Is there anyone that can beat this motherfucker?, This dude is practically robot Darkseid

Is there anyone that can beat this motherfucker?, This dude is practically robot Darkseid

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>darkseid?
what

Ignore that multiverse Unicron crap, it was stupid.

There's plenty of different versions of Unicron, and depending on the version, killing him is pretty easily.

>Ignore that multiverse Unicron crap, it was stupid.
it's objectively one of the dumbest ideas one could implement that, in effect, aims to restrict the creativity of future writers.

Series such as Transformers THRIVE on reboots and reinterpretations. By trying to introduce a multiversal constant, you deny writers the ability to make intersting alterations or subversion in their iterations of the character.
I'm glad most writers completely ignore this idea, but it's annoying that some fans still hold onto it.

>t. retards who unironically liked "Unicron but good lel"

It is that poor man's Thanos from DC

how is either anything like unicron

isn't he robot galactus?

>Darkseid is poor man's Thanos
Listen here you little shit

Basically, but unlike Galactus, he's just doing it because he's evil. He also has heralds, though he doesn't "empower" them like Galactus, he normally just upgrades them but they aren't that much stronger than they were before the upgrade.

The thing is, he's changed so much that depending on the version, he's:

-A eldritch abomination that consumes everything, reducing the universe to nothing
-Just a giant robot Galactus that kills shit
-The Devil, to Primus God.
-Giant Robot Galactus that can infect creatures, or taint the souls of others
-Invincible super weapon created to kill all transformers

And so much more.

If I may do some fanfiction here, I like the idea of Unicron and Primus beign two names for the same entity. He devours worlds, mostly ones inhabited by organic life, and then creates new ones, mechanical like Cybertron.
Then the Decepticons would worship him as god, and Autobots would go all White Guilt and reject him for his destructive nature.

Canonically? Pretty much any matrix-bearer assrapes him with Stan Bush.

I pronounce it dark-seed, because dark-side is a stupid name. Don't @me.

>-Invincible super weapon created to kill all transformers
This one seems the best

He got defeated in his debut appearance so yes.

They should just make Unicron a god of chaos and destruction and Primus one of order and creation.
Both neutral and like forces of nature.

Yup.

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I bet your parents are related.

>robot Darkseid

robot dudes in an alley?

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umm those were kids in a subway, not dudes in an alley

>A eldritch abomination that consumes everything, reducing the universe to nothing
very cool
>Just a giant robot Galactus that kills shit
okay
>The Devil, to Primus God.
very boring
>Giant Robot Galactus that can infect creatures, or taint the souls of others
okay
>Invincible super weapon created to kill all transformers
very boring
>If I may do some fanfiction here, I like the idea of Unicron and Primus beign two names for the same entity. He devours worlds, mostly ones inhabited by organic life, and then creates new ones, mechanical like Cybertron.
somewhat cool

Didn't they retcon the whole 'all the unicrons are the same unicrons across the multiverse' recently?

Heck, one of them from one of the animated series was even pointed out to not be connected to the others.

How do you retcon a statement that is designed to always apply and override other factors (including logic)
You certainly can't do it in a way that satisfies retarded fans.

Also, we're talking about the franchise where apparently the War For Cybertron games are supposed to take place in the same universe as Transformers Prime, despite not being similar in any way whatsoever, so who the fuck can tell anything anymore.

Enter inside him like a germ and kill him from the inside.

Happened in the movie happened in Transformers Prime (kind of, they can't destroy him because he was the earth at the time).
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>The Devil, to Primus God
He's more of an anti-God to Primus. The Devil would be The Fallen, who is pretty small potatoes next to Unicron.

