>has a body count in the thousands cause he was rejected once (one time) when he was a kid
The most pathetic villain backstory, or the most pathetic villain backstory ever?
Has a body count in the thousands cause he was rejected once (one time) when he was a kid
Carter King
Xavier Bell
Excuse me, sir, but you've posted one of the biggest Chad's in comics thank you very much. Lex fucking Luthor has complimented Sivana's work, and Thad The Chad married a 10/10
Mason Thomas
Please more Sivana in Shazam 2.
Aiden James
Since Sivana lost the eye of sin and is working with Mister Mind, I hope they focus more on his intellect.
Brody Torres
Sivana in the comics invented a lot of shit that we currently have like Rockets, Walkmans, and all other gadgets.
Cameron Perry
Are Gayden and Sandberg crazy enough to do it?
Nicholas Brown
Where evil scientists are concerned people not recognizing his genius is a lot better backstory than HE MADE ME BALD.
Cameron Murphy
Sivana is better than Luthor because he doesn't hide his pettiness. The guy isn't afraid to slit a kid's throat, or hold a wizard at knifepoint to threaten Gods.
Nathaniel Lee
The movie doesn't really do Sivana justice.
Carter Allen
I really hope that the team takes the movie's success as a signal to go big on the weird shit. Go to the animal realms and have conversations with talking gators!
Dylan Scott
This. If he wanted to Sivana could grow himself a Pompadour that could be seen from orbit.
Alexander Richardson
Part of the problem is that Lex was already a KUH-RAAAZY guy instead of being cool and manipulative like in the comics, so if they'd gone all in on Sivana being a supergenius petty asshole it would have overlapped heavily with Lex's role in the DCEU.
Jayden Murphy
Just a scene where Mark Strong pulls a knife on Billy after covering his mouth would've done wonders.
Cameron Hall
>implying the DCEU is still "a thing"
It flopped, everyone hated it and chances are that they're gonna change it all when they get the chance
Adam Hill
I dunno, man. He was pretty ready to torture Freddy.
Aaron Brooks
I was just thinking earlier about how fucking much I miss old Sivana, I don't necessarily hate the idea of Sivana knowing both magic and science but once you give him magical powers like Billy and Black Adam without science as an explanation it just kinda falls apart for me.
He's supposed to be smarter than Lex Luthor, if not his equal. The same way Lex can be the archenemy of a super OP alien by just being a very fucking smart human, Sivana should be able to be Billy's archenemy without the need of a magic eye or lightning hands.
Jason Hill
Strangely, mad scientist villains are out of vogue, which is really weird to me. The most anyone does with super science is when Lex did the thing that Doomsday.
Nicholas Wilson
COMIN THROUGH THOUGHT YOU KNEW BUT IF YOU DIDNT FUCK YOU
David Mitchell
>Strangely, mad scientist villains are out of vogue, which is really weird to me.
It's because people are afraid of being "scientifically inaccurate" with their fantasy strongman books.
It gets really bad when they try to be "accurate", which usually ends up not only inaccurate, but also severely dates the work in the process. It's like they don't understand that science is always changing. It's better to get ahead of it than behind it.
Dylan Gray
It’s like they forgot that mad science is basically magic, only with more bullshit explanations and then the cackling glee. Hopefully with Mr. Mind, we’ll get some super science in Shazam 2.
Jack Garcia
>I thought movie Sivanna was just going to walk out of prison through the wall
Jaxon Cooper
>success
Shazam bombed
Isaac Green
I think he got her because she is an alien from another planet where she is a 1/10 and he is a 10/10 when it comes to looks.
Jayden Martin
That’s amazing. I always wondered why his wife was so hot.
Kevin Carter
Oh, like Golden Age Lex Luthor's alien wife?
Noah Kelly
Aiden Jenkins
Jacob Walker
I'm surprised they didnt after spending so much time with his magic alphabet.
Samuel Smith
That's the movie origin.
Dylan Reed
>somehow completely botched the Bodog
>he’s still up there with Zod for best villain of the DCEU
How did they do it?
