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>another live-action remake
It better try to be its own thing rather than retreading what the 1998 version did.
I haven't gone to a single one and yet they still keep fucking making them.
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Where's Jason Scott Lee? I thought he was gonna be in this movie? Love him in Dragon.
Probably not gonna watch it though. Not really interested in Live Action stuff.
at least she's asian and not black
This actually looks fun desu. It doesn't have eddie murphy dragon or mor whimsical singing but seems like a heavy emphasis on action/martial arts.
It is, but only because it legally has to be. So it's a retread with all the fun shit surgically removed.
Disney drones are countless
so this is what we're doing now?
Just making live-action versions of old animated films....
LET’S GET DOWN TO BUSINESS
So Li Shang and Mushuu aren't in this?
she a cutie, but live-action isn't worth fighting for.
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>If it's a remake of a classic, rent the classic!
hohoho heehee
And another billion for Based Disney
Seems like it's trying to be its own thing and that's good. I mean it'll probably be mediocre at best but it's better than following the original Disney film then add some retarded progressive twist like BatB and Aladdin did. I have a soft spot for Mulan so I might check it out
90% from foreign markets.
Looks like a cheap tv show
>turning mulan into a kung fu master
This is a joke right?
>that generic royalty free dramatic music
This is the movie that gave us many classics and had great background music for the non-singing scenes. The least they could've done is throw in a song with some chinky aesthetic
>And another billion for Based Disney
Honestly? Yeah.
I mean people today are bored and Nostalgia + Special effects are an easy way to get an audience. Disney could just make movies like these in their sleep and still turn a profit, no issue.
You know, maybe this is all just a scheme to extent their copyright on those IPs.
I mean it looks like we get a Disney Princess stabbing people to death at least.
99% from China.
hmmmm why didn't they just make Mulan BLACK?
This. IDK what the fucking deal is with all these new live action movies but for a multi million dollar company that has basically mastered traditional and 3D animation these live action movies are total dogshit. Its sad when their live action shows on the disney channel are shot better than these movies.
I'm not a fan of Disney live action remakes in general but this actually looks like some decent wuxia. I just hope they keep at least some comedic elements to let the tension out
It looks like it's got plenty of wushu scenes just in that trailer alone so I think a complete retreading is out of the question
TO DEFEAT THE HANS
It looks pretty generic to be honest They took everything that makes Mulan great out and just adapted the real story
What “progressive twists” did Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin’s remakes do? For the former, are you referring to gay LeFou?
The only possible movies left are Tarzan, Emperor's New Groove (pls don't), Pocahontas (probably never), Fox and the Hound, Robin Hood, Hercules, and Pinocchio. Unless if they wanted to make a live action adaptation of nuDisney films. We're close to the end lads
The new graphics for Dynasty Warriors looks breddy gud
china would boicot the movie obviously
Disney knows they cant piss off the dragon. look at fucking star wars
Tarzan, Hercules and Pinocchio are probably the most adaptable.
It looks like a tv show, what the fuck?
Hercules directed by Joss Whedon. You know it’s the only way to get any comedy.
It's the second cheapest looking after Aladdin. Mulan looks like a TV movie and Aladdin looks straight up like a broadway production
>No Mushu
>Meaning no Eugenio Derbez dub
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Nah, copyright lasts 120 years after author’s death. They dont need to worry about renewing for awhile, and even if they did, these movies wouldnt “renew” their copyrights, that isnt how that works.
Now trademarks? Maybe, at least for a few of the IPs, but for most of them its just about the easy dosh.
mulan is not a princess, she's a commoner
Based china for saving us from niggers
damn dude thats edgy as fuck bro
>post yfw they make Tarzan black
BatB didn't really have a twist, but there were a lot of moments that felt shoehorned in. Like that time where Belle taught a woman how to read then some guy basically said "ugh this town already suffered when you know how to read let alone many". I didn't mind Le Fou being gay but the supposed gay scenes are just so insignificant. Also apparently Gaston is mean because he had PTSD from the war but that wasn't explored well at all.
>live action Emperor's New Groove
He will be Native American. I hope he’s at least hot still
Belle was a woke inventor who the rest of the town thought was a witch because of her science skills and knowledge.
Also the remake made it so that the town didn't actually look up to Gaston, LeFou just pays them to pretend to like Gaston.
The funny thing about Tarzan is he can be offensive as black or as white
Yes but she's still in the official princess lineup for some reason.
I thought her family was wealthy landowners or something. They had their own estate and were actual soldiery instead of levies because they had armour and their own horse for when called to war.
It’s literally impossible, which is why Disney will most assuredly try to remake it anyway
Live action Lilo and Stitch when
My guess is Pinocchio, it's the most "classic" one
Hey at least the actress is cute, glad they made a good actress desicion for once, saldy the remake won't be worthy
Needs more diversity.
Idris elba needs to play mulan and the only asian character should be the main Hun.
This.
Also Kronk is the best Disney character. Don't vandalize him with some gay shit
If they make a remake they'd better have Nina and/or Mata. I don't care if it's for feminist points.
Jokes on you.
Asian girls are ALWAYS cute
Is that fucking Keiko?
He literally married a woman in his movie.
Why is this fucking company so damn lazy? THIS is what her sword is suppose to look like. Not that cheap katana knockoff.
Irony is being English is literally the core identity of Tarzan.
