Is it gonna be announced tomorrow?

So its Gohan vs Superboy? Not Gokek vs Superjobber?

And flattened the World Forger in one punch after breaking out of the 6th Dimension.

Goku shook infinite space and can literally punch through pocket dimensions.

Also which Superboy? Conner or Jon?

Infinite 2D space. Even then, that’s inferior to Superman’s infinite 4D feat and 6D feat. Also, shaking something isn’t the same as destroying it.

It is

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Don’t forget about when he punched his way out of Hypertime.

Now this is more interesting than another Superman vs goku shit.

Also if it is the season finale, than fucking hell Galactus vs Unicron gets cucked again

Its not an official match
Its a Community Death Battle meaning they ask viewers who think would win and why
Community matches can be official episodes though such as Sigma vs Ultron, Batman vs Black Panther, and Johnny Cage vs Captain Falcon

Here's the leak list since Yea Forums of all boards guessed 3 of them to a T, it's either
>Gordon Freeman vs Issac Clark
>Punisher vs Red Hood
>Megas XLR vs Gurren Lagann

The salt was hilarious but why the fuck do people actually still care about these hacks?

Mate, I was the only one who predicted Isaac Clarke vs Gordon Freeman because one of the podcasts had them express interest in doing Gordon
desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/co.desu.meta/text/gordon freeman isaac clarke/
None of my predictions have worked

>Implying
Fucking small brain.
You think they want to do the same fight a THIRD time? They are clearly setting up a bait and switch. Make it look like a rematch to the powerlevel faggots, then immediately turn it yaoi. Get the fujo market since they know the powerlevel-tards will never be happy with logic. Look at the last two Goku vs Superman fights AND B10 against Hal. They know they can make money off this. Just not off the retards who are screeching for a third time. Also yes, Goku obviously bottoms to stronger opponents. Why do you think he is always looking for them? Bottoms be thirsty.

>that’s inferior to Superman’s infinite 4D feat and 6D feat. Also, shaking something isn’t the same as destroying it.

It's not fear if it doesn't exist in goku universe.

>Teen gohan
>9-11 years old
lol

I swear to god that some user here predicted like 3 of the episodes this season and one of them included Gordon Freeman. But it's another one of those lucky guesses I guess.

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>Superboy VS Jobhan

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>Megas VS Gurren Lagann

Megas is great but come on that's just not fair.

Teen Gohan

If I hear another DBZ related matchup it better be Martian Manhunter vs Big Green and not more "MUH SAIYAN POWERS"

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I don't know martian manhunter that well. Other people on Yea Forums have said at various points that he was stronger than superman.
Is there any truth to that?

>Gohan vs Superboy
IT'S PRIME TIME!

There is truth...but unlike every Justice League writer he never had his handjob moment like when Superman tore through an anti monitor, or when Flash tore a hole through reality, or when Green Lantern punched through a concept of higher thinking, etc etc.

Z-Fighters vs Justice League Battle Royale?

>Superman isn't popul-
Why do faggots claim he isnt popular when he is litterally part of the biggest debate in history. Plus the most viewed deathbattle.

>when he is litterally part of the biggest debate in history.
that's not Hulk vs the Thing in the 80's

JL steamrolls

Even without those feats, I feel if that's the case, piccolo might lose if only because piccolo doesn't exactly have the best track record of beating opponents after the original DB.
I think his two shining moments would be garlic junior and when he basically fought 18 to a draw. Maybe his fight with cell too.

>Don't worry I'll finish this by reading his mind
>Nail and Kami: What's up
>AHAPHHHGGHGHHHHHHHH

Its Conner, not Prime.
Non jobber MMH is theoretically stronger than the JL, Superman admitted that MMH is stronger than him. When he became Fernus, he wrecked the whole League

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Kino

Can J’onn unlock Fernus mode?

You watch too much abridged kid, Nail and Kami were absorbed by Piccolo's conscious. We've only seen their silhouettes in DBS.

youtu.be/ZJVvrmLSTsg

Goku can beat him. Instant transmission kryptonite

Lobotomy

He doesn't even know what kryptonite is

Where's the guy who said he'll eat a Goku if it gets announced?
Where's the fucking plushie?

I actually got that.
Got a chuckle out of me user.

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Wait I thought that fight with Pilina and Saonel implied that Nail and Kami were at least separate to a degree?

If he does, I hope he doesn’t get sick. Can you get sick from eating plushie?

Even if he did, Goku wouldn’t weaken his opponent to give himself an advantage. Hell, he would do the opposite. If he found out about Clark getting stronger with sunlight, he would probably let him sun dip for a while.

No, he got rid of his Fernus persona after. The universe was rebooted to the New 52 since then so I don't know if he has it again.

The guy was playing you, he prob doesnt even have a plush

Well at least he still has his mental powers I guess, assuming it’s not like DCAU for him in comics

>Anime thread mentioning MHA, Naruto or DBZ

Most plushies are synthetic fibers.
If you ate a whole one there's a good chance at a bowel obstruction.

They already had 2, wouldn't a 3rd be pointless.
If they make Superman win again to reinforce their point again that they're not written in the same way to make them a close competition, DBfags would bitch forever again.
If they make Goku win they'll just call it pandering or caving in to the DBfags

Saitama > Superman > UI Goku

Goku in the comics would obliterate Superman considering normal humans beat him all the time through gimmicks

Supes wins
UI lasts like 2 minutes & really damages goku's body, there is a good reason he didn't use it against broly

The best chance goku had against supes was shoving the power pole into his brain, otherwise no chance

Gross

Superman can't hit Goku and Goku can't dish damage to Superman. So it will be draw until Goku runs out of UI steam. In the end Supes win.
But is the only correct answer.

>some baldie who ain't even S rank
>above anyone

Jiren could hit UI goku pretty easily, i think supes will be able to hit him too

>The lights go dim
>A dragon ball logo slowly emerges from the shadow
>It's the American Flag waving from some stock footage site
>"ONE LAST TRY"
>IT'S EVOLUTION GOKU VS Smallville Superman

Rank is just tiering made by human. Caped Baldie is above every tiering, thus untiered.

Also potentially dangerous because it can cut off flow to the intestinal walls, causing tissue death.
So don't eat things that aren't food.

Goku's main ability is to tank a punch and get a free powerup. They might even use Goku Black's abilities because he's still Goku using SSG powers.
That combined with nakama and hakai on a composite Goku and it's a fair fight.

This is so shitty, don't you feel embarassed?

Goku can't access UI at will thats why he didnt use it against Broly. Real reason is Toriyama doesnt care about UI

I'd rather have a fucking joke battle than another "BUT GOKU CAN WIN THIS TIME WITH HIS NEW FORM" shitfest

Smallville Superman wins

>Can I beat you now?
No
>How about now?
No
>But, what about now?
FUCK OFF ALREADY!

Not really, no. Have you ever read a Supermam comic end event? Unlike your mangaka shit where they just port it all over to anime for you lazy fucks, comics have too much material to work with to turn it all in to cartoons. You want to see Superman at his best? Read the source material or whine about not knowing how deep the rabbit hole goes.

Why would anyone opinion override your opinion then makes you angry? Opinion is not truth and based on every evidence we had, Supes is still stronger than Goku.

>Toriyama doesn't care about UI
Before you tell lies, can you show context in where you read that? UI is an automatic win button for a low-threat like Broly. The saiyan isn't even stronger than Kefla, and by default, Jirin.

It's because Toei made UI too powerful & basically turned it into super saiyan 10, the manga toned it down heavily, it kind of hints Jiren could have beaten it if he just focused & calmed down instead of throwing out punches in a rage

Fusion SSB Gogeta >Broly > UI Goku
You must understand that UI is a technique and not power-up.

I did. The story is that Superman is FAR above Goku's level. But Goku learns in the middle of fights and gets a new transformation mid-battle. Even Black and Vegeta showed this was possible. And notice Goku is the underdog against each of his villains and gains the upper hand by the end of the fight.

Anime nakama = Gary su to the max.

Goku vs Superman would go from

youtube.com/watch?v=1LFyNYF1vac

to this

youtube.com/watch?v=iZ45BppH50I

It's just so tiring seeing nothing but "Goku can win this time" arguments and them thinking the value of a character solely relies on a noncanon internet show.
Superman will always be stronger than Goku but I always see the same shitters go "But muh hakai powers or muh ultra instinct". Also I'm mad that Goku vs Superman is the only time Death Battle ever even reconsiders rematches when half a dozen desperatly need one

Which way is Superman gonna win this time?

This

youtube.com/watch?v=uEonkDLrsz4

And Superman always finds a way. If you wanna get into this, look at the Thought Robot, a representation of how Superman is as always as strong as he has to be so he can save the day

>a representation of how Superman is as always as strong as he has to be so he can save the day
This is typical Japanese trope, except Japanese stuffs never take it to multiversal or dimensional bullshit. Nothing special.

