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in some alternate universe Sam Raimi got to make the Spider-man 3 he wanted and gave Harry a proper send off

I seriously don't get it. They were planning on making Spider-Man 4 either way, Raimi was ok with doing the black suit arc without Venom, why not just let him do what him wanted to do and then have another director come in and do Venom like they wanted in 4?

>Raimi was ok with doing the black suit arc without Venom
What

why hate venom when hes a fan favorite? honestly what is peoples problem with venom vs spiderman. he went out of his way to cast topher as venom raimi is retarded in this aspect.

Have the last scene with the symbiote be it bonding with Eddie and show h schemeing in the sewers or something at the end

Raimi was mostly interested in adapting the Silver Age Spidey stories since he read those back then, i guess he stopped reading around the time Venom got introduced

Raimi was only interested in adapting the stories he grew up reading, Venom came after he had grown out of comics, so he couldn't care less. Fucking up the casting was the only small measure of revenge he could have on the producers.

10/10 like every scene in Spider-Man 3. Die Holland tards

Clearly you'd never make it as a hollywood executive. Do a bunch of cocaine, start thinking as cynically as possible, then get back to me.

Raimi thought that Venom was a really shallow character and didn't see the use in making a movie about a character whose only redeeming feature is how cool he looks.

user, Venom showed up over a year after Spidey first got rid of the black suit. There's a clean break between the stories.

if he was that invested why did he ok that shitty ass green golblin design. that helmet/mask was infuriating to me.

>Venom was a really shallow character
how so the whole character makes sense and he is iconic and tied to spiderman like it or not. I thought the venom movie with out spiderman was going to be shit but they did a pretty good job without the cameos.

How would you possibly do a satisfactory black suit story arc without Venom? He just takes the suit off and that's it?

I for one, really wanted an entire movie of black suited spidey

Raimi wanted the Alex Ross designed Goblin and the practical effects rubber mask that floats around the internet as an effects test, but either Willem Dafoe or some outranking producers told him to fuck off with that.

Goblin was the result of the Superhero trend at the time of ''make everything either leather clothing or armor, no tights''
he originally wanted to use a motion mask but the studio declined, its actually miracle how close the Spidey suit stayed to the original during production

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>Spider-Man beats the shit out of Vulture and/or Sandman at the climax of the movie
>Cops and bystanders arrive and start shouting at him to stop
>Realizes he's beating a cancer patient and a struggling father to death
>"This fucking alien is fucking with my miiiiiind"
>Church bell scene

I thought it was because the actor couldn't breathe in the animatronic mask that they ditched it.

So wait, Emo-haircut Parker would have got in regardless? That was the worst part of the movie.

Lots of comic characters are shallow. That's why you adapt them. Venom has a lot to play with, with both Eddie and the Symbiote having a grudge against spiderman and a unique relationship between eachother. He could have used that.

I will defend Spiderman 3 to the end of my life. It had so many awesome moments and action sequences which even new MCU cant match.

Emo Pete was hilarious. And I'm not Sam Raimi, I can't explain his reasoning. Just re-state what he said as to why he didn't like Venom.

What happened to the good ol' days of film making when if an actor complained about the bulky costumes killing them, you just imported a bunch of Hong Kong stuntmen and made them do it anyway for half the pay?

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Having spidey best the bad guy in the final confrontation using the black suit feels like cheating

Emo Peter was fucking kino and the only problem with that at all is that TWO dance montages were unnecessary and the jazz club scene should've been cut.

im 100% sure emo peter only existed because Raimi was fucking with the studio
there is no other way

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Then have him beat the most sympathetic one under the influence of the suit (which is Sandman, as per the intended drafts), do the church scene, and have him fight Vulture fair and square.

That scene is eveil version of "raindrops falling over head " sequence from Spiderman 2 . It was suppose to be hatable. Raimi did that so well that even movie watchers hate it.

And over a decade later, here we are, still talking about it. Unironically brava Raimi.

Raimi's black suit didn't make him stronger, just a jackass

spidey 3 was a good one and I even got over my hate of topher being venom. Honestly wish Raimi didnt hate venom as much. Punished Harry Osborn was the shit on his airboard.

Even venom had a great sequence in church.

I loved the way spiderman used the pipes to defeat venom .

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The whole trilogy is KINO beyond human understanding

Neat scene, but when I first saw it I was too distracted by the locket and wondering why it didn’t get turned into sand like everything else in that pit. Flint had on plenty of metal bits, but they were all transformed along with him. Other than that it was one of the better moments of that movie.

I was gonna post the pic of him lifting motorcycles in the black suit but then I remembered he flexed on a speeding train so hard he stopped it without the black suit

Because Amy Pascal is a fucking idiot.

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But spiderman vs the amazing Spider-Man sounds great

That's pretty much the only scene in that entire movie that I like.

It's probably only second to Dr. Manhattan's origins for me as far as film adaptions of comic characters getting their powers.