>Legion of Super-Heroes: Millennium #2 Cover Introduces New Heroes
*DC has revealed the upcoming cover for Legion of Super-Heroes: Millennium, featuring a look at some of the new characters set to join the superhero team from the future.
>One of those heroes is Superman's son, Jonathan Kent, the newest teenage hero to go by the name Superboy. The cover by artist Ryan Sook shows Superboy stretching out his right hand to receive a Legion flight ring, theoretically confirming his status as the Legion's newest member.
*Of course, Superman was a previous member of the Legion of Super-Heroes, starring in the fittingly titled, Superboy and the Legion of Super-Heroes, back when he was known as Superboy. The series saw Superboy travel to the far future to fight alongside the team he helped inspire in the '50s and '60s.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH MAKE HIM STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>DC previously released the cover and solicitation to Superman #15, which features the Legion of Super-Heroes meeting Superman and Superboy. The solicitation teases the Legion making an offer to a hero, which will "tear Superman’s life apart." At the time, those clues pointed to the Legion making an offer to Jonathan Kent, with the young hero journeying back to the future with the team.
*Legion of Super-Heroes: Millennium #2, by Brian Michael Bendis and Ryan Sook, goes on sale in November.
>cbr.com
Posting some designs.
Based Bendis, Making something actually interesting with Jon and not the boring family shit that Tomasi did
Hmm, not a bad suit
>doubling down on the native american ancient aliens
Remember to Boycott this shit and anything else related to the aged up Jon, if you want younger Jon. No compromise, it's deage/rescue the younger Jon kent retroactively or nothing people. If Legion suffers and dies, it's on DC's hands.
I fucking hate this bald asshole
Yeah yeah have the (You)
I don’t want to root against a legion of Superheroes book being a success, but.....aw fuck it I hope this flops hard.
Is this image entering the uncanny valley for anyone else?
legion will be prime ground for new bendis ocs for the dollars
aged up Jon always looks so soulless
Ugh what is this cancer
The tragedy here is that if this fails it gives DC the idea no one wants a LoSH book. Fucking hate Bendis
absolute unit
>Matter Eat Lad is no longer a fat LAD
Why does he look like a fucking powerlifter now
Looks like her super power isn't going to be "has dreams when she sleeps" anymore
When did Matter-Eater Lad turn into Matter-Eater Dad?
>Bendis will attempt to write a native American girl
>Mr “I grew up Jewish so I know the prejudice that Black children feel” Bendis
Looks good
I think Bendis will try to weave the Dreaming into her somehow.
Farewell, Breast Lass...
This looks horrible.
Fuck Bendis for aging up Jon.
The only thing this lad eats is pussy.
Not bad really.
It makes sense. You can't really have fat superheroes because its a high intensity job.
Wouldn't this count as stereotyping?
You don't have to try so hard
Logic is for nerds
I mean, is there a world where a LoSH book that isn't headlined by an A-list talent would be remotely successful nowadays? It seems like there's a very vocal minority that loves them, but no one else can give two shits.
Fuck you whiney fucking babies. Legion of Superheroes is extremely poorly collected. FYL hardcover was cancelled. Great Darkness is OOP. Bendis shining a light on Legion creates awareness, which leads to reprints/new collections. You idiots are so fucking shortsighted. You'd rather Bendis not do this at all, instead of the option of just pretending it doesn't exist (which would be the case anyway) and getting reprints out of it.
I'm fascinated by rlthese reactions. New 52 Superman caught hell from many of you because of the "LINESLINESLINES" on his costume. This Superboy costume has roughly infinity more lines, but you all seem to like it.
>which leads to reprints/new collections.
No it doesn't.
Cosmic boy asian. Whos the storm clone next to him?
Whos the black guy in the middle of staboy and captain cold girl?
Karate kid is bald and asian.
I see White Witch above the ring.
Why can I see him not using the actual Jew, Colossal Kid?
Shove a dick up your mouth, Bendis.
Yes it does you fucking moron. I can tell you don't read comics. Fuck me, the appearance of Booster Gold in Heroes in Crisis precipitated a Dan Jurgen's run hardcover this fall.
That fat blackguy is bouncing boy and triad in cold glasses.
Oh, I didn’t mind that suit actually, he could still be Superman without the trunks, and I enjoyed the red lines around sleeves, for this one, I like the upper red part on top and the shades of blue, also the crest
Phantom girls skin is purple.
Funny how Light lass is the slutty one now.
just re-read the back issues and fuck Bendis
>now.
She was a huge slut in threeboot
Levithan upfront. Girl or boy?
Whos next to dawnstar?
Whos next to light lass?
That doesn't count.
What happened to his scar to remind him hes part human?
You want to support reprints of actually good material, go ahead. I might get some stuff that interests me as well. I don't consider it to fall under the purview of my boycott
But I would rather have more of the rebirth superman family and Supersons. I want Jon Kent back how he was before bendis aged him up and had him tortured for the entirety of his adolescence on earth 3. And I'm willing to accept his aged version of Jon. So yeah I'm boycotting this version of the legion and everything else with Bendis's aged up Jon. And I have no intention of being quiet about it.
Because he’s not a Bendis original character that the bald fuck can collect royalties off of after he’s done with him
who's light lass there? The one with the blue visor? Next to her could be Invisible Kid (I)
Are Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning dead? Why the fuck does this keep happening
Scar faded because of time energy when he went to the future
Their reprint line ended after the first two volumes barely sold fuck all.
>Bendis
>having any idea what the Dreaming is, let alone the cosmic implications of its involvement in anything
Thank you for using all those words to address nothing I said
Phantasy Star?
How fitting, since you said nothing at all beyond "SUPPORT BENDIS FOR MUH REPRINTS."
Yeah blue visor. And ur prob right.
That's not what I said at all. Work on your reading comprehension.