Jirin still called it a power-up.
SSB Gogeta=SSB Vegito > UI Goku = Jirin > Kefla = Broly

And Kefla is a potara fusion on top of the Legendary Super Saiyan transformation. Making her equal to Broly is generous, but even then, UI Omen tore her apart. Broly is not stronger than Omen or Mastered UI.

Is Supes NLF Character?
Yes, he is. Goku characterization revolves around how he will power-up and aim to be the strongest by constantly training and fighting stronger enemies but ultimately he may or may no lose. while Supes will find a way and become beacon of hope nonsense.

>thinking the value of a character solely relies on a noncanon internet show.

People vicariously live through their favorite cartoons and comics. If their favorite cartoon beats a character from someone else's favorite cartoon, they reason it means they're better for liking the better cartoon. Their favorite cartoon character is better than others only if they can beat them in a fight.
The reaction to ben 10 vs hal showed a lot of people either implying this or outright stating it.

If there's proof that God don't exist or he hates us this is. I can't believe they're doing this AGAIN

Goku fought and won against Jiren, no amount or opinion can win against Author, Official Movie, Official Novel, and various Media that stated how Broly is the strongest enemy Goku ever met.

Hal could easily beat Goku

What happened?

In your dream.

Saitama has to hold his breath in space.

>Yes he is
It's not NLF when you can actually back up your claims with feats.

Reference where please? Goku said Broly was stronger than him, not the strongest enemy. And still strength like Jirin over there means nothing compared to technique and skill. Aka Ultra Instinct.
Manga Roshi proved that against Jirin, Broly couldn't even touched Whis, unlike Goku's skills allowing him to get bit.

But can you?

And before that, Broly isn't even stronger than Beerus. If he was, Beerus would've stood up and been there. He was no threat.

>They decided to do the Gohan vs Kon fan poll at RTX
>This means we're getting Superman vs Goku 3!
Goddam why are you all so retarded?

>DBZcucks in denial

He will have enough time to one punch anything within his breath holding time.

>Hal vs Ben comes out
well it can't get any worse from here
>Goku vs Superman 3 is hinted
fuck

Gee user, which infinity-level feat do you want?

Him lifting a book of infinite pages that contained all the universes of the orrery and Monitor Mind?
Him breaking through hypertime?
Him breaking through a tower of infinite timelines?
Him punching out the guy that made all the different multiverses including the infinite one and breaking his anvil upon which he hammered out all those universes?

PICK YOUR FEAT

they said there's a fucking reason why they're doing this match specifically
what do you think is the reason?

Not them but when was the tower of infinite timelines thing? I wanna check that out

Nah, if Jiren is really stronger than all GoD including Beerus, Beerus would have sought him instead of SSG Myth and from BoG, we knew Beerus can't be bothered when he fell asleep.

>Hal Jordan dismantling one of the most overhyped and overwanked characters of all time in his debut episode
>Not one of the best episodes of all time
The fuck?

I meant salt wise

Ben 10 fans were salty and hal fans were saying much to the same effect.
People are taking these things personally and it's probably not good for anybody.

Goku, frieza & 17 won against jiren, goku technically couldn't knock him out

In multiple podcasts apparently Ben 10 being written in for Death battle was up there with
Wolverine vs Baraka
Venom vs Bane
Superman vs Goku
and Link vs Cloud
Ben 10 fans clamored for Ben to get his spotlight especially after Kuro made a video about how Alien X is the strongest character in fiction. Then the Death Battle happened and it was the equivalent of seeing "Krillen beat Darkseid" apparently. I'm in the camp of "Well no shit, Beware muh power" but Ben 10 fans didn't take their L gracefully as most people.

Is that supposed to be amazing? Even minor Suggsverse sidecharacter is stronger than Supes.

Rebirth. It's right before Superbro and New Earth fuse.

Ben Tenfags got their Alien X secutiy blanket ripped in half by a character they considered sub-Saiyan Saga level and it was wonderful to watch.

I enjoyed the fan art

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Jirin isn't from Beerus' universe. That would be off his own terf. I think you meant Belmod.
If Broly was stronger then Whis would've found the Legendary Saiyan before Goku.

Suggsverse isn't real fiction.

They decided not to with Beast Boy or Danny Phantom because it'd be a stomp in Ben 10's favor
They decided Hal because he fits theme wise, the constructs fighting Ben's aliens would be fun to see, and they assumed he'd at least "survive most of Ben's aliens"

I don't know user. Let's put on our big boy thinking caps and come up with reasons why.

Think of it as a game. A game that's easy to win because you just need to think of something that's not Goku vs Superman 3 you retard.

>Is that supposed to be amazing
Yes, Goku never reach those feat and yes Suggsverse >>>> Superman.

Your post is not real post.

>Supposedly it's a "father and son" doubles match with Goku vs Superman as the fight and Gohan vs Superboy as the fan poll
>They use Kon
>Not Jon
What in the fuck were they thinking?

J’onn basically cancelled the entire Justice League’s brains after he got over his weakness and became Fernus.

Jon’s kinda new I guess? And I know I’d want to ignore Bendis making him a teen. I could go for a Goten/Jon fight

Your dad is not your real dad.

This is the big red flag for me regarding if we're getting Goku vs Superman 3 or not.

If we were wouldn't they have used Jon instead of Kon?

Read

Your dad is still not a real dad.

I just don't want it for the sake of variety
Why can't they just let Goku v Supes die already, we've already established the winner, and there's countless more interesting fights they could do.

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I get the feeling I may have accidentally started something and now ben10 fags and hal fags are gonna fag it up in this thread.

Possibly

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Yes. Goku is the winner.

DESU despite the reaction from Ben 10 fans, the idea of American Dragon vs Danny Phantom being thrown around is much better since you could debate either side winning.
Before you debate there are several episodes where Jake Long has punched and burned a ghost, so let's get that detail out the way

Naw their autism is about to be eclipsed by the greater autism of anti-Vic/pro-Vic fags.

Quiet you.
Dragon Ball isn't even the best thing Toriyama even made

>He broke through Mxy's infinite planet and shattered Forger's anvil
>And flattened the World Forger in one punch after breaking out of the 6th Dimension.
>He punched his way out of Hypertime.

When did all this happen?

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>it's another goku gets a new transformation
>he's bad at using it and almost dies
>rinse and repeat until toriyama finally fucking dies

Forger feats are a week or two ago
Mxy was right before Post Crisis and New 52 Superman merged

Nah, it'd be funny to seem them intermingle with Supes and DBfags

Uh, the last two were in Snyder’s JL, and Hypertime was in AC 1000

didn't supes kill Manhattan recently?

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but only two people brought up Ed vs Aang

I accept your concession.

Suggsverse is bad fanfiction, you let your power level fantasies get to you. The story and conflicts comes first, cool feats are just a bonus

If I could draw, I'd doodle Ben and Halfags still going to war with each other only for them to stop and notice Superman and Gokufags literally eclipsing the sun with their bullshit

More people will talk about it when SvGIII gets deconformed tomorrow.

I accept yours, kid.

Lions can beat Tigers

Suggsverse isn't even real. Never published, never made a penny.

Here check out my Anonverse. It's Suggsverse but everyone is more powerful. Can anyone beat Anonverse? No. Anonverse always win.

The weakest Anonverse character WOULD RAPE the strongest Suggsverse character. Change my mind.

We'll probably get
>Aang vs Ed preview
>One new match announced
I don't expect another one seeing how they only revealed two last year to show the road for Episode 100
Thinking that if its an Ismahawk collaboration, its Cole MacGrath vs Alex Mercer or Gordon Freeman vs Isaac Clarke

They tend to side with Superman and J’onn to win a Death Battle because Barry, Bruce, Diana and Arthur have won at least one

Draw an Alien X+Goku fusion fighting a Hal+Superman fusion.

>All these years later
>Tigerfags are still mad they lost

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6 favor the tiger
2 favor the lion
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_versus_lion

And they're both riding a lion and a tiger.

I can't draw

bald cape still needs to breathe

You know the strongest Suggsverse character? He cried when he meant the weakest Anonverse character. "Y-Yamete Anonverse dono!" He cried.

And then he was raped.

To death.

This is canon. You can't argue against canon.

The salt peaked when Charizard lost to WarGreymon

Gurren Lagaan disagrees with you.
And because the protagonist doesn't care about the enemies' bullshit and Nakamas beyond all powerups.
youtube.com/watch?v=EEI-NCTsiPE
Superman may be stronger for 10 seconds, and then it's all over.

>Where's the guy who said he'll eat a Goku if it gets announced?

He's chillin' with the guy who said that he would eat an Infinity War disc if Aquaman broke the 1B record.