>starring Key and Peele
Isnt there a Pinocchio live action already coming up directed by Guillermo Del Toro?
Wait that'd be great though.
People would protest because it lacks Latino representation.
they were not nobles. At best they were uppity commoners.
They're more likely to make Kuzco gay.
Would be hilarious if they did, because being egotistical and flamboyant suddenly means 100% gay.
>Kuzco
you mean Manco?
She looks cute in the poster because they shooped her a bit, she's very homely in reality.
I'd be pissed if they use that name in the live action movie.
>Disney could just make movies like these in their sleep
Are you implying they aren't?
Because the mouse wants China's market so they forced her into princess franchise though she's nothing related to the actual princess.
>Manco
Is there some joke I’m not in on?
>A black man being raised by gorillas
They'll make him the whitest, palest dude on the fucking planet just like The Ancient One.
It's on the slate, actually.
It was his name when The Emperor's New Groove was "Kingdom of the Sun"
It's Kuzco's name in Kingdom of the Sun that also sounds like "pussy" in Japanese, even David Spade admitted this
imagine her eating congee
I WANNA CUM INSIDE THAT SLUT
So, I guess the rumors of no crossdressing were true.
the incas were not latinos. The movie will be racist trash and be protested in to oblivion unless they only cast native peruvians without any hispanic blood for every single role.
HOLY FUCK IT LOOKS LIKR A POWER RANGERS FLIM
god no
>No cross-dressing
>No Mushu
>Girl worth fighting for is almost guaranteed to be cut
>Mulan practicing before training meaning she probably won't be a fuck up at the start
SOULLESS
Nothing to do with Spanish, then.
I'd actually pay money for a live action version of the Kingdom of the Sun movie we didn't get. Bonus points if it comes with an animated framing device of Kuzco riffing on his "big prestige biopic"
>everyone beliving this fan art of Starcraft was actually LA Stitch
Stop-motion, actually. Pat McHale is also involved. Should be great, especially if it’s coming from Netflix.
Of course they're not Latinos, but do SJWs even think that deep?
Manco means Armless in Spanish
Oh shit
>No cross-dressing
? Do you mean her friends? We don't know that, but we know she will be disguised as a man. The parts we see a lot of are just after she takes off her manly armor and helmet for some reason, which we also see.
>Masquerading as a man, Hua Jun,
Disney is making more of these?
Yep. Or handless.
most of their movies have been nothing but shitty live action reboots from stories they adapted or stole in the case of LK.
This looks like a generic kung fu fantasy movie. If you hadn't told me it was disney, I wouldn't have guessed it.
>MUH GIRL POWER
>MUH FEMINISM
Screw this movie
But... I'm a nigger, does this mean I don't matter?
Yep, that was THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE OF MULAN
That's literally the whole point of the story.
Yep, looking at their animated movies, Frozen 2 is the only one known to the public that's coming out. Animated movies numbered 59 to 61 haven't been announced yet.
There weren't any arabic actor in aladdin and the sjws stayed silent
It seems like to liberals every brown people is the same so it doesn't matter to them as long as they're not white
This, I do hope they'll keep the songs and maybe even the creature sidekicks.
Nah they'll make Jane black.
Why isn't she black?
This isn't very progressive. Any young girl should be able to see herself as a hero, not just Orientals. Who do I write to get this corrected?
It's because suits are retards and took out Mushu and all the other dumbshit the original has.
Will have the iconic hair cutting scene?
They want this movie to sell in china.
No it wasn't you lunatics
And it's confirmed Shang will be adapted out of this remake
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She holding a sword or a dildo?
That thing's fucking vibrating
She has a Dao, a perfectly acceptable Chinese sword.
>No it wasn't
Then what the fuck was Mulan doing in the army, proving herself to be strong like the guys
Then what the fuck is the point?
>It's Empire of the Sun
>she's very homely in reality.
I still think she's cute
>making her an elite fighter
Eh. I liked the original where it played to the character's strengths.
Literally TheRock
Still cute, just looks like she didn't wear makeup that day. Makes sense since she is supposed to look like a woman who can pass as a man.
Likely this.
So what happens now
The actual original Mulan was apparently a really good soldier and fighter.
I can see him pulling it off.
The man can do comedy.
*Frozen II
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Interesting to see east asian in Chinese period costume speaking English. Too bad the main character speaks with an accent.
>Mulan uses Mediterranean draw to fire the bow instead of the thumb draw used in Asia.
Dropped.
Not that user, but Mulan wasn't really about proving women can fight, too, but about protecting your family (And by extension, your homeland which is your "family"). Feminism is merely a bi-product of the story, but Mulan didn't join the army to prove a point. She just didn't want her elderly father and younger brother to die. She was also willing to kill herself than have to serve under the rule of foreigners (Fear of invasion is a strong theme in Asian stories). In some versions of Mulan, they kill her after finding out she's a woman, not very "girl power-y".
Not saying you can't find feminist themes in the story, but the greater theme of the story is about honor and nationalism.
>Lilo and Stitch
>Lady and the Tramp
>Cruella origin story
But Disney lost the rights to Tarzan.
"Latinos" weren't a thing during that time in Mesoamerica.
I hope this movie won't have any problematic songs like the original
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they do nowadays. Mandatory intersectionality critical theory classes have gone next level these days.