Nolan Fisher
By not having a lot of good villains in the DCEU so far, I guess? Does the Suicide Squad even count?
Brandon Gonzalez
it turns people into comic book movie producers?
Justin Butler
I mean you’re not wrong, but I genuinely like Zod so. Okay, that’s way more damning by faint praise than I meant.
Hudson Green
It didn't
Jordan Williams
>Has inventions that can make the world a better place.
>Everyone rejects him.
>Fucks off to Venus.
>Conquers the untamed world.
>Comes back for revenge on the fools who disregarded him.
Sivana is a cool guy.
Luke Walker
...
Jacob Myers
underrated post
Juan Ortiz
Venus is confirmed to be the second planet closest to the sun and hot as fuck because of it. This means that Sivana and his kids pretty much survived living on a planet's worse than living out in the desert.
Benjamin Lewis
The Sivanas are a hardy lot.
John Fisher
Sivana is too much of a chad for normies to handle.
Carson Moore
Man, it still fucking slays me that people used to think that all the planets in the solar system were exactly like Earth. Like, you could just fly to Mercury and breath the air perfectly fine and oppress the natives who no doubt lived there.
Justin Sanders
>was able to take control of Darkseid's mind control helmets during Final Crisis
>could have hijacked Darkseid's plan and rule over everyone right then and there
>didn't cause he probably just didn't feel like it
Sivana is so fucking cool
Dylan Green
> Pannenkoek in a universe where super mario 64 doesn't exist
Joseph Gutierrez
>do something similar to this in the movie
>have it serve as some allusion/foreshadowing to the anti-life equation
It writes itself, anons
Easton Parker
Eli Foster
basically got cheat codes to the universe, strong nigga. CHIM.
Landon Cooper
>Use level skip codes just to fuck with someone doing level skip.
Luke Hill
Goddamn this is incredible. From what decade was this? Captain Marvel seems way more entertaining and readable than the Silver Age Batman comics I tried to read.
Oliver Gray
> smart enough to break the universe
> will probably fall for that stupidy obvious announcement
he follows the rules to a T and is oblivious, is he canonically autistic?
Luis Morgan
The 40s. A lot of Golden Age Captain Marvel is a pretty fun read.
Samuel Lewis
That's who he reminds me of looks wise.
Nicholas Long
Sivana is using his science to fuck up history.
Christian Cook
There's a very good reason why people praise Frank Miller. Old Batman Comics were pretty terrible and pretty much ripping off Zorro and the Shadow plot points.
Only Silver Age Superman holds up because some of them were written by the same guy who did the Captain Marvel Comics.
Levi Sanchez
I meant he reads between the lines and can't think outside the box, not that he follows the law or anything like that.
Justin Cruz
Jason Torres
Sivana is that stereotypical mad scientist. He get so caught up in his evil schemes he loses sight of some things.
Christian Turner
Sivana is good at getting into the Rock of Eternity and fucking shit up. With just a knife he got the gods to revoke Billy's powers.
Luis Price
Sivana can think outside the box.He's not above gunning innocent people down with a simple revolver, or threatening to slit Billy's throat in his sleep as a kid.
Matthew Ortiz
>Sad!
William Gray
Mason Fisher
Dylan Reyes
Andrew Wood
> Plan is literally just sneak into his house and offing the cunt with an axe
This villain is out of control. he's the kind of man who would probably not put shooting someone on the shitter below him.
Jaxson Russell
One of his more successful plans to deal with Captain Marvel was getting him thrown in jail.
Austin Diaz
John Bell
There is a very solid reason Cap was beating the tar out Superman in sales.
Nathan Reed
wait isnt that the guy from animaniacs?
Carson Cox
There is a reason why Captain Marvel was more popular that Superman during the old days.
Wyatt Howard
Very fun, here is a half you.
Evan Parker
Doom has got to be up there. His entire reign of villainy started because Reed pointed out a mistake of his and he refused to heed his advice and it ended up failing. And he blames the guy trying to help him.
