Is there any Yea Forums character that could defeat Giorno and GER?

It would just bring Hal's actions back to zero. There's no way to bullshit your way out of GER just fucking you back to before you even attempted or thought about making an action.

Yeah I don't think that works on GER, GER is the most bullshit stand in JoJo.

Willpower is even stronger

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What's with the increase of Jojo threads on Yea Forums lately

No, you don't understand.
There is nothing in the universe that can hurt GER.

I think that the part 5 anime just ended, just sage and report.

You'd need something like one of the Endless coming down to actually negate its effects. Or some other high tier cosmic. Anyone else gets shanked by hobos.

Yeah, not seeing it. I know you had your victory over Ben and you're still hyped, but GER is quite easily a Crisis-tier threat. Before Hal can even realize what he needs to do, he gets hobo-shanked.

Yeah, that's the thing, GER is a result of the desire of the user and being chosen by the arrow. It's not even something you fight against, it existing means the fight is already over. Powerlevel faggotry goes against the entire concept of it, fuck OP.

nope

Cute

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Can't beat yourself if you are your equal.

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Is this supposed to prvoe anything? Because again, the action gets zero'd and Hal gets shanked to death by hobos.

You wanna try again pooch?

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>lately
You don't remember years of Coco's Bizarre Adventure?

SPBP

I beleive Araki himself has gone on to state that it literally has no limits. He had to bullshit away Giorno out of an entire arc because if he was involved even slightly, the entire sequence of events would've ended before they even began.

In a setting full of absurdly bullshit absolute effects, GER is the most bullshit and absolute of them all.

Any character with toon force
Almost any cape character can bullshit their way out of it, I’d imagine the flash could literally run across the world a few times to negate its effects
Some high level entity realizing there’s a blonde bastard fucking with everyone by making them die repeatedly in different universes

When you think about it anime characters are surprisingly underpowered against western characters just because different people write for these characters and occasionally give them new superpowers on the fly or just have them do weird stuff for the sake of a funny joke

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>He had to bullshit away Giorno out of an entire arc
Are you talking about part 6?

>t. doesnt know anything about GER
The Flash gets zero'd and is promptly hobo-shanked and erased by the acausal eternal super entity. Same for the toon force characters and any entity that isn't literally Death of the Endless.

GER isn't something you can bullshit away, because it's ability to bullshit away everything else simply exceeds yours. If you've decided to try and fuck with Giorno in any way, you've lost before you even began.

I remember it but there's been an sharp intick of threads of OPs variety in the last week or so.

>Flash outspeeds it
>Green Lantern outwills it
>Superman outmuscles it
>Spider-Man outquips it
>Thor outgods it
>Captain Marvel outshines it

as user explained also there's a thread on Yea Forums atm with every single faggot still hammering their heads about it
>King Crimson
>If you would have done X+Y+Z+.... within the next 1-10 seconds, then you will have done X+Y+Z+ just as you would have, EXCEPT Diavolo can move around freely and interact with objects during the time as he wants.
>GER
>If you would have done X+Y+Z+... then you will have done none of those actions if GER doesn't like it.
youtube.com/watch?v=5gIzlpLSTtY

its literally Omega Sanction but without any rule restraining it

If Hal tries to go Parallax on GER, GER will NOPE Parallax and even Hal Jordan.

Nah it will return in July 28 with the 1 hour final special.
also araki was on AE today while they streamed the episode to the public
youtube.com/watch?v=Zj3WckGZz7U

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Stone Ocean, yeah. It's implied he would've been in Florida around the time of those events, but Araki specifically skirted around him and avoided any mention of him. For obvious reasons.

THE WORLD Over Heaven

Did someone call?

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How does he beat Droopy?

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All get zero'd and hobo-shanked. Trying to outpower GER in any way isn't the way to go. At all.

I think Araki has said that even ZA WALDO Over Heaven pales compared to GER and wouldn't be able to affect it. It's the single most bullshit thing ever conceived in JoJo.

It was pretty weird that the most famous son of Dio wasn't in the part that was full of them, but it makes sense why Araki didn't use him.

So is this a case of "x reality warper is weaker than y reality warper" cause reasons?

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Still mad.

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They talk about life and have some biscuits.

Jesus this stand is so freakin for broken

Speaking of, Death 13 could also easily deal with him, what with being an adult and all now.

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No, this is a case of "character is so utter bullshit that arguing about it is pointless".

No, this is a case of "Absolute Effect beats all non-absolute effects."

Too busy sucking Mistas dick at Disney World

The way you faggots are talking about this character reminds me of pic related
>can anyone beat anime character
>yes these Yea Forums characters can defeat him
>YOU JUST DONT GET IT DUDE NO ONE CAN DEFEAT ANIME CHARACTER
>ok then why did you make this thread
>DUDE LITERALLY NOTHING IN FICTION CAN DEFEAT ANIME CHARACTER IT IS THE BEST AND GREATEST EVER

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Sorry bub but if giorno punches bugs bunny or dare even punch that dog droopy, if it was funny they’d just walk back into screen where Giorno is with one of your faggy hobos and say some shit like “I think you two know each other?” And then the hobo would start shanking Giorno because it was funny

JoJo powerlevels don’t mean SHIT when it can all be written over for the sake of a joke

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I think you're forgetting the main aspect of toon-force

He literally could've punched him anywhere but his fists and ended DIO in an instant

Yes, Giorno would have literally made per 6 useless

This.

This isn't some East vs West bullshit, and no one in this thread that's saying that GER is unbeatable is defending it.
It's just fucking impossible to do.

Not sure if OP is posting anymore, but see and . And nobody ever said it can beat anything ever. It's just so bullshit that 99% of things cant beat it.

In my smelly opinion, I think that covers death battle threads really well.

No one is calling him the best though. Everyone knows it's rightfully bullshit and he's generally considered one of the worst characters the series has to offer.

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The only real thing that could beat GER would be a stand that could banish other stand users from reality itself.

So have we found a challenger?

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You also seem to be forgetting that Toon Force characters are entirely subject to their narrative effects. As a result, they can be felled by much less than GER. Simply for the sake of a joke.

>its impossible to do
We have Droopy fucking Dog and god damn Bugs Bunny ITT. What the fuck are you talking about?

Not even he

Because that is one of Star Platinum/The World's broken abilities which is precog.

It begs me to wonder HOW Morrison would Write GER + Giorno if Araki ever gives him permission to do a Comic with him.
GER literally counters the Empty Hand and may replace it with a Reality which Comics brings hope.

Made In Heaven

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Sure he can. He finds a way to vibrate his molecules so he can take GER for his own and keep it in the Fortress of Solitude.

Whats with the Jojo 15 yearold faggots spamming Yea Forums and Yea Forums?

Even then, that's not "beating" it. That's just jettisoning it out of existence. It's someone else's problem instead of yours.

The creator of Demonbane confirmed EGD isn't unstoppably infinite XXversal or whatever the fuck people ranked it into, ages ago. GER could probably fuck with it.

it's just a cheap way to get crossboard discussion going

butthurt discussion sustains a thread and keeps it from falling off a board so you can get interesting tidbits in

that said GER seems to require that it "knows" about whatever is trying to hurt its user, ie it's near-omnipotent but not entirely omniscient, so a cosmic entity could probably blink Giorno out of existence before it can respond

>SP and Za Warudo get Epitaph
Since fucking when?

Um no. Literally the reason Giorno didn’t show up is because he would have made part 6 useless

Phantom zone

He probably wouldn't even be able to see it. And given that it would know what he's about to do before he does it, it would just lulnope him and shank him out of existence via hobos.

>can a character that doesn't even have meta power be defeated

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Unless they’re the protagonist, like bugs, who gets a leg up because someone’s ducking with him
If Gio fucked with Droopy and droopy kept showing up Gio would lose his shit and run away from him before losing his mind because it’s funny

I have no idea why you insist that western characters can’t bullshit their way out of GER when Araki sucks at writing half the time to the point where he had to bullshit something for a fundamentally weak character like Gios stand to win anything in the end

Besides him

Sure he can, he just uses his superpowered vision and his time spent with alien monks to be able to identify the Stand

Not now, he fucking can't. He's been so thoroughly reduced from his original seating that it's obscene.

