abrupt and not lead up to as to almost seem like a parody gag.
I'd watch it up to 7 and then pretend that 8 didn't happen. The first 2 seasons are considered the absolute best due to Zarkon's strong showing as a villain and them keeping allura benched as the Castle's pilot and support. S3-S7 are decent if not as good as 1/2, and wobble-- Some seasons are significantly better than others (up there with 1/2 even) while others drop a bit. S8 is seen as the worst due to a combination of putting extra focus on allura, one of the weaker characters, having the finale revolve almost completely around her for the conclusion, and Honerva just being a much weaker villain than the others before her (despite, ironically, having a shit ton of wasted potential that could have made her really good)
Its generally agreed upon that the weakest character in the show is keith himself, since he's a pretty shitty leader and just doesn't have much depth to him and seems generic.
>it's ok to bang underage girls if they consent! Ok Donald,you are stupid.
No way,Lion O looked like he was 20 while Wilykit looked like she was 9
Logan Lewis
Is your space key broken?
Logan Miller
Wilykit was 12 and lion-o was 18 when tge series started. So 6 yr difference. Either way even if it was 10 years there's nothing wrong with a 30 yr old dating or marrying a 20 yr old. Your opinion be damned.
Julian Allen
I'm not saying its info or shit like that, I'm sayings its small enough to not intrude on the rest of it so you can ignore it. Which is the best way to deal with SJWs since if you yell and hate about them you're giving them attention, which is what they want. Ignore them like retards and they'll go away.
Noah Wood
I remember that one episode with the plant people who age over the course of a day or whatever. Probably one of the better episodes of anything around that time in general honestly.
Samuel Campbell
>"Y-yeah? Well... uhhh... Trump!" Impressive, you sure showed me
Dylan Lopez
I was so hyped for this. It was actually pretty good. Not finishing the quest feels like Pirates of Dark Water all over again.
Jeremiah Baker
tfw writers dropped the ball so bad that Lion-O's voice actor wrote two of the best episodes of the series
It's still fucked up,10 years difference is not ok. If she was a 30 y/o women with a 20 y/o male then it was ok because its not creepy but a man in his 30s with a 20 y/o women? Its creepy and fucked up
No,why asking?
Jordan Hill
>>ywn see Tygra fuck literally everything up We all know that was never going to happen, the writers loved sucking his dick.
Caleb Rodriguez
You're fucking retarded user.
James Richardson
Fuck off moralfag
Xavier Cruz
I think you are the one who's retarded pedobear.kys faggot and leave Yea Forums
Gabriel Williams
>t. 37 year old roastie
twenties female / thirties male is perfect in every way- economically, for childbirth, etc. the man is estsblished and the woman is hopefully not a retard
Aiden Wright
You are dumb, economicaly good? She would waste all your money, you would get a Child to raise
Lincoln Miller
Kids do not have the capability to fully understand the implications of the sexual act.
Daniel Howard
He's not even talking about kids though.
Robert Roberts
Women over 30 are gross. Men over 30 are sexy.
Dwi
Christopher Sullivan
Bullshit
Jason Nguyen
Adopted kid will work harder because they know they're adopted.
Camden Reed
This show was awful and a waste of the money put into it. Falls apart after the initial two episodes, and only gets worse, with the sheer amount of Tygra wankery
Xavier Lee
True fact. The older men look the hotter women find them. The older women get the less men find them attractive. Obviously there's a cutoff point. But sexually speaking a 40 something male is far more attractive to a woman than a 20 something. All other things being equal.
Grayson Bell
Yeah, he is. That "arbitrary age" he mentions is adulthood. Anyone below that is a kid.
Luis Watson
>It's still fucked up,10 years difference is not ok. The law disagrees and no legal system on the planet cares.
>If she was a 30 y/o women with a 20 y/o male then it was ok because its not creepy but a man in his 30s with a 20 y/o women? Its creepy and fucked up Your opinion doesn't matter.
Benjamin Jackson
Ok, then how about this. If all that matters to you is arbitrary age designations as given by law then why are you even arguing anything?
Lion-O is the dejure monarch of an absolutist autocratic monarchy and a fictional character to boot. He isn't breaking any law whatsoever.
Alexander Bell
of course, but he has to have car, house and financial stability
Samuel Jackson
>all other things being equal
nitpick all you want you will not escape the fact that as men get older they get more attractive and the inverse is true for women.
Jayden Wood
Post Wilykit/LionO art now
Jose Hernandez
Not to mention it's a medieval fantasy setting. Even in this reality during medieval times he could have married her when he first met her and far far far more people would be more concerned with her lack of a noble title than with her age.
Luis Powell
well duh, you want to breed before everyone else so it's obvious you find young females attractive
>soundcloud.com/tcs2011int/cats2011-ros-revised >Dan Norton Interview >It would have started with a time skip with the power balance in Mumm-Ra's favor. Lion-O would've come up with the Code of Thundera from the 1985 series and along with the symbols on the red crests of the armor. The rebuilt Thundera would've included all who opposed Mumm-Ra. >The second episode would have been about Berbils would make the New Thundera technologically more advanced than the old one. Panthro plans to steal Mumm-Ra's technology to give them an advantage and the Berbils would follow him. This episode would've revealed Snarf's species' origins and show Flashbacks of when Panthro was trapped in the pyramid after Grune's betrayal. Ro-Bear Bill would have sacrificed himself to save Panthro and ensure the heroes would have the advantage Panthro planned. >The third episode would have been about other details that was revealed at a convention, Slithe's motives for siding with Mumm-Ra, Lynx-O's spotlight appearance, Slithe's grudge against Lynx-O and Slithe killing Lynx-O. There would be hints of Pumyra wanting more power too. >The fourth episode would have given the spotlight to Cheetara and her status as the last Cleric along with introducing an old rival of Cheetara's from her Cleric training days (a fat snow leopard) and would have learned that Cheetara blames herself for her grandma's death because of her speed to deliver medicine. Like her 1985 Series Counterpart, Cheetara would gain the ability to see into the future in this episode. >An episode would have focused on Jaga and confirmed that the Astral Plane is where Jaga's spirit resides. This episode also confirmed that Grune is still trapped in the Astral Plane and he has been transformed into a more monstrous version of himself (with Panthro's arms attached to him). Grune would also steal the Blue Power Stone (known as the "Soul Stone").
Caleb Flores
Yo that's a nip.
Xavier Green
FUN FACT
Panthera was Leo's second in command in the flashback episode and she ended up being his girlfriend and later first Queen of Thundaria. She shares Wilykit and Wilykats deformity (among thundarians) of cat ears and a cat tail.
It all wouldve come full circle! Why didnt you save it Yea Forums! Imagine if Wilykit and Liono married! Yea Forums wouldve explode!
Elijah Wilson
If nothing else I would have exploded (in my pants)
Nathan Cooper
Based
Colton Ramirez
It could, but would they? And if they did would they resurrect the 2011 show or just the name?
Eli White
They would get rid of wilykit/liono?
Evan Murphy
They might. If they thought it was unnecessary or they wanted to make Lion-O blacker.
Caleb Robinson
Thundercats died because of the ineptitude of its story arc writing and sabotage by its network. A show can survive one of those, not both.
Cooper Clark
Trying to be seductive. Fucking it up. Choking on a banana or failing the bubble tea challenge and getting wet.
Grayson Diaz
it was killed because of the lego chima show which is why pretty much all the VAs of thundercats were moved there
Brody Collins
>It's still fucked up,10 years difference is not ok. If she was a 30 y/o women with a 20 y/o male then it was ok because its not creepy but a man in his 30s with a 20 y/o women? Its creepy and fucked up
I know its impossible to change due to the 80s show and characters, but I still prefer my Tiger based cat characters to be girls instead of guys. I think the design lends itself better to that than a guy.
>hurr durr its jews bro XD Dumb magatard is racist dumb magatard Leave Yea Forums now with you shit retard
Jason Cox
Are you really trying to revive the Grammar Nazi meme?
Jaxson Lewis
They wouldn't ressurect the series, its not well known enough IMO. Reboot would be the most likely route, but that would almost certainly depend on the success of she-ra. And that means that if they remade it, it'd be going down she-ra's route.
If netflix gets the license, expect a shit ton of gayness in the show like the last season of voltron. Like, I'm not being anti-homosexual here because people being gay isn't outright an issue, but I'd be worried they'd be going full SJW and hating on any non-gayness.
Leo Clark
tryhard
Wyatt Peterson
The series is well known though,it got popular again with the announcement of thundercats roar...of thundercats roar...maybe this is how we spark interest in the franchise again!?