He looks like a Ken doll with those creepy eyes and smile lmao
>Collections called "The Legion by Abnett and Lanning
>Never actually gets to reprint the series called "The Legion"
The start of the reboot trades ("Legionnaires") line also seems to be dead.
You said that we should look on the "bright side" of us maybe getting reprints of classic legion material and just be quiet and not complain about bendis's stuff. I think I adressed both points("If they reprint something classic you like go ahead and get it" and "No, I want them to know I'm boycotting and why")
Yes, that's a far cry from me saying "support Bendis, buy this comic." Anyway I get your point and I think we've reached an understanding. Have a good day my anonymous friend
Even if you were right, it doesn't mean shit for LoSH. It means oldfags have their trips though memory lane, while Bendis blazes new trails which will have lasting effects on the brand for years to come. You gain a momentary satisfaction, while the franchise suffers from Bendis cancer.
Projectra.
You literally whined and bitched about how people are (rightfully) shitting on this idea instead of supporting it, and justified it in saying how we can get reprints out of it (something that hardly ever happens, and when it does it's typically shit too).
I'd hardly call having access to reprints "momentary satisfaction." To a lot of us, access to that classic material is all we care for. Pretending Bendis isn't writing it is the same as it not being published, which has been the state for years now. But I understand Yea Forums doesn't give a fuck about comics that were published before 2010. It's the same people who whine and bitch about the MCU, meanwhile the MCU has precipitated a deluge of reprints. Just pretend the thing you dislike doesn't exist and the enjoy the things you like. Imagine ???
is the fat black guy supposed to be bouncing boy? i can't think of any other legion fat guys.
this is pretty ok
Who
Danny, Jon is looking pretty handsome here.
Bendis tends to know just enough to use the concept, but not enough for him to use said concept right.
Nice dreamy titties
Who are these two?
Isn't she supposed to be a decent martial artist? How is she supposed to fight with all that hair?
These two?
Left might be a literal Shrinking Violet
Right is looking like Timberwolf to me
You are mistaking him with Bouncing Boy. MEL was always fit.
Phantom Girl and Ultra boy.
Reflecto and kent.
Reboot?
Bouncing black boy and triad.
Karate Kid has been half Japanese since the late nineties.
What are you talking about?
Shut up
Abnett went back to 40k, its SIEGE OF TERRA TIME!
Well, this isn't Superman and it's from the future. I never really got mad at the new 52 suits, just felt that it was out of place for some reason.
Plus, it really depends on the artist.
>The solicitation teases the Legion making an offer to a hero, which will "tear Superman’s life apart."
Will the Legion, as long time friends of Superman, offer to teach his son some valuable skills? No, they will tear his life apart.
Our of curiosity, are there any comics, alternate verses even, with Damian grown up?
No_u
Superman never was a member in this version.
Batman 666
The Just?
Suit seems fine, if generic.
Then again, I don't think I really inspected Superman's suits enough to really speak for the quality.
Could have been though.
Rond Vidar.
It was during Morrison's run, Batman #666, #700, and that one issue in Batman Inc.
Is Sook a troll?
Nope. All info suggests other wise.
Hippy nerd lad. Might also be gay.
No, just we can't have a blue eyes, blonde and conventional atractive character.
Saturn girl? Light lass is blonde here.
i really don't like that bouncing boy design. the hair is too high effort, the beard is too low effort, this guy doesn't look like my fun co-worker. something more like pic would work better if they wanted to make him black.
why'd they change triplicate girl's entire colour scheme? it was totally unique.
He looks like a guy who creeps on you in the bathroom.
That's Mon El.
To be fair everyone was asking for Jon to join the Legion and Superboy is a really important character to the Legion.
Also EVERYONE constantly adds new characters, that's kind of their whole thing.
What would a Bendis Dreaming look like though? He already changed one of the 8 realms already.
best cover of the year so far
None of them are new.
>But I understand Yea Forums doesn't give a fuck about comics that were published before 2010.
It doesn't matter what Yea Forums cares about. Yea Forums's opinion on a book has never influenced sales one way or the other. What matters is what normies and casuals will care about. And more importantly than that, what matters is what Hollywood will care about. Eventually, LoSH will be shopped around for a movie adaptation. What version of the team do you think WB will favor? Some obscure 80s run, or the dank and funky fresh Bendis run? At that point, the Bendis version will be the one everything thinks about when the name "Legion of Super Heroes" is mentioned.
Sounds about right
he's going to ruin by boy Wilffire isn't he
So is the guy behind the top of the ring Tyroc or Invisible Kid II? Or just some guy Sook racebent for the luls?
34 legion members. Not all on cover.
Nobody I can think of was asking Jon to join the legion. And The problem is they aged up Jon to seventeen(and the circumstances under which it happened) and are probably having him move to the future full time instead of commuting. If Jon was only maybe thirteen and was just going to the future on weekends it would be acceptable.
He's basically the only one who still looks like himself.
Oh, forgot to add male character.
I always liked the idea of Jon joining the Legion for awhile, like 10-15 years from now. You know, after enough time had passed for him to grow from being a kid to a teenager (sort of like how Tim did between the 90's and later 2000's), after spending time with his father and learning how to use his powers. Hell, maybe when it became time for his walkabout, he'd go for a few years to become his own man and reconcile the person his father has raised and the person he's become on his own.
But not yet. Because for now he is a kid who still has so much to learn from his parents, and his best friend. Well, at least he used to.
all I can see is his face plat in that image
i'm more worried about how bendis going to write him
I liked his relationship with Dawnstar
jon and damian should have both joined the LOS
it would have been far interesting with the Legion teaching them a little or something
Damian being trained by Karate Kid would have been an instant buy from me
I don't have it, but we've seen his design in full and it's fine. But yeah, Bendis is obviously going to fuck up him too.
kek
why not have him join the legion as a young kid? stranded in time. he could be like everyone's little brother.