At best, they would be locked in a stalemate where no one can do anything against each other.

Anime adaptations do that.

What the fuck kind of 15 year old has a face that chiseled?

The kind that is drawn by a homosexual Japanese.

It just the phrase "lol nope" in stand form.

>so a cosmic entity could probably blink Giorno out of existence before it can respond
I honestly think that's the only way to do it.

It's JoJo. Don't question it.

Yikes.

YOu mean Jonathan

Gay Pedophile Priest is Part 6

A homosexual Japanese vampire, don't forget that.

Like user said, it’s “nope” the stand

Unless defeating GER is the funnier joke.

>speeds up time away from GER reach
>resets universe and then kills Giorno before ever having GER

Heh, nothing personnel giogio.....

It pretty much is. It's speed is canonically "-", as it's completely acausal. You NEED to be on the level of power capable of simply blinking things away before they can respond to deal with it.

Sounds like your standard Japanese comic to me.

The World Over Heaven beat GER though.

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>lulnope
>gets shanked by hobos
What a beautiful duwang.

An overpowered anime character beating someone in a battle isn’t too funny, but a funny cartoon animal trouncing said anime character it is.

Im still mad about the way the climax was handled.

This.

The episode with GER showing up came out.

And that was some fucking world-ending bullshit, and that's saying something.

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>giorno uses GER on bugs
>bugs becomes a sketch
Fund it

Isn't it a rule that only Stand Users can see Stands? Maybe if Supes had access to some high-tier magic then he could see it. Go to one it would matter.

You have to realize the narrative is that the selected toon force characters cannot lose if instigated. Any use of the word "defeat" or "death battle" involves instigation and hence toon force wins. The only way they would lose is if it's a well-meaning individual battling for something nice (like their love), they instigated first (which they can't do) or if they are battling another toon force character, which in most cases will lead to a truce anyway

He obviously uses his Stand vision, or gets assistance from the Stand he’s had since he was just a young Superboy, who happens to look like Jor-El

>bugs becomes a sketch
Uh-huh...

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Superman has a Stand. We and everyone else can't see it cause we're not stand users

This is a 17 year old btw

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>Yea Forums learned to ignore MCU fags shitposting at every thread
>shill MCU fags tries to derail every single Yea Forums thread, even steven threads to KEEP thhe fucking MCU threads afloat
>gets anal that JJBA threads ended up better than the Mousefaggotry and shilling shit comics like SJW punisher.
like pottery

if Supes ever develops as Stand it will be [D E P E C H E MODE]

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>superman encounters the stand creating meteor in space
>gets a stand
What does it do?

Superman's stand is the Thought Robot

>jotaro quite literally carries everyone to victory
Couldnt make this shit up if you tried.

For Supe to get a stand, I'd imagine it be some goofy bullshit non-combat stand. Given that Supes is already a wide power set, he doesn't need a close range stand like Star Platinum, Crazy diamond, GER, ect. Maybe something along the lines of forcing the enemy to copy Supes movements.

Though he's an alien and we don't really know if the arrows work on aliens.

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Jimmy Olsen.

Yes World Over Heaven has reality warping powers, BUT they require things to be punched to warp them. If GER hadn't fist bumped WOH and punched him anywhere else then GER would have won.

And this is a 13 year old boy.

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Supes is his own Stand Killer Queen

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>punched him anywhere else
That goes both ways. All you're saying is that reality warpers can beat him and he can't stop everything.

Mystic Eyes of Death Perception can "kill" the concept of Gold Experience Requiem

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And this is a pure, intelligent woman.

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>can
But does it?

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Don't open that can of worms in a JoJo thread.

Ben 10, his omnitrix has a special function, if his life is in mortal danger he will become whatever alien in the universe capable of making him survive the problem he is facing. For example he survived the Big Bang and used its energy to destroy his time bender enemy trapping him on a time loop where he always looses.

youtube.com/watch?v=h5sxa23Pxyo

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Silver Age Flash creates a time duplicate to distract GER while he transports it to the future

Gold Experience requiem is the equivalent of Nu uh I have an anti everything shield.

Bugs vs Droopy would go like this: youtu.be/D1xqrdtJs8w

youtu.be/epl9_iw8JaI?t=34

Denied. Both get shanked by hobos.

How do DC or Marvel handle her? Could anyone deal with her once she has PtV going?

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>ehhhm whats all the hubbub, bub?
God I fucking love Bugs so damn much.

>not posting a page from the manga
He looks even more ridiculously buff there.

Nah, Flash is too fast,

Shiki can kill the exercise of GER's power so she could win against him. Then again he might catch her unawares or something. For them it's a real fight since both of their powers can bend certain aspects of reality.

GER gives no shits about how fast you are.

GER is acausal. By the time Shiki conceives to try and cut his concept, she's already been zero'd and shanked. Only Void Shiki stands an actual chance.

This is Silver Age fast, totally different story, moving faster than instantaneous movement, so that he’s already done it

GER can reset it's opponents willpower to 0

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Yep, but Hal dials it back to 11

Except it's not instantaneous movement for GER. It's just "lulno." You can hardly perceive the change before suddenly all your actions have been rendered straight to zero. It doesn't matter how fast you can go because you'll always be set back to a period before you even thought about moving in any form.

That's just a neat little extension to its overall abilities.

and GER once again resets it to 0. It is never ending

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[ZA WARUDO] Act 4 Over Heaven Requiem + Love Train

Until Hal’s will becomes too strong to reset
Silver Age, he goes faster than that

Will I ever not find a character naming their ability out loud painful to read? Why do the Japanese insist on this trope? It is plum awful.

And it goes right back to 0. Hal has it dial it back up again, and when he does, it goes back to 0. Unceasingly. Or until GER gets bored and tosses him into a true deathloop.

GER has no limits on it. Trying to imply it does fails to understand what it actually is. It's not something you can overcome. It's something you never EVER come against, and pray that you haven't done anything to offend it. Even destroying all of time can do nothing against its effects.

Neither does Hal

>true deathloop
Who the fuck writes this schlock? Worse still who reads it?

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It makes sense for stands, since they are almost like characters. It is kind of dumb when they have to shout out "GORUDO EKUSUPERIENSU" whenever they use it

Which is why it will be an eternal stalemate

What does she do?

He actually does. Saying that Hal doesn't have limits is rather dumb because he's fallen and failed before. Not for long mayhaps, but his will does have a limit.

And he still beats GER

Do you even know where you are? Your average capeshit has dumber concepts than a deathloop.

>arguing with a supesfag
>not even asking him which supes he is talking about
Might as well be feeding a troll dude. Golden age supes would trash God let alone some jap psh nothin personel.

>its stupid but its not as stupid as stupidstupid

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Not even slightly. He just gets brought back to 0 without end. Over and over and over.

It's a stalemate at best, assuming GER is feeling chummy that day.

Nope, MUH WILL beats it

>Do you even know where you are?

Here you go

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>no u

Sticks you in a time loop and reverses all damage that you've tried to hit Giorno with.

Contessa by herself cannot do anything. It's the multidimensional supercomputer space alien in her brain that's a pain to beat.
If you're fighting her, she's already formed a simulation where you've lost and already beaten you. Then she just reenacts that perfectly.

It's like trying to fight Agent Smith in the magic when he has full control of it.

I mean, that's literally how GER works.

It's also how BAD WRITING shitty capeshit works
No use arguing with it

And that’s how Will works, just do it

Doesn't exactly help much against something that can decide your willpower is just "nope" at any point it wants to. And can do it again infinitely.

It sure does when you decide to answer “yep” to that nope

Thats him all grown up, it doesn't count.

But that's the paradox, user. Will can overcome the infinite "no you didn't" with an equal and opposite "yes I did". It's the unstoppable force and the immovable object.

And then that nope happens again before the "yep" ever comes. And again and again and again and again and again and again and again.