Blake Cook
>try to build excitement for an old series >Do a fake promotion about the equivilent of new coke about the thundercats, causing everyone to wax on about how good the last series was >Reveal the cancelation of the new show and revival of the old one
This is some 5d chess here user.
Justin Brooks
Hopefully after Roar (whatever happened to that?) comes and goes, the next Thundercats show will finally have Lion-O hook up with Kit. I wouldn't even mind if they aged him down a bit if they're prudes like that.
a small niche of 80s manchildren isn't enough to get more than a few speciality comics.
You need real mainstream support to get corporate bucks nowadays, and everything is far more centralized in the hands of super big corporate suits than at anytime in the past for whether a series gets greenlit or not.
Dylan Bell
The episode with the flower creatures who only lived for one day was kino.
>Enemy fucks up your home and everything you know >Blame the prince who had nothing to do with it because he just happened to miss you buried under rubble
Fuckin dumb cunt. She simply just wanted mummy cock right? That's Terra level stupid to get that pissed at him for
Carter Nelson
What the fuck does politics have to do with this. They're both adults user, if you're 20 there's a point where no one has to baby you on when you decide to get married.
Gabriel Stewart
>arbitrary age designations Those designations coincide with cognitive development you mung. Even if the law says it's ok to fuck a 14 year old it does not mean the 14 year old is ready for sex. A 14 year old is not capable of grasping the immense ramifications of the sexual act. I might argue that some 18 year olds are not able to, but the fact remains that cognitive development is not complete until late teens and even as far as 26 in some cases.
Joshua Cooper
GI Joe hasn't had a cartoon since Renegades. It's almost a decade now.
Ayden Lopez
Fucking ape
Henry Cook
Trials of Lion-O and Birth of Blades.
Trials was the only episode to show how horrible a leader Tygra would have been and showed that Lion-O was the only one fit to be the leader of the thundercats. Also everyone thought Lion-O was dead in the episode and basically moved on without mourning him, except Wiliykit who was the only one who still believed in Lion-o and left a trail of drawings for him to follow and find them when he came back.
Birth of Blades was the flashback episode which showed how the Sword of thundera and Plundarr were created by Lion-O's ancestor, Leo, thousands of years before the start of the series. It was the first sign of genuinely interesting lore since the pilot and was probably the high point of the series after said pilot.
You know, I want to like this, I really do, but I can't let it go that they meet when she is a literal child.
I once shared a story here some time ago about how a 7 year old girl I knew seemed to come on to me when I was 19.
Even though she is all grown now and by all means legal/drinking age, she is still that little girl to me and I cannot imagine even trying anything with her.
Maybe I'm too prudish, but I just cannot understand why anyone would think this is okay. What logic could I possibly follow to shake this point of view?
>I once shared a story here some time ago about how a 7 year old girl I knew seemed to come on to me when I was 19.
Tell us more.
Julian Garcia
That feeling is all on you, user. You are the one who can let go or moving on, you are the one who stopped growing as a person.
Aiden Gutierrez
I wish feason would make more of this.
James Harris
it's a weird thing to feel. the girl i ended up with i met when she was fairly young and i was 18. the more our lives progressed and the more we hung out, the more we realized that we were basically perfect for eachother, and here we are now 20 and 30. i will always have some weird feelings about it and would freak out about people possibly saying i groomed her or something, but so far everyone seems fine with it.
Josiah Howard
LionO was like 15/16 in the series, wasn't he?
Adrian Nelson
Nice.
Mason Torres
Reposting
>be 19 >this neighbor girl, 7 >girl like hanging out with my family >starts getting clingy to me >I think its cute at the time >play with her when she wants attention >gets me alone in room one day >this child STRADDLES me >gets close to my face "Where do you like getting kissed?" >Spilla mah spaget "Uh, the cheek is fine." "Are you sure?" >Mom calls her >She hops off and skips away looking back with a cheeky grin
She is in her mid 20s now, and I see her from time to time. I don't think she remembers doing that, and for the longest time it made me wonder about her home life.
Another incident- >be me >hanging out at uncle's house >7 year old girl is there too, cuz being babysat >awshitnigga.png >keeps saying how much she likes me >dimiss it as kid just being a kid >I start dozing off on couch. >she jumps on me, in her PJs, her crotch touching mine. >I try to get up, but she legs locks on my waist and wraps her arms around me >nervously get uncle's wife to get this child off of me. >she keeps smiling at me as she's taken to play with the other kids
kids are scary man. used to know this kid that would always jump on my lap, try to kiss me, and say she loved me. she's a huge slut now
Cameron Robinson
>It's still fucked up,it would've been like what? A 10 years difference between them?
When he's 80 and she's 70, would it really matter?
Thomas Sullivan
You should date her now that she is older.
Landon Sanchez
>you would get a Child to raise
That's kind of the fucking point.
Samuel Ward
So you want to be a bitch single parent left with a kid after a ho steals all your money and leaves you with the shitling she popped out to anchor herself to you?
That was a really cute and wholesome anime despite the weird premise.
Jayden White
Not every one gets to do their child hood dream.
Carter Wood
only the first two pilot episodes >Liono goes away for reasons, leave Tygra in charge or Tygra just usurps the crown >Tygra is an effective leader and makes headway against mummra >Mummra in retaliation, and using technology stone, creates a time bubble around Tygras territory >Mummra needs time to rebuild his army to match Tygra's >Tygra is happy to wait him out in a stalemate >Liono meanwhile wanders the wasteland growing along the way and meeting and helping new peoples >Meets with lizards he freed in first episode, who thank him for mercy and introduce him to their clan >Things happen and they like him now >Eventually Liono returns home as a changed man with a new vision >Finds his people same as he left them. >WTF? >Tygra holds an audience for him, Liono obviously is wanting the throne back >Tygra has grown bitter, yaks about how he abandoned his people and now he is rightful ruler >Only reason he hasn't defeated Mummra is because he doesn't have the war stone >Liono insists it's his, Tygra issues an official challenge >Tree challenge again >Liono nearly wins when Tygra drags him down and starts outright battling him >Starts losing and kicks Liono in the balls, wins >Cat population split on their ruler fighting dirty >Liono thrown in jail and wilykit break him out with bag of holding >Liono is grateful to wilykitwink >Liono wants to take back his city but doesn't want any more trouble >Lizards advise show of force as rightful king, heir to the throne, and war chief >March into the city like Anakin did with coruscant >Nobody opposes him, even Tygra's guards have to think twice before finally opening the chamber doors >Tygra is outraged, Cheetara shocked, Panthro is impressed by diversity of his army >Tygra attacks with Cheetarah reluctantly helping >Lizards spit on the floor and she gets glued >Tygra is taken down swiftly and forcefully abdicates the throne
I don't think their exact ages were ever said on the show. All that's certain is that Lion-O was stated to still be a teenager and that Tygra was old enough to remember their mom when Lion-O was born. 15/16 sounds right for Lion-O to me and Tygra would have to be at least 4-5 years older to remember their mom. Cheetara is probably somewhere in the middle. My guess is Tygra is probably 19 since Panthro referred to Lion-O Tygra and Cheetara as teenagers at one point if i recall correctly I could be wrong since it's been a while since I've seen the show.
Camden Sanders
Thundercats Roar was announced fairly early in its development (like one of the directors just left their previous project to work on it just a few weeks before the official announcement came), basically the opposite situation of Mao Mao
Jayden Jackson
Lion-O is 16 or 17 Willykit is like 11 or 12 Not defending it but it's not that big
Gavin Smith
The only thing i never really liked was how they turned Mummra into giant bat warlord from space. The old "ancient demon priest from ancient Egypt" was more interesting. They could had explore his origins, his hand in the fall of Earth (the 1st Earth) and how it became a wasteland (3rd Earth). How is voice wasn't grave enough.
Ryan Myers
Posting tiger girl images because I still wish we had on in thundercats.
They're all animals, so he was just a spacegoing warlord from presumably a beast people planet, and all of the people on that planet are parts of his army that crash landed on the planet after they overthrew him.