Disney needs to fucking stop.
fucking racist liberals. Not a single Arab in Aladin but not a peep from them.
Did we watch the same Disney adaptation?
Cast by Latino could be a better choice.
God forbid a woman learns to fight because A CIS MALE teaches her how
that and sjw will ignore things in support of the mouse
That's complete trash
I was clearly talking the original Mulan story, not just Disney. Someone said "original message".
It is its own thing, they even removed that captain character
If the action scenes are good I might see this but the pg rating makes that unlikely.
>but Mulan wasn't really about proving women can fight,
Mulan was absolutely about that point. One of the underlying thing from the Ballad of Mulan is about the large differences between the Northern and Southern Dynasties during the era of disunity and how the Northern Wei and its nomadic steppe derived culture was so different from the more traditional Southern Dynasties.
So never watch the thing, got it.
I assume the villain won't be a 7 feet tall mountain of muscle.
Liberals call every brown person a "person of color". They literally don't care.
They were low-status nobles. Commoners didn't have sprawling estates like that.
>build a wall to keep people out
>kill everyone who enters your border
when does the left call this movie racist and pro trump
Why isn't Mulan black?
because she isn't a red head
Person of color is broad enough that almost anyone but the whitest of the European races can fit into it.
it's just a way to say everyone that isn't white
You know the Chinese Wall didn't keep people out
well ya because they couldn't maintain it
Just like trumps?
we don't even have a wall yet nigga
Well no because the Chinese Wall actually exists
If you want to get technical, there were actually multiple themes and message in that film. Finding acceptance and belonging, not giving up, caring for family, etc.
>tfw my favorite Didny movie underpreformed and is safe from this soulless remaking
feels pretty good
>Irony is being English is literally the core identity of Tarzan.
I know just the guy
Feels more like a reboot rather than a remake.
china really hates this actor and I find it hilarious
you have no idea what those words mean do you
>this
>homely
The hell you want?
>There weren't any arabic actor in aladdin and the sjws stayed silent
No they didn't, it's more like people didn't pay attention to them because it's Disney.
>Cruella origin story
Why? We already have Glenn Close.
Consider. Jason Momoa.
So you are saying, that we will never get an live-action Treasure Planet?
>Lilo and Stitch
This is going to be such a shitshow.
This. Treasure Planet can’t be tampered with.
I don't think Momoa could turn down his Momoa-ness enough to play Kronk.
God help us all.
It would depend. It would certainly be bit of a different take on the character, but we would probably have one anyway, since there isn't really anyone to replace Eartha Kitt as Izma.
The best parts of this movie were the songs and Mushu's antics in my smelly opinion.
From what I understand, they're removing both those. Add to that it's a live action remake and there's nothing here that interests me.
...it kind of looks like she's going one woman army in the clips at the end? That'd be kinda disappointing - like she wins the fight against the huns and Shan Yu through her cleverness and leadership not just by beating bad guys up.
It is just a trailer though so hopefully they're just hyping it up WW/CM style. I hope there's still some fun Mulan trying to be a man shenanigans.
They're only remaking the successful films since they have the most nostalgiabuck potential. Treasure Planet and Atlantis will never be touched. Pocahontas or Princess and the Frog might if they think there is enough woke cred in it.
>According to The DisInsider, Mushu, a character that was voiced by actor Eddie Murphy in the original Disney animated film, will be replaced by a Phoenix in the live-action remake. That isn't the only change the site is reporting, however, as it goes on to say the movie will only use the original music as instrumentals, instead of having the characters sing the songs.
It’s fucked already
>PatF
Probably, but not for another few years.
>Pocahontas
Absolutely never happening lol, unless they do what they're doing with Mulan and be more accurate, and Pocahontas' real story is not the kind Disney wants to tell.
In the animated movie Mulan cut her hair before going to war, but in this trailer her hair still looks long during the battle scene
I like you
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>black man without parents is raised by apes
Yeah, like that will fly...
I’m shocked they haven’t done Black Caldron and leeched off Game of Thrones popularity.
at this point I'd rather have that than the movie butchering the songs so painfully like Aladdin and BatB
No Eartha Kitt? No dice.
There have been so many Pinocchio adaptations, including live action, that I don't see them bothering.
>must be able to convincingly pass as a young man
>WAAH WHY ISN'T SHE THE APEX OF FEMININE BEAUTY
see:
After cutting it as short as it is in the cartoon, her hair would be too short to put into the topknot she wears as a soldier. You could do that in cartoons, like the Disney movie or AtLA, but live action needs a longer length.
>you realize Mulan won't probably take baths (yes, plural) on camera this time around
they will black Jane just to fuck with you
This looks terrible. They make it seem more serious and dramatic than the animated Mulan ever was. Also, duty to fight and implied feminist empowerment message? That wasn't Mulan's duty. Mulan never wanted to go to war or prove she was competent as men. She only volunteered to protect her injured father who would obviously die in the war if he served. Mulan wanted to be a good wife. She wanted to be married. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with that? That's a natural biological urge that women have, just like men want to be married and be good husbands.
Most of all, where my boy Mushu?
>No Mushu
>No songs
>No Shan
>Mulan's dad couldn't even grow a fucking moustache
What's the fucking point?
I always liked how Mulan was kinda awkward in the beginning of the movie, and then turns into a badass. This one seems like its just going to be pure action, and she's already a stronk woman.