Infinite =/= to zero, this makes no sense.
0 death should mean he didn't kill him.

And that “yep” decides to “Yep” anyway. Over and over and over and so on. Because it wants to

Can we get art of this

GER by nature is a fucking paradox. Trying to counter it with another is meaningless.

Hal doesn't have infinite willpower at all times. And he certainly doesn't have any counter to his actions getting reset to nothing before he can even conceive of pulling them off. At best, he gets into a stalemate. There's no victory to be had here.

I really don't mean to shit talk fans here but this shit right here of, "yes huh" and "nu uh" sounds similar to death battle arguments and threads.

It's more like King Crimson take x + y = z and takes away the x + y making it seem like it didn't happen and the only one who knows it did is the user while GER make the x + y the only thing that exists for eternity.

Victory might seem impossible but Hal does that in every major fight, because stuff like that is just a word and that stalemate will break because he wills it

And then we snap right back to the stalemate because GER forever lulnopes his attempts until he either gives in and dies for eternity, or he stops trying to fuck with it and Giorno.

Guess Hal just does it until GER gives up.

And GER does it until Hal gives up. They're stuck in a deadlock.

Hal doesn’t know how to give up

probably some kind of shield that can protect someone from dyeing, his whole life work is protecting the weak after all.

well he'll be trapped in a loop forever then.

Not unless GER gives up.

Why the fuck is this thread still up, mod just deleted like 5 threads but this.

i can imagine Supes or any superstrong man, would be able to take on GER.

as i understand it, his 'REQUIEM' is the ability to nullify reality altering effects like KC's timeskip in order to cripple opponents that rely on said effects.

but, what can you nullify when what you got is faster than human speed and strenght able to crush mountains with a couple punches? unless its confirmed GER can nullify physical inmediate damage, which we dont know, i think as long as your super speed AND super strenght are your own (aka. are AN ABSOLUTE TRUTH OF THE WORLD THAT CANNOT BE ALTERED), GER couldnt be able to nullify it.

Cool arrow dude, mind if I "borrow it"?

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>Anyone capable of performing infinite attacks or attacks that never end, like Johnny Joestar or Darkseid
>Reality Warpers
>Beings who exist outside of time or causality
>Beings capable of travelling back in time and killing Giorno before he gets the arrow

GER is probably the most absurdly wanked being in fiction and the perfect example of the no limits fallacy. Plus people usually forget its offensive power is just that of a really strong punch ghost, put GER against your average cape brick and it would end in a stalemate, it cannot cause infinite death if its punches can't do squat to its opponents
Made in Heaven and D4C Love Train are more powerful anyways

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I'll love to see GER vs Love Train,
>With my reverse Jesus powers you have killed everyone but me Giorno.

Dude it's a stand that creates infinite loops, what would possibly make him give up.

Maybe he gets bored as said before

this, and hell, you dont need reality warpers, in fact, 'REQUIEM' can nullify reality warping, which is what King Crimson does.

all you need to fight GER is super strength, superspeed to be able to react and act before any attack, and super stamina to be able to resist its punches without dying. as long as said abilities are born with and not acquired thru items or magic (aka: a false truth), im sure GER wouldnt be able to do jack squat.

It would be a stalemate, GER can reverse any damage done to its user but at the same time its offensive capabilities are those of a strong punchghost while nothing short of infinite reality shattering gravitational power can get through Love train. Plus love train can distort reality on a continental scale and it still has all of D4C's op abilities

>in fact, 'REQUIEM' can nullify reality warping, which is what King Crimson does.
You mean the thing whose "all time but mine is erased" got utterly no-sold instantly by GER? Bitch, please

okay cool but is there a Yea Forums character who could figure out who shot Johnny?

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It's worded strange in that I believe. I think it can be better described as "you will never reach any ending or conclusion". GER kills you, but you will never arrive at death. You keep being killed but never dying.

Wheels and the Legman

thats exactly what i said.

when you think about it, KC's timeskip is just one form of reality warping, Diavolo can alter reality and events thru KC's in order to favor him. as long as said events happen in that 10 sec lapse.

GER's motto is 'your actions are indeed A truth of the world, but as long as im here you will NEVER reach that truth, regardless of your power.' aka: nullifying reality warping.

and what does a guy like supérman do? he is not altering anything with his power, he just runs fast, tanks nukes and punches hard, thats all.

Those are different scales of reality warping. King Crimson can become free from predestination and immune to all harm for only 10 seconds. But characters like, say, Jim Jaspers or Alien X can alter reality on a more fundamental scale. They could turn requiem on its user, change the way the arrow works, change history so that Giorno dies in his crib, or simply just "no u" harder, since they have the feats to back it up. Im surprised at how for so long peple have taken this really basic feat of mid reality warping as absolute proof that Giorno could beat anyone in the multiverse and beyond.

the thing is that we know that he can nullify reality warping, or at least any sudden even altering that can give an opponent an advantage in fight, because GER just said so:

'you will NEVER reach that truth'

for alien X, creaating an reality where GER kills giorno might be a truth for him, but GER wont allow said truth to be realized, only the TRUE truth where he cant do shit.

>and what does a guy like supérman do? he is not altering anything with his power, he just runs fast, tanks nukes and punches hard, thats all.
It can nullify actions as well. Like say, Giorno getting his head smashed to mulch.

that wasn't too hard

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Superman can break free, he did so with Hypertime and that Infinite Planet

do we know if thats true?

GER nullified Diavolo's attack because his outcome of killing Giorno was predicted by King crimson. unless its shown that Diavolo tried to punch Giorno/GER without activating KC or epitaph and STILL didnt make any effect, then i dont buy it.

but he won't

And Hal will continue. Maybe Giorno gets bored, no info on that guy tbqh

giorno wont get bored retard

It's not about breaking free. It's more trying to find a way around GER's absolute effect.

Prior to GER becoming fully realized, Diavolo has Crimson punch him full force in the skull, which would've shattered his entire skull under normal circumstances. The implication is GER negated the entire action due to its nature.

And Hal won’t give up. But he’ll break that stalemate

Remember when this guy was the LMAC protagonist and Spider-Ham was the stand in for GER?

Good times.

how can hal break the stalement if neither of them will give up? it's infinite

OOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooohhh..... yeah....

True enough. He's basically boredom personified.

Giorno will die of old age
Hal won't

He wills harder

Universe resets in part 6, pucci wins, jotaro dies.
Animefags killed jojo

*destroys your universe* nothing personeel, kid

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aren't they both human though? They both can die to old age
GER resets his shit to 0.

GER's power is literally "no u" you can't beat a literal "no u" power up

the ring can keep you young
Hal wins the long game

With willpower you can because you just say “yes”

GER resets his age to 0 and kills him
GER's power is literally infinite "no u"'s keywoard on infinite

>because GER just said so

When has "he said so" ever been a trustworthy measure of a character's power, ever. This is why I can't stand GER wank, it's based entirely on conjecture instead of what it has actually been shown to do. Reality warping changes the way the universe works, a strong warper could just change GER's fundamental nature so that it never had the power of keeping beings from reaching the truth

And Hal’s just gonna keep on saying yes.

and GER is gonna keep saying no, it's a stalemate at the end of it all, nobody wins and nobody loses

Until Hal wills it

He looks like goomba from smb movie rolf.

user the guy is messing with you
he's probably a Ben10fag that's still salty about the DB and is falseflagging as a HEATfag

Believe it or not, no.

gold experience requiem has no stated weakness.
it literally erases the effect of whatever is threatening giorno. Thats ho bullshit it is.
so ben will be stuck in a loop of attacking him, and thats even if hes already an alien at the beginning of the fight
if regular ben attempted to transform he'll be stuck in the transformation process infinitely by GER

so GER is a no limit fallacy thing

>gold experience requiem has no stated weakness.
Because it was around for like 5 seconds. There was no time for a weakness to be brought up. It's just a no limits fallacy.

the ability is to disable anything.
sure it was around for 5 seconds but we cant make up weaknesses for it either. going by what we've seen in part 5 he was able to undo even the time abilities of Diavolo.
i see where youre coming from with the no limit fallacy but thats because Araki is a weird writer , and lets be honest GER was a semi deus ex machina.
but a=where it stands now there is nothing with the omnitrix that can truly hard counter GER

it's just lazy writing from the worst Jojo part

I knew GER would mindfuck some people when it happened.
"How does KC work" used to be a meme by people who hadn't read part 5 and got to GER.