>Time to take the fight to Mummra >Tygra volunteers his services as he wants to take him down too >Liono wants no bad blood between them so he makes him a general since he's been battling this whole time >Also wilykat is there, and led troops over the years so hes made captain >Strategy requires their army to split up >Liono eventually is pitted against pumyra >Goes badly until she is literally eaten alive by feral lizard prisoners she used to torture after they are released >Tygra meanwhile is passing through trials set up by Mummra in order to turn him against liono >1. Tells him to turn back and he'll strike a new deal giving him ultimate power >2. Promises him the throne of Thundera and a tolerant existence under his rule >3. Tells him to betray his brother and he gets to live >Tygra resists temptation and strikes out >Hits panthro who was just standing there nearly killing him >Goes into coma and makes up a story on how they were both ambushed by Mummra >Story helps his troops' morale and resolve to win >Wilykat saw the whole thing though but keeps quiet because he is fiercely loyal to Tygra, lets him know about it too >The two armies surround Mummras pyramid and begin the assault >Inside the real battle takes place and Mummra gains the upperhand when he uses the spirit stone to mind control Tygra >It's easy cause he still holds a grudge and it won't break unless Tygra REALLY wants to >It's not happening >Cheetarah runs interference for Liono but it's not enough >Wilykit/kat also help with trying to hypnotize him and general distraction >Doesn't work, Tygra is too fast and pissed off with Liono >Panthro to the rescue using his mech arms to hold him down >Mummra downs liono and Mummra tries to power up Tygra with the spirit stone only for Wilikat to make his move and steal it >Liono deals the killing blow with Mummra distracted and the day is hard won >Outside the soldiers are treated to a fireworks show as Mummra dies (2/3)?
>Panthro reveals inadvertently that Tygra was the one who ganked him >Liono and Cheetarah are absolutely shocked and appalled >Not wilykat though >Liono wants to know whats up but Tygra tells him to fuck off >He still wants the throne and is going to keep fighting for it with his new army >He's keeping the spirit stone too >Panthro tries to stop him but he vanishes in an illusion and invisibly commands his army to march >Cheetarah being the bitch that she is also marches >Wilikat meanwhile has the tech stone and uses it to fly away while asking his sister to join him >She doesn't and he fucks off as well >Bittersweet ending at least but we get our ship canonized The End? Alternatively >Mummra isn't killed >We get a Game of Thrones scenario and the three newly formed kingdoms just sort of war it out >Liono and Tygra sacrifice themselves after making up to destroy Mummra >Panthro is the new king >All hail Panthro and his mechanical biceps
>So you want to be a bitch single parent left with a kid after a ho steals all your money and leaves you with the shitling she popped out to anchor herself to you?
Imagine being so miserable and so jaded that you assume every single vagina on the planet is out to get you.
Landon Gray
She-ra is fucking bizarre that way. Scorpia constantly trying to lez out, Catra and Adora doing that constant “hey”, Kyle and Rogelio being hinted at in twitter apparently. The big one though is Bow’s two dads.
I get that his mom and dad aren’t together, and hid dad’s lover is close enough he’s just like “I’ve got 2 dad’s.” Great. Who’s vagina did you come out of Bow? I get a single mom, I get 2 moms, I get divorced parents or widows/ers. 2 gay dad’s though? That requires some explaining. Hell, we found him on the doorstep, and conveniently he was black too would be acceptable.
Dominic Young
It literally came from a writer 4 years ago long after the show had been dissected to death
It stank of retcon nonsense then and the fact that people continue to eat it up even though nothing in the actual show suggested any of it speaks to its effect
Ryder Hill
Why did they make Cheetara a thot?
Isaac Peterson
These are just dripping with intimacy. God damn.
Caleb Clark
Lion-O looks like a total fruit.
Asher Butler
head guy really like tigra and decided to shit on lion-o to make him look good
Isaiah Ward
>Posting tiger girl images because I still wish we had on in thundercats. We did.
It wasn't clear that both Cheetarah and Tygra were a few years older than LionO.
Eli Martin
>really like tigra Then why didn't they give him a genuine role as a rival, instead of just making it seem like he was rocking the boat to no other effect than making the villain's job easier? That scene where Cheetara surrenders for him doesn't make ether of them look good.
Bentley Stewart
Incompetent writers.
Wyatt Hall
I wanted to like this show but I didn't understand what they were doing with the characters. The narrative seemed to be trying to convince the viewer that Lion-o needed to grow into his leadership, but the main internal conflicts arose from the three adults in his party acting like children and not respecting his position in the first place. How the fuck is he supposed to learn how to be the leader if no one listens to him in the first place? Was he supposed to kick their asses first to gain their respect or something? At least Mumm-ra literally cucking him for the cliffhanger was funny.
Thomas Edwards
I never understood the pairing.
Kevin Scott
Wasn't that the point of the trials he went through in the astral plane where he bests everyone?
Chase Anderson
Me nether... I can't get past the age difference thing if her brother's going to be right there for the whole thing too. >Wow, I sure am glad my sister is fucking our boss!
Luis Bennett
You figure, right? But all the way through the end of the show his allies treat him like he hasn't gained their trust or respect. Except maybe the youngest two. Panthro acts like he's babysitting and Cheetara and Tigra put their romantic tension over the safety of their friends.
Owen Williams
What was the age of Wily Kat suppose to be?
Charles Lee
Nah Wilykat was cool with Lion-O, hell he and Wilykit were like the only two who were, and would be down for brother of the queen perks
Ayden Smith
Story?
David Richardson
I actually kinda understood that.
I mean from a practical pov the Kingdom they served is gone .In reality nobles, guards and retainers are all largely self serving. If the state disappears so do the servants, and bodyguards, and priests. Without the state your titles are only worth what you make of them and by that point the state was long gone and Lion-O was really powerless.
The fact he had anyone by his side at all was a miracle.
Gavin Roberts
You'd have a point if he didn't have the sword of omens, which was a more important sign of leadership than being royalty was. He had power and insight none of the rest had, and was willing to lead them. If they would rather stay indignant than fall in line, the fault was on them.
Thomas Gutierrez
A writer for the series went on a podcast a few years ago and basically outlined the whole alleged plot for the show before it got cancelled. Within said outline there would be a significant timeskip with the result that everyone is older, Wilykit included, who would eventually hook up with Lion-O after the show built up their relationship.
It actually fits and is alluded to, especially if: Is to be believed. I find it odd that Lion-O's direct ancestor would also hook up with someone that had Wilykit's exact same physiological quirks.
Elijah Bailey
So they should just give up and roll over for Mumm-ra? It's not like any of the others were stepping up to the leadership role.
Blake Morgan
You do have a point but you also have to remember he was a literal teenager. If you've ever been around one they don't inspire any confidence whatsoever. Maybe them sticking around is exactly because of what you stated.
They're still individuals that wanted to live their lives. I'm sure the temptation to fuck off and raise a family on some secluded farmstead peaked into Tigra or Cheetara's mind once or twice.
Jayden Hughes
>So they should just give up and roll over for Mumm-ra? If you're in their position, you wouldn't? Thundera is charred cinders. The army is broken, routed, and scattered to the winds. The people are refugees or slaves in every nation but their own, within which, fun fact, they're all dead.
And here you have this kid that ultimately has no idea what he's doing. No concrete plan or set of goals. And even when he does his inexperience shines through when he presents his ideas to you. Because you DO have a plan (or so you think), a smoking hot girlfriend, and a strong pair of legs.
Joshua Baker
I mean ultimately Mumm-ra is a state. Loyalty to a crown is contingent on it being beneficial to you in some way. The King of the Thundercats has failed. He is defeated and dead. Why support his crown or his successor? At that moment Tigras motivations were all selfish, he's the adopted son of a dead king and the adopted brother to a would-be king. Similarly Cheetara had her cleric aspirations and dedications to motivate her. And Panthro, well, he just always seemed to be ticked off. For the longest time he wanted revenge, then he got it and now I think he wants revenge against the guy that made wanting the revenge a necessity in the first place.
So they all had their own reasons and only two of them are actually related directly to Lion-O. But as with anything, maybe you're Tigra or Cheetara and you look over to your smoking hot girlfriend/boyfriend and you decide you want something else more. After all, Lion-O's path is rewarding but hard as balls. Raising a family on a farmstead though? That's easy.
Isaac Sanchez
>If you're in their position, you wouldn't? I'm not sure what nihilist alternative you are suggesting here, but I'd like to think Lion-o's friends wouldn't stoop so low. Even from the perspective of cowards, if they give up they are dead or worse (whatever Pumyra was). >Because you DO have a plan (or so you think), No one else had a plan. Not even Panthro who was quite a know-it-all. They were pretty much all relying on Jaga's word, which only Lion-o could access.
Brandon Price
There's always an alternative. Maybe you find some secluded valley somewhere and raise a family. Shit your girlfriend whispers to you when you're cuddled up by a campfire for "when it's all over", but maybe, maybe it can be over now? If you want.
Aiden Howard
I'm assuming you just weren't watching the show at this point. The entire populace of the world were essentially escaped zoo animals from Mumm-ra's perspective. Anyone who is going to be spared is going to end up in a cage at best. There's no staying out of his way.
Grayson Ramirez
I know that's the truth but people are more complicated than that. There's always a part of you that wants to say "fuck it". You're not always going to make the logical choice. And for Tigra and Cheetara there's a whole lot of other options.
Yeah, none of them are likely to work out well for them or anyone else in the end. But it's not like here in the real world we don't see otherwise reasonable people make idiotic choices.