>"is it true superman can really lift-"
>"he's secretly super lame he keeps playing country roads and singing along in the car in front of damien ok please stop talking like this"
Having Damian in the book would have been horrible. He's a batman character so he would have hogged all of the attention because "batman sells" and would have been portrayed as a near perfect genius who is better than everyone at everything because he's the son of Batman who was raised by assassins. There's no way they would have allowed him to take the backseat in a team book.
shit you're right
Because compared to this dogshit, it's a huge improvement. Also, lines aside, the cut of the suit reminds me of the best parts of the New 52 Earth 2 Superman suit, and the Rebirth Superman suit. Not sure how I feel about the boots being reduced to slippers, but on one hand they might be meant to be an homage to his Chucks, and I do like the symmetry of the darker blue on his forearms and his shins/calves.
>someone got paid to make those concepts
Wow, pretty low standards. To all the shitty artist out there, send your resumee over to DC, there might be a gig for you.
Looks ok
they'll pay you peanuts
unironically they used to have segments where people(usually women) would send in outfit concepts and they'd use them.
>they managed to being back the nu52 costume
Disgusting
Needs supergirl.
>why not have him join the legion as a young kid? stranded in time. he could be like everyone's little brother.
From a storytelling standpoint, they had established that he was too young to join the Titans. On top of that, I don't like the idea of Jon being a little kid lost in space. Not only is there no chance Clark wouldn't do everything in his power to find him in that context, but it's also a lot of what they just did in the SUper Sons min that finished. As such, I like the idea of Super Sons being a thing that would go on until Jon was old enough to join the Titans, which would make it so he and Damian would have a well known brotherhood like Tim, Conner, and Bart had from the Young Justice days. Then when Jon is on the Titans, and is determined to be competent enough to be trusted by the Titans and his dad, you could have him get lost in space, and be trusted to get back on his own, or able to notify those back home where he is. Hell, play off of the friendship with Damian, and have something happen that seems to threaten it. Damian would be like his Dad, and Jon could make the choice to spend some time in the future, then when they cool off, Jon could come back, and Damian would realize his stoicism was foolish and they'd be best friends again.
On top of that, kid Jon being in the future would feel, little brother aside, almost like the Legion was being treated like a glorified baby sitter/ daycare.
It's not like these designs are logical, but why would Invisible Kid have a green costume and what looks like a pretty weird symbol that's not an "i" on his chest?
invisible kid is in the left hand side of the picture, being invisible
you cant stop me
Bendis is
Fair.
The problem is I don't know how many of these lines are going to be on the finished pic. I'm looking at and I see some but not on the cape and collar like in In fact, I don't see a collar in the cover. It still suffers from over-design, but isn't as bad as the New 52 armor suit.
All we need now is retcon that mordu or dmoinators created Jon.
Then say the raising of him was fake.
The Bendis is good.
The Bendis is great.
We surrender our will as of this date.
Looks like a mix of New 52 and the Reborn suit. I like it.
I'd really have preferred it if they did something like this:
>introduce a legion who were supes' legion when he was a kid
>don't make them super old, but older than they were when they met him so late teens or so
>they come back to the past to meet supes and find out about jon and basically treat him like their collective nephew
>they and supes agree that jon could benefit from being around them for a little while
>he goes back to the future with them for say 6-ish issues, but it's not the first arc of the run
>have some adventures, teach him some stuff
>it's dramatic but not horribly dramatic, allows him to use his powers and grow a little
>they take him back to the past, he's learnt stuff and will miss them but is happy to be back
>damian is slightly jealous
I love it. If they had a competent team on it, use that as the spinoff like how Super Sons was spun out of Superman, and spin a new Legion book of out it, and have Jon come back often enough where he isn't a regular, but it doesn't feel like a crossover push with another book when he does.
>This design
Yeah he is no longer a lad.
>that absurd pointless level of detail
why would an artist do that to themselves?
This one is shit.
This one sucks too.
>Implying Neil Gaiman would let Bendis ruin any of his creations.
He did remove her real wings, so I guess he wanted to make up for that or something.
What does your seeing eye dog think of it?
let me know when Amethyst is collected in color, asshole
>his creations.
Fuck off m8, you want Bendis to ruin the Dreaming too?
These all look good, I dig it.
That cover is downright fantastic
50/50
Some of them look good, some of tem don't.
The Dreaming's been ruined since Caitlin Kiernan and company
And Spurrier's helping ruin it too
Well I don't want it ruined by Bendis too.
How bad are these new Sandman related books?
Fake fan.
Matter-Eater Chad
that should be ivys new look
Very.
Give me a quick rundown.
best thing DC's publishing
An amazing evolution.
>energy wings
No.;maybe for her and Wildfire's hypothetical kid, but not Dawny herself.
Wildfire is a twink.
The last one looks so shit compared to the rest.
Green Lives Matter.
Remember when Vril Dox killed one of the sky indians to make her into an energy being who could be his version of Dawnstar and Wildfire?
I like how he just straight up has a Latin E on his shirt, like it's the sixties again. The others at least use Interlac or negative space to get the point across.
Xs and gates and shazam girl will show up.
He's become a zombie? Is this result of aids from him being gay?
>This will sell like dogshit and DC won't use the Legion again for ten years with another complete near reimagining
And the cycle repeats.
Probably. At this point they might as well just collect all the old stuff and let them rest because it's not like they're going to be kind to them.
Don't make me slap you.
>Dubs
>No dubs
Who do I should believe?
Is the black kid by Sun Boy Jacques? I hope so. I wonder who the Gwenpool looking girl is. I like the look of the purple girls at the top.
Also Wildfire and Dawny next to each other.