Sorry random user but this gay priest are ready done it

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jesse custer

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>lazy writing
right
>worst jojo part
wrong. not the best but not the worst
shitty writing or not abilities are abilites

it had the least interesting abilities
well actually part 6 could compete but it has Pucci

Hal definitely has the most autistic fanboys lol

>the ability is to disable anything.
Which doesn't work against characters who can't have their abilities disabled like Dark Schneider

It just death loops him.

Based and Dio pilled

This is just Darwin

You can't touch him.

ya defiantly a falseflagging benfag

Goku.
>Willingly gets stuck in an infinite death loop.
>Abuses his Saiyan Near-Death Gains.
>Becomes conception tier.
Zenkai Boosts.

Best thing Yea Forums ever made.

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zenkai boosts stop working after a while

The Fury

Tell that to Cell and Goku Black.

Gappy doesn't even use that ability of soft & wet any more

yes, you just saw GER for the first time and think he's the coolest. Read the manga, anime fag

Cell only got 1 zenkai boost
Super is just baldy written

Zenkai Boosts work like diminished returns.
At first the power up is huge but eventually the power up is so small it's basically useless

Zenkai Boost only even exists to close a plot hole of Vegeta not being strong as he needed to be to move the Namek arc forward.

>Vegeta needs to be at X powerlevel to move story forward
>But wait he was beaten by Goku and hasn't had time to do anything since then
>"lol being almost killed made me stronger"

GER need to kill you to make you enter in a death loop? If the answer is yes you just need to make him fight to anyone that can tank him enough time until the arrow just come off

It's done because manga is a written format and for kids it's better to actually have some heads up of whats happening rather than having moves just pop out,

>That shitty overused music
This was worse than Dio's battle.

lel

Unless is cosmic...no

It's the equivalent of flexing on a motherfucker. You gotta let them know that your power level is more maximum than theirs.

You lost OP

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Scarlet witch. Pucchi proved GER can be easily reality warped away. Case closed

I think a more important question is if King Crimson can stop the Omega Beam coming towards him?

>gold experience requiem has no stated weakness.
Pretty sure its weakness is that is a short range stand.

well, sure, but in order to attack him you would have to get within his range - at which point he can just undo whatever actions you take. there’s no way to defeat him

They beat chariot requiem, whose power was making everyone in the planet into chronenbergs and people who tried attacking him attack themselves, with some made up bullshit about shadows and punching THE SUN. Pretty sure you can write bullshit like that for every stand ever.

Not with all alternative timelines and resets at once

Doctor Strange, The Flash, Superman, Green Lantern, Supergirl, Thor, Sentry, list goes on

>no u

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>Confirmed ages ago
>With no source
>A machine god that literally killed the universe save for a small fragment

lol get fucked jobro

>, a strong warper could just change GER's fundamental nature so that it never had the power of keeping beings from reaching the truth
This. He's nigh omnipotent, but not omnipotent.

>Even then, that's not "beating" it. That's just jettisoning it out of existence. It's someone else's problem instead of yours.
BFR can be considered a win.

He can shoot beams of light as well. I'm pretty sure.

seems like you forgot to Have Sex before you posted

For all we know GER ability is just a stronger version of that punch from the early episodes where your mind moves but your body remains still.

Also has anyone noticed that GER is muda made stand? I makes anything you do against Giorno pointless.

like father, like son.
youtube.com/watch?v=h873HZd99Xw

Literally Alien X, and I'm not a Benfag or Kuro.
Alien X will just make a new universe where it doesn't work

and GER will NOPE it
Again, GER is Omega Sanction on CRACK

Notes:
Golden Experience Requiem needs to be summoned in order to operate. He can’t just trigger his powers while inside GioGio.

The arrow gives the stand the ability to manipulate souls. Golden Experience Requiem can reset Stands because they are part of the user’s soul. It wouldn’t be able to cancel powers that are not attached to the soul.

Golden Experience Requiem doesn’t have the power to “send you into a time loop”, it lacks the power to kill. Because it cannot kill, anyone it does kill causes a paradox which is what ends up being represented as a time loop.

>anyone it does kill causes a paradox which is what ends up being represented as a time loop.
What if you can't die/are immortal?

Then you don’t get time looped.

>stand that rewrites reality
>incapable of beating GER

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Giorno got shot and put into a coma by a non-stand using sniper and nearly got his shit kicked in by a boxing stand in the light novels.

GER doesn't work against surprise attacks or stubborn willpower. And every single superhero has a ton of willpower. Just try and point to a story where one hero went "welp, I'm tired. I give up."

...

What part of remake the Universe so it doesn't work you don't get.

People are too hyped to get how limited Golden Experience Requiem is.

Lol nope

He's already survived one universe remake.

>all these fags

GER cannot be beaten by brute force, it will reset that shit to zero. Toonforce characters might stand a chance but only if it’s funny, assuming GER won’t set the concept of funny to zero.

GER’s just that horseshit.

user he got screwed over in the light novel when he didn’t have GER

>Arrow is basically a wish-fulfillment McGuffin for your Stand
>Giorno wanted GE to be powerful enough to beat one of the most OP stands in JoJo
>Fags are actually shocked when GER is fucking broken as all shit

The arrow grants soul manipulation with limits based on personality. You are misunderstanding everything at the base level.

Yeah. People still think he can be beaten by brute force when that’s straight up impossible. It’s not like he’s invincible either, since stuff like the writer from animal man or the living tribunal could beat him anyway.

Just because the powers it gives are based around soul manipulation, doesn't mean it doesn't grant a power that will solve whatever problem you have. Pol wanted to keep the arrow from Diavolo, so that want manifested itself in SCR's soul swap power, as it saw that was the best way to keep the arrow from Diavolo. It was only because Pol lacked the strength to control SCR that it began going berserk and turning everyone into chronenburgs

All Requiem Stands are independent, tho. Chariot was just a dick.

They're independent, yes, but the user still needs to have the resolve to handle whatever powers they have. Sort of like how no one could use SP's Stand Disk in Part 6, because he was that powerful of a Stand. The difference being the arrow will grant anyone a power boost, regardless if they can handle it or not

EGD got deconfirmed for ever being completely and utterly omnipotent like some fans were saying. Same for Vortex Blaster.

Only Toon Force or Omniprescent Gods

Droopy would get reset and keep appearing

Superman broke out of Hypertime and the Infinite Planet, brute force might just be the answer to beat GER

Jojo is the most intelligent shounen ever written. Can you name a better shounen than this? The answer is no, you can't. The fight scenes are so much better than any other shounen fights. These fight scenes are written with brain and intelligence. They're very original fight scenes and don't follow a traditional fight scene formula in any way. Dragon Ball can go fuck itself. Also, the JoJo fanbase are some of the nicest and most intelligent people you will meet on the internet. We just want to have fun and share our fun little memes. I want to marry Araki, but that's muda for me unfortunately. Also, I like gay guys.

Made in heaven ended the universe like 10 times over goofy faggot

>things that canonically didn't happen

Here is my stand

pages.drexel.edu/~dft29/Stand_Generator/Stand-Generation-Overdrive.html
Stand Name: All of the Lights

Stand Ability: [Simultaneous Timing](powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Simultaneous_Timing)

Power - D

Speed - A

Range - A

Durability - B

Precision - E

Potential - D

Description: The power to start and end different actions and thoughts at the same time. The user can move, attack, act and even think without interruption, meaning that when they act, think or move, they act and move instantly, and when they end a movement, thought or action, they start another action instantaneously at the same time the previous action, thought or movement ended. This allows good flow of movement, and makes it hard for others to tell if the user has stopped or paused when acting...