Kevin Reed
The problem with that is that Lion-O's teammates all believed in tradition more than he ever did. Tygra and Panthro are firmly established as traditionalists and Cheetara takes her job as the last cleric very seriously, clerics are supposed to be fiercely loyal to the king and serve as advisors
Tygra and Panthro want to reestablish Thundera back the way Claudus had things and push Lion-O to be a king more like his father and chastise him whenever he tries anything progressive. Tygra was even hinted at being a cat supremacist
But despite being such traditionalist they never give Lion-O the respect tradition demamds, Cheetara even drops her cleric duties as soon as she gets with Tygra with no explanation. In fact Cheetara's character development basically halts and she becomes an accessory to Tygra once she hooks with him although that could probably be chalked up to writer incompetence more than anything.
The irony is that Lion-O was more than willing to give up the throne to Tygra but was always pushed back into it by those around him, amd that includes Tygra.
Oliver Flores
>Cheetara even drops her cleric duties as soon as she gets with Tygra with no explanation. In fact Cheetara's character development basically halts and she becomes an accessory to Tygra once she hooks with him
Sounds like every woman ever.
Josiah Foster
>If she was a 30 y/o women with a 20 y/o male then it was ok because its not creepy but a man in his 30s with a 20 y/o women? Its creepy and fucked up Now I know you're trolling.
Andrew Robinson
Im not,you are retarded
Tyler Morgan
>Liono comes back from book of omens >Sees Wilykit >"Wilykit,how much you have grown." >Wilykit to Liono:"I did but you haven't aged a bit,well,maybe that beard is giving you away." >both laugh IMAGINE I wanna see the episodes done,Samurai Jack came back,Clone Wars comes back,Young Justice is back. This could too,it just came at the wrong time. But now? It would be the new Voltron
Jonathan James
Netflix second season when?
Blake Anderson
What happened to cheetara?
Jackson Foster
restored the clerics iirc
Nicholas Baker
>Wilykit would have been aged up. cowards...
Jeremiah Thompson
Could A Thundercats live action movie or animated movie rebirth the franchise and spark interest?
Hudson Flores
Thundercats directed by Michael Bay starring Zac Efron as Lion O and Isabella Moner as Wilykit
Joseph Sanchez
Remember when Lion-O fucking dies just so the viewer could see how badly Tygra would fuck up as leader.
Tygra wank was honestly jarring. It's like after the first 2 episodes the writers realized "Bu-bu-but Lion-O's supposed to be king!" and just stripped what could've been an interesting dynamic between Lion-O, destiny's bitch, and Tygra, the guy who worked his ass off for a role he'll never have.
... And no OP evil bug Pumyra sounds dumb as fuck.
>marrying someone your age means she is a granny Men and Women age differently, something you don't seem to understand, men in their 30's are in their prime, in their 20's they build their career, women however, are in their prime at early 20's. They become less and less atractive in their 30's.
Liam Johnson
>men in their 30s are in their prime Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahhahahahahahaha Only a virgin incel would say this,you are completely lost in your fantasy world dude
Jaxon Martin
>Only a virgin incel would say this,you are completely lost in your fantasy world dude I didn't pull that out of my ass, Huffpost, out of all places, studied the age gap. The only virgin here is you.
Dylan Cruz
My mom was 30 he was 38 when they married, he convinced my mom really freaking fast to marry him.
My mom was quite the darling apparently, I can't go a week without finding at least a man in her generation that coveted her and my aunt in my town.
My mother was the oldest of 6 so she took it up to herself to help in the house so she only had a couple of older boyfriends but even when I talked to the other guys that dated her they told me that she saved herself until her marriage with my dad at whooping 30.
>I'm half wizard bro.
The fact that she was pretty but not social and house oriented actually netted her at least 6 stalkers in her youth, I actually meet one that freaking threw a supermarket cart at me and my mom when I was doing groceries with her, some people still don't forget my mom never gave a fuck about them no matter how hard they tried.
To keep it short my mom was pretty and devoted to her household, had very few older boyfriends and always kept them at bay by saying she was saving herself for marriage, actually rejected 2 of them because she said it felt wrong to say yes "if you hesitated even for a second" and eventually married my dad because he was the most confident ultra competitive man that always knew what to say to entertain her, till the day my dad died he was still cracking jokes about the other side just to avoid seeing his friends cry and keep my mom calm, I wish I could have half the size of his balls in my deathbed.
I don't know if that's what people call alpha but he was certainly the one who earned my mother heart just by having a personality that steals the show, while I grew up I saw them as if they were still newlyweds and even in disease they always had that spark that never waned.
Brandon Long
Post real info about this dumbass
Cameron Johnson
>But it's not like here in the real world we don't see otherwise reasonable people make idiotic choices.
Fiction that wants to succeed needs to be more entertaining than it is frustrating to the viewer.
Just a short google search. Where I live is pretty common too, on average the age gap being 6 years on average. From my personal experience, I can say it's preety shitty if the woman is older.
Grayson Collins
Bump
Nathan Perez
All fake shit,no real truth, you are lying. Leave now pedobear
Gabriel Fisher
>It still hurts guys.
It hurts that you will never get to see all those godawful shitty things come to pass? So... are you a gigantic masochist or just retarded?
Landon Clark
>shitty things >Tygra dying >LionO and Wilykit marrying >Silverhawks,Tigersharks and Thundercats crossover in final battle against Mumm Ra >bad Fucking end yourself pleb I smell plebbit
Brody Lopez
>or just retarded You probably think Steven Universe is a good show
Chase Bennett
The reboot's Cheetara was way hotter than the original. But I seem to be alone in that sentiment.
Ethan Hill
Has Roar even aired yet? How long does shit animation take to produce?
Juan Gutierrez
>>Silverhawks,Tigersharks and Thundercats crossover in final battle against Mumm Ra
They already fucked up Thundercats, how is them fucking up Silverhawks and Tigersharks also a good thing, shitbrain?
Parker Wood
Let's hope so, it's baffling how tone deaf this network has become to its core audience base.
Brayden Nguyen
I ike it and all, but can you really call it wholesome after all the shit that happened to her.
Robert Martinez
They didn't fuck thundercats up. You just didn't get to decide everything that happened and threw a hissy fit.
Brandon Russell
So how did this ship come to be ?
Daniel Jackson
user, marrying women up to 10 years younger have been a common thing for many years.
Lucas James
>All fake shit,no real truth, you are lying. Leave now pedobear You must be a 14 year virgin, but that's how the world works, an 18 year old isn't a minor and a 26 or 30 year old atracted to that person isn't a pedophile, retard. Sorry to crush your Disney™ model of a relationship.
Aaron Gonzalez
>except Wiliykit who was the only one who still believed in Lion-o Why only her? Still, pretty intereesting how a VA can come up with that.
Jace Sanchez
"Give him SOMETHING because the show keeps shitting on him" far as I can gather.
>the show keeps shitting on him Heroes journey. You gotta be down to get back up. Everyone keeps saying that "the wrters didn't give Lion-O anything, they liked Tygra too much!1 BAD WRITIGN OMG!". They were getting there. Fuck. Yes, he was getting shit on by those around him and life in general, but it was going somewhere and his rise would be that much better because of it. But you know, it got cancelled. c'est la vie.
Camden Hughes
Cheetara and Wilykit dressed as Katara and Toph respectively.
Lucas Garcia
>but it was going somewhere
No, it wasn't.
Landon Sanchez
OK dude, I was there watching the show when it aired. And after the first 2 episodes, Lion-O stopped being interested in tech, all so Tygra could shine.
Jackson Wood
>Aparently Thundercats will have a panel at SDCC
Likely to shill the new show.
Adam Flores
How do you know? Were you a writer on the show?
He didn't stop being interested in tech, tech and magic kinda became the same thing after a while. His whole thing was completing his armor which was tech.
Ian Gomez
Lion-O developed an aversion to technology that isn't addressed until the episode before the the 2 part finale. And Tygra who mocked Lion-O for even believing in technology in the first episode quickly adapts to it without question and is apparently a natural pilot.
Luis Reed
They likely would have gone more into detail why she was so loyal to Lion-O had the show continued. Especially since the finale had Wilykit taking over Cheetaras initial role as his closest ally and confidant.
William Kelly
Motherfucker, I know because I watched the show. With the exception of the pilot and the episodes Liono's va wrote, the scripts were godawful. Not getting cancelled wouldn't have made the writers suddenly stop being garbage, and all these "great ideas" you keep crowing about would have been just as poorly executed as everything that came before.
Brayden Nelson
The sword of omens was tech dude.
Liam Moore
>and is apparently a natural pilot. It's a cartoon bro.