I'm not saying Red would've won but it would've been more entertaining seeing him use his full team or at least throw out a Mewtwo

That barely had 1/10th the salt of the Superman vs Goku fights and most of the salt wasn't over the result but the needlessly cruel way in which Red and Charizard were killed and Ben stating that Red and Charizard were master and slave compared to Tai and Agumon who were true equals and friends.

>SMART humans beat him all the time through gimmicks

Fixed.

What are you implying?

It won't be announced so he's got nothing to worry about.

Case in point.

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Simon will do the impossible and break Superman with his drill. Just because he believes in himself hard enough.

Doesn't Ben VS Hal have the highest salt ratio right now?

Besides no fucking shit Greymon bodied Charizard. The salty pokemon fans fail to realize is that Digimon is just Pokemon on a more ludicrous scale with chainsaws and rocket launchers attached to them.

>UI lasts like 2 minutes & really damages goku's body

Also, does UI increases the user's strenght or does it only let him adapt to the enemy? Because I don´t see how Goku's physical attacks could harm Superman, unless he was weakened.

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It's so shitty, that it could work.

*Toriyama doesn't care
Fixed that for you

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Demonbane > Gurren Laggan

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There was a rumor that with Digimon anniversary and Bamco working on several Pokemon projects that the next big spinoff would be a Pokemon x Digimon crossover with Digimon's mechanics and general love with Pokemon brand and designs. Sadly it was SMT Idol shit. Oh well

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>Enters the tower at the bottom
>Punches through it
>Exits to the side of the tower at the top seemingly coming out of nothing
How in the....

>be goku
>get shoot with bullets/lazers
>die
>b-but he was distracted! he didn't have his guard up! it's not faaaaaaair!
it only takes superman to use his super speed get behind him and kebab the shit out of him but of course superman won't do this because his no kill rule, goku has no problem with killing so he's got the uper hand during the fight because superman will keep holding back even if he gets killed in the process.

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>Implying it wouldn't just lead to Simon COMBINING with Demonbane to create Super Elder God Demonbane Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann to kick the collective shit out eldritch abominations

Any link or promo image for that?

He’s Superman

not yet

Adaptability. UI is underneath SSG fusion powerlevels. Ironically, it increases self-defense and speed stats. This technique hasn't been combined with the SS transformation which is why it's seems weak. (Like SSG red)

It was a rumor, but there was "BANDAI NAMCO IS WORKING ON POKEMON PROJECT FOR SWITCH" headlines...but it was a Pokken Port and the other Big Bamaco Nintendo game was a Fire Emblem x SMT game. But Pokemon being whored out to another company isn't unheard of

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So?

He can do anything

There's the tower and then there's the infinity inside the tower.

Reading Rainbow

From what I understood it basically sets your Dodge rating to 100% so the user can essentially focus all their power and attention on attacks and precise strikes

This. Gurren Lagaan is the ultimate adaptability machine, it might even eat a green lantern core for fun mid-battle. Simon on the other hand killed a multi-dimensional god in a fist fight on his own planet/machine. He can beat Supes.

Was this any good?

This is literally the same person.

Totally, IMO it perfectly symbolizes how just the brand and designs of Pokemon are needed and the gameplay can literally be anything else. Sadly thanks to Pokemon Company thinking if we don't have at least 3 Pokemon Games a year "The kids will forget about Pokemon" we can never have more Kino like Conquest, Battle Stadium, or even Mystery Dungeon.

>Ben stating that Red and Charizard were master and slave compared to Tai and Agumon who were true equals and friends.

Well, that's kinda true. I've never seen Pokemon trainers talking to their pokemon about mundane things, or asking for their opinions on certain matters, unlike how the Tamers do with the digimon. The digimon have a closer resemblance to the humans than the pokemon, which are more beast-like.

Adventure 2 dwells into this matter with the Digimon Emperor saga, when he uses the digimon to fight in an arena ala Pokemon, and every other human and digimon didn't like the idea.

Did anyone actually think Charizard was going to win?

>Goku has a no kill rule.
Nigga, the TOP was a no kill rule and Goku followed it even holding back using UI Mastered from blowing up Jirin even when Jirin wanted Goku to end it.
Everyone including Frieza, Frost, and Hit ...all famous killers had to hold back. The only cheaters who didn't was Kefla, GoD Toppo willing to Hakai Vegeta, and Jirin trying to kill Goku and audience at maximum power.

youtube.com/watch?v=ITuPTY7ZL9g
If he didn't stop to calm down and hold back his power, Jirin would've been a stain on the ground. Plus, why didn't Goku kamehameha him through the floor like Kefla? It was to prove a point.

This is kind of true, and a lot of people discussing these hypotheticals seem to work under that assumption or in general are the people that equate high ends of power with good writing. For me it's less about disagreeing with results, and more about disinformation that a bunch of people tend to get out of these fights. Some controversial fights I'd agree with are Superman vs. Goku, for which I don't really care about either of them(I liked DB era Goku I guess), and Jotaro vs. Ken, for which I like Ken more, but there was still a lot of misinformation about characters in the episodes themselves.

That still probably shouldn't matter to a sane person anyways, but this is co.

I guess I thought I did because I figured Dramon Destroyers wouldn’t Mega Charizard X

Anyone who was even somewhat familiar with Digimon didn't. Especially when they said evolutions were allowed. Best chance they have is if they are restricted to rookie level like in the Lucario VS Renamon match

Bruh, there is 33 unique poster currently and 200 comments. Take your meds.

Didn't Lusamine call pokemon collectibles considering how trainers treat their pokemon?

>superman won't do this because his no kill rule, goku has no problem with killing
>Goku has a no kill rule.
are you retarded or you can't read?

It was as big a stomp as Flash vs Quicksilver, Bane vs Venom and Darth Vader vs Dr. Doom

Might as well throw in Guts vs Nightmare and Voltron vs Megazord

Why is this thread still here when we already concluded how Goku will win against Supes?

Poke/Zardfags did.

To be honest, I don't know what's supposed to be impressive about these panels. I know it's Hypertime or some shit, but it doesn't seems so impressive to me.

>Guts VS Nightmare
>Their reason was essentially "Dude Guts fights these sorts of guys EVERY FUCKING DAY"

Accurate

Maybe he’ll break Superman’s hand with his face

Superman doesn't have a no kill rule. Goku doesn't even bother to kill people in Super. (Frieza was already dead before) What's your point?

Because Superman is never impressive. No substance.

He kinda does. It was a whole thing in “What’s So Funny About Truth, Justice, and the American Way.” And the movie adaptation, Superman vs the Elite,

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youtube.com/watch?v=_vUM-iuQakA

People really into hypothetical fights tend to tier stuff from measures leading up to the universe, then infinite universes, then additional dimensions. In those panels Superman is surpassing 5th dimensional nonsense.

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Hasn't he tried to destoy Brainiac for good?

youtu.be/3MjSb03P5Bg?t=70

Dimensional tiering is stupid, because most fiction portray the differences between dimensions differently.

I guess it kinda makes sense Superman is 3D (technically) and Mr Mxyzptlk is 5D, so it’s like a 1 dimensional figure beating a 3 dimension figure

cbr.com/times-superman-killed-someone/

All you have to do is google his kill count. I stopped believing the no kill rule since 2003.

Ironic considering she said that in the same game that let all your captured pokémon relax on a little island instead of rotting away in a PC forever

That's retarded, a singularity can beat anyone more that a 6D abomination

I just know for a fact it’s gonna use Injustice and other Alternate Supermen to fill it out before reading.

This has not been a good year for Mr. Mxyz. Losing left and right to a bunch of people. Even lost to Luthor of all people and got placed in his underground rapedungeon,

Affecting an imagination is different from affecting a physical thing.

Sorry if Goku Black killed ChiChi, Goten, and 99% of the human race because it's an alternate Goku.

Geez, you're retarded. And it still counts btw. Same body, same character.

Yeah. No way Simon can beat the "5 minutes til the end of episode" button.

lmao superman is literal on the same level as the world forger now (who creates new universes whenever the crisis happens) goku is literal a baby to that

I mean in general mixing universes leads to weird variables based on what a particular universe values as a feat.

Via reversing time, Clockwork restores some infinite amount of universes. It works by the logic presented in the show, but if you apply it to a universe where reversing time on catastrophic events is some sort of power struggle, it then becomes a bigger occasion than it should be.

Or absolute concepts like those in Jojo: "only a Stand user can defeat a Stand user". Maybe in their universe that's the truth, but other most people just go ahead and assume that some powerful spiritualist from a different universe could dispel a Stand if no Stand has demonstrated greater comparative power.

All of it should generally be considered for fun or a thought exercise because of what you said, though.

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>Goku hits the upgrade button midfight
>New powerup stomps stronger badguy
Underdog game be too strong.

>runs Goku through with arm Injustice style
>proceeds to go full LSS Broly on the rest of the Z Fighters
>then annihilates the other DB universes and the Destroyer gods for good measure

Didn’t work for Ash Ketchum, won’t work for Goku

How many times did Goku survive a blast, sword, laser, or whatever through the chest. It's not gonna work dude.