He looks better on the cover where I get more of the hippie/zen vibe from him which I dig.
The fat, black kid is presumably Bouncing Boy.
WHY?
>black kid by Sun Boy
>realizing he's fat and a hint of blue.
oh it's fucking bouncing boy. ok
I don't see anyone with tricolors which would be easy an obvious one.
someone in the back has a mohawk like Garth's.
that girl in the back with the crown, Jeckie? she's not a snake which boo but also not a human.
What is with these people and giving Super characters fascist-looking high collars.
He doesn't have the collar on the cover
>Collar
>Lines for the sake of it
Not good.
He still has a dumb beard and a huge square with a E on his chest. And it's not an Interlac E, which would make more sense for an alien.
I don't think fascists have a claim on high collars
Have you read Injustice?
WHERE'S MY SUPER SHOTAS REEEEEE
So I can't find likely candidates for
Triplicate Girl
Ultra Boy
Ferro Lad?
Invisible Kid
Karate Kid
Light Lass
Phantom Girl
Shrinking Vi
Star Boy
White Witch
and we've got 6 people on the left, 3 above the ring, mohawk behind Superboy, and the brown kid in green and the blonde on the right.
I'm not against the E in theory but it looks like they just threw it on in photoshop because they forgot to give him a logo
> (OP)
FUCK OFF YOU FAGGOT GIMME THE REAL JON BACK
Val is probably the bald guy in the lower left corner.
This looks like a bunch of hipster playing pretend they are aliens or some shit.
This actually looks good. It has an ''intergalactic'' vibe into it.
this comic is going to bomb
I love the Legion but I refuse to buy anything written by Bendis
He has an E in most of his designs, but it's usually in Interlac or in the form of negative space (only in the reboot) and that's way more subtle. And yes, it looks like shitty photoshop.
>This looks like a bunch of hipster playing pretend they are aliens or some shit.
so the Legion
He looks like he eats pussy with a knife and fork
does current superman know these guys??
did he hang out with them as a kid?
whew lad
I mean, yes but, compare with and the first one looks so fake in comparison. It has no fucking soul on it.
I'm really wondering who the kid in green is. Could be either gender and really any race with how much racebending there is in this. It's obviously not Tenzil, but the only other Legionnaire who wears a lot of green is Kinetix and I highly doubt that it's her.
are you talking about matter eater lad?
Why not just have new members and say the original dudes are now adults?
that is to say the Adult Legion are now retired/teachers at legion academy
they had the perfect setup
>Jon is sad that Robin wont let him join the Teen Titans
>Superman mentions he used to hang out with a pretty cool group of super teens when he was a kid
>suddenly time bubble shows up
>adult versions of original LoSH 3 members asks Jon if he wants to go to Legion Academy for the summer
>have original dudes now being adults and teaching hero school
>bring in new "cool" looking heroes for jon to hang out with.
Nope, the kid on the cover who's above Elemental Lad on the right.
oh I thought you were talking about the classic LOS pic not the one op posted
We would have "fans" bitching about OCs.
He also briefly appeared in that recent arc where Titans Tomorrow Tim became "Savior".
There was also an entire mini-series taking place in that future, but it wasn't good (not by Morrison).
Adult Damian also has appeared in the Batman Beyond comics, but there he isn't Batman (or Robin), but rather the new leader of the league of assassins.
Fans bitch more about reimagining old characters instead of OCs.
Oh, fuck off. Nobody cares about OCs if they're actually well-written.
Aesome. When LOSH is inevitably cancelled after 12 issues Jon can disappear with them completely
this
OCs are loved when their well written
I was saying on Yea Forums forever that's what it needed to be. Bendis doing Jon and OCs in Legion Academy and someone else doing the Legion proper book. Kinda like how nu52 had Levitz doing it in Legion and Adventure Comics
I was thinking maaaaaaaaybe Chemical King?
>Chemical King
Makes about as much sense as anything else. Would at least be green enough.
Nah, mate. New characters happen all the time in LOSH, like the Academy kids. No, the problem is that Bendis OCs are usually interesting concepts, but will have no thought put into them whatsoever. A good OC needs effort, which Brian is virtually allergic to.
underrated post.
would be too obvious...DC would rather reboot legion for the 40th time.
>have OG Legion with Teen Clark (or adult legion with superman...not that he has to be in it all the time)
>have young NEW Legion OCs (or kids in legion academy trying to make the team) with Jon.
get ready for another super genius black girl that's the best at everything
No.
Look how they massacred my boy!
Will Jon get to meet his slutty robo great-great-grand-daughter?
Phantom girl is the pruple alien. Ultra boy is next to her.
Light lass is the blue viser blonde.
Shrinking vi seems to be male now.
Star boy is the goldface blond alien.
Whute witch is there but seems theres two.
I hope they fuck
I wonder if he'll meet a young Supergirl
>removing Superman/boy from LoSH AGAIN
whats the point?? why is it such an awful idea to have teen clark be with the legion? they always end up putting him back in the team anyway.
>bbbbbut i don't want superboy
what an odd thing to complain about.
God, Sook sucks at character design.
>preliminary character designs by HERO MACHINE
He really does.
Tellus.
Already exists. Danielle Focart, AKA Computo II. Technopath, high level intellect. Named herself after the villain who almost killed her for some reason, and should probably hit up a therapist about that.
This time you'll have to use an existing character for once, Brian!
na he'll make his own
Bendis wants those royalties
No royalties for that. He'll create a new black girl who is much smarter than Brainiac 5 and ready to show him that she's stronk and independent and she's going to lead the team.
Matter Eater Lad has been blacked. Cosmic Boy has been yellowed. Element Lad is the bastard child of Metamorpho and Mera. Sorry gonna join the Bendis Boycott on this one.