Brandon Morris
It wasn't god awful it just wasn't allowed to progress.
Jonathan Nelson
>It's a cartoon bro. hence talking cats, not that guy, but dude technology was literally laughed at by Tygra himself as being a crazy myth or some shit and suddenly he's a fucking ace? What the fuck is that?
Angel Diaz
It's a cartoon.
People in cartoons do all manner of crazy things that wouldn't makes sense irl. From jumping 8 feet in the air to piloting vehicles without months of training. It's a cartoon.
Jackson Johnson
You are a sane person user.
Jordan Peterson
and a break of continuity dumbfuck. If one character is shown having a fear of water in one episode and then participating in a swim contest in another without any in between would you not be bothered by it?
Kevin Morales
>It's a poorly written cartoon.
Fixed that for you, bromigo.
Jeremiah Morgan
You're right. Which is why Lion-O's aversion to tech was so weird and unnatural. It's almost as if the show had bad writers who couldn't keep consistent character development episode to episode.
So was ATLA buy buy that managed to keep consistent with its characterization. Repeatedly telling people doesn't magically make all its flaws disappear or not matter.
Yes it's a cartoon, a badly written one that squandered its potential
Bad cartoons exist and discussing why they're bad isn't a crime.
Jeremiah Hall
Depends on the cartoon. In this one? Nope!
>muh bad writing.
You're never going to get me to say I think something that was fine, is bad and omg the worst thing ever. Tygra was a pragmatist and they made him an expert pilot when the plot called for it because it's cool and kids like cool things. End of story, if you think about it too much it makes no sense but you're not supposed to because it's a cartoon.
Alexander Hall
And you can chant "It's fine, it's fine!" and make up excuses all you want, but it's never going to change the fact that the writers had no idea what the fuck they were doing.
Asher Bennett
>Wilykit and LionO marry Would've Yea Forums have exploded then?
James Watson
It was rule of cool. It's a kids action show.
Julian Wright
>iTs A cARtOon Repeatedly screeching that doesn't change the fact the show failed hard and it's weak story was one of those reasons.
The show was clearly trying to model itself after Avatar the Last Airbender, a show that praised for its phenomenal character development. Both target the same demo and both were episodic in nature. Both had premises that were simple at its core. Both followed a group of teens and kids on a quest to save their world from a despotic tyrant. But only ATLA managed to develop a likeable cast that noticebly grew from episode to episode
So if we can praise one cartoon, ATLA, for everything it did right we can also be critical of another, Thundercats, for everything it did wrong.
You liked a badly written cartoon and poorly developed character, Tygra, and are trying to convince us, but mostly yourself, that it wasn't bad bEcuCUz ItS A CArtOoN.
Chase Murphy
The examples you're giving aren't bad because they're nitpicky.
Sebastian Moore
Well it was obvious from the beginning you're just a shill for a dead show. No idea why you keep defending it so adamantly unless you're trying to build tolerance for the shit writing that's bound to accompany Roar.
Eli Peterson
Rule of Cool does not now nor has it ever excused shit writing. It's a bullshit trope that talentless hacks invoke to try and mask the fact that they are, indeed, hacks.
Jose Brooks
Thundercats 2011 got cancelled because chima was cheaper to make,2011 was successful but they wanted the budget bigger for the second season.
Liam Cooper
Inconsistent characterization is a pretty broad problem that extends to all the characters.
Owen Bailey
That not the entire reason and you know it. Thundercats was already toeing the line because ratings weren't meeting expectations and the toys weren't selling, Chima coming along with greater cost effectiveness and the LEGO brand behind it was just what pushed CN to go ahead and give it the axe.
Jaxon Torres
Rule of cool makes it not shit writing.
Joseph Walker
>Implying the average Yea Forumsrpulent denizen of Yea Forums is as majestic and powerful as an elephant.
Christian Nguyen
>u liek what I don't like?!?!?! >Imposibru!!! >u-ur a shiiiilllll! >for a 8 years old cartoon!
Like, dude. Seriously...Wtf is wrong with you?
Kayden Brooks
With that ending, I like to imagine Mumm-ra won because no one on the team understood how teamwork and the chain of command work.
At least I enjoyed the pilot and the flashback episode.
You sound like your more upset that they didn't wank Tygra enough.
Colton Sanders
>Oh no... >Its retarded
Leo Roberts
They didn't though.
Samuel Jones
Had nothing to do with wanking. They just didn't give him a good role. Instead of being a rebellious rogue who bent the rules and had his own strengths and perspective, they decided he had a huge chip on his shoulder because he thought he was supposed to the main character. And he doesn't even get over it. Despite everyone being annoyed that the writers gave him too much favor, he wasn't particularly competent ether.
Sebastian Wilson
So you admit you're just shitposting, then? Good, glad we cleared that up.
Kayden Butler
Rule of cool changes the fundamental axiom of the writing and the goals change. To judge a work based on other axioms that weren't used in its creation is pointless.
>The writing is dogshit but you aren't allowed to compare it to things that aren't dogshit because that would destroy my position. Also, I don't know what the word axiom means but I'll use it anyway to try and make myself seem smarter.
Glad that we've finally come to an agreement, friend. You should really just be honest from the beginning next time.
Cameron Allen
Rule of cool is bad if you're judging it based on the standards of narrative development. Narrative development is boring and autistic if judged by rule of cool. Srsly, this isn't hard. Well, I shouldn't complain, if nothing else you're bumping the thread.
Ayden Gonzalez
wilykit being jealous of cheetara's fat tits
Caleb Rivera
And yet again we agree that the writing was dogshit. I'm so glad we're on the same wavelength! It's rare to meet someone who thinks the writers were all hacks just as much as I do.
Anthony Miller
Everytime I drift over to this board I see someone trying to pretend this show was anything other than completely mediocre. The show got mercy killed, liking the artstyle doesn't mean it was good.
Elijah Jenkins
>The show got mercy killed The show got replaced by a corporate cash grab that came along at just the right time.
Dominic Hughes
>wahh I'm right I'm right! >only I can ever be right!!
Dude, why can't things try to be other things without them being shit? Tigra just piloting a plane just because is perfectly fine for a kids cartoon. It's kid logic, you just drive it like a golf cart or something because you're a grown up and a good guy.
Noah Williams
I love this show and will defend it, but I can't defend ending it on a cliffhanger when the creators outright said "We realize nobody gets a second season anymore"
This thread has lasted a pretty long time given the way the wind's blowing. I assume it's all negativity and ignorance?
Henry Phillips
I don't know why I have to keep explaining this, but wilykit and lion-o are both half-grown, going by their parents.
Lincoln Cooper
hey, I recognize that outfit.
Joshua Sanders
Outdated concept art, but similar to how they ended up.
Dominic Long
It's cute, it's just weird that this artist didn't age lion-o up. He has like 3 more feet to grow, same as she does.
Levi Kelly
they did age him down. he's just tall. was I the only 6 foot tall 12 year old in here?
Adam Hill
>a pastebin of an imgur link we're being ultra careful today
>Dude, why can't things try to be other things without them being shit?
Things try to be other things all the time. That's what things SHOULD do. But that doesn't mean it'll always be good. Sometimes things try to be other things, and instead they just end up being shit.
Thundercats 2011 tried to take itself seriously. It wanted to be an action show, not fucking Looney Tunes. It tried to have a cohesive narrative and a story with proper arcs and characterization, and it plain fucking failed at all those things. But for some completely retarded, wholly autistic reason you want to sit there and wave the "it's for kids" flag to try and disperse the rank stench of the show constantly shitting itself. It is not Rule of Cool. It is not anything of the sort. It's just bad writing, plain and simple.
Ayden Carter
>and it plain fucking failed at all those things first of all, no it didn't secondly, for even TRYING to be serious action in 2011, it's the goddamn second coming of BTAS. and if you don't think so, we can't be friends. Tygra being good at tech was interesting. Of all the things the show did wrong with him, that isn't one. It made it all the more interesting in that episode where he fucking BECAME tech. This show has flaws, but it's A) the best action show of its time, B) the best action show in the last decade (since there haven't been any except YJ so okay maybe 2nd best), and C) a massive improvement on the original show. and anyway, we're all aware of the flaws. so why can't we have a single thread to celebrate what we liked?
Josiah Sanchez
>for even TRYING to be serious action in 2011, it's the goddamn second coming of BTAS. and if you don't think so, we can't be friends.
Not like I was ready to go pick out curtains or anything but I always do try to see eye to eye with folks.
Luis Barnes
Nigger everyone is already asking the same about you
Brayden Lee
I don't pick out curtains until we get our dicks sucked.
Lucas Brooks
>we can't be friends.