Ash wasn't an underdog to begin with. He had everything to overpower him plus type advantage and still lost.

...

You've got to be shitting me.....

youtube.com/watch?v=iiDqtDUxahc

Ed will go inside Aang's soul once he realizes he can't reach him and will destroy him

He kinda was, he had lost twice already and trained hard and gave it all he had with his power of friendship and still lost. Also the Dragon Typing cancels out the Water advantage

Wasn't mentioned as part of his arsenal on the researcher's blog
ulltraguy.blogspot.com/2019/07/character-analysisedward-elric.html

>I don't know anything about Injustice

Luckily it's just one of the dudes

Ed explicitly can go inside souls as a philosopher stone like he did against Pride

What's he doing here??

youtube.com/watch?v=r66S3ZlhMW4

The problem is that he has to be done in close range
He mentioned that
>Because they're created using human souls, Ed realized he can tap into the power of his own soul similarly to boost his alchemic abilities or take on a form similar to that of a philosophers stone. He’s done this once to heal himself from a serious wound and another time so he could directly integrate and attack the philosopher's stone of the homunculus pride. It's worth noting however that using this skill to boost his abilities apparently shaved several years off his life during the instance when he was healing himself.
but I'm just saying he can't do it while ranged

>Carry an experienced level 100 pikachu each episode.
>So powerful, he shrugs off team rocket by accident with a blast.
>He gets dumber every season.
Ash could have Mewtwo back him up and still find a way to lose because the writers refuse to let him win or get a gf. He'll never have character development and reset with a lv. 5 pikachu each season.

Current J'onn is back to jobber status again. Went from this to being 1 punched by Zod.

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Of course you don't.

Goku doesn't even need UI to defeat Superman. UI Goku puts him in the same league as a legit GoD. And legit GoDs are capable of destroying universes. SSG Goku was already capable of shaving the universe and potentially destroying half of it. SSJ3 Goku is sufficient.

If Hal gets his universe tier feats, Supes should get them as well

Goku.
Goku look at me.

Judging by the World Forger, Hypertime and Infinite Planet feats, he’s got this in the bag.

Superman surpass Batman and Spider-man tier of autism when it comes to the no-kill policy. Batman and Spider-man's rogues are at least manageable and not intergalactic threats. Superman would rather allow the planet destroyers/enslavers to live so that they can continue their planet destroying/enslaving ways.

Hal should had lost to Ben though.

Cope, Kuro

Lets say they lean to Superman might've been amped for the World Forger feat
Could he still win?

Judging by the Hypertime and Infinite Planet feat remaining, I’d say yeah

Hal ain't more powerful than reality manipulation even with his will form.

Willpower beats all

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I think they're going to reveal their next fight being something animated like The Samurai Jack fight or the Smokey Bear fight.

Aang vs Ed is confirmed to be sprite work
With A LOT of original assets

>This is what DBitches say to themselves every night to help them sleep

Batman invented it first. Stays truer to it in more of his media, and that's literally why he doesn't use the classic image of guns. Plus, he already defeated DC gods just by his own human feats alone, including Superman and the League.
Batman would save Joker from someone else just so he could kill him himself. Batman was born from autism, molded by it.

inb4 the song is called Three Strikes You're Out

Amped how? By flying through a bunch of suns?

He can just go and do that again.

This.

Okay. Let's say he was amped by flying through all those stars.

So he flies through a bunch of stars then punches Goku.

GG no REEE

Goku uses the Evil Containment Wave. Superman isn't immune to magic.

Goku uses Dragon Fist at full power. This one-shots all of the badguys he ever faced, never missed, and is guaranteed to BTFO any opponent.

Or he just gets a new transformation from one Superman blow and the cape is buried under 10 dimensions of dirt.

ANIME NAKAMA. Underdog story.

Yeah, Dragon Fist didn’t work so well last time.

Which doesn't make any sense since their is a limit to the amount of solar radiation Superman can absorb before he is over capacity. The real life equivalent of this would be plugging your phone into multiple different computers in an attempt to charge it faster. It just doesn't work. All-Star Superman is vastly more powerful than current Superman and even he can be harmed if he goes over his solar radiation capacity.

Nobody survives Dragon Fist. Try again with some context next time.

>Limit to how much energy Superman can absorb
Only in All-Star, and even then not really as it made him go golden instead of killing him.

Compare All-Star to main Superman who became Prime after aeons in the sun or went OWAW from just a dip. All-Star coasted next to the surface of the sun and got super cancer. It's not comparable.

I wanted the song to be called The Last Philosopher

Superman did. Infinite Mass Punch Is superior

I think he meant Supes vs Goku 3

Ohhhhh that makes much more sense. I thought it was a height joke

>being present inside the universe
yeah he sadly does not stand a chance

Alien X just isn’t shit

Gokus new power is just auto dodge, does that really add that much to his powerset? Auto dodge still gets hit occasionally too.

Depends on context. In show the limit is unknown, and according to MOA he's somewhere above 26th dimensional and below true omnipotence on account of Celestialsapien rules. If you ignore some implications the show made Hal could beat X by virtue of raw willpower.

He could have 1 gorillion dimensions. He's still getting his starry ass beat.

It lets him focus entirely on attacking since his body is auto dodging. It's only good if he can damage his opponent. Yamcha with UI would be a big power boost against others of his job level but against anyone higher he's still a jobber because he can't hurt them.

>Black Manta vs Green Goblin
Villainous Obsession

>Clayface vs Sandman
Mudslide

>Red Hood vs Winter Soldier
Lost Sidekicks

>Hawkman vs Black Panther
Metal Kings

Here's your fight bro.

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>SSG Goku was already capable of shaving the universe and potentially destroying half of it.
That’s a load of bullshit. If that was true SSB Goku should have totaled the universe while fighting Goku Black or Broly. Broly doesn’t even destroy the earth despite being stronger than Blue and in a berserker rage not controlling his powers.

Who the fuck is Sean MacQueen?

best battle music

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forgot links

youtube.com/watch?v=iYDQMZMwT8g
youtube.com/watch?v=OdAK9RGTMMM

That's not how the theoretical fights work out, until he displays powers beyond something 26th dimensional. More relevant, you'd also have to factor in distant conceptual manipulation resistance.

Has Clayface done anything on Sandman's level before, such as becoming a gigantic beach? Has Clayface absorbed a swamp or something like that at some point? I feel like if the environment allowed Sandman could just outmass Clayface.

Now that you post these, the Agni Kai theme fits Ed and Aang pretty well.
youtube.com/watch?v=Q2W2TeUUYps

>Treating dimensions as power levels
Why?
Do you have any idea how dangerous a purely 2 dimensional being is in a 3 dimensional world? They even had an outer limits episode on it.

youtube.com/watch?v=tNB13C735rQ

Another example. Imagine the amount of pain a 3 dimensional mind can take from any given stimulus. Now imagine the surface area of that mind increases dramatically by being 4 dimensional or 5 dimensional. You seeing a problem yet?

How does having 26 dimensions save you from being hit by a matter-manipulating beam of willpower energy?

No he didn't, Fernus was on sleeping mode or something like that.

>I'm 3 dimensional
>Therefore this 2 dimensional blade can't hurt me
This is you. This is how stupid you are.

Matter manipulation should cuck all dimension foolery because particles don't have dimensions.

>Does UI increase the user's strength?
Yes and no. The guidebooks say that UI is a technique that makes the user’s body work at peak efficiency. So essentially it’s Goku at his absolute strongest and fastest. The big downside however is that it only lasts 2 minutes and completely wrecks the user’s body.
Also, Goku at his strongest and fastest isn’t even close to Superman at his strongest and fastest.

Superman vs " X " is the most popular debate ever dude.

You could maybe try to make the case, but this is an area both of the established universes agree on; higher dimensional existence is, in a vacuum, superior. DC has recently further reinforced this with the sixth-dimensional beings overseeing the multiverse. And Superman has recently proven himself with possibly his best feat to date by challenging this higher dimensional force as a testament to his power(since the tiering can also consider the breakage of dimensional space). For a lower dimensional being to cause a threat to a higher dimensional beings involves tremendous power or some sort of "hax" which would have to be proven with each stretch of existence.

Likewise in the Ben 10 universe, Celestialsapiens are arguably presented as 3rd or 4th dimensional beings, maybe 5th. MOA says they're more powerful than Naljians(calling them the second most powerful revealed species), which would then make their reality manipulation on a tier beyond something 26th dimensional. But this wasn't confirmed in the show and they have one blurb about the Naljians that is factually wrong such that I think it's dubious evidence. Naljians could very well be stronger than a godlike reality manipulator(or decider) on account of being so many dimensions removed from theirs. There's the concept that Celestialsapiens are that strong enough to will themselves up the dimensional ladder or outside of it entirely, which is perhaps what MOA had on their minds.