Will have to see more but I'm not impressed so far.
>What's the fucking point?
And no Huns, some kinda Witch. She won't be doing it for Family Honor but just for herself.
you can't have a woman look weak in movies
even if it's to show how they grow into a strong person
it would be very sexist
Will Xi Jinping in this movie ?
>men want to be married and be good husbands.
no, no it would not.
They've eliminated all her supporting cast.
Doubt its much "she's disguised as a man" as the original
Well don't worry your safe space. As it will have no songs.
Looks like they turned it into some generic China-pandering kung-fu movie so they can rake in those Chink-bucks they love so much.
>men want to be married and be good husbands
So they made her Hakka.
... interesting choice.
Mulan, as by the ballad and dramas, came from the north. She lived when non-Chinese ruled (either the Toba-Wei or the Mongols) and when it wasn’t completely unheard of that women take to the weapons. Yet it is implied that although she had the support of her family (they are happy to have her back and slaughter animals in her honor!) she is of Confucian background (weaving and later returning to her female lifestyle after 12(!) years of war).
The Hakka came together as a migrant group much later than the original Mulan’s expected life-team, earliest in the Tang-Dynasty. In opposite to Mulan’s heritage, they live in the south, mostly Guangdong.They create the typical roundhouses you see in the trailer and which are uncommon for the Han-Chinese majority (though Hakka are ethnically Han, too). Hakka placed emphasis on education over the military and their women did not bind their feet, which is relevant if you place Mulan in a post-Mongol era (the Disney movie created a weird mix of Yuan- and Ming dynasty).
However, the Hakka also have a history of persecution in the late Chinese Empire. There were multiple (!) genocides against the Hakka by the Cantonese, killing millions. That’s why they have spread so far over the globe, and they were very involved in several Chinese revolutions.
So the choice to place Mulan in a Hakka household is quite curious. It's as if they didn’t just randomly threw time periods and peoples into a pot and stirred.
well they need to make up their losses in china after making Ariel black
chinese don't like black people
Yep its no longer a musical and more a Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon knock off.
>he doesnt want to be a good husband
No wonder marriages have gone downhill.
Most men actually do, just not the men women almost exclusively aim for because they get so much free sex without committing to anyone
and they have so many options to choose from that they'd be crazy to settle down until they absolutely have to.
to emphasize she's a woman
Black Panther did pretty well in China, didn't it?
They're making this one just to pander to China, they know better than to fuck it up.
Calm down, anons. He said “good husbands,” not “good fathers.”
no it did not
china knows this, that's why they shrunk the black guy in the starwars posters
So money on this version running away to get in the army to ditch being matched with a husband rather than taking her fathers place for family honor reasons.
Got its ass beat by a Chinese Romcom
Because WOMEN are to blame for that. How to kill marriage? Enable and allow women to be their natural disloyal skank selfs and make it illegal to hold them accountable for cheating and cuckolding men into raising bastard children that aren't theirs.
Fuck you to hell you Gynocentric pile of shit.
Mods, get his ass
for wrong think?
Thankfully he's gone. Annoying shit character. Remember how he intentionally manipulated events with the military letter so that Mulan WOULD be in the front line of the war when dealing with the Huns. Bastard is supposed to keep her safe as family guardian, not throw her to the wolves.
No wonder the ancestors fired him and put him on Gong Ring Duty. He's a shit family guardian at the least and blatantly selfish about it at the worst given he's willing to sacrifice members of a family he's supposed to protect just to gamble and come out looking good even though it's a horrible thing to do.
Fuck off, also giving women the right to No Fault Divorce while still stealing men's money during divorce in the form of alimony or child support? No wonder marriage is dead. Also fuck the male simp faggots who enable and support this theft and throw innocent men in prison for not paying ex-wives who are just leeches abusing the Family Court system.
well these laws were made when women weren't really part of the workforce
they're outdated and sexist, it's the gender version of jim crow laws
>no songs
>won’t have that hard cut between GIRL WORTH FIGHTING FOOOORRR and the recruits getting to the burned out village that perfectly evoked the desolate horror of the battlefield and how woefully unprepared the young heroes were as they cheerfully rode to a glorious, easy battle
How are they gonna try and have this defining moment within the film? Just goofing around in an unfunny fashion talking about chicks or what?
He's probably expecting the girl from 500AD China trying to pass as a male to have a full face of makeup.
>talking about chicks
no that would be problematic
Just like "colored" was back in its day. We're regressing to a point where 'sigelwara', as used by the Anglo-Saxons, will be in vogue again.
Given women's true nature they never deserved such privileged laws that keep them provided for after divorcing their husbands. Women don't care about men collectively so fuck these horrible anti-male laws.
Women should NOT have rights. They should just be bred by men who can afford to breed and then killed after they're done fulfilling their biological purpose because fuck the other problem women have created with millions of autistic kids because they decide to have their first kid when they're in their mid thirties or worse the early 40s.
Edgy
Mulan being able to defeat Huns in a red dress without any armor?
Fucking bullshit.
Animation Mulan had the excuse of using rockets to cause an avalanche to kill so many Huns.
Live Action Mulan is like Dynasty Warriors on the other hand.
Are you mad because no gf?
You know Nutcracker, Wrinkle in Time, Dumbo flopped, right?
Where's that badass Fa Ping?