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Saying the best/most intelligent shounen is like saying the most intelligent Mcdonald's worker

Stand Name: Sunshine of the Stars

Stand Ability: [Good Lordship](powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Good_Lordship)

Power - A

Speed - A

Range - E

Durability - C

Precision - B

Potential - E

Description: Good Lordship Eunomia (Greek Mythology) goddess of good order. Power/Ability to: have limitless control over good. The ability to have absolute control over good and all that's good. Opposite to Evil Lordship. Contents[show] Also Called Lord/Ruler of Good Capabilities User has absolute control over good, and thus over all that's good, allowing them to have limitless control over everything and everyone that is good, and as well manipulate all things related to good. Applications All Good...
What the fuck does this let me do?

That looks like a nightmare to animate.

The game is entirely non-canon to begin with. What's your point?

Tell that to pucci

I'd chin that pretty boy out with a right hook before he could even summon his persona

>lulnope

Talking with you feels like arguing with a third grader during recess.

That in part 6 pucci speeds up time and ger does nothing about it?

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>Reset the concept of funny to zero

Again, where do you even get this from. GER can reset human actions and willpower to zero, what makes you think it can affect universal abstract concepts. Its as if saying sex pistols can defeat final crisis Darkseid by shooting the concept of evil

I actually think Droopy is like GER personified, so it would end pretty much in a stalement.

Now, though, if something like Dio Over Heaven managed to defeat GER, then who the fuck knows.

Given how it was one of the ONLY things Made In Heaven couldn't do shit to, I'm going to say universe-fuckery is fair game.

Kira wanted to evade Star Platinum's The World and to continue being incognito, hence why he developed Bites the Dust.

He never expected Hayato to learn how to see Stands.

Funny how this thread is comfier than the MCU bait garbage that the paid mouseshills are spamming this week with almost zero posts.

How, exactly? Increasing the quantity of brute force won't do anything.

When you’re strong enough to break out of infinity, it does

How does that feat prove your point? H

He broke out of infinity once, he can break out of of the infinite loop and kick ass

well u better be ready for more when they dub part 5 fucboi

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they can always make stairway to heaven CGI.

Why would you assume his strength would still be there rather than reversed to zero beforehand?

Powerful strength, plus superspeed equals kicking ass

Plus isn't his existence protected by the source? I think it'd be willing to help Superman defeat an opponent that can potentially trap him in an eternal loop.

Til Elijah Wood ends up voicing Giorno because they look alike

The quantity of his strength does not matter. Either you're a shitpoter or a delusional fanboy to think otherwise.

It does matter when he’s broken out of infinity using his strength

why would it? That's one individual superman in a multiverse.

No, it doesn't. It's not infinite, otherwise he could've beat people like Orion and Darksied a long time ago.

Stand Name: Cowboys from Hell

Stand Ability: [Energy Transmutation](powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Energy_Transmutation)

Power - B

Speed - B

Range - A

Durability - B

Precision - D

Potential - E

Description: The power to transform matter into energy. Sub-power of Energy Manipulation and Transmutation. Variation of Elemental Transmutation. The user can transform matter and objects, including living beings, into energy.

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Nope, he can do it. He broke out of Mr Mxyzptlk’s Infinite Planet for Jon

>why would it? That's one individual superman in a multiverse.
That's something his enemies would like to know. The time trapper tried to erase him multiple times, but all attempts failed. And I think Dr.manhattan is trying to get to the bottom of this as well.

user, stop shitposting. He has been defeated, proving his strength, while vast, is finite. Ger supasses quanity. This isn't up to debate.

Okay, you got me there. But that would still mean superman need help to beat GER, which by extension means he cannot beat it alone.

user, learn to cope, Superman’s just gonna break out of the infinite loop

Green Lantern could outwill an alien god and no one would complain about it.

user, you're projecting. You haven't argued against anything I said.

Sure I have. I’ve mentioned how Superman’s broken out of infinity, and there’s not real reason he can’t break out of the infinite loop, you just keep saying he can’t because he doesn’t do it all the time

And he will develop a stand that deflects any harm to him, or his family on the Concept scale, trully making him Invulnerable.
The thing is, which name or band would be named his stand?

Til is Can you feel it by Jackson 5

But I've said that there's no reason why his strength couldn't be nullified beforehand. Your point is moot.

Because Superman’s too strong, duh.

The quanitity of his strength doesn't matter. Do you have any proof saying otherwise?

Uh, he’s broken out of infinity using strength alone, that’s pretty damn strong

I've already said that quanity, no matter how large, does not matter. GER does not have that restriction.

And I’ve said the quantity is still too much

>GER is the most bullshit stand in JoJo.
Made in Heaven can kill Giorno, so long as it isn't actively attempting to do so.
Tusk act 4 can canonically intentionally ignore GER and kill Giorno.

Since this thread is going well and taking out user's Stand Generator link + pic
Which characters in DC or Marvel would be blessed with Stand powers?

i gave it a shot and it fits with him perfectly

pages.drexel.edu/~dft29/Stand_Generator/Stand-Generation-Overdrive.html
User: Alexander Joseph "Lex" Luthor
Stand Name: Burning Heart
Stand Ability: [Stardust Manipulation](powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Stardust_Manipulation)
Power - C
Speed - E
Range - C
Durability - B
Precision - B
Potential - B
Description: The ability to manipulate remnants of cosmic substances. Sub-power of Astronomical Object Manipulation. Variation of Dust Manipulation. The user can create, shape and manipulate stardust, mineral grains and particles of cosmic substances originating from or embody remnants of dead stars, nebula, and meteorites.

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user, if you still think that, I presume you're shitposting. Please, do something better in your life than attention whoring and a cheap sense of satisfaction you'll feel after getting the last word in on this conversation.

Look, Superman just wins, he’s that strong, and stop shitposting with your GER at this point

Jorge Joestar is inmensely non canon

>tfw you're the only person alive who doesn't give a shit about jojos

jojo's bizarre adventure has become the basic bitch version of anime

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>GER does not have that restriction
He does though. Araki himself confirmed that GER can't do shit against anything that would be considered infinite, when asked about GER vs Tusk ACT4.

Giorno is part vampire so it's safe to say that he'd love longer than a normal human.

HEATfags are the new DBZfags

Couldn't Star Platinum just ambush him during a time stop, shank him before he used his Stand power, and he'd lose? Not like you can lol nope while frozen in time and ambushed from frozen time

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High level reality warmers should be able to stop GER, if Eyes of Heaven is anything to go by. We never see GER having any limits in Part 5, but that doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't have any.
With that said, it is pure speculation since we have no way (outside of a non-canon video game) of determining the actual extent of GER's ability.

If you can lolnope in skipped time, I'd say he'd be able to do it in stopped time.

I swear to god if they don't have "What a Wonderful World" playing during the ending of Stone Ocean I'm going to firebomb dp's offices.

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Someone at bandai including araki must had loved the Ultimate Warrior

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How can you defeat something by turning it to 0 if it already IS 0?

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if morrison or any writer is lurking this thread.
they may explain that.

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Isn't Warner and by an Extent DC, the owners of JJBA outside Japan due to Distribution and etc?

also Rohan's Spinoff canonical stuff being considered Graphic Novels?

I'd read a Batman manga made by Araki.

Multiply 0 by 0 to get 1. Suddenly you have a natural number value and GER is vulnerable.
All you need is Valentine or someone to manifest another GER from another universe and get one to attack the other.

He literally reversed time to restore erased time.
It is a broken stand.

Considering it has been around for nearly 30+ years and is finally becoming mainstream. I am happy about that.

*johnny test sound effect

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Reminder that Skeletor's even higher than that at at least High 2-A, maybe even higher.
Get fucked DC/Marvelfags, Skeletor is beyond all.

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Araki will have a field day if DC lends him an Adult Batman Story after jojolion
>youtube.com/watch?v=r2alNYImuM0
Golden wind itself is full og Gotham City Crooks and batman develops a Stand Named Purple Rain/Prince in homage to 89 movie

DC also owns for an extent the rights for He-Man

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I don't know about Yea Forums but Jotaro and Star Platinum Over Heaven and Dio and The World Over Heaven beat them

>Purple Rain
>Not「BAT OUT OF HELL」

TOAA is literally the editor's board and the EIC, he (they?) can do anything

Starlin nerfed TOAA hard recently.