I'm also not sure I follow on the pain concept, because ultimately pain is regulated by. Some 4th dimensional concept isn't going to experience so much pain that it's debilitating just because - everything will be relative to them and somewhat incomprehensible to us.

By existing outside of someone's state of perception such that they could never harm you, for one thing.

>Goku wears himself out after MUI
>Goku stands up and weakly punches Superman’s chest.
>Superman isn’t phased.
>Superman flicks Goku’s head which explodes like a watermelon.
>Cue salt

Superman breaks reality so hard he literally rewrites the rules of Death Battle so he doesn't have to kill Goku

B-B-But VSBattlesWiki says Superman is only Solar System level!

It's a little ridiculous when you act like Superman wouldn't get scratched by Universal attacks. But what do I know I'm a Batfag.

The great irony is that you're probably considering a blade in our world two-dimensional. If you're on a separate y-axis that blade no magical properties to trascend dimensions beyond its scope then by all means a standard 2-dimensional sword is not going to be hurting me. Then if it's on the same plane and makes contact, that is pretty debatable as to whether something with no width would actually harm me if it did "slice" me, or just pass through me entirely. A two-dimensional weapon might have some luck against microscopic constructs if it could cut through them, because the impact its structure would have from being separated by a widthless object could actually cause potential danger.

Apply this concept a few times to reach the 26th dimension and the picture probably becomes clearer.

Doesn't that site use multiple incarnations? Several of him are beyond that, and after recent feats he should have a new version reaching at least low 1-C(by their definition) once everything is settled.

>This is an area both of the established universes agree on
Bullshit. The 5th dimension isn't a big deal because its 5D. It's a big deal because its literally imagination.

We've seen 8D octopi and they're just weird octopi. We've seen 6D monitors get absolutely wrecked by 3D beings.

Hawkman's fucking rocketship can traverse infinite dimensions.

>Because ultimately pain is regulated by
Pain is electrons and receptors, and electrons have no dimension.

>By existing outside of someone's state of perception.

Yes, an nth dimensional being can dodge a 2D blade by moving in nth space. But that still doesn't mitigate what happens if they don't dodge it.

Something with no width WILL harm. Obviously the effects are speculative since 2D blades don't exist in real life, but so long as the blade isn't permeable its going to be separating particles and thus creating charge without breaking surface tension. Your atomic and subatomic structure is going to be absolutely fucked, and the effect WORENS the more convoluted your X-dimensional structure is.

Theoretically, a 2D blade is like Excalibur against 9 gorillion dimensional beings.

Man fuck their definitions and rankings.

>They think Monstro from Pinocchio is FTL
>They think Simon Belmont can snuff stars with his whip
>They put Failure X above Hal and Goku above Superman

VS battle wiki is an absolute joke.

No, they have seperate pages for each incarnation. n52/Rebirth Superman has a 2-C key after sundipping as a low ball.

That actually sounds like a fitting end.

>Classing Superbro as the same as Rebirth
The fuck? Superbro is literally half a Superman.

They have it has "Post Flashpoint" I don't know why they don't make a new page for Rebirth Superman.

It's out!

youtube.com/watch?v=gqsDw_P_2HY

That's what I meant. And I see that World Forger and co. don't have their pages yet, so it's more like they're waiting for the dust to settle and make calculations or whatever before readjusting tiers.

Not like that site should be an authority anyways, as it's barely more reliable than the average fan wiki. It can be okay for a quick guideline, but that's about it.

Because they don't care about Superman beyond being "that guy whose weaker than Goku."

Otherwise where is their Sword of Superman page?

That’s a pretty big NLF dude.

Headcannon.

>Make calculations
In other words, low-ball the entire DC universe as low as possible.

>not like that site should be an authority
Death Battle treats it as "lol no."

vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Sword_of_Superman

Clayface's shapeshifting is near elastic-man at his peak. Plus, he can take down Wonder Woman's entire army on his own in one WW comic. Plus, in the same comic, he absorbed sand to make himself huge.

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That would imply that they know anythin about Superman.

>Most RTX events won't be streamed
Well that makes things worthless

>That was kingdom Hearts Monstro
>I agree, just because someone creates a reality with a light source that doesn't mean it's actually a star
>who

Magic definitely plays a huge part of it, but the imps existing in a higher dimension has always been a focus of the characters. Yes the fifth dimension is "imagination", which was a bit of a cheeky idea, but it still functions with five. Access to the 6th dimension was no simple event and involved a 5th dimensional imp. Again, these lower dimensional beings actually putting up a challenge is supposed to be a testament to their overwhelming power. DC does take a toonier approach to higher dimensions though, sure. And across both series higher dimensional beings tend to get represented in 3-D forms for obvious enough reasons.

I've never heard that about Hawkman's ship, nor have I read any of his stuff. Is this some one-off thing from an old comic or dimensions as in different universes? I've never heard about it so I'm curious, please link. You think Hawkman would be a bigger player in recent events, yeah?

I didn't finish my point about pain the last time. I meant that it's our brain/nervous system explicitly sending us signals. It's not us being victim to some entity that will manifest differently. Maybe the idea of fourth dimensional pain would be a horrible reality to us, but to a 4-dimensional entity wouldn't it just experience it the way we experience it? The assumption in this scenario, and again in both universes, is that higher dimensional being still ultimately manage to function well enough.
(1/2)

As for the sword, a 2-d sword cutting something is pretty hypothetical but I think it would be an event of exponentially less impact per dimension while you think it would be a compounded chain reaction? I left room for the 2-D sword to impact a microscopic creature, because at that point the state of bonds being considered broken by this sword would actually have a notable impact on its entire physiology. Compare the idea of potential damage to a sword with width that would just take off an arm.

Then there's the matter of the blade's endurance. Say the person is a 3D anomaly in its 2D reality and it attempts to slice them, such that the person is its first contact with a 3-dimensional object. Can the blade withstand the force from a dimension beyond, the bonds binding the anomaly, or would the sword just. get scattered across different realities(the z-axis)? I feel like its durability would be worse considering it doesn't have the dimension it's under assault by.

Okay, I swore there was a time Clayface absorbed more mass and that's probably it. What would you say the outcome would be then? Sounds like prime stalemate material, or like an outcome more situational than usual.

Except thats wrong pokemon and trainers do share a strong connection and bond on the same level of digimon if not more at times. Another thing most pokemon love to battle as well unlike digimon. So much so that stuff like ash greninja can happen. Now whether certain pokemon and digmon might be on the same fighting level or not is a whole different story.

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They lowballed Chad X and the Ben 10 franchise in general too. All videogame characters, especially RPG characters, end up getting dropped into universe busting tiers at the very least because of them taking weird liberties with boss fights though, yes.

>this boss casts an attack called "universe bomb" and the stable boy can be in your party when the boss uses "universe bomb" so the stable boy is low 2-C

>Chad X

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I'm glad those two close friends enjoy the name

Frieza would Stomp Darkseid. He can obliterate a planet with one finger.

>Unlike your mangaka shit where they just port it all over to anime
>Imagines a series of Superman with 12+ episodes/multiple arcs w/ art and writer being closely resembled
That would be cool

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Cringe

Some autist

>Treating dimensions as power levels
Not that guy, but in general in DC comics that actually is decider of power.

Gogeta > Vegito
Gogeta has fucking magic powers, Vegito never had it.
Gogeta win.

All forms of DBS media for the Broly movie stated that SSB Gogeta is equal to SSB Vegito. I would agree that Stardust Breaker is an OP move if the enemy is evil. But Spirit Sword is an awesome move too, cuts through anything.

The thing about the Ben 10 fight that made me raise an eyebrow is flat out denying that the Ultimatrix and the Ben 10K would have similar endings. If any Green Lantern fans are still in this thread how easy is it to hack Hal's ring specifically because every 3rd Green Lantern story involves somebody hacking a Green Lantern Battery or Ring. Because I'd think Upgrade combined with Feedback would have a better chance than Alien X.

Upgrade and Feedback have one major problem
They are too fucking slow

Okay, thanks. I actually thought it be something dumber like "Hal can out will someone hacking a ring" or "Hal has unlimited energy so sapping him off until empty is impossible"

Upgrade would get bubbled so it would have to be a matter of reaching and fusing with the ring via swaps with the master control. Even then it's a guess as to whether Upgrade would work or Hal would just heat the ring and kill Upgrade.

Feedback absorbs the energy very well but I think Chromastone is a better way to blitz on that end because he's faster than Feedback, can fly, and doesn't have to absorb at certain points. Hal could just blitz Feedback while Chromastone could bait a clash and get an instant kill.

Alien X would work too, but it would be more about rewriting laws since making it a brawl is too inconclusive.

Not this again, Goku ain't winning, he'll never win since Supes can be as strong as the writers want him to be.