To be fair, Finn ended up being so irrelevant in the sequels in contrast to Rey and Kylo, to the point in TLJ he was shipped off with his fat asian GF in some snipe hunt. So maybe the Chinese were onto something.
>108573241
either bait or falsegflag
either way you get no (you)
the Chinese literally said they didn't want an unattractive black man in the movie. They want a handsome one like densel
>Doubt its much "she's disguised as a man" as the original
It literally says that in the quoted description and shows it. Are you guys not watching the trailer on youtube?
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>When the Emperor of China issues a decree that one man per family must serve in the Imperial Army to defend the country from Northern invaders, Hua Mulan, the eldest daughter of an honored warrior, steps in to take the place of her ailing father. Masquerading as a man, Hua Jun, she is tested every step of the way and must harness her inner-strength and embrace her true potential. It is an epic journey that will transform her into an honored warrior and earn her the respect of a grateful nation…and a proud father. “Mulan” features a celebrated international cast that includes:
>Yifei Liu as Mulan;
>Donnie Yen as Commander Tung;
>Jason Scott Lee as Böri Khan;
>Yoson An as Cheng Honghui;
>Gong Li as Xianniang
>Jet Li as the Emperor.
>The film is directed by Niki Caro from a screenplay by Rick Jaffa & Amanda Silver and Elizabeth Martin & Lauren Hynek based on the narrative poem “The Ballad of Mulan.”
They seemed to have divided Shang into Donnie Yen's and Yoson An's characters.
Nice fake background, Disney.
>Not Nulan
Also, why isn't she black ?
heh
Uh....she's not holding the bow right.
>Commander Tung
Wait wait wait wait where is Li Shang?
>asian
why would they allow this?
if asians want to see asians leads they can just watch a movie from asia
blacks and hispanics needs a shit ton more representation
and to say that there aren't any blacks and hispanic people living in ancient china is racist
>the Chinese literally said they didn't want an unattractive black man in the movie. They want a handsome one like densel
Well, John looks ok to me but that’s better than not wanting black people at all I guess. I wonder how they reacted to Kylo Ren taking off his mask. On another note, kek at google putting Chadwick in the search results for Denzel Washington
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Mulan being a blend of steppe martial ethos and Confucian filial piety is probably either how the Northern Wei saw itself or how the ruling and warrior classes possibly actually integrated themselves into preexisting socety.
>So the choice to place Mulan in a Hakka household is quite curious. It's as if they didn’t just randomly threw time periods and peoples into a pot and stirred.
The original had rockets which date from the Song as well as Huns which weren't really a thing during Northern Wei, which rather faced the Rouran Khaganate in several wars of pre-emptive aggression.
As stated, he is gone and he is either a combo of Tung (possibly a bit too old for her) and Cheng Honghui (a scrawny but handsome younger man), or is just Tung and there will be no romance, meaning Cheng is a combo of the 3 friends. Although Mulan's actress looks rather old herself, so maybe she is an appropriate age for Tung (Donnie).
So are there already kids who don't know that there are 2D animated versions of these films?
So...is the media not going to mention an Asian isn't directing it?
china never liked any of the star wars movies
they didn't mention that Black Panther was created by a white guy
so no
Tenk yuu berry much, yuu tink I'm beautifurr.
China's Star Wars is Transformers. It's the franchise that Millenials there have lots of nostalgia.
Came here to post this. What was wrong with the generic and nondescript Chinese villa from the original animated movie? Why go out of your way to have the Fa's live in a Hakka tulou? This might not mean anything to a Western audience but it's the equivalent of having Master and Commander take place on a Viking longship.
Lol pathetic. Can't make animations or new stuff so all they can do is recycle old cartoons the easiest way
The absolute state of amerimutts
Such a great moment and treated with all the gravity it deserved. Wouldn't be surprised if they cut the girl's doll out or the infamous "One" scene.
Why isn't Mulan black? Where's the diversity?
Well, Disney Mulan already does have the biggest kill count in the army...
I hate these live-action remakes but I'll actually go see this because it looks fucking great actually. Shame about no LET'S GET DOWN TO BUSINESS though.
This actually looks badass. I'm glad they aren't just remaking the cartoon.
if it's not in the movie I won't see it
doesnt china get a bunch of wuxia films? why'd they be more interested in yet another one
Why doesn't your boss order you to shill something good instead?
what happen to that white guy who was suppose to be a travelling merchant and falls in love with Mulan?
Didn't the Netflix cartoon do this?
Here is the trailer link. Ping looks badass.
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>white
Have a guess...
It's going to be Hercules
Meg will be black
I wonder how Mulan will do in the non Chinese markets, no songs & eddie murphy might piss people off
At least she's not black for no reason. They even removed the black guy from the cast. Looks like a win to me.
The blacks who got pissed at people for not liking black Ariel who exists solely to pander to them are probably the same who are pissed they removed their black representation dragon to make a movie that panders to the Chinese.
Why not make everyone black?
And the fact that in the original books in the monkey language "Tarzan" means "white skin"
Everyone loves this song.
Honor To Us All is more "problematic" as it really shoehorns in the western ideals for the "true to myself" b-plot.
Not that anyone remembers it anyway. I liked it cuz it sounded nice.
The way Mulan was handled, it absolutely was also about feminist principles, but in a more low key way since it wasnt the main focus of the original legend. The story was about doing right by her father and her country, but it was also about discovering herself and overcoming obstacles put forth by the society she lives in to do what's right. All of the songs in the movie support this and none of them are explicitly about her decision to save her family.