>Joker is Partyman itself due to the lyrics and the flamboyant madness of Prince at his peak.
>youtube.com/watch?v=4zqaTU5bGx8

Yea Forums and Yea Forums needs to meme and monkeypaw this into reality, the possibilites are insane, also its the best way to DP to reedeem themselves towards Batman Ninja.

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Johnny Thunder

At first it's Partyman, then it evolves into「MADWORLD」

>A stand that drives everyone insane if they're close enough in proximity
That's actually really fucking dangerous.

>Joker's attacks will be a Wall of chaingun Crowbar attacks while he laughs insanely, His hands are crowbar gloves

Meanwhile Flex Mentallo would have「CARTOON HEROES!」

All it does is it makes the [panel] of a comic he's in appear as part of future [panels].

>「CARTOON HEROES!」
HOLY FUCKING MOTHER OF REFERENCES Batman!

INDEED! Just listen to the lyrics!
youtube.com/watch?v=9ks-6CqqvUs

My brother bought the Aqua interactive CD once, we all thought that it was inspired on Archimedean Dynasty which is a great game along with the underrated sequels.

Based and Halpilled

Post your favorite stand designs.

Go.

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Why is this thread still up

Mods don't give a damn about Yea Forums threads anymore.

Holy fuck they deleted my post from yesterday calling them on their bullshit. I am seriously mad, is there any way I can contact hiro or some shit? Things gotts change.

>is there any way I can contact hiro or some shit?
Don't. It's not worthy. I would like that Yea Forums was more like Yea Forums in the sense that Yea Forums don't allow stealth crossovers threads but mods just don't give a shit.

I imagine Joker would be a recurring antagonist while the actual bad guy would be Ra's al Ghul with his stand「BLACKSTAR」because he's essentially DIO.

But something needs to fucking change

>All you're saying is that reality warpers can beat him and he can't stop everything.
Does a universe reset count as reality warping? He survived that.

based as fuck taste, definitely favorite stand of part 8

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Giorno uses GER to avoid becoming a metal statue, meaning that his own stands keeps him from leaving the tower.

Seconding

Are you having a stroke?

Yeah, but Flash wins because Speed Force

Are you?

Speed again means nothing to GER. If you want to beat it, you need to go beyond any kind of movement.

And Flash will. Via Speed Force

>He doesn't know
Oh sweet child.

You mean the same guy who got fucked due to Still Force shit negating his movement? Spare me.

Yeah, Barry really should take pity on the guy. Just not a fair fight

Oh, you're just a falseflagging HEATfag. Nevermind then.

>Seething that his anime BS is nothing compared to capeshit

>seething because his capeshit can't win everything

I don't know why people pretend Flash or Hal Jordan can beat GER when he's ''bullshit: the character'' for a reason. You want to defeat him then put him against Prime or One Million.

>t. can’t accept GER is squat against comics and cartoons

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What about defense? Yeah, we found the answer guise

>death in a flash suit
How did they get away with something so goofy

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Yeah, how?

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They’ve done goofier

what the fuck are the mods doing. ban all this weebshit from this board

>What does he do?

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You've already been proven wrong by Araki himself. Why do you keep pushing this?

Where did Araki say that?

Hal lol nopes this plot device.

No, because Jotaro would have to first will himself into taking action against Giorno. That willpower would then be nullified. Any action you take must be initiated at some point, and then it immediately gets canceled.

GER can be killed by fucktons of things, it's just retarded to go "what would beat it in a fight?". You cannot fight GER. The question is already pointless. The moment you conceive of fighting Giorno, that conception is negated. You literally just stand there doing nothing instead of trying to fight him.

GER can easily be killed by accident. Nuke New York and Giorno happens to be there? Dead. You're some weird paranoid guy who sets up minefields and traps everywhere he goes? Giorno steps on a land mine and dies. You're on a battlefield and you're swinging your sword around and the backswing accidentally clips Giorno across the jugular? Well he probably heals but the point is GER won't stop you. He can only stop the intention to take action against Giorno. He can't stop anything that isn't specifically directed towards Giorno. If Diavolo had, truly and honestly, decided to run away and not fight Giorno, GER wouldn't be able to prevent that action. GER also doesn't do anything when it isn't summoned, which means that you can just kill Giorno when he's sleeping or something, which is trivially easy for a lot of Yea Forums characters. Like, here's how easy it is to beat GER in a fight. You encounter Giorno. He has GER summoned. You look at GER and go "oh fuck it's GER I'm outta here". You run. At some point Giorno has to unsummon GER. At some point when GER is unsummoned or when you're out of range of its effect, you go "wait a second I'll just kill Giorno when GER isn't summoned" (this intention would get negated if you were affected by GER, so there's a bit of an extra step). You use whatever fucking superpower you want to kill him. Flash? Superman? Sure.

The way to beat GER is literally just to give up on fighting GER and wait.

>The way to beat GER is literally just to give up on fighting GER and wait
This is so simple yet so smart. No wonder powerlevelfags and versus retards never figured out how to defeat GER.

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What if I try to hurt GER instead of Giorno?

Plus GER, while strong for a stand, doesn't nearly pack enough punch to even dent superman, green lantern or anyone on that level. The fight ends on a stalemate and then Giorno dies of old age

>Green Lantern
As much as I like Hal, Kyle and Guy, I don't think they are on GER level. He is too much bullshit for them.

Hal once took a nuke point blank. Can GER hot that hard?

They've taken blows from Superboy prime and Hank Henshaw, GER's best feat is breaking a pillar and trashing King Crimson, which has an E in durability. It ends in a stalemate.

Presumably they're the same thing, but it's never actually addressed.

If the intent behind your actions is "I'm going to kill GER so I can beat Giorno", then no, that won't work, because you're still trying to beat Giorno. Otherwise, we don't know. Again, Diavolo only actually lost to GER because he took the single route you literally can't take against GER - trying to take action against Giorno. We don't know exactly who GER can extend its protection to or its power over, but we know a lot. You're allowed to defend yourself at the very least on reflex. Presumably if you're purely not trying to "attack" Giorno, but "defend" yourself, you can do anything you want.

Potentially you can take hostages, as long as you're not specifically taking hostages to use them against Giorno - get scared and take a hostage, and then go "wait, this is a pretty good situation", you can just sit there with your knife to a guy's throat. GER can't force you to DO something, only NOT do something. He can't make you drop the knife, and (again, unless he can extend his protection to other people), he can't stop you from slitting someone else's throat out of pure malice. Giorno doesn't even know GER's power, but even if he did, if you have a knife to someone's (or a few hundred someone's) throat, Giorno might willingly stand down. GER isn't an "I win" button, he's reliant on Giorno's soul, and if Giorno doesn't want to fight, then GER can't protect him.

Similarly, any automatic (especially mind-affecting) powers can kill him. I'm sure there's at least one villain who makes people want to kill themselves or something with the villain's sheer presence. The villain can't go "I'll walk over there and make Giorno kill himself", of course. Narcissism, lack of interest in others, there are lots of ways a megalomaniacal supervillain with some sort of automatic or passive power could encounter Giorno, even get into a "fight" with him, and simply not-care his way to victory.

>GER can't force you to DO something, only NOT do something.
Yeah, but if you tried to slit the person's throat, he'd just nope it.

Again, we're never actually told who he can extend his protection over. If he can nope action taken against anyone, then yeah. But if he can only negate action against Giorno, then killing your hostages because you're evil is perfectly acceptable.