And he literally always will. Goku ain't shit

That's really the best Goku's got? And weebs in here thinking he's on Supermans level

God that's unfair. Edboy's gonna get creamed
But will the fans be as salty as ben10 niggers?

UGH, I love Goku, but no, Superman wins, this is a better matchup, power of the sun vs power of the moon.

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There is always the OTHER Superboy... thought I don't think the DBZ fans would like the outcome...

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No
Benfags thought Alien X was an instant win button
FMA fans do think Ed can kill in one hit via destruction alchemy but most do know the odds of him getting close enough to Aang to perform is nil
Also, they aren't as vsfag centric as Ben 10 fans

>shaking something is more impressive than punching through it
I don’t want to take sides but goddamn are some of these Gokufag arguments retarded

ed should lose so probably not

>Optimus vs Gundam
Which Gundam? Because Gundams like the God Gundam can solo Optimus.

Sailor Moon is way more broken than Superman.

man they need to fuck off with this

I dont think so, I think its going to be never ending since supes may not die he can get the solor power knocked out of him. Goku on the other hand his whole concept is to fight strong guys and he has to transform each time to match the enemy. That doesnt mean Goku wins either but it means that Goku in the meta sense is of infinite progression.

It was the original Gundam
Also, you underestimate the bullshit that is the Matrix and the absurdity a composite G1 Optimus can be
Transformers is the unholy child of bullshit Western and Japanese writing

and supes arent? not to get into an argument here but the whole point of superman's feats was to do shit like that. Now goku is doing it and now it seems stupid. I think it may have to do with a slight bias in the end.

I wonder if they will kill aang to make up for toph

That's not how things work
Otherwise, the oxygen club wouldn't be a thing and DC's streak would've ended by now

To what end? Goku will always have limits, and always have another enemy that's stronger than he is. Superman doesn't. Deathbattle are stuck with the results of the last fight, they said Goku will probably get more powerups (he did) but that it wouldn't change anything.

None, Superman doesn't need power ups, instead he just does things that reveal to the reader how powerful he's been all along. In the Library of Limbo he already demonstrated infinite strength and resilience, he's shown to specifically resist all the fanciest shit Goku can do, and guess what? That UI shit Gokufags love? That's Torquasm Rao, Superman has had that for years. Lois Lane can do it for fuck's sake. Superman has more combat experience, he can choose to phase through matter and energy (Flash taught him how), and as long as the other guy has eyes that work, Superman can reflect heat vision into their brain and kill them. Goku has no chance, and will never have a chance.

I mean its not like superman has ever lost before, oh yeah he has. I mean where were those abilities when he lost only to come back later and just punch harder?

Capeshit is retarded and powerlevels mean nothing. Normal humans can beat gods, and every cosmic entity has jobed at least once. Don't try to apply logic to it.

exactly the only thing you can apply is what they were created for.

>”Goku. Goku, look at me”

Can we at least agree that Darkseid would wipe the floor with Goku? Why doesn’t anyone talk about THIS matchup more?

all I had in my head was that Gi Joe spoof where the kid wasnt paying attention to the stranger and he drove off pissed off.

Not exactly, you know how Superman is as strong as he needs to be? Well for her her power relies on the strength of her heart, or as strong as she needs to be. She's Superman, but with cosmic powers, and her main powers are infinite power and infinite resurrection.

Forgot the pic

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Well yeah that's the point, they both have no limits, but his are physical, hers are cosmic.

wait what I was talking goku v supes. Goku was the guy who fights someone stronger only to become just as strong even for a brief moment to fight his opponent. He literally transforms to win.

Oops sorry, but Goku still doesn't win, Goku has limits, Superman has none.

Goku goes beyond his limits. Thats what he does.

True I'm not questioning that, but the problem is that Superman has none to begin with, no matter how many limits Goku breaks, Superman will always be able to beat him because he's written to be as strong as the writers make him.

but you are not understanding what he breaks into and its always to match who ever he is fighting. If its limitless then goku transfroms into limitless. Thats what goku as a character format does.

lets not forget, supes can get the sunlight power knocked out of him. So obviously he can go as high as he wants in his physical form but he still bound it.

That is not Goku's character, anytime he breaks his limits there's a new one he wants to break, he's always leaning and improving, if he was limitless he would become Superman.

I am saying he breaks his limits to match his opponents. Thats what I am saying. For all we know the next transformation will being clear god goku. The point is that Goku seeks out strong opponents while catching up to then in battle.

Yeah because that's just who Goku is. Unfortunately Superman would just get faster and stronger just because he can, which is why someone like Sailor Moon is a better fight for Superman, really those two are anti-Death Battle characters.

you what ever dude, when it comes constantly breaking your limits, then that means he's limitless. He just keeps breaking one after another. Just saying the whole character is breaking limits with with limitless transformations.

He's not limitless, how could he be if he has to keep breaking limits? He has not ever been nor will he ever be limitless.

if he keeps breaking limits then where does all these limit breakers end?

GL dies to American supremacy. Japanese can beat something that's inferior to it as a national superpowers this applies to fiction and superman is the embodiment of America, victory, and imagination to achieve any meta level of power beyond the anime cliches gl runs on.

Superman just waffles his finger in ttgls face and the robot shuts down, because superman is beyond will power and bullshit no u hax.

1 on 1
Jiren >>>>>>>>>>>> goku

This

Thought robot can re write meta physics and the unreality the go goes on by simply making it bend to superhero fiction logic manipulation or simple power negation paradox, meaning the go can't do anything about superman hitting him and it losing to conceptional plot device boxing to the face since its can't adapt to something that adapts beyond it as a infinity boundary between everything seeing all the transinfinity and unreality of go and it's near infinite power creeping.

And I meant to say "gl" not "go".

have sex

So does Sailor Moon. I guess that just proves Sailor Moon would wipe the floor with Goku.

Also a reminder to the morons who believe that "magic" beats Superman.

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To be fair, how often does that come up in events? Superman casting magic would've ended the Crisis on Infinite Earths. Really, if we were to take feats from Seven Soldiers and the most recent JLD issue Zatanna could've turned the big dumb space whale into a rabbit easy p.

>Is it gonna be announced tomorrow?
Oh lord I sure hope so. Sick to death of these ztards screeching about UI. Goku will go into the form, flying around at 6 gorillion times light speed and supes will do this: youtube.com/watch?v=klX0jtvFfx0

Then he follows it up with a "look at me" punch and 1 shots goku so hard that the omni king and all the angels die. The gap solidified in a way that will shut fagonballztards up for good.

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Don't forget DoomClock is ending in like 2 issues. I've tried to be neutral, but considering Goku cowarded out of dealing with Infinite Zamasu even with backup and Infinite Zamasu is basically the shitty bargain bin version of True Darkseid, it's difficult to see this one ending any other way. DB hasn't even brought up the Thought Robot explicitly, or Prime, or the New Super-Man pages implying Clark has actually been using something like ki all along yet.

>Don't forget DoomClock is ending in like 2 issues.
Oh you're right, yeah. I'll look forward to that in 7 years. I swear every time I go out to my LCS it's delayed another 2 months. desu I really don't want it to end with supes just punching the Doc, cause that's just stupid from a storytelling point of view, but man if I wouldn't be just a little bit okay with it to use as fuel in this debate. The fact that the doc even considers it possible is impressive enough.

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nah, the vs community will ignore this like they do with everything else that puts supes above solar system level, they just refuse to count those feats This is the level of autism we have reached with them

vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Thought_Robot

Even VB can't ignore this nigga tho

I'd understand if it was just one or two, but he's gotta be in the double digits of these feats now. Thing that gets me is when they say you're using a 'composite' superman. It's like, fuck off, it's obvious you're not reading the books.

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I'm concerned that DB will look at this battle as a political issue.

Superman is the personification of white america. Goku represents minorities and underdogs. It could be construed as racism to have Superman defeating Goku 3/3 times.

>Goku a minority and underdog
lol what manga have you been reading. In any case Goku doesnt live in America so he's not a minority. He's also a monkey alien and doesnt give two shits about race

Good. Make the people who push that lefty, industry runing tripe look even more retarded to the average guy. Yes please.

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I knew someone who was cataloging them, and there were a TON of universe+ level feats just in post crisis alone

I'm willing to bet that Goku has a lot more fans among the black and latino communities than Superman does.

>In any case Goku doesnt live in America so he's not a minority.
As if that's ever stopped them from crying about it.

Who cares about some power wankfest.
Shitterman hasn't been relevant in 30 years, meanwhile the entire world loves Goku.
Goku would win anyway.

They want to use base Superman tho.

Where have you been? The only peopel who love goku unironically and think he's a well written character are ghetto niggers and spics

>Who cares about some power wankfest.
>Goku would win anyway.
Fool.