>royalties
>implying anybody but him is going to actually use his poorly thought out waste of space character
Same with Johns and Jason(should've been Donna). We'll never see that piece of shit ever again.
And yeah, I know, "But Riri though...". She's an Iron, and the Legion has a ton of much more marketable characters than whoever the fuck Bendis will spew out.
Nah Matter Eater Lad is just tanned.
didn't he make Miles Morals
>Jon gets to go on a super cool time warp learning trip
>Damien just gets sent to a ritch summer camp
It's very unlikely, but not impossible. And it doesn't cost him anything to chuck a character in there so that he gets paid if it does somehow come to that.
Only bouncing boy switched race.
And polor boy gay.
Yes but Bendis pushed really hard and used him on everything he could. This on the oterside will be forgotten in a few year.
he'll force his oc into everything, just watch
Bendis doesn't care about making good comics. He is just trying to bank in on the movie cape trend
The thing with Miles is that Bendis pushed FOR YEARS for him to be relevant. He won't have that in DC. He won't last even half the time he did at Marvel.
Bendis is so predictable but yeah this is a clear way to get Jon away from the main Superman title. I would have honestly accepted this if another person other than Bendis was handling this but nope.
Eventually once this comic dies so will Jon and then crises happens and they don't have to bring Jon back.
I want to be excited for this, but it seems weird to just have Kon be on the same exact team with the same line up as his father. And you know the leigon is the exact kind of fodder bendis looooooves to go through to set up whatever banal event he has coming
Hahaha I hadn't noticed that but yeah they were Legion writers too (although I haven't read it, was their run good?).
I guess we now know what's Bendis' next space related project in the future, huh?
>damian is slightly jealous
Is he going to be jealous the same way Bruce was jealous of Lightning Lad being too chummy with Clark?
>was their run good?
It's really good and very uncollected because DC are cunts.
It's oing to be successful.
>Hahaha I hadn't noticed that but yeah they were Legion writers too (although I haven't read it, was their run good?).
Andy Schmidt was the group editor for the Annihilation event. When trying to think of how to revitalize Marvel's cosmic line, he literally looked to who was doing LoSH in recent years.
sktchd.com
>Schmidt: We were doing the Thanos book in our office, and so when Jim (Starlin) left that book, Tom and I didn’t really have a game plan. We knew issue #7 had to come out. And so I turned around in the office and said, “Hey Tom, I loved when Keith Giffen did Legion of Super-Heroes. I’ve always wanted to work with him. What do you think of giving him a call?” And Tom kind of thought about it and was like, “Sure, go for it.” So I looked him up and called him.
>Silver Surfer was easy, as Giffen tackled that mini. Up next was Nova, which was co-written by eventual Marvel cosmic stalwarts Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning.
>Schmidt was a fan of Abnett and Lanning’s work together on Legion Lost, a 12 issue series they did at DC, as well as a Legion of Super-Heroes run that found the duo reinventing Ra’s Al Ghul for a new era. That fit what Annihilation was trying to do perfectly. It worked for Abnett and Lanning, as they had already been pitching Marvel on a Nova series before this event. That made the project appealing. The pair found it to be a good working experience with Schmidt and Giffen.
They made two trades, and they both sold horribly. Less than 4000 copies to bookstores, and the LCS sales were terrible too
>Legion By Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning Vol. 1 1,069
>Legion By Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning Vol. 2 885
You don't get more trades with those sales. They even advertised it with Olivier Coipel's name.
Legion Lost, the mini that Scmidt liked, is collected in vol 2. The actual "The Legion" series followed that, but is uncollected
It's not. Have you looked at the numbers for Naomi? Marvel handed DC a dud.
Nobody buys nigger bitch comics desu.
No one buys fucking Bendis. He was faltering hard at Marvel unable to retain numbers and instead of easing him in with smaller characters DC handed him the goddamn fucking keys the castle. He soiled a lot of good faith DC built up with Rebirth. Superman was finally well received again specifically because of Jon, Lois, and Clark being a family. Superman's sales were up, DC's sales were up, and they botched it the first chance they got because fuckers like DiDio didn't want to accept that Johns and other writers were right about what fans wanted from their universe.
As a Legion fan I honestly just want to end it all.
That's the thing. It's Bendis so it'll sell for a few issues before it'll plummet like everything else he's done in the last few years because only the most mindless of brainlets will be able to stomach it.
Legion at this point will only sell to Legion fans and Legion fans aren't going to want this shit.
Cringe.
Explain pre flashpoint terrible sales?
Nobody buys the Legion either, so it can hardly be a worse seller with Bendis than it would already have been.
Thanks I'll check DnA Legion out because of this.
DC's trade department is retarded.
>oh look this old material that we barely announce and don't promote at all sells and pre-orders poorly better just cancel it
>Explain pre flashpoint terrible sales?
It was still DiDio's vision of what he wanted from DC. Reminder he was the guy in charge of Beast Machines when he was at Mainframe and the reason it turned out so shit was because he told the writers to ignore Beast Wars because its continuity was "too complicated" so they should just do whatever they wanted.
The problem is, has been and always will be Dan DiDio. As long as he's around DC will never truly improve because his vision of things is really, really fucking stupid.
Maybe he will grow up now that he is getting married and will allow characters to grow and have families.
If he's this bad now imagine how much worse he'll be after the divorce.
>element lad now hippie brainy
these designs reek of tumblr influence
Having a family doesn't necessarily translate to character growth.
>pokemon sword n sheild lookin like trash
>new legion book designs look pretty shit all around
>only interested in a handful of cartoons
holy fuck this is the worst entertainment timeline, fuck you bendis you ruined my dreams
It did for Supes and Flash.
who the fuck is this and why did they make him brown?
More like Matter-Eater Chad
Jan....my Jan....