The only explicit, sourced English translation I could find of GER's power stated that it "negated an attacker's action and willpower". At the very least we know you can do anything you like as long as you don't "attack", and it'd be pretty reasonable, I think, to assume that GER can only negate stuff actually specifically done to GER / Giorno, otherwise Made in Heaven wouldn't have worked and one would assume that crime and fights in general would simply stop whenever GER was summoned. (that or it has a range, in which case we've opened up "snipe from orbit" as an easy win condition)

GERs range is 0, which is meaningless. Original GE had a range of 2 meters, but GER is just as good if not better. It also still has the ability to give life to things, like when it flicked a pebble at Diavolo with enough speed that he couldn't block or dodge it despite having A in speed and power, and the pebble shattered a pillar behind Diavolo, yet the pieces of it turned into scorpions despite GER not having touched them.

His "0" stats might as well be infinity for all it matters.

You're forgetting that GER can (and will) protect Giorno from hostile forces even if he has no idea that they're there. Strictly speaking, it's not even following Giorno's will at all, and is working solely off its own alien intelligence and loyalty to its host.

If it perceives that something might be detrimental to Giorno, no matter how slight, then it will likely intervene.

It doesn't need to hit you particularly hard. It can just trap you in a never-ending loop or spam artificially created entities at you for eternity within said loop.

People seem to think GER only kills by punching. When really, its most lethal effect is the loops it can create.

Well the trapping does stop me but how tough are these entities?

In theory, they are really strong but the most dangerous apect of an stand is its ability and not its punches.

No one below cosmic. It’s literally “no u” personified

>doesn’t pack enough punch to dent
We don’t know that nigger

Well the whole resetting everything doesn’t sound it will kill me, sounds like it will literally force nothing to happen.

Don't let Snyder read this or he will create the ''zero force'' or something like that.

There’s already a Still Force

And does that work like GER?

Uh, it stops things, yeah

No, your actions still happen under the Still Force. It just completely slows down your movement to nothing. It's meant as a hard-counter to the Speed Force.

>this
to be honest I heard he could defeat Alien X, so yes :^)

And he needed to introduce a concept just to slow down Barry? Fuck Snyder is a hack.

Most of the Legion members got counters for their opposites and enemies. Grodd simply got the Still Force.

Well technically the Turtle’s had it for a while, also I think Grodd just has the deaged Turtle Baby strapped to him

Given that Made in Heaven actually happened, GER clearly has some limitation. Range, activation conditions, there's a clear loophole that can be exploited. If GER had infinite range and affected anything perceived to be threatening to Giorno, turning it on for a split second would have blocked Made in Heaven.

Bu Grodd is fuking OP already.
Is that like Frankenstein and Black Canary were on Futures Ends?

Maybe you are just overthinking and maybe, just maybe he just survived the reboot and that's it?

More like a Baby Bjorn

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What the hell happened with the Flash series? I lost interest after another speedster decided he wanted to take revenge on Barry/Wally, again.

Superman and the green lanterns can tank planet level explosions. The physically strongest stands at their peak can crush road rollers and giant diamond teeth

For the millionth time where the shit do you get this from. Diavolo was trapped in a loop because he could never fully reach the reality of death. For that to happen GER has to kill you, and you know how it killed Diavolo? By punching him really hard. Something it can't do to half the bricks in marvel or dc. Quit it with the headcanons.

Everyone who wasn't killed by Pucci or the accelerated objects around them survived the reboot speedreader

The whole fucking world was accelerated, who besides Giorno and maybe Rohan could have survived that?

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Cringe

Outta my way manlets.

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GER reverts things back to 0. so if someone attacks him, he can revert that action back to 0. And if he hits you he could send you into a death loop, because your death reverts back to 0

Emporio did. A ton of people did. That was Pucci's entire intent, for people to survive and arrive to the new universe with full subconscious knowledge of the previous one

i like to believe giorno was messing around in disneyland during the acceleration.

A ton of, not all of them.

>goes to bop him on the head.
>gets reset
>bops him on the head anyway
gg no re

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Kek.

>For the millionth time where the shit do you get this from. Diavolo was trapped in a loop because he could never fully reach the reality of death. For that to happen GER has to kill you, and you know how it killed Diavolo? By punching him really hard. Something it can't do to half the bricks in marvel or dc. Quit it with the headcanons.
I wonder why every jojofans always ignore this argument. They never reply to this

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Happened before. There was an episode similar to Duck Amuck where Bugs was in Daffy's place and Elmer was the one screwing him over.

this but unironically

Not unless toonforce or some other bullshit. GER is just "no" personified

He has to actually kill you to reset your death to zero.

Tusk Act 4 too then. IIRC in the game Valentine tries to recruit Giorno and Johnny since he thinks only two (2) stands could potentially beat Over Heaven (GER and Tusk)

why did we never get an anime from that? owlman banchou was dope

Fuck outta here with that shit. I never see this guy do ANYTHING of worth
>inb4 one wank page of him scaring a literal who vs thousands of media of him getting blown the fuck out

Willpower

You need someone that has the ability to negate other abilities through foresight, presence or existence. In that regard, cartoon based abilities might work, since toon based abilities don't adhere to any rules and are only weak to imagination.

Another would be the passive effect of slowing everything down. White Album and Green Day would've had a chance because even if you reset the active movements to zero, the natural side effects would persist. The problem with KC/Epitaph is that it's an activated ability and damn near close to passive. It's very easy to reset that and avoid Epitaph because KC activated an ability in front of GER.

And I hate to bring the super power wiki into this but primordial elements also work: Darkness, Light, Celestial, anything that can, has and will continue to exist regardless of time as you can't "zero" and infinite or timeless aspect.

That's my take anyway.

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Novel kars can beat him with zero effort, he can steal stands, he was able to steal Made In Heaven.

Donald Duck

>Who is Superman?
The end result will always be the same no matter what new and fancy powers pop out of Yea Forums and Yea Forums

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>Batman's stand is MONEY! MONEY! MONEY!

What would Wonder Woman’s Stand be?

nothing because it cas to pierce his skin, unless he was carrying kryptonite with him, even though it is stated that the process is triggered by some kind of virus or microorganism, so unless supes will most probably have an immune system capable of dealing with it, under the influence of kryptonite he would be too weak to withstand the "stand-creating process" killing him

>67117▶
>
>Fuck outta here with that shit. I never see this guy do ANYTHING of worth
He did it as Parallax.

If the World Over Heaven can beat GER then that means any Yea Forums reality warper or equivalent can.

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hal fags are fucking trash
>ger resets action
>willpower
>ger resets willpower
>willpower
>ger actions reset actions and willpower!
>bu-but ma willpower win cause
>Ger cannot be hurt,killed,stopped or be taken out by the ring as it will reset his actions putting him in a loop until gers wins
>willpower

Looks like willpower wins

give him a stand that lets him know if people are about to die or about to get hurt and how to avoid it.

nope

Yeah but it does

>THE SUN
the fuck....KC punched his own soul. Chariot was a stand attached to the soul of whoever was looking at it. when he punched the (sun) soul it hurt requiem because its the shadow of the soul

can't cause he resets willpower. He is literally not letting you have the ability to use the ring or fight

>Beaten by Goku

Except Vegeta beat him. Badly.

Yeah but willpower overpowers that

but it can't. Ger power literally resets the action

Giorno wasn't affected by Made in Heaven.

And willpower ignores that

Not how the ring works and Ger power won't let it

Yeah but willpower does it anyway

Gold Experience Requiem's ultimate ability is to turn any of its opponent's attacks and willpower back to the state of "zero", completely nullifying them
>willpower
nope

Yeah but willpower does it anyway

Not an argument

Neither is “nope”

it was explained over and over that he resets your actions, willpower included. Also mahatten destroyed your ring so its not that powerful

And I’ve explained over and over willpower wins. Because it turns that “no” into a “yes”

Nobody here talking about how GER is the light lantern ring

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that's the stupidest thing i ever heard before. you're telling me Hal mothafucking jordan can somehow will his will to will itself to will an action from a creature that can stop a action?

can trap people in time loops and set people's abilities to zero

Yes

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youtu.be/r_mfpy2ZyQQ

Anything not Toonforce or a stand in for the writer loses easily. Not even Supes could bullshit out. Hal would be nerfed to a normal human.