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>Who cares about some power wankfest
Not I

>Shitterman hasn't been relevant
No argument here desu

>would win anyway
This is literally the only point I disagree on as a matter of comparative precedent analysis. Without it, I would be more than happy to agree powerlevels are gay and unlike Goku Superman hasn't turned out al of Mexico to watch him in stadiums

>the entire world loves Goku
Mexico and niggers aren't the entire world user.

>Silver Age
He always beats any Goku, besides the one or two Gokufags who think he wouldn't.

I'm honestly surprised Darkseid vs Goku has barely been discussed from what I've seen. Do Gokufags just give up once they read what the Omega Effect can do?

Is that Doctor Manhattan? Isn't that guy even more broken than Mxy? How the fuck does he consider it a possibility Superman will kill him? Even silver age can barely do shit to Mxy.

Superman’s just that strong

It's a lot more than the 20k incel neckbeards that occasionally buy a shitterman comic.

K, keep projecting. Youre clearly upset making this a personal thing and spouting newfag buzzwords

It's superman. How is this a difficult thing for you people to understand? He doesn't have a fucking power level and you can't scale him, it just doesn't work.

How many times does superman have to deal with infinities, overpower magic or withstand kryptonite, or punch out reality warpers and beat gods before you brainlets understand?

Doctor Manhattan has even said it TWICE (2) now, that's it's at least possible.

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Nice Bait

I'm 75% sure its going to be a fake-out where Doc destroys Superman and the rest of the universe but feels bad about it so he Zero Hours the universe but with the JSA in it.

But dear god, if Superman legit soul-punches Doc to death...well it wouldn't make up for the delays, but it sure would be nice to post in vs battle threads.

Why is Goku vs Superman the most hot button vs match?

Why it and not literally anything else?

So you faggots ready for Superman vs Goku III to be deconfirmed today?

Weebs vs Comic Book Nerds, two of the most annoying groups on the internet

Seriously, Goku vs Darkseid would be more interesting at least

Most well known of their respective 'locales', most visibly overpowered. Animu vs comics. Transformation trope icon vs 'overpowered' character icon. Take your pick, it's not rocket surgery, mate.

What time is the DB thing happening?

Goku is written to overcome all obstacles and Superman isn't limitless

For the same reason they never bring up characters like Martian Manhunter who’d just beat Goku no problem, they likely aren’t aware they even exist.

Doesn't Goku have a terrible win/loss record in his own show?

Goku could beat the Avatar easily but True Form would probably kill him unless you're using Heroes Goku

Gokek is a jobber. Superman jobs too. Its part of the MC's job.

They both hit that goldilocks zone between well-know and powerful.

So what are we going to call the 0-3 club when Goku creates it?

Sort of. He usually gets his ass kicked as as part of the story surpasses the person who kicks his ass and comes back to beat them

youtube.com/watch?v=eS6Zn9flYSk

HFIL

Goku can barely deal with telekinetics when they’re smart enough to use their power on him directly instead of just to throw shit, anyone that’s more than a flying brick would probably give him trouble.

youtube.com/watch?v=fqmQo7U9Z_o

>unironically posting saltthefagrammer

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Imagine doing nothing but build a youtube persona around how much you know vs battle shit just for death battle to hire some literally who blogger named Swan instead of you.

Swan is a hardcore DC autist so Goku is fucked

youtube.com/watch?v=SQujpsgd428

Helps that Swan actually does know his shit. You can tell from the ben v hal ep that he really does go through literally fucking everything when researching.

This.

I don't think they're going to do 3, but if they do announce it today Goku is absolutely fucked. Swan gave Hal the win over Alien X who recreated the universe. The fuck do you think he's going to do with Goku and Superman? Especially since Superman is having a recent spate of really good feats.

>Swan gave Hal the win over Alien X who recreated the universe.
He even mentions gmozs current run, saying it was really good. First time I'd heard of the guy and he's pretty based when it comes to this stuff.

I hope we get part 3. DBfags are getting uppity and arrogant again, need to DIAL them back a little.

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HAHAHAHA 5.9K SALTY BEN KIDDYFAGS. Almost as bad as the spic community of Gohan Blanco tards

>Gohan Blanco
I always preferred calvo. Might be less powerful than blanco, but clearly has the cool factor.

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While I agree with their assessment that Superman wins, is it wrong to criticize them for not being consistent in which pieces of canon they will consider?

Calvo is stronger than Blanco, and the natural evolution to a imperfect form

He literally said when he's tasked with a capeshit character, his go to strategy is to go to ComicbookDB, look up a character, and read read read
Notice how he said that Hal's quintillion times of the speed of light speed is slow as fuck for the DC universe

>is it wrong to criticize them for not being consistent in which pieces of canon they will consider?
What are you referring to? Please I'd like to know what you mean. They've always just used the current superman, even if they mention say, kingdom come superman, or show clips from the cartoon series, that doesn't mean they actually use those characters showings.

..part of it also might be your possible lack of understanding, too, because not only do the other versions of the character often interact with the main one, thus you can compare them, but some of them are literally still the main one. Like Nu52 and post crisis are the exact same character as rebirth.. and if we're being completely truthful, even pre-crsis is technically the exact same version and current supes is demonstrably on or even above his level, despite not having the outlandish feats.

What exactly are you referring to?

Where’s that quintillion times the speed of light feat from, anyway?

travelling the universe in under an hour

bunch of the feats are in here: g1dbteamblogs.blogspot.com/2019/05/death-battle-predictions-ben-10-vs.html

It might be the constructs scanning the universe in a heartbeat, can’t remember exactly but I’m pretty sure it’s sourced in the q&a.

that's novemdecillion times the speed of light

>Thinking its going to be Round 3

Retards.

Come on. Let's put our big boy thinking caps on okay? Think that you're death battle.

Superman is teased to punch out Dr. Manhattan, but we won't know for sure until the final Doomsday Clock issue comes out. Meanwhile, Goku is fighting a magic goat.

What was the one big complaint of 1 and 2? "You should have waited so Goku would have more feats."

If they do decide to do a round 3 its not going to be this season. It's going to be after Dragon Ball's magic goat arc finishes and after Doomsday Clock shows if Superman legit kills Manhattan or not.

Thank you for the correction.

>Hal of course comfortably stat stomps almost every alien by being considered one of the most powerful JL members, easily on the level of if not superior to Superman and Diana, who easily make their way up to and past universal in the current Rebirth Canon, which comprises post crisis, pre crisis, and New 52.
If these guys think Supes and Diana are universe level, odds are the Research Team (who has recruited people from the blog) think so as well

This is why Swan stands above vs battle (((experts))) like Robot, Kuro, and Salt.

They read wiki summaries. He actually reads comics.

Kuro is what Yea Forums is. Swan is who Yea Forums pretends to be.

That’s a big number

It's not a matter of thinking.
Everyone on the O7 League goes up to universe level when they cut loose except Aquaman and Batman.

Depends, kid Goku soloed the entire Red Ribbon army as a kid.

it is thinking when a good chunk of people in vs debating lowball them to solar system level

>Muh vs battle community
They're a bunch of insane weeaboos that don't read comics and think Cloud can blow up the planet if he just aims down. Death Battle ignore them and you should to.

Places like /r/whowouldwin, the vsbattlewiki and even comicvine to an extent, are just pants on head retarded when it comes to so much of this stuff. I still don't understand how/why Yea Forums is able to be more accurate with an overall consensus, Yea Forums is fucking awful, it shouldn't be able to do this.

/r/whowouldwin especially cancerous, it's the place that drove me away from reddit in the first place. Glad I stopped using that site.

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>Vs Debates
Ew

Yea Forums is able to be more accurate because Yea Forums sometimes reads comics unlike the vs battle community who maybe read Kingdom Come and Red Sun and DKR and other entry level comics.

docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe-iZkKh1Zdn7BTUbKdX8vjKamJd8petZ9i1KE8gzNoLrvXlg/viewform

Looking at feats they can achieve on their own
Superman: Punches Forger and breaks through hypertime
Hal: Kills Krona, flies fast enough to potentially merge with the speedforce
Barry: speedforce shit
Wonder Woman: God Mode?
MMH: TP hax, Fernus
Batman: Hellbat
Aquaman: nothing

Overall Superman, Flash and Barry can achieve the most on their own. Batman could became deadly with prep time. WW, MMH both are middle tier and Aquaman has no way of powering up

you at the panel?
>DBX are done by voting now
Crisis averted

Superboy should win based on who he's fought, but Gohan will take this poll. I guarantee it.

Yea Forums is able to be more accurate because Yea Forums sometimes reads comics unlike the vs battle community who maybe read Kingdom Come and Red Sun and DKR and other entry level comics.

Diana legit has a magical girl power up mode now.

Can Kon really take Gohan though? He's all about MUH TACTILE and I don't see how that will help him.

Yeah good point.

The funny thing is that the FF community actually hates those Cloudfags because he's pretty medium-tier by FF protagonist standards.