From your posts I can tell that not only do I absolutely not want to be your friend, but even daring to compare this poorly written garbage to BTAS makes we want you to get colon cancer.
>so why can't we have a single thread to celebrate what we liked?
Because fuck you, that's why.
Aiden Wright
>since there haven't been any except YJ
Motherfucker, YJ seasons 1 and 2 aired in the same "era" as GLTAS, Avengers EMH, Spectacular Spider-Man, and Woverine and the X-Men. And ALL of those except maybe WatX were WAY fucking better.
Landon Flores
Then go talk about those in some thread, because no they w- well okay GLTAS was better, but I didn't watch that until way later. and spectacular spider-man was much, much earlier. and nobody watched wolverine and the x-men. it was good, but god knows when or where that ever aired.
Sebastian Foster
>and spectacular spider-man was much, much earlier. How young are you that you think it's okay to use the word "much" to describe a difference of TWO years?
Charles Turner
Someone post the webms, you one which ones.
Austin Parker
I can never be too careful
Joseph Ramirez
Hey little boy don't listen to those other anons I think you're cool.
Bentley Perez
It was at least 3 years. and in TV that's ages. Plus it got screwed by legal shit, so another serious action show was still something we thirsted for. and we CONTINUE to thirst to this day. Don't you have anything you desperately want more of, and you don't want to hear people looking the horses in the mouth? Like what if you actually got a date with a girl, how would you feel if people were pointing out every blemish or scar? I know I wouldn't like that if I ever got one.
William Howard
>It was at least 3 years.
Last episode of Spectacular was in November of 2009 so it's actually more like a year and 8 months.
Caleb Thompson
Your basically telling us to settle for scraps and pretend it's a full course meal.
Thundercats was at best squandered potential and your hypothetical girlfriend is ugly.
Jaxon Foster
Oh fair enough, if you're going by the end. I guess that makes more sense than going by the beginning. settle for scraps because that's all you're getting, user
Jonathan Cooper
Can we just stop engaging with that guy and post the only worthwhile thing from the show, Wilykit?
Good thing we live in a world where love grows faster than our bodies.
Nicholas Flores
Yeah this is the biggest problem with this way of thinking (and I do NOT think we should be giving that kid any more attention) They think either god or nature apparently created a system where you need to spend like a decade as a sexually mature being before actually utilizing that system, by which time you've lost half of your potency and stamina. And some of these people are okay with it as long as BOTH are kids, which makes about as much sense as driving without a license as long as the guy in the passenger seat doesn't have one either.
They don't understand that mental maturity can go super fast or super slow, depending on how a person is trained and fostered, and their modern attitudes are retarding maturity about as hard as maturity can be retarded. And they also haven't picked up on whose plot that is, and who benefits from less and less maturity and more vulnerability in the populace.
Not even trying to argue or anything, where? I wanna watch serious action shows. The only one I see right now is YJ and it's good, but I also understand the criticism. It's not for everyone, it's for me. Except the SJW shit, that's for Greg, but that's pretty mild.
Other thing i never liked was the broken narrative. Ok, Mummra comes with mutants mooks with high tech guns and conquers/razes Thundera (or the capital, unless it's only a city-state, which nobody refers as it) in a single night. The remnants of the royal family flee and... that's it. They go in some merry adventures without sense of urgency. There is no countryside, no populace, they fled the country to whatever other country borders it. Nobody tells what happened to the populace, to the remnants of the army, what happened under mutant occupation or whatever. Only, almost at the end of the show that we know that some of the population was enslaved and sent to some dilithium mines or whatever. But before that? No sense of hurry, of worry about the country or the populace. The biggest kingdom around crumbles in a single night and nobody around seems to care, neither the thunderian nobles nor the surrounding peoples. Also how Tygra, a technophobe learns to drive and use guns just like that? With Panthro we could handwave the got time to learn how to fiddle with high tech just like Lion-O spent years fiddling with it.
Blake Baker
say it with me guys cute and perfect I'll give you that. That's something most shows seem to have trouble with, tyranny of being broken up into episodes. (This is also what I think when they say there'll be a timeskip.. the getting-the-stones was so urgent, yet it's okay for them to just not get any for a bunch of years, and then resume the story?) It seems like they all just assumed everyone was dead, and they had their own immediate needs (literally they'd starve if they didnt evacuate right away) and probably just didn't wanna think about where everyone was. The tech must all be super idiotproof in this place. Kinda makes sense if a lot of it is Mumm-ra's old shit and it was designed for a huge variety of different animal slaves to use.
Jacob Gray
I always thought, considering Pumyra's backstory, that the cats were just holocausted. Hence why no other survivors are visible in the beginning. Slavery is fine but that does bring up the question of how the hell a large amount of the populace was enslaved, imprisoned, and transported all within a single night. Mummra didn't have any airships. Also remember how the neighboring kingdoms were left to fight for scraps? Maybe they were glad Thundera finally fell. Tygra and Panthro though, just bad writing.
Jaxon Hill
we know Pumyra was trapped under rubble, so it probably wasn't all in one night. A lot of them were taken that one night (classic Viking-style pillaging can enslave massive numbers in one go, which apparently the Thunderians were doing to the lizards in the first place), and more were nabbed in a cleanup effort over the next couple days. The transportation probably took weeks, depending how many vehicles they used and what their capacity was.
Bentley Mitchell
I found it pretty easy to identify with Lion-o, so I didn't mind when people gave him shit. That's just how that is. When you're wrong and when you're right, just nonstop shit from the two hypocrites, and no support from Panthro. But the kittens and Snarf have your back.
Lincoln Flores
i too share this sentiment
Josiah Taylor
There was no excuse for a lack of progress or having a VA write better episodes than the writers. They fucked up hard.
Easton Robinson
good writing is extremely rare, your standards are unreasonably high
Isaac Roberts
It's pretty bad when even Tygra's VA thought he was a massive dick.
Austin Ward
>good writing is extremely rare, your standards are unreasonably high
No it isn't, you just enjoy sucking shit.
Gabriel Lee
That final scene is basically the writers owning up to the fact that Wilykit was the only good character left in the show and the only relationship of Lion-O's they hadn't royally fucked up. It's also the only reason why I think the future plot lines in the op are even remotely possible.
Nah, I just wanted it to keep the same potential it had in the pilot and not shit the bed, not that high at all. Fuck, Greg Weisman and JMS do it near damn consistently.
Charles Collins
working on this atm
Hudson King
greg weisman doesn't do -shit- consistently. his shows constantly get canceled before their time.
Joseph Perry
Post updated concept art.
Ayden Foster
Faggot, if ther'e ONE thing I have learned since I came to Yea Forums it's that >everyone Is like, 3 people.
Every thread filled with negative comments and shitposts about how everything sucks and is bound to fail is almost always just 3 bitter assholes. Yea Forums Doesn't know shit about what's good and whiners are always the loudest voices.
Ian Gomez
>the only relationship of Lion-O's they hadn't royally fucked up
Why does it have to be an accidental fuckup? It fits. It's part of his heroes journey. Everyone around him is going to shit on him and tell him he's a fuckup and he'll have to climb himself out of his hole and be a better person for it, earn everyones respect and admiration in spades.
Adrian Lewis
Same
Gabriel Cox
Not really. There's no rule that VA's have to feel any particular way about any character they voice. It's literally just a job.
Aiden Turner
they didnt release it, but the characters looked different in the episode they appeared in not dramatically so, but enough to check out screencaps from that ep
Dylan Morris
Literally haven't heard of any of them except for GLTAS
Hunter Cox
>It's part of his heroes journey.
Shit writing will never be part of the Hero's Journey, no matter how many times you say it.
Thomas White
This.
Seriously. I loved this show and want it to come back.
Caleb Collins
Not being liked by someone is not shit writing, what did you want? A Mary-sue?
Evan Price
you fucker, I was expecting wilykat
Jace Peterson
I think what he meant is it's unusual for someone to actually think theyre voicing a jerk, when that's ostensibly the good guy
Ryan Perez
dude Spectacular is... spectacular. watch it. be sad when it's over so quickly.
Alexander Richardson
That's on the execs. Spectacular Spiderman and Gargolyes was consistently good with only a few weak episodes. And characters grew and developed naturally.
Leo Reyes
it is weird how that is her default hairstyle... er, earstyle. no wonder she ties them up. her little brother has a way more feminine earstyle, his hang down. I suppose when he grows up he might be able to pull off tying them back into a neck-touching ponytail.
Josiah Jackson
The problem is that we were supposed to cheer for the rest of the Thundercats as much as we did for Lion-O. They're supposed to be a team but by the end it's hard to see why they even bother to stick together.