Poison Ivy's retarded brother
>All these traced faces
I wonder how you faggots manage to stuff this shit down your throat
Bendis couldn't just do a legion book where an older Jon goes to the future, he had to simultaneously age jon up to ruin that entire dynamic that literally a whole other book circulated around to do it.
Does he have the imagination of a turnip?
I'm pretty sure the LOSH fans liked it to maintain that silver age camp look. Like, a lot. So much that I've never seen them approve of departing from it.
This seems tone deaf to the audience.
What has Sook done
This is Bendis fanfic, LOSH fans are not going to like it.
Woke fans where pretending to cheer on the idea of a more diverse legion, but now that the new designs are showing up, the nostalgia is breaking the facade.
Ok, I actually think Dream Girl and Matter Eater Lad's new looks are pretty cool, especially the fact that he looks like a FMA character.
Burn this shit to the ground
They've massacred my girl.
I'm looking at CBR and Newsarama and the reactions seem kind of lukewarm at best.
Because telling the truth hurts people, and we can't have honesty in the current year(s).
Nah, if it was Tumblr he'd be a pretty but genderconfused boy with an edgy haircut and piercings. Not an ugly shade of green with a beard.
If only this was Imra's outfit
Brainy's design literally has high heals.
That would be pretty useful if anyone gets injured.
I really like this
I'm not even mad, he is a huge bi fag in canon anyway so it make sense
It's not like Sook can draw, but those heels don't look like they're supposed to be particularly tall. A competent artist would probably just draw them like something like pic related.
That's not even Robert Downey Jr. tier.
Please for the love of god no
Looks like a poor ordinary rando dragged into joining a superhero team.
Is she Wet DreamGirl now?
Like she wasn't before?
I hope you're right, but that right foot is saying woman shoes.
This cover feels so uncanny, it's like after the initiation is over, then begins the sex orgies.
This is as racist as every "land of the rising sun" japanese character having fire/light-based powers. How have we not moved past this?
For the life of me, I don't get how Tyroc was (correctly) perceived as a painfully stereotypical character and jettisoned into history, but his contemporary Dawnstar who is even more of a walking stereotype gets a pass. I mean, sure, big boobs, but still.
Tassles, war paint, turquoise, "spirit" wings. Her superpower is *super-tracking*. Jesus Christ.
Want to be *actually* representative? Just raceswap Phantom Girl or Triplicate Girl to be native american and drop Dawnstar altogether. Imagine that, a native american with a powerset and costume that has nothing to do with feathers, who'd thunk.
Pretty sure the guy in the blue collar is Mon-El. The other guy that's yellow might be Sunboy.
I kinda like it, but there are indeed problems with it. The blue war paint is shit. Red would've been more appropriate. The symbol on her chest makes no sense hence why the look is so cluttered.
Who knows, maybe he's been retconned as an angry manlet.
WE HAVE TO GO BACK
Son-Boy is presumably in the lower right corner here , but it's possible that he has an "off" form too.
Sun-Boy, Son-Boy is just Jon's new superhero name.
I wonder how LGBT fans will take Jan's objectively terrible redesign. He was sorta seen as a "gay icon" despite only dating girls like Ayla, Montress, flirting with Kid Quantum to be his evil black goddess in legion lost. Writer's felt the need to turn one of his girlfriends into a tranny to confirm the stupid gay headcanon. (Which thankfully had them blacklisted)
I use to think this was the worst Element Lad design. Glad Bendis is proving me wrong.
Tumblr are sort of mad about it already, though I guess it'll depend on how he and the other confirmed and sort of confirmed GBT characters are portrayed. It's Bendis, so there's a decent chance that he doesn't know about most of them and won't use the rest in favour of turning someone straight gay.
Here's a fan artist's take
Jan is far more Hetro then Brainy.
I'm ALL for a diverse actually ALIEN LOOKING Legion of superheroes! Not some pallet swapped humanoids drug junkies. It's like Ryan had a color palette dart board ready, and used any random colors the darts would hit for each character. Style consisting is dead.
Tell that to El Bendos.
Barracuda joins the Legion of superheroes?
Bump
Black Guy Fierri?
context?
Not important, the joke was he's giving off a Bill Cosby smile.
I hope Mysa is alright
that's fair
still, who's the david mitchell looking guy?
youtube.com
it won't for didio though
The Legion of Super- Gay Hroes.
the jacket was better
"The Legion of Super-Queeros"
SOMEBODY STOP HIM
We at-least need some wholesome RJ again.
Gay Mekt loincloth when?
It kinda seems like he may have been removed from their origin so who knows
gay, this is just the threeboot all over again.
I'm just glad it's not something I actually give a shit about.
iirc bendis said that this legion formed becuase of like necessity against a crisis or some shit
hopefuly it was a fashion crisis so we can get some better fuckin designs
Matter-Eater Lad, you're RIPPED
The fucking state of this fandom
What, Legion or Superman?
Both I guess, now that you mention Sups.
Seems accurate.
WHY
IS
HE
BLACK
LMAO
It's shit like this that makes me regret spending any money in the past on comic books. I just want it all to burn. Bendis is almost single-handedly the reason I got into pirating comics in the first place.
Really? He looks like a dark skinned Russian dude to me. Not "black"
brilliant
Fans are waking up to this shit
I hope some legit concept artist comes along and completely shits on Sook's designs "this is how you not design characters"
How is a legion designed by a tumblr artist better then this crap?
Because one is traditional, and one had Sook making the Legion for a younger generation.
The "younger generation" are the fucking fans that grew up with the cartoon and read the two-boot comics. This legion looks far to bizarre to appeal to a fresh new audience.
That fan is no longer the younger generation, user.
Well this is so going to bomb.
Doubt it. Bendis comics just don't bomb, sadly.
Pretty sure Riri was fucked until other better writer's took the helm.