They did the round 2 before we actually got the God form showcased in the Super remake of BoGs with the whole shaking the universe/almost blowing up with the universe when clashing with holding back Beerus bit. So, it wouldn't be that surprising if they rushed ahead again and ended up missing recent feats.

Its not like things will change
Anime characters usually win the DBX's anyways
Only exception I could think of at the top of my head is Natsu vs Iceman and people were still angry

Really? What’s her powerup mode?

Some sort of shitty goddess of magic thing over in JLD.

Oh yeah I remember that. God I wanted to cum on her bald head so fucking hard.

Well I'm glad someone got something out of JLD.

I thought they got the universe shaking bit in 2?

JLD was good.

>her bald head
p-pic?

WW Calvo can solo the JL but I thought it was a temporary thing or did she permanently absorb Mordru's magic gem?

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Ayy

Kys tranny lover

Ayy Lmao

It’s very unclear. But she’s likely going to get an even stronger or at least equivocal powerup later because the previews indicate very soon Circe Rojo is going to be a thing.

yuck. Wish I didn't ask.

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Hahahaha

Bumpus niggeria

Superboy vs Teen Gohan is just confirmed to be a new DBX thats starting off with it being voting based and maybe having a new host
Haven't heard any announcements for any upcoming matches

I kinda like the idea of the community death battles getting animations that way.

not community death battles
just DBX's
most CDB would require an ungodly amount of original sprites and models and some are just done for laughs

Nope, it was made before we got that scene. Of course, they seemed to be going with Superman = infinite power due to the while lifting infinite pages stuff (although he did it with help, they remark that part of inifinite is still infinite and that the other characters didn't even need to be there), so that wouldn't change the result in the end.

Episode 11 is Dragonzord vs MechaGodzilla
0-3 HERE WE GO

Still, it seemed pointless from the start to me because BoGs by itself didn't really give any new quantifiable feats for Goku.

Oh ok, I was under the impression that this was a community DB.

Its both
They just did the Community thing today

Which Mechagodzilla? If its Kiryu Dragonzord stands a chance if Kiryu starts freaking out.

Ed dosen't need to get close

Ultraman also hefted the book and Ultraman is Superman's equally powered anti-matter opposite.

He does, he needs to physically touch Aang to use destruction on him

well if Ben's twitter poll is anything to go by
twitter.com/BenBSinger/status/1029098994805354502

>implying that's the only infinite feat he has

>The big announcement is that Kon vs Gohan is an animated DBX and Mechagodzilla is fighting Dragonzord

AHAHAHAHAH ROUND 3 FAGS BTFO!

What did I say? Dumbass retards thinking they were actually going to do Superman vs Goku 3! AHAHAHAHAH GET FUCKED!

Cringe and bluepilled

You'd think that scene at the end of Goku vs Superman II would clue fanboys in.

It's done. Fineto. Finished. Goku

Dude, I'm actually glad we're not getting Round 3
Sucks to be a Power Rangers fan though
t. /prg/ user
Maybe the ASJ/JDF fags will post Dragonzord's destruction for shitposting purposes

that one guy's suggestion that it should just be a Mechagodzilla Battle Royale should've been the best way to do it
well at least we know what Ben meant by Kaiju fight

Based and Superpilled

Honestly yeah, it should have been a mechagodzilla fight and they should have used it as a warm up for a Godzilla battle royale.

There's a LOT of battle royales they need to get to.

So since Power Rangers are going to be the first to hit the 0-3 club what do we call it? The Morphin' Grid?

The only things Dragonzord has had in the past few years that could make stand sort of a chance are comics feats where it rockets to the moon and scaling to the Megazord where it held up the Cayan Tower of Dubai with some minor help from the Dragonzord (the writer intended it to be the Mega Dragonzord but the artist messed up) and Alpha-1 who survived a planet exploding (but we don't know if he was in a ship or not) albeit in very critical condition

How strong is composite mechagodzilla?

Forgot to mention that I don't think it'll be enough though
Especially the Alpha-1 shit possibly raising an eyebrow so unless they compare the Megazord Tank Mode fucking up Alpha-1 to a similar state as he was after dealing with an exploding planet, he's boned (probably still if they did count that)
I don't think it'll be that considered because again, we don't know how protected Alpha-1 was when we went there to begin with

For one, we takes the height and weight advantage no matter what even with MMPR's inconsistent height and weight (Americans do not understand how weight works)
Weapon advantage goes to him as well due to sheer variety of arsenal, including an Absolute Zero cannon that should one shot the Dragonzord
Can also fly at Mach 5, Dragonzord can only rocket to space, we've never seen it actually fly the same way as MechaGodzilla

*it takes

Correction, it was a moon

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Absolute Zero Cannon takes it. Dragonzord doesn't have a weapon that powerful.

>Alpha 1 used to be this powerful
Ai Yi Yi what the fuck?

Nigglet

Alpha-1 != Alpha-5

problem is that the cannons take up a massive toll on MechaGodzilla
still should be enough

>SIC SEYAH about to eat shit again
Based Death Battle. How do they constantly send overrated trash to the Oxygen club?

Well okay. Overrated trash and Mega Man.

>Oxygen Club
Gokuck
Shadow the Edgehog
Carl Manvers
Charizoomer
Mega Man (You don't belong here, I'm sorry)
SIC SEYAH (Pending)

*Sic Hiyah

If we're counting franchises,

Power Outtages (if Dragonzord loses, they're the first in the 0-3 club)
Soul Cuckaber

SAY-SAY AHH
SO-HIYAH-AH

If its Showa, Dragonzord could win
If its Heisei, Dragonzord is fucked
If its Millennium, depends if Dragonzord has at least some way to counter the Absolute Zero cannon (maybe one of the later combinations has a shield, I dunno)
If its composite, Ben what the fuck are you doing?

If they did a Macross fight, would they lean with Robotech continuity or Macross continuity?

Also Han Solo vs Indiana Jones was considered but rejected
Rematches are probable but not gonna happen as often as people hope

I think the only thing DragonZord has going for him is how Tommy and Dragonzord are separated so Tommy can bust through the cockpit and fuck shit up

>Second Godzilla franchise death battle

DON'T FUCK THIS UP PLEASE

Isn't the very nature of possibly compositing MechaGodzilla already sort of fucking it up even though it'd mean an easy win?

I meant having Dragonzord win

So where was it announced?

RTX 2019
There was no stream this time, everything's just going by comments who saw it
Only thing Death Battle publicly announced was that Kon vs Gohan is a voted DBX

Composite is a fucking nightmare. Just imagine all that weaponry. It would be like the super robot version of Gundam Heavy Arms.

Fucking why? It's a great fight!

It's deconfirmed.

that and from a research stand point the contradicting origins, designs, whatever the fuck its made of, etc
Its not like Lara Croft where you can assume one could do what the others can do

>Finger, shin and toe missiles
>Maser canons
>megabuster
>plasma grenade
>garuda
>paraylisis missles
>drill
>energy and physical blades
>eye lasers
>chest lasers
>forcefield

And there are probably a lot I missed

where?

read the thread
the Gohan vs Kon build up was for DBX not for Goku vs Superman 3

Absolute zero canon. Not like Mecha needs it though.

Putting Dragonzord against compositie is a fucking joke.

>Dragonzord: Some chest missiles

>Mechagodzilla: ARSENAL DUMPS

It's not a contest.

I thought you were talking about dragonzord vs mechagodzilla

I'm not trying to make this into Dragonzord's favor...but I think if Composite is in I think this would be fair to even the odds

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A lot of characters can beat one of Darkseid's mortal vessels. If they make him fight his "I'm my own universe" shit, there's not much to do to him.

I've been following the comics since they started (well except for Bennett's run)
Dragonzord Battle Mode has no notable feats yet and its only addition is a crest laser that doesn't do much and a drill spear.
The Dragonzord itself doesn't have as much measurable feats despite the focus on Tommy so at best you have to use scaling.
Scaling to the Megazord for lifting the Infinity Tower of Dubai and scaling to Alpha-1 barely surviving an exploding moon and being put in that same critical condition after being blasted by the Dino Megazord in tank mode.
On the surface, you can use the Dragonzord rocketing to reach escape velocity to give it a speed advantage but then you have to consider that it didn't fly the same way Mecha Godzilla did and its rocketing was propelled by its finger cannons so chances are, it can't attack in that state.

>HEY KAZUMA

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If Tommy didn't just teleport to kill Zechs in Epyon, he's not gonna ditch the Dragonzord
Hell, even on his own he likely can't find a way to enter Mechagodzilla

If its Showa there's not a cockpit to teleport into and if its Kiryu taking out the operator won't do anything to stop it.

>Crest laser and a drill spear
Did they...did they reference the Sega Genesis fighting game?

youtube.com/watch?v=OYESt33wGDY
I miss Spoony

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