Lion-O's treatment isn't the only reason people were upset at the characterization of the rest of the team. They were also upset that they took previously liked characters and made them into dicks to serve a plot that never went anywhere. If after 26 episodes the writer's couldn't develop any of the teams relationships to a point where they can be believed as friends then they failed. At that point they might as well have dropped the original team line up and made it into the Lion-O show.
>That's on the execs. Never suggested it wasn't. My point is that good writing is rare, not that there's no such thing as consistently good writers. they are rare, and their work is rare.
Tyler Williams
I know he meant that, I'm saying.....I'm not sure what.
I guess that the statement is fundamentally inane since it's not like you took a survey of all vioice actors ever and then went, "yeah, looks like most of them think their character is cool". I'm guess what I'm saying is that the comment, whether it's even true or not, doesn't matter. The VA of anything isn't a good judgment of what or who a character is, nor is he/she necessarily privy to the whole picture like plot points that might change their mind about the character later on.
It's essentially a "see, see, this guys thinks so too" type comment. It's shildish and pointless and just serves to inflate an ego. But I guess now I sound like an asshole for pointing all this out.
William Morales
>we were supposed to cheer for the rest of the Thundercats as much as we did for Lion-O. it's absolutely baffling to me that anyone thinks this. It's fundamentally impossible to cheer for both of them, since they were at odds with each other. You were clearly supposed to feel for Lion-O. The fact that YOU liked the others early on, and got disappointed, is your problem.
Carson Cooper
>The VA of anything isn't a good judgment of what or who a character is In anything with good direction, they are. You get into your character, what they're about. you should know them better than anyone except obviously the creator >nor is he/she necessarily privy to the whole picture like plot points that might change their mind about the character later on. They get to read the scripts, and they get the director telling them "sound like this.. sound like you've got something to hide" etc
Jason Sanders
That is what I meant. And most VAs care a lot about their roles, so for him to voice that concern when his character is benefiting the most says a lot.
Bentley Robinson
>it's hard to see why they even bother to stick together. Wasn't that kind of the point? They end up going their separate ways and find each other later on after they've grown.
Jeremiah Wright
Yeah this. We as the audience are supposed to like Tygra but when the guy voicing him doesn't even like him then you gotta own up to the fact the writers failed at selling Tygra as a hero.
Angel Johnson
>In anything with good direction, they are. Prove it.
>They get to read the scripts And? They don't necessarily get to read the series outline. The complete backstories. The whole voice in their characters heads....all of the voices.
Zachary Diaz
>We as the audience are supposed to like Tygra Says who? Maybe he's supposed to be kind of a jerk.
Sebastian Nelson
>And most VAs care a lot about their roles Again. Prove 51% of VA's care about their roles.
And also again. It doesn't matter. A VA agreeing with you does not make you right, you child.
Aiden Thompson
Incorrect, Great performances come from Voice director and VA working together on a character to bring them to life, and its immediately apparent when that relationship is nonexistant in the performance, Especially with VA who have spent years with a character.
Carson Kelly
You're really stretching now, bud. Dial it back a little.
Isaac Bennett
No, dude. I hate it when people ignore logical points. Your whole VA argument is nonsense from its very foundation. He could think Tigra is the biggest cocksucker on the planet and you could prove that 99.99% of VA's care and objectively deep amount about 99.99% of the characters they voice and it still wouldn't make your opinion matter one iota more.
I know I'm being autistic about this. But I hate self-wank. You're jsut circle jerking. You have no point.
You just can't admit when you're wrong can you. Look at fucking Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamil for example, Mark straight up says in his interviews that he always asks if Kevin's playing batman and if he is he signs right up because he knows Kevin takes it seriously. Look up any interview where a VA discusses his or her favorite character and you can see the passion they have for them.
Jaxson Watson
You're sick, user.
Noah Howard
It'd deosn't matter what the VA thinks about any character he voices. It doesn't make your opinion any more factual. It's still an opinion.
Holy shit.
Ryan Murphy
It seems pretty clear to me you weren't supposed to like Tygra, any more than you were supposed to like Wayne on The Wonder Years.
Jeremiah Rivera
I'm also not the guy you were arguing with, but whatever. Just keep trying to suck your own dick, I guess.
Gavin Thompson
She was the only character who didn't completely shit on him
Nolan Reyes
And if you were right, you'd have a point. But you're wrong.
Jonathan James
>agree with the "he thinks so too" argument >accuse anyone else of circle jerking
Go fuck a cactus user.
Jonathan Bell
Because the show is called Thundercats not Lion-O and his dick teammates. Tygra and the rest make up the Thundercats so they are for all intents and purposes the titular heroes. Imagine if they reboot the Ninja Turtles and everyone shits on Leonardo for 26 straight episodes. People would rightfully be upset that they killed the old team dynamic.
Tygra being a jerk from the outset is acceptable as long as the show developed him in a beliavable way to a point where he and Lion-O could see eye to eye. That was his journey and that was probably the intention. But that journey was severely undercooked after 26 episodes and that was because writer incompetence more than anything.
Joseph Wood
>But you're wrong. Oh? Explain to me why the VA's opinion makes your opinion more of a fact.
Gavin Turner
Wow, a lot to unpack here Firstly, lot more reluctant to post mine now. You have set the bar pretty high. but I guess if anyone cares to go to pixiv, my shit is at 75248140 Secondly, I've never seen this on rule34. Where do you keep a gallery of your work?
Josiah Morris
I had planned to fuck a cactus, but I'm told your mom has a really long waiting list. It's probably going to be a few weeks.
Gabriel Rodriguez
Are we supposed to like Ozymandias and The Comedian in the Watchmen too?
Justin Bennett
>Because the show is called Thundercats not Lion-O and his dick teammates. so nobody in the title is allowed to be a jerk. okay. >Imagine if they reboot the Ninja Turtles and everyone shits on Leonardo for 26 straight episodes. that's called the 2012 series.
Charles Rogers
>ur moms a cactus
Oh, ouch user, wow. You sure got me. We're all cacti.
Man that hurts more than my needles.
Andrew Ross
It was more a jab at her vagina being dry and prickly.
cactoi* ah, dude. big fan. A lot of your shit is on rule34 but for some reason not that. Reckon I could upload it myself.
Aaron White
Tygra was supposed to be more like a rival character than an older brother bully. And it's clear that the writer's tried to make him more sympathetic in episodes that explored his past. Which made the writer's decisions with Tygra all the more confusing.
We have one episode where we're supposed to feel bad the poor orphan boy and see where his resentment to Lion-O was born from but in the next episode he's back to being a jerk
Luis Ward
Reckon you could.
Dylan Kelly
Yeah, keep moving those goalposts,
Alexander Fisher
Done. Pubic service I suppose.
Nathaniel Baker
Just because we understand why he's a jerk doesn't mean he isn't still a jerk.
Ethan Baker
Ah coldfusion eh? I've seen you on paheal. I like your work as well.
Christopher Ortiz
The writers when they tried to make Tygra more sympathetic with episodes like Native Son.
Ethan Wood
I haven't moved a single goalpost. See: I always thought the point was fundamentally pointless and childish and served no purpose at all.
Some other guys opinion does not make your opinion more factual. That's the root of the comment in and of itself being utterly pointless and childish. It's just you sucking yourself off because you agree with some guy.
Kevin Ross
Let's not pretend anyone here is acting like an adult, friend.
Lincoln Hughes
You sure seem uncertain and unclear for someone who's so certain about what was clearly intended
Nathaniel Jackson
>it is weird how that is her default hairstyle... er, earstyle. no wonder she ties them up. That never made it into an episode IIRC They also had a shirtless Wilykat and topless Cheetara that never got used
that's just something you put into a good model sheet, so that if they ever change clothes, they don't have to guess at what the underlying bits look like.
Asher Flores
Then where is my topless wilykit model sheet
Carson Diaz
Can someone post more aged up and cute Wilykit and Lion-O art?
I need cheering up.
Jose Miller
>Comparing a morally gray story intended for adults to a kids show with black and white morality. Ease up on the edge there.
John Flores
The problem is that if he chooses to keep being a jerk, then nobody will give a shit about his bad childhood and us learning about his youthful misfortunes was a complete waste of time.
Chase Smith
just followed you on pixiv. Message me sometime. I see a potential collab.
right here lmao
Jaxson Garcia
The ears thing still makes no sense. Were they just too lazy to add them in or did they forget last-minute and then tried to justify it as "the hair is their ear"
Wyatt Carter
I could have sworn she showed as much as cheetara on her sheet. I guess with her skimpy top there's nothing much left you'd need to inform an artist of.
Blake Walker
Ok. Are we supposed to like all the X-men? Because Rogue was a bitch and Gambit was an annoying faggot.