He writing comics series of beloved well know characters right now, spiderman fans can bitch and moan about how his run sucked, but spiderman will still forever be the top selling comic in the industry. Legion is another beast though with a long ass history of retconning and rebooting. The chances of this surviving are slim.
Mexican
Tumblr is kinda half assblasted and half stupid too. I can't remember this chick's username but she's on there too.
I mean, you get exceptions. The majority of his books sell on his name alone. It sucks, but that's just how it is.
We've come a long way haven't we
so when this bombs how long are we gonna have to wait for another fuckin run
Far too long.
Another good half decade
Ah, to not be a legion fan.
Feels great.
Genuinely sorry for you guys, though. And I'm sad to see Jon isn't getting fixed.
just you wait
bendis is the cancer that spreads through an industry, hell will come for you soon enough user
Understandably, to be us is to know true suffering.
It's kind of sad seeing Ross LoSH and then Sook redesigns.
I hope your not a Batman fan then.
BENDIS ON SUPERMAN
BENDIS ON YOUNG JUSTICE
BENDIS ON BATMAN
BENDIS ON LEGION
BENDIS ON YOUR MOTHER
My favorite marvel character is Doctor Doom. And I loved the Scott-led period of the x-men. And Scott and Emma together. So yes, I've suffered.
I am, but there's a morbidly curious part of me about how much worse than King things can get.
incredibly lazy and uninspired
He has come.
Garth has the worst sidecut hair.
Poor Rokk, he'll never get use to looking at the back of Garth's head now.
I'm going to be pissed if they turn my waifu into a lesbian
Saturn Girl is one of the big leads so I expect it
If Imra's gonna be gay, it better be with Dream Girl or Light Lass
It feels like Bendis would rather do it to one of the more secondary characters, except not one that makes sense. Sun Boy maybe? Or Phantom Girl?
>Spider-Man and Garfield
That reminds me, TMK weren't allowed to explicitly make Light Lass/Shrinking Violet a couple, even though they definitely were.
In 2001 when asked about it, Todd and Mary Bieurbaum replied that Ayla is gay....for Saturn Girl
OH SHIT
Who cares what they think though. They made Erin trans to pander to "Gay Jan".
I would go lesbians if all the men around me had sidecuts like Garth.
He doesn't have a sidecut, he has a failed mohawk.
You still have to feel bad for her. Ayla is a good replacement Garth though
I'll feel even worse for her if people are right and she's now blonde.
>Make the legion so different it alienates older fans
>Also make all the designs look like dog-shit to gross out new fans.
This has "dead team book" written all over it.
FUCK BENDIS
That's a Trump parody.
Remember, Trump was a living meme as far back as the 80s.
Bump
is this supposed to be brainy lusting over clark and kara?
Or at least thinking about his bisexual urges
Is Earth-3 Brainy an unrestrained slut?
all brainys are sluts
some are just better at hiding it than others
Looking at his inner demons from the Three-boot, he probably has some closeted sexual feelings
Barracuda is on a plane, comes across a Trump parody who was his prison-bitch at one point, and Trump-expy reacts in horror to seeing him again.
Good luck making anyone cares after the 10th issue, Bendis. You comics sell like dogshit.
Man, that issue pretty much started the downward spiral of Nailbiter for me.
Screw you guys I love it
Perhaps if he panders with fan service, it will last longer. Half the new female designs are almost nude anyway. Just show more man abs, specifically Garth, Querl, and Rokk and we're all set.
WHICH ONE OF YOU CHUCKLEFUCKS USED THE MONKEY PAW?
WELL? WHO WAS IT!
disgusting
they should've kept his bad boy jacket aesthetic
>Querl is the only one with the most traditional design
Kek
They're a bit hit or miss.
God damn, Bendis should just write books instead. Paragraphs in comics?
Bendis didn't write that, Josh Williamson did. Bendis just guest-starred in the comic.
>There are 108 posters in this thread.
93 are here to bash Bendis for aging Jon.
10 are here because everyone else is here.
5 have actually read LoSH, with three reading beyond Great Darkness Saga.
I just want my comfy Legion threads in peace.
So is it parodying on his writing style then?
it was all of us user
we all wanted a legion book and we all knew bendis was comming
it was invetivable
Well hot damn.
I don't see the problem with a aged up Jon, posters just want to be mad about nothing.
Dawnstar- Is interesting with the light laser wings but unfortunately over designed with a cluttered trash symbol on her chest which could've just been a simplistic yellow star.
Blok- Dumb, but not horrible. Reminds me of a Zelda over-world enemy
Matter-Eater-Lad- I don't know why everyone is mad about this one, I think he looks fucking awesome.
Dream Girl- Aesthetically cool, but feels like a gimmick that will go nowhere
Element Lad- Oh boy...this one makes me so fucking angry. I don't know where to begin.
Hence the unrestrained part.
Yikes. How many books is Bendis writing for now, 5? Jfc I will never understand the mind of the brainlets who consume Bendisshit
Has anyone in LOS ever been raped
>Superman
>Action Comics
>Naomi
>Young Justice
>Like two or three indie titles
>Soon LoSH
No wonder that everything he writes is crap. Most writers can't keep up with more than two or occasionally three books, so he'd be stretched far too thin even if he actually could write good stories in the first place.
>dont see a problem with an aged up Jon
People know the Kents have a 10 year old kid, was supposed to be a new take on Superman mythos, disregards Jons new supporting cast, makes Clark and Lois complete retards and awful parents,etc. Damn you are dense
A failed Mohawk is a failed man.