The concept of a singular being existing across multiple discrete universes originated with Unicron. Though historically, multiple different conflicting origins and fates had been detailed for the character in the original Generation 1 cartoon and Marvel comic, in the early 2000s, multiple works by Simon Furman introduced the idea that, in fact, there was only one Unicron, who travelled from universe to universe. Such powers were first suggested by the first Universe franchise, which was built on the premise of Unicron kidnapping Transformers from various universes, and Furman's comic established that he did this from a location between dimensions, the first time Unicron was shown to personally transcend dimensional barriers. Soon after, the Furman-penned "Worlds Collide" storyline in the Dreamwave Armada comic book and Transformers: The Ultimate Guide were published and made further mention of Unicron's dimension-crossing power, though they did not explicitly declare a single Unicron.

It was ultimately Hasbro copywriter Forest Lee who picked up that thread and used it to create the "multiversal singularity" idea, playing it out in the Fun Publications Cybertron comic. He established two different expressions of singularity: Unicron's, where there was only one incarnation hopping from universe to universe; and Primus's, where every universe had its own incarnation, but they were all connected. Lee also gave other characters similar pan-dimensional status, such as Vector Prime, who seemed to embody the Unicron model, and Vector Sigma, which was more like Primus. (This basically jibed with the Cybertron cartoon, which presented Vector Prime as able to exist after his death because he had previously spent a large amount of his life outside of the flow of time, which meant that he would therefore always exist in that timeless realm.) Following this story, the Fun Publications comic went on to introduce Nexus Prime, whom it presented in a manner consistent with singularity-hood: an ancient being whose component robots went on a cross-dimensional romp with nary a hint of encountering duplicate versions of themselves. As both Vector Prime and Nexus Prime are members of the Thirteen, their singular nature was implicitly extended to the rest of that group; Lee would later confirm the Fallen was also a singularity, and future Fun Publications stories clearly established that this was the case.

However, the concept never gained a foothold outside of very specific, fan-targeted media like the club comic, and any appearance by singularity characters in other media would invariably result in them not acting like singularities. The Fallen's appearance in the live-action movie that bore his name, for instance, bore only a superficial resemblance to the character's previous appearance. Devil's Due created a third origin for Unicron in their G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers comic, presenting him as an alien banished from his world. When the Aligned continuity family was introduced, and finally revealed the entire roster of the Thirteen, it was only with the caveat that this version of the story was unconnected to any past story.[1] This lack of top-down control of the concept required multiple out-of-story explanations for these events; Forest Lee delivered a particularly impressive explanation for The Fallen (see below), while in 2015, it fell to "Ask Vector Prime" to try and reconcile the others with talk of non-singularity expressions separated by quantum membranes.

Ultimately, 2015's Transformers Collectors' Club magazine story Another Light formally did away with the concept of multiversal singularities, splintering them into the standard infinite alternate selves that normal beings exist as.

Another Light is, broadly speaking, the culmination of every dangling storyline that the Transformers Collectors' Club has told since its inception in 2005, bringing everything to a conclusive, but open, ending. Set in the Shattered Glass reality, it is a "Shattered" version of The Transformers: The Movie that directly follows up on the BotCon 2012 comic "Invasion" and the 2013 club comic arc Beast Wars Shattered Glass, incorporating resolutions to the story of Nexus Prime and his search for the Star Saber, begun in the very first Club story back in 2005, and to the tale of Rarified Energon, introduced in 2007. Towards its climax, Fun Publications' 2015 TransTech Facebook story blogs even tied into the comic as its storyline evolved to affect the entire multiverse.

Departing prehistoric "Shatteredverse" Earth with the recovered Origin Matrix via an interdimensional portal, Ultra Mammoth and his crew arrive on the present-day Shatteredverse Cybertron and ally themselves with the native heroic Decepticons. This strange mirror universe has just recently become home to Autobot refugees from their home universe, the "Classicsverse", as well as the entire Classicsverse Earth, transplanted there to escape the destruction of the Classicsverse at the hands of the Shatteredverse Ultra Magnus. Soon, the heroes are forced to split into two groups to deal with threats that emerge on the two Earths.