Angel Jones
>visible nipples
non-canon >I could have sworn she showed as much as cheetara on her sheet. nah but she did have a gratuitous butt sticking out shot
Ayden Bell
And wolverine was a pining asshole.
Gavin Cook
I don't have anymore, but I do have aged up pregnant wilykit. It's not fetishy or anything
Jack Nelson
You think they released a topless loli model sheet? You crazy, boy.
They probably did draw one, but they weren't going to show it
Luis Harris
I could've drawn six nips.
Which gives me an idea for a future drawing
Elijah Torres
I love the both of yous. It's cool meeting artists I like.
Logan Morales
And you keep moving goal posts.
My stance remains the same. That tygra and the others were poorly and inconsistently characterized
Blake Scott
Post away.
Luke Perez
The designers on this show did something similar to Twilight Princess (particularly the zoras) and got really creative with biology-as-fashion. Lots of "clothes" or "hairstyles" that are part of people's body, or creative ways of mixing up body parts.. look at the elephants for example, whose tusks and trunks are arranged super differently from the real thing, either to make the mouths more able to have normal speech animation or as a pokemon reference >collab sh-shit, yes please
Henry Butler
>And you keep moving goal posts. He isn't even But I guess it's good to know you're all the same person.
Carter Martin
for anyone not on pixiv and you're interested hit me up over on discord. Panzer#3054
if these 2 idiots can keep arguing I can shill myself
Lucas Wilson
>Yea Forums Doesn't know shit about what's good and whiners are always the loudest voices. TRUTH
Rogue, Gambit and Wolverine are some of the most beloved X-Men characters. And you best believe people bitched to high heaven when ever they felt they were being written poorly.
Oliver Anderson
>if these 2 idiots can keep arguing Hey....there's at least 3 of us arguing
Liam Gutierrez
cheetara wasn't REALLY topless, user.
Cooper Murphy
more the merrier i guess.
David Hall
Rogue was only popular for dat ass. She was an annoying cunt.
Wtf is this supposed to prove? Did you think I think: and: Are the same person? Because I wasn't implying that.
Colton Moore
I guess that's cute. Her head is too childlike though.
Chase Clark
Maybe change the ratio?
Charles Adams
I just love art so much this is why Yea Forums a great
Andrew Lopez
I appreciate that. Usually i get people calling me names.
Carson Brooks
Well her mom certainly had a longer face, but her dad had a pretty chubby one, so there's no reason she couldn't keep a rounder face into adulthood. Plus she's pregners. Might have an extra chub on those cheeks.
I imagine that kind of thing is always going to have limited appeal since everyone's going to say "That's not how I'D draw them..."
James Parker
I wonder what the text says. And does this confirm that her nipples would be hidden by fur?
Lincoln Edwards
uh what? yes she was. Theres a little covering but its pretty topless
Hunter Harris
I remembered her having one arm over her tits, not both of them pressed together kinda covering. My bad.
Camden Lee
The supposed plans for the continuation sound so weird to me. Like, they don't seem like the natural flow of events from what had already aired, it's as if all the responsibility of establishing the narrative had completely changed hands. In short it reads like fanfic, but not in a way that indicates a drop in quality, in a way that makes it seem like someone brand new was in charge of the story.
Carson Myers
the only part that disappoints me is no redemption for pumyra. Or alternatively, after the monster thing, if it turned out that was never really her, just her puppeted body, and her soul is still around and she was actually nice all along, and maybe she'd get a robot body...
Alexander Powell
See, now to me THIS sounds like fanfic.
Jack Jenkins
It's hardly beyond the realm of something this show would do, and it's no stranger than their stated plans for her.. though, yeah, you said that sounds like fanfic to you
Easton Walker
A 10 years difference would be my limit if I were to date someone. Any older then that I feel we wouldn't get along.
Lucas Watson
Honestly this is the biggest issue of all, and increasingly it has little to do with age. It's hard to relate to anyone who didn't have the exact life you did, and there's more and more things to not relate about, or to disagree on. I'm happy not to live in braindead olden times, but it had to be nice when every girl in the village knew your village, your ways, there was no politics, no differences of lifestyle or religion... Even the women my age aren't the way I was back in the day anymore, they're.. different now. They lost all the shit that was important to us as teenagers in the 00s.
Chase Howard
Yeah it especially cool when you find something here that isn't posted anywhere else. ColdFusion yeah? It's hard to tell anonymously. I think we talked on another thumdercats thread before, I always liked your wilykit stuff. I practice but it takes me forever to finish a drawing and I need tons of references, so it's cool to meet artists I like that make it look easy.
Oopsy, ColdFusion yeah? It's hard to tell anonymously. I think we talked on another thumdercats thread before, I always liked your wilykit stuff. I practice but it takes me forever to finish a drawing and I need tons of references, so it's cool to meet artists I like that make it look easy.
That part was meant for you, sorry I'm phone posting before bed.
Well the practice helps. I've started giving some discounts on wilykit commissions just because I'm so used to her it's less work But honestly I look back at all my old stuff and the proportions are all over the place, and I didn't have her hair or face right at all... but it's nice to be appreciated. actually you got it right the first time.
Josiah Rivera
I don't have it scanned yet and my cheap phones camera sucks. Also I Mostly use these guys for reference so kinda off topic if that matters. I appreciate you asking though, I'll get out there soon.
Cute as they are, I don't think they'd be very good references for much beyond their own series. That silver one has tiny short little shins for one thing, unless those little shaded marks are somehow his calves and not the knee-marks they seem to be.
Brody Foster
>Cheetarah was that hot >Never get any more art of her >Gold diggers is fucking literally what nowadays so no real chance of more Britany Diggers and even then it was mostly fetishy weird shit of late
Being fan of cheetah/catgirls in that human face but fully furred/colored style is suffering.
make your own thing, user! there's a void in our lives. it doesn't have to be a comic, you can just make up some characters and..... okay, you couldn't post them on Yea Forums, but.. okay so there's really no good place to post things like that and get non-cringey people to follow it and work with you, but don't give up.
Jace Harris
yeah pretty much, I can only date someone who was born in '83 to about '01 maybe '03 if we were to get along.
Tyler Lee
where mah hot teenage girls from the 80s cryogenically frozen for literally my entire life at? I feel like I'd get along with those the best of all, going by old TV made when I was a baby. I certainly had a crush on much older girls when I was little, it's just the object of my affection remained girls that age, and they never were into me, no matter what age I managed to hit. only old-ass ladies who probably actually were 80s teenagers, that's the only interest I've ever gotten.
Christopher White
It gets even more difficult because the artists style changes throughout the series. I try to add more realistic anatomy (I think) from what I learned from figure drawing while attempting to keep it cartoony. I really wish I had the scanned now, I could be getting advice from panzer.
Oh I can't draw worth shit and the last time I did when I was 8-10 or whatever it was egyptian style 2d. But there's enough good OCs of that style I see now and then to enjoy it. I just wish I could see more in some major animation or game.
Grayson Baker
oh that's not him you're talkin to right now though for that matter the style on Tcats changes a lot too. Especially head proportions for the wee ones. and we can see how the model sheets were even smaller-bodied than what we got. I hear you. Of course there's always commissions, but it's not the same.
Andrew Cruz
im not great for advice
Evan Long
>tfw never getting that butt reference in High Resolution
Jaxson Butler
In the expressions pics you can see that she's drawn topless or maybe even naked
stuff like this always gets me wondering what we don't see...
Cooper Ross
Yeah the best advice comes from someone who used to suck, and worked their way out of it. They can zero in on just what you gotta do. I mean let's be honest, it's a reference for her, er, 'shorts' since the skirt is all petal-strips and an artist would need to know how to do that man you wouldnt be able to even do that today. all cartoon girls with skirts have to have fucking shorts under em.
Hunter Jenkins
I still suck desu,
Lincoln Martinez
And they had to draw her sticking her butt out for that? come on, man
Alexander Rodriguez
Panzer here. To the guy wanting me to look at your work. Is there anywhere I can follow you at? So you don't disappear when the thread dies?
Dominic King
she appears to be leaning forward. the most logical angle would be an 'upskirt' view, but either way I think you'd want to get the tail out of the way and illustrate more of the cheeks (so the artist knows exactly where the leghole stops). If she were viewed from the rear and standing up straight, you wouldn't get very useful information for posing.
Eli Parker
Nice
Landon Lee
>helpin anons out what a guy. Hope that user remembers to say tanks
Gavin Fisher
How do I get a gf 6 years younger than me Yea Forums? I feel Lion-O's relationship with Wilykit inspired me.
Jaxon Carter
that's bologna
Sebastian Taylor
No, that's a butt.
Christian Taylor
Netflix Thundercats season 2 when?
Sebastian Lopez
Panz here. I'll be in the next thundercats thread fyi