>Gold Experience Requiem's ultimate ability is to turn any of its opponent's attacks and willpower back to the state of "zero", completely nullifying them and preventing them from becoming "real".[3][5] Hence, it is virtually invincible, as all "supposed" actions created by an opponent would have been reset (back to point zero). It is mentioned by Giorno himself that he is unsure of the exact workings and limits of GER's powers,[6] but it has been shown that its range of influence extends from surface contact to even being in the mere attention of GER.

>If the opponent is attacked by Gold Experience Requiem itself, then they will also continuously experience death, as they will die but repeatedly return to point "zero": the point immediately before the process of death (i.e Diavolo's endless death loops). Through this ability, GER creates a new "reality", as it calls it, for Diavolo as a form of poetic justice for the many times the mob boss has manipulated reality to his advantage with King Crimson.[6]

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jesus hal jordan fans are hardheaded.

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Kind of the point

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wouldn't "willpower turns 'no' into 'yes'" require willpower existing in the first place? So if you erase it, there's nothing to turn "'no' into 'yes'".

Willpower is just that strong

>Willpower is just that strong
>willpower is
>is
a-ha!

Yep, it sure is that strong

you just admitted it needs to "be" in the first place to work

Yep, and it still wins. Because it’s willpower. And I’m glad you agreed too

GER has one other move, doesn't it? To shoot beams of light at people.

If he goes against superman. He just has to treat it like a Broly situation, keep powering him up until he gets super-cancer and implodes.

No he can also manipulate matter to make non living things into living things

he has a shit load of moves even some he never used again. one ablilty overloaded the person with life energy that made the person's brain work faster then the body could move. Now with his powerboost, he is the light latern ring on crack

It sure wins as long as it exists, as you yourself admitted.
But if there was something that make that willpower not exist...

Who can stop him?
>Superman (he's find a way to win, that's at the heart of the concept of the character.)
>The Shade (he's an immortal gentleman thief who would trap them both in a dark pocket dimension.
>Dr. Manhattan (he'd see the possible futures, and prevent all deaths, then convince Giorno that they're both fictional)
>The Flash (at top speed, even Giorno couldn't stop him.
>Scott Free, he'd escape the endless deaths, and he's done it multiple times before.

The World Over Heaven

Yes, but willpower would still exist because it wills itself too

Golden Experience Requiem still has base ability of Golden Experience which is to imbue objects with life energy.
If it punches a non-living object it turns it into an animal, plant or a chunk of living tissue. If it punches a living being, the extra life force makes the punched animal/human perceive everything in slow-motion and with enhanced feeling (pain included).
This makes GE's punches more painful for the living targets.

>it wills itself
So, if there's no willpower in the first place it can't jump-start itself because it needs itself to begin with. So GER wins.
QED.

Yes, but it wills itself to anyway

>yes
Thank you for admitting defeat.

I like Green Lantern but halfags ITT just won’t accept it. Hal isn’t Toonforce no matter how much you want it to be

Even if he couldn’t reset his willpower to zero (he can). He could just amp his brain dial to 15 so he can’t comprehend his own actions

Glad you agree that Yes beats No

Those are just words in English.
You confirmed GER beats Hal.

>marries a white girl
>loses mass

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WILLPOWER, FUCK YEAH!

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Hal beats GER, not sure why you can’t comprehend this

Because you admitted yourself GER beats Hal.

>these weebs not understanding who could really beat GER

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Giorno Giovanna, I've come to bargain.

BTW, original Ditko Strange is a lot like Joseph, using wits and bluff to defeat much more powerful villains and enhancing trickery with magic.

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Dr Manhattan may see all time at once, but that's literally what King Crimson does as well. And there's no telling if Dr Manhattan would even care to fight GER in the first place.

I recall saying willpower wins

what the fuck is up with those 2 gorillas pummeling Hal while he's down?

did they wanted to make this into a comedy show?

You also confirmed GER wins by stating willpower must exist in the first place.
Which means something erasing willpower wins by default.

Ship

Coming again to save the mother fucking day, yeah!

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Not if it can’t erase the will

Oh, but it can and it does!

Not Hal’s. Too strong.

WILLPOWER, FUCK YEAH!

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>Supes
Writing notwithstanding, i think he does have a chance, his powers arent reality manipulation, so theres nothing to cancel here, also, no matter how strong its punches are, Stands arent magic, Supes could take them on, therefore, he wouldnt die/get sent to the infinite loop of death.

>Shade
creating pocket dimensions is a way of reality manipulation, probably GER could cancel it.

>Dr. Manhattan.
probably a stalemate.

>Flash.
i can see him winning, Speedforce is quite the next level of bullshit.

>Mr. Miracle.
Also win. Newgod alien tech +escapist bullshit sound like a perfect match.

Yup, Hal's too!

Hal Jordan is the only way, yeah!

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Sorry but Hal’s will is just too much

GER erases Hal's will with ease.

I'm not that guy, but in the DC universe will power is a multiversal force generated by all living things. It's possible that it's beyond GER's power since he's universal.

Hal’s will is too much

It's the dream that we all share!

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Didn’t Green Lantern lose by Batman lowering his willpower before? And that’s without a power to explicitly do that.

He's the hope for tomorrrrroooooowww!

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And it still gets erased.

Superman would lose easily unless the writer wanted him to win. Same as Goku.

Flash is the only one who stands a chance and even then it’s iffy. He’s gotten fucked by time loops before

Hmm, there's nothing that would suggest GER can erase universal forces, just actions and willpower used against it.

FUCK YEAH!

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Too strong.
Wally could do it, he outraced the concept of death

alternate universes are a thing in Jojo tho and Gers power literally takes you to another universe that causes you to die over and over. i can understand if it was a god or someone with some sort of power that can counter this but hal and the power ring doesn't do this

Still gets erased.

Will is too much

Or he could be "king and jester"

Still gets erased.

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Will is still too much to be erased

Still gets erased.

Will is still too much

honestly, that'd be a cool fight

Can we please meme DC into letting Morrison Write a Giorno Graphic novel?

In order to "be to much", it needs first "be".
Erase that and voila. GER beats Hal.

Will is too much to erase

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This thread is starting to get boring.

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Only as long it "is". Ergo GER wins.

Ergo, Hal wins, because Will is too much

GER still erases it.

Will is still too much to be erased

The thing is there's nothing to "be too much" in the first place.

And there is too much to be made nothing

let's say hypothetically speaking his will is strong and he can attack without it being turned off. how will he kill Gers in a fight since Gers will reset damages and just keep hitting him. any hand on hand combat will not be able to work since Ger can reset it

didn't will and other rings start losing energy because it was running out last time. seems like there wasn't too much

Too much will, and extra will solves the hurting issue

All this will is made into nothing.

Too much will, as established

>extra will solves the hurting issue
how when Ger can reset his own damage and be fine. doesn't matter how many times hal attacks, ger will just reset it.
>Too much will
power rings run out eventually

Hal’s just got a shitload of will. His ring is more a power limiter nowadays

so what i get from all this is this
>hal is able to see stands(invisible creatures made of a piece of the human soul that can only be seen by other stand users)
>hal can punch a creature that only stands can hurt
>hal can somehow out will a creature that zero sums everything even will and damage done to it

That too much also gets erased.

It's clear to me that Hal only ever loses because he wills it so.

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Yeah, shitload of will

the halfag you've replied to is heavily autistic or trolling

...which still gets erased.

And is still too much

yes. yes i agree with the autistic part

Not a problem for GER which erases it without breaking a sweat.

It is a problem because too much will

As it was established earlier, no amount of will is a problem for GER, even "too much". It erases all of it easily.

Hal’s will is too much.

Hal couldn't will his way out of a cereal box.

Yeah, just goes to show how weak GER is

Thanks for playing.

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but it still gets erased.

And it’s still too much will

Which is no problem for GER as it erases that "too much" with no sweat.

Can’t. Too much willpower

It can and it does.

Not Hal’s. He’s got too much willpower

Yup, Hal's too. That's GER power: erasing willpower.

Too much willpower

GER still erases it, no problem

Hal’s just too much willpower to erase