Imra sorta date raped Cosmic Boy
Superman
Action Comics
Young Justice
LoSH
Naomi's done for now, and so are all of his creator owned projects
Hot
Yeah but why is he getting so much books. Superman and AC would probably sell no matter what but is his YJ also selling
Female character gets raped: Bad
Male character gets raped:
Never change internet
Have any other Male members of the LoS been raped
I must go to google
Cos is probably use to it at this point as being Imra's second bitch
Got this off TV tropes
>Saturn Girl tried to use her telepathic powers to bring Cosmic Boy out of a coma. It appeared that she'd succeeded, but instead she was subconsciously animating and controlling his comatose body; during this period they began dating, and Cos woke up at their wedding. This admittedly was not treated as "okay" so much as it was forgiven because Saturn Girl did it subconsciously, not on purpose.
Molested by woman or molested by dudes?
What did I just say? Bottom Bitch Cos.
Damn, Saturn girl x Cosmic boy are a textbook example of an abusive relationship
Remember the legion had this Macho super villain dude name Grimbor that would kidnap and "torture" the teenage male members with bondage?
Not exactly LoSH, but Brainiac 5's great grandfather was raped and murdered in a somewhat adjacent comic.
She sure does a lot of horrible questionable things ""subconsciously""
Tell me more
this deserved color
and slightly edited for my own autism's sake
>mfw forgot pic
He had a team member who belonged to a mysterious race of women who go into heat once in their life and rape and murder men until they find one that's strong enough to impregnate them with a worthy child. She found him, raped him and murdered him. Then his friend cloned his body and transferred his mind into it so he got better, but she later had his child in the most absurd way possible.
She would later use the whole rape/murder thing to taunt him a couple of times.
Perfection
Though I feel that Mon El would be a better pair for Querl
This is hot
What series is this
Just have him sleep with everyone. Kara, Clark, Lar, Nura, Lyle, that mermaid chick from that one comic, Andromeda, Rond and anyone else that is even slightly compatible.
From L.E.G.I.O.N #7
> we want the Nu52 audience
Ship him with Black Guy Fieri bouncing boy
But he has a waifu.
Too bad Lyrl has been erased in the new DC universe. Vril hasn't met Stealth in the new comics yet.
this reminds of a fic idea i had where its Clark Kara and maybe superman x from the cartoon vs mon-el and Andromeda for an oblivious brainys attention/ affection
basically kryptonians v daxamites
Technically we know fuck all about that. The Vril who showed up in No Justice was wearing his late era LEGION uniform, but he seemed to be somewhat loyal to his father (which he has never been) and he and Lobo didn't know each other. He also used the wrong name for himself and acted bratty in a way that he usually doesn't.
But LEGION ships and robots have been shown and name dropped in previous comics in the post-FP continuity and it has been implied that Invasion! is canon again.
So my conclusion is that Snyder is a hack and LEGION is around as they were pre-FP until otherwise explicitly stated. The "Vril" in No Justice may be a new clone that Brainiac made simply to taunt the real Vril.
>The "Vril" in No Justice may be a new clone that Brainiac made simply to taunt the real Vril.
I think the easiest explanation would be that Lyrl was using his name.
It fits the "Call me Brainiac" and bratty attitude that No Justice Vril exhibited.
Yeah, that's probably a even better explanation. You could have resolved pretty much every inconsistency in that comic by replacing him with Lyrl.
Time to tap
Thanks user
HAS ANYONE ON TUMBLR OR TWITTER MADE FANART OF THIS NEW LEGION? Is it so bad that not even fan-artists would touch it?
Shutup, everyone was getting tired of that Sup family dynamic.
nothing on twitter aside from mixed feelings on the designs and legit nothing on tumblr aside form like 5 posts ive seen just posting the desgins
i did find this cute imra on twitter
Nice reply jabroni
oh so like hulk meets the thing? wow that's super original and not at all derivative.
wait i also found (1) whole brainy
Nice try, shill
in conclusion
ive seen more posts about the fucking cartoon than i have bendis legion
have an exploitable thinking brainy
>lineslineslineslineslineslineslineslinesLINESLINESLINESLINESLINES!!!
>When the Legion finally comes back and you thought you'd finally have people to talk about them with but then everyone hates the designs and hates the series preemptively because of the writer
I mainly want it to come out to see if it's as bad as the worse fears say
The only reason nearly everyone was (were?) originally depicted as white people in the first place was racism. Even a lot of goddamn aliens were white people. pr white people with blue or green skin (maybe with an extra nose somewhere, or antennae). So changing shit up makes sense, *especially* 1000+ years into the future.
Please dont touch Jenni/XS
@DeniseFanta on Twitter has drawn some fanart of them
Yes
It's Brian Michael 'One Character Voice' Bendis tackling a massive cast. My expectations could not be lower
...
>Bendies crashing DC with no survivors
I love it. Now he's your cross to bear.
There's like a bunch of already canon poc legion members he could've used, they where made for the soul purpose of making the legion more diverse. Fuck Bendis and these rainbow race-bents.
I miss Jenni
Everyone is going to sound so goddamn dumb.
All the characters will be weirdly obnoxious and nerd out over Superboy, Brainy will be a shallow more dickish version of himself. Any black female will be Bendis's self insert kid that is 10 times smarter then Brainy.
I'm surprised this thread lasted so long
Or Brainy might be written like his Doctor Fate for "relatability".
Someone should redraw this with Bendis's legion
Anal happy trail?
That's gonna take a while. Maybe it will be finished in time for the next outrage thread.
What century is this, and there's a brownskinned Native American? They barely exist now, let alone in the far flung future.
In canon her race is still all dark skinned through a product of incest. I am not kidding .
>lets change them from white alliens to black and an asian aliens and some weird purple shit, see it totally makes more sense.
the designs are ass because most of the fucking characters arent recognizable which is awful when your dealing with characters who have like around 30 years of history
ive seen tumblr designs that are more recognizable while still race bending
thats not the new legion thou, its clearly inspired by the cartoon
It's all lost.
Just in case this thread dies...
NEW THREAD
ok you got me there