Angel Mitchell
A (You) is a (You), you can't say it's only half.
Jose Sanchez
Aaron Carter
Years ago Yea Forums would have Black Manta threads
Now we have Sivana threads
Why are these 2 villains so good
Kayden Nguyen
There's just something so great about villains that go really out of their way to fuck with the hero.
Jackson Powell
I adore GA Shazam but it really makes me wonder if Solomon was as wise as he's cracked up to be...
Nicholas Morris
Nope
Henry Ward
Nein
Hudson Edwards
Better yet YOU GET SUPERPOWERS. Martian gravity is a joke so you're basically Superman.
Nathaniel Taylor
I wish we had more characters who can just bend reality like this casting spells that are actually math.
Jaxon Ross
Elijah Carter
Aside from Sivana, Mr.Mind and Black Adam, there aren’t a lot of Shazam villains that are that interesting to me imo.
Blaze is more of a Superman villain.
Chain Lightning and Sinclair is half baked.
Captain Nazi is outdated, waaay more suited for a JSA villain considering he doesn’t have a connection to the Marvel family anymore.
No one remembers the Golden Age villains.
Really wish they brought back more of the older characters and update them a bit (Without a nuclear suicide bomb this time).
Tyler Brooks
You gotta admire people that take pleasure in their work.
Benjamin Edwards
DVDs and laserdiscs too.
Jackson Barnes
And he gets royalties for none of it. No wonder he’s a villain.
Mason Russell
He's influenced a surprising lot of characters. Thaddeus 'Rusty' Venture among them.
Elijah Ramirez
Guy on the left with the earrings doesn't seem into it, he probably thought he was going to a gay synchronized swimming meeting and got co-opt into this.
Brody Wilson
I mean, he signed up to be a science fiction, underwater pirate, and it turns out that he's just helping his boss unrelentingly troll some rich asshole from Atlantis. I'd be annoyed too.
Nathan Jones
Manta and Sivana should join forces with the Reverse Flash and form the Triumvirate of Pettiness.
Jose Thompson
Carson Hill
Anthony Walker
>Implying any of them would work well in a team
Each would want the other two to focus on their nemesis and throw autistic super-tantrums when the others refuse and want to focus on their nemesis instead
Henry Reed
William Cook
>casually spending 100 USD back then
Looks like crime does pay after all!
Kevin Baker
he won't seem so tough after I misalign his QPUs
Xavier Kelly
Black Manta hires anybody and everybody to fuck with Aquaman. From black nationalists to recovering alcoholics, any one is a soldier in Manta's private, eternal war against Aquaman.
Charles Walker
In DC math is magic. You chant an equation and reality changes, just like a wizard saying something tin Latin and reality changes.
Jeremiah Butler
IBAC, SABBAC, and Mr Atom are often treated as eltie goons.
Brayden Robinson
All villains are pathetic, regardless of their backstory. Letting unfortunate circumstances, and petty vices control them is rather pitiful...
David Phillips
My fave is Pied Piper’s
The bitch was bored before they changed it to him wanting to pay his parents back for the war surgeries and then Johns changing it to giving the money to the poor
Owen Collins
i want Mark Strong to play Sivana's kids in the sequel (just CGI his face onto a girls and boys body)
Jacob King
Hey Johnny, her eyes are up there.
Adam Gomez
Oh God please. Someone make Gayden and Sandberg watch Doom Patrol, and tell them "Ten percent weirder than this."
Evan Green
Don’t forget one of the equations is straight up sapient, joined the Green Lanterns and some FUCKING how put on a semblance of their uniform
Anthony Phillips
critical support for comrade Sivana
Grayson Morris
Doctor Sivana isn't the most pathetic supervillain. Dr. /r9k/ is.
Samuel Sullivan
Don't forget the other DC math that once was depicted with a form.
David Parker
That's the same backstory the Mad Hatter has, down to the killing thousands.
Difference is Sivana's managed to get married and have children since.