Mammoth takes a team to the Classicsverse Earth to stop his evil counterpart's continued schemes. During Mammoth and Magnus's battle, Nexus Prime arrives on the last step of his multiversal journey and reclaims the Origin Matrix, which turns out to be the final piece of the fragmented Star Saber. Using the reformed Saber, Nexus banishes Ultra Magnus to another dimension, then uses the combined power of the Saber and the Terminus Blade to heal the damage Magnus's actions have wrought upon the multiverse. As a consequence of this strengthening of the walls between dimensions, multiversal singularities cease to exist, leading a "good" Unicron and an "evil" Primus to come into being in the Shatteredverse.

Simultaneously, Galvatron leads reinforcements to the Shatteredverse Earth to defend Decepticon City against an attack by Optimus Prime's evil Autobots. Rodimus interferes with Optimus and Galvatron's duel, allowing Galvatron to claim victory; then, as the Autobots flee back to Cybertron, Rodimus has Optimus's wounded body ejected from Sky Lynx. Optimus is found by Unicron and recreated as the heroic Nova Prime, and is then sent to Cybertron to dispatch Rodimus. Rodimus survives the assassination attempt, and is recruited by the evil Primus, who then transforms Cybertron into his body. Primus attacks the Classicsverse Earth, but the Rarified Energon hidden on the planet is revealed to contain the lifeforce of Gaea, long-forgotten sister to Primus and Unicron. Gaea teleports the Classicverse humans to the safety of another Earth in a parallel dimension, then transforms Earth into her body and destroys Primus in battle. Afterwards, Gaea transforms back into planet mode, becoming a new Cybertron that is jointly ruled over by the allied Shatteredverse Decepticons and Classicsverse Autobots.

Those sound like one of the original ideas they wanted to put into Lego's Bionicle franchise, with the creating god and the ultimate destroyer being two neutral sides of the same coin, only for Lego to shoot the idea down because they didn't know how to market it as a toy.

> *Deadpool 2 "You can't stop this motherfucker" song plays in distance*

>*teleports behind you and eats you*

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>On /co
>Doesn’t know who Darkseid is
Who let this lost child in here?

I never got just why the big robot had to be reinterpreted as some evil deity.

Big giant robot that consumed planets to power itself seems pretty straightforward enough that it does not need special extra fluff added to it making it into something more.

Just make him some ancient superweapon that kept on going after the enemy was eradicated, or maybe a factory bot that was meant to consume raw matter and work it into usable metals etc. Only now it's eating inhabited planets.

I always thought Unicron was just "too" big, to the point of not being the same kind of threat anymore.

Big robots showing up make the stakes higher. Like Devastator showing up meant shit got real since he was hug enough to kick anyone. Trypticon and Metroplex were both too huge for the regular bots to handle and no weapon was good enough to hurt them.

But then Unicron is so fuckhuge that it turns into a virus/body situation. He's too big to punch or brawl with anyone so it never happens. But at the same time he's too big to deal with what to him is microscopic sized infiltrators going into his body and ripping shit up. There really is no reason for him to be a humanoid robot since there is nothing for him to do as a humanoid bot in the first place.

my apologies

But that's his brother

The guy who wrote that backstory only saw the movie, so he came up with an explanation based on its context. The movie has a lot of mystical elements involving the Matrix of Leadership and prophecy and feels like a fantasy story that's only aesthetically sci-fi. Narratively, Unicron is treated as a legendary evil that a magic weapon is prophesied to defeat. Explaining him as an evil space god isn't really that weird.

Did Marvel RIP off the "unicorns head is a moon" thing for Knowhere? Granted there was a D&D setting in the 90s that did the "inside the floating severed head of a God" thing too

Those are all the same thing described differently. People like you are the reason the war department was renamed to the defense department

>There really is no reason for him to be a humanoid robot since there is nothing for him to do as a humanoid bot in the first place.
/m/ here, you suck

Perhaps he likes Galactus cloud as well.

I didn't know that.

desu I think I like the Armada version best, where he's literally just powered by negativity ,hate and conflict

He's right though.

In all the transformers iterations, they've never had Unicron get into a giant robot fist-fight with cybertron/Primus so what's the point?

He's more threatening in his planet form anyway.

troll detected

rodimus prime