Most do, but some are shielded from the animated originals by parents who want to experience the “superior, REAL version” rather than a lame animated one.
Shit, I got lost in the chain. You're absolutely right about how the original legend is meant to be interpreted, my bad.
Not sure what those other guys are on about, but it is Yea Forums after all.
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She's on foot taking a "Powerful" stance against the whole army.
>Archers just plug her full of arrows.
Rumor i# there won’t be any singing so...
>"ailing father"
Looks okay to me. Original sold it better as he looked about seventy.
That one he just looks fat.
>First a black Ariel, now an ASIAN Mulan?!
There's also the fact that in the animated one he walked with a limp.
No Mushu, no songs and no Shang love interest. It's its own thing for the worse. Mainly the song loss is bothering me.
This looks pretty good, gives me hopes for Hercules.
>Ywn know the feeling of fearing your a fag for getting a BJ from a petite boy only to find out it's a girl
>all the profits comes from the asian market
Just like Aquaman then.
INVESTIGATION: Is it possible Disney doesn’t fully own the rights to the animated Mulan, including the iconic songs and original characters? We’ve done some digging and discovered that the animated Mulan was the last Disney film to begin production under Jeffrey Katzenberg.
Katzenberg oversaw classics like Beauty & the Beast, Aladdin and The Lion King. But Katzenberg was forced to resign from Disney in 1994 that lead to a MAJOR lawsuit in 1997. His most recent films had underperformed for Disney at that point, but Mulan had yet to be released.
The Katzenberg vs. Disney lawsuit went on for 19 months, during which he was one of the founders of DreamWorks SKG. Katzenberg argued he wasn’t fully paid for the Disney classics he oversaw, and sought 2% of those projects continual earnings (LA Times 1997).
The protracted lawsuit hinged on Disney not wanting to give up 2% of Aladdin, Beauty & the Beast + The Lion King. Those films were already classics in 1997 & proved to be profitable on Broadway. Hunchback and Hercules were underperformers and Mulan wasn’t released yet.
Katzenberg vs. Disney settled in 1997, but the terms of their settlement were confidential. Did Disney end up giving up 2% of Aladdin, Beauty & the Beast + Lion King? Doubtful. Those live-action adaptations are staying faithful to the original animated classics.
What did Disney give up? If it was a larger percent of Katzenberg’s other films, it explains why they aren’t using any ORIGINAL MATERIAL from Mulan. That cuts deeply into profit. Mulan & the Emperor are free to use bc they’re real ppl. Maybe the live-action isn’t a remake at all.
tldr:
Mulan wasn’t expected to be a hit. Before its release Disney was in a HUGE lawsuit w/ its former Studio Chief who wanted 2% of classics Aladdin + B&tB + Lion King & his other films. They privately settled the lawsuit b4 Mulan’s release, so he might own a large % of Mulan.
This doesn’t mean Disney can’t use Mulan characters. They did in the direct-to-video Mulan 2.
It means they profit less.
If they retcon Mulan for the live-action (like they’re doing) they own the new characters like the witch & sister. They get all that new merchandise money.
They played themselves cuz bully Chen Honghui merch is gonna collect dust while Li Shang, bisexual icon, would’ve flown off the shelves.
They’re hoping the gp won’t notice a difference b/w “Chen” & “Shang” like all Chinese names are interchangeable. Never underestimate icons.
Last Faux Mulan tweet: the film is currently in production & they never announced who’s playing Mulan’s mom and dad. They only announced she has a sister now. Is it possible her parents are considered original characters, so they aren’t using them either? Mess.
Tarzan was already done in 2016
>Black Cauldron live action
>They keep the goofy character that ruined everything
Or, you know, they could just go with PATRICK WARBURTON.
It totally does sound like she says fart.
They won’t. Remember these movies make most of their money from China. And they can’t risk the government ban
I don't know. Perhaps in the time it was made that was the extent of it, but in the Disney films she was bad at both the male and female activities of the time and only gained Shang's appreciation through not giving the fuck up like others did.
The whole lesson is you don't have to fall into either male or female roles to be a hero. She didn't win through traditional skills she won with perseverance and cunning. This one looks like she's going to be a warrior from the onset, which is true to the original tale but quite a different story.
Have you seen chinese films.
Man, I might actually get interested if they go somewhere with this unless it becomes the equivalent of what says.
Are there enough Greek or convincingly Greek actors to draw from to make a Hercules movie or will half the cast be spontaneously black?
>they're doing it
Was my prediction right are they going to make Mulan trans?
user thats...WAAAAY too good for Disney to consider doing.
Why act like it's a remake of the animated Mulan when it seems to just be straight based on the ballad of Mulan itself?
How idealistic. You know they'll just backtrack to spice things up. Prepare your ass for the live-action Sword in the Stone remake!
>inb4 they make sequels to the live action films
Where's Eddie Murphy?
I mean the vase girls were black
Why the hell do they have such heavy Chinese accents when it's spoken and marketed towards English audiences? Don't give me that excuse that they couldn't find East Asian actors that speak English fluently. There are literally millions in North America alone. There's a SEA city-state whose official language is English and is a East Asian-majority. And you're telling me multi-billion dollar net worth Disney couldn't find any willing to work with them?
Only if they use Saber.
they didn't wanna hire asians in the frist place
if all that whitewashing shit didn't take place, they would've hired a white actress or racially ambiguous to play her
This is why the Chinese and Africans will rule the world. Their future generation and people will still exist and populate the world once the Europeans decided that marriage and having a family is too much of a struggle.
>no Eddie Murphy lizard
Dropped.
DRAGON. He doesn't do that tongue thing.
For a second I thought BatB meant Back at the Barnyard, had me confused for a sec
>People complain about Bailey not being true to the original character then proceed to post Asian and Latina celebs saying "she deserved to be Ariel"
hmm..
I don't give a fuck what race they choose. I just wish they chose someone as beautiful as 2d Ariel.
>bisexual icon Li Shang
wat
Because she wasn't originally ginger.
Literally grasping at straws. Imagine being so deeply insecure you turn to fucking cartoons to validate your chosen method of making your dad mad.
if they wanted to do it right they're have a sort of blend of things where the folklore nature of it is emphasized and there's a sense of "tall tale with a reality backing it up".
and the reality being both more mundane and depressing but just if not more rich and fascinating (though the reality should also be more or less hinted at through background details and slips of the tongue here and there, with unreliable narrators and stuff).
you know like good stories are
Also that we are being pushed to get some hardcore race-mixing in. Also if your community/workplace has too many white people, some fucker on twitter will whine about it and get you fired.
People actually fucking miss the Eddie Murphy dragon? How the fuck do you even get that shit opinion?
That's like wanting an Olaf who's thrice as obnoxious and makes pop culture jokes, or wanting Heihei to be voiced by Jim Carrey. Who actually thinks Mushu is a good thing?
It's already evident that a bunch of changes have been made to the plot impetus, and I can't see how they could be for the better.
In the first movie, Mulan was getting ready to be matched, but here they start off saying she's already been matched, which means there's an actual person on the other side of the agreement that she'll be ditching.
This is less obvious, and I could be wrong, but it also sounds like they're changing the reason she goes to war. In the original it was solid self sacrifice "I go, or my crippled dad goes and surely dies, and they only take men, so I'll go as a man." It makes her sympathetic to all but the most legalist viewer.
It also sounds like they're selling her as already having training, which breaks the effectiveness of her struggle to keep up as a recruit.
>Mulan as a "big fish" type story.
that would be a pretty cool story,
the reality could be that she was an emergency runner for like an artillery battery or a nurse or something during ww2 or whatever and the grandfather is telling the story about his wife or something to his two grandchildren while they're in a hospital lobby embellishing it and whatnot. all the while slips of the tongue and pans over old mantlepiece photographs hint at the truths behind the embellishments.
>asian mulan
yikes
well he was british so it would fit nowadays
story starts getting darker and we start to see more gory details as the lighting/colors start getting more flat.
>sudden cut to the grandfather "waking up"/snapping out of trance of storytelling and changing the subject to something like "who's hungry?" as he's watching his grandkids so their parents can make their peace with their mother who's on her deathbed.
If given the choice, Disney would definitely had made Mulan black.
This trailer is still fresh and already there's cries of racism being thrown at those who don't like this shit.
I hope this bombs just to piss these fucks off.
so is this idea shit or not?
Yeah. That would be a good defense for everything to be black.
>It's live action
>But the voice actors play their characters
>inb4 they cast a mexican to play cuzco
kek
>It also sounds like they're selling her as already having training
That's literally how she's like in the original legend
Agreed, they are the first ones to say "All ya'll crackas is racist! ya'll niggas be hatin' on us, ya'll some bitches main."
She wouldn't be American that's for sure, American chicks are fat.
>"These Disney remakes suck, they're just beat for beat retelling of the original, they should at least try to make it their spin on it"
>Mulan remake doesn't try to be the like original and simply uses the framework to make its own story based on the same material
>"This remake is nothing like the original, I hate it because it's nothing like it"
You faggots deserve to suffer.
You people were bitching and moaning about the other LA remakes being too much like the originals up to making new covers of the songs. Make up for fucking mind.
This is correct. They didn't get Star Wars until way after it came out, so they don't give a shit. There's no cultural association with it or anything like that. It's just sequels to some movies from the 70s/80s nobody in their country saw.
I don't care much about the movie itself, I just really hope they bring back the Szechuan sauce
Memes aside, why was the Szechuan sauce such a goddamn big deal? Just go to an actual Chinese restaurant and get some
Yeah, I get it was a joke by Rick and Morty, but that only feeds into the bigger issue. It felt like the szechuan sauce was a genuine spot of nostalgia for the writers, and I can't fucking comprehend why. It was a goddamn novelty sauce from McDonalds that not a single soul has eaten in 20 years, not even the most autistic fuck among can remember the exact taste of something from 20 years ago, or think it was somehow superior to the thing it was a piss poor imitation of in the first place. The same goes for most other novelty foods, like the Ecto Cooler which I'm sorry was nothing fucking special.
That's the problem inherent with remakes, you cant make everyone happy. It's almost like remaking something that isn't even that old is a stupid idea because most of the people who would be interested in seeing it were alive when it came out.
>isn't even that old
Mulan is over 21 years old user.
>not Ming Na Wen
Dropped.
Have sex
>the book Tarzan was very much racist against blacks
>tfw Tarzan becomes the very thing he hates
>no Mushu
Black erasure is real.
Derbez es puto
>Trailer
Boi, that’s a teaser
Because of those sweet nostaliga bucks
I'm just happy Jason Scott Lee is doing more film work.
Even cuter
>she's fast
Nothing personal, kid
>people who use homely as an insult
I wish Americans didn't do this and imply being homely as a bad thing. Can't call an American woman homely without making her feel indignant and not pretty.
>tfw this does nothing because these films attract the literal lowest of the low IQ film goers like flies to shit.
Do you have proof that Africans ever lived in Asia?
This is asking too much of consumers apparently. They go just to be "PART OF THE CONVERSATION" these days.
I would welcome Saber into the pantheon of Disney Princesses.
Yeah because China doesn't put up with it like cuckold America.
Looks like wushu kino
>What do we want?
>A FILM WORTH PAYING FOR
We’re not mad that it’s being it’s own thing, we’re mad because these live action shitfests shouldn’t fucking exist in the first place
Yeah it looks like they're making it about her escaping an arranged marriage, instead of helping her dying father. That's more of a feminist-approved progressive message. Strong female is strong and stronger than males!
Who, the Bard? You better not be talking shit on based gurgi
Put it this way. It's not necessarily a tactic to punish the filmmakers for making crap. It's to save your own sanity from getting mad.
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I wish they would. I wanna see some fucking fire.
I mean they paired a fat black guy with an ugly chink in star wars TLJ
But he's literally a tan white guy.
"greek" isn't an ethnicity, not that i would expect any better for someone who just spams the word "black" in every post.
>"greek" isn't an ethnicity,
It's literally listed as one by the UN user.
It's a pretty well defined ethnic group you racist cockbite.
If this isn't going to be based off the animated movie but the original tale, would that mean it's not even Yea Forums related?
The Tale was a Verbal Comic.
I'm 100% okay with Mulan being remade into an action period piece. Give me that PG-13 Hero.
>"greek" isn't an ethnicity
You're not the most retarded user. i've ever replied too but you definitely make the top 20
This has always been the case, it's not new
So after this they still have:
>Snow White
>Sleeping Beauty
>Hercules
>Tarzan
>Lilo & Stitch
what's next for Disney after they run out of classic movies to remake?
Oh please. This is just like the Tim Burton Chocolate Factory, "oh, it's not a remake, it's based on the book" and then proceed to lift all of the visuals and beats from the Gene Wilder movie.
Hunchback
>what's next for Disney after they run out of classic movies to remake?
This is 100% wishful thinking, but maybe they start remaking movies that could actually be improved upon like Atlantis and Treasure Planet.
Lmao just kidding, get ready for live action Toy Story and Monsters Inc. Also you KNOW there are executives right now champing at the bit of live action Frozen.
Well it looks different at least, not just doing the same thing again but worse like Aladdin and Lion King. A serious take on the legend of Mulan has never really been done, and an old fashioned war movie with Disney money has potential for live action Dynasty Warriors type madness.
The comunist government tends to change their mind a lot. Till a couple of years ago, talking animals movies were banned. Babe the pig wasn’t aired in China because of that. They now allow it. I guess Disney doesn’t want to risk Shafu as a comedy of their culture or something which could ban it
looks cute
not sure how she's not a cute nigger like the ariel one but meh, I'm definitely downloading this via torrent
>what's next for Disney after they run out of classic movies to remake?
Remake them again.
In 20 years they will make cartoon adaptation of the live action movie.
Or turn them all into a cinematic universe.
The MCU.
The argument for sterilization is clear.
So you want it to be another shot for shot remake?
The Mongol walk around the wall. Another nomadic tribe got invited to invade China and walk right through the gate.
If they remade "The Emperor's New Groove" they'd probably do everything in their power to remove all elements of comedy and make it a drama or something.
No. She didn't want to be a wife. She only go matchmaking because that what she was expected to do by society. She didn't feel fit in with her social role.
Just like what they with Aladdin huh dipshit?
Yes.
You're an actual retard
You can't prove this.
They literally only went back to this because of the trend of female leads right now.
I'm a simple man
I just want to see battles, girls bathing with boys and reverse traps
They won't use Manco, think of the Japanese market.
You'd have to be a fag to have been wanting this.
To be fair, a ginger is just a nigger with some letters moved around
>Fighting without armor on the battlefield
For fuck's sake.
CAUSE WE COULD BE IMMORTALS
The only "poc" that exist are black people. Hollywood doesn't give a shit about Latinos, Native Americans, or Asians.
I guess I'll be watching the Chinese dub.
hell yeah
holy projection
>entire legend is about a woman fighting pretending to be a man
>she's fighting in a dress with her hair down and cleavage
>no mushu
>no captain
>no music
Looks like Disney just picked a whole bouqet of Oopsie Daisies
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If the OP stinks, just don't go (into the thread).
where is the diversity?
why isn´t Mulan white for example?
goal of a wall is make it easier to secure a border
its not going to repel invaders guarantee
Latinos are in movies and shows all the time.
The only ones who don't exist are the Native Americans.
No that's not what happened, traitors opened up the wall and let the xiong nu and mongols through.
They could maintain it just fine bonfires, helped show which specific portion was under attack but one can't defend from the enemy within and stupid policies that circumvent the role of the wall.