Toonami Ratings for 6/28/19

Can I get a JUST?

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>We are at critical mass lads, can Food Wars save us?
In terms of ratings, no, probably not. But it will be a somewhat refreshing change of pace and the fanservice will be appreciated around here.
Also, Boogiepop and Others on Toonami soon

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I don't get it. Do Naruto fans just watch the fillers more because they've never seen it before?

Damn. Not even fanservice can save us now.

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Is there any cannibalism or food poisoning?

Reminder that One Piece is the greatest selling comic book of all time, WORLDWIDE!

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That’s what happens when you rush. I’ll do better next week

>0.06
Explain to me why MHA is being moved BEHIND this shit

PRE-TOONAMI RATINGS:
8:00p Dragon Ball Z Kai 249 0.08
8:30p Dragon Ball Super 253 0.09
9:00p Rick and Morty 338 0.15
9:30p Family Guy 448 0.20
10:00p Family Guy 548 0.24

POST-TOONAMI RATINGS:
3:30a Gemusetto Machu Picchu 144 0.07
4:00a Ballmastrz: 9009 145 0.07
4:15a Tigtone 129 0.06
4:30a The Venture Bros. 162 0.08
5:00a Aqua Teen Hunger Force 177 0.10
5:15a Aqua Teen Hunger Force 174 0.10
5:30a Home Movies 175 0.09

Because now it won't have to deal with MHA bringing everything after it down.

>we are at critical mass
>toonami is doomed
>the block cant recover
>we need more action so people stay tuned to the block
>actually they just care about dragon ball fuck fightfags
>we need more of that promised diversity
>nobody watches the diversity we get
>the block wont last [the subsequent year]

We have been in this state since trump got elected

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That’s actually supposed to be a 0.08

What is this supposed to be and what does it have to do with Toonami?

based ATHF still drawing the house at 5am

>femtom
oh what the fuck

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Current Series End Dates (accounting for marathons):
Dragon Ball Super - October 12, 2019
Attack on Titan - July 27, 2019
Sword Art Online: Alicization - July 13, 2019
Lupin III: Part V - December 14, 2019
Food Wars! - October 24, 2020
Black Clover - TBD
Boruto: Naruto Next Generations - TBD
Naruto: Shippuden - November 9, 2024
Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin - October 5, 2019
My Hero Academia - August 17, 2019

>august
why the FUCK couldnt AfO and OfA be the fucking finale of the fucking season?

Man not even FG can get those numbers up, cable really is dead.

I think those are just poorly drawn pecks. I'm sorry, user. You're gay.

TWO
HUNDRED
FUCKING
THOUSAND
LEFT after Super

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OP here, this is correct, they just updated the listing. That’s still terrible though

>Lupin is literally saving toonami
After seeing these ratings ehat will faggotman's next move be?

Reminder that this week is Anime Expo, so we'll probably get some news about the replacements for SAO and AoT in the coming days.

Anime adaptation get into this rut of hype shit being in the middle. Date A Live takes the cake for one of the worst finale episode seasons in a long time. The Origami arc didn’t quite fill out the season, so the last episode is some goofy shit rammed into one episode

>lmao just ignore the last 2 weeks where people avoided it
Dumbass

Finally, a block worth watching now. I admit that I stopped watching Toonami because none of the shows interested me. Food Wars, Lupin, and Black Clover back to back seem like a perfectly good way to end the night.

I wish Toonami got rid of Attack on Titan and Sword Art Online. I remember falling asleep midway thru an episode of SAO because they dialogue was pretty boring.

When numbers start dipping below 0.10 is when AS really starts to panic. It certainly doesn’t help that they have Gundam incoming which is its own ratings black hole

You are going to get your wish. SAO is shipping out in 2 weeks, and AoT will be out 2 weeks after that

High Dialogue and Low Action shows like MHA, SAO, and Promised Neverland are ratings killer. People wanna stay up all night to watch their favorite show, but be put to sleep by them.

How many episodes did AOT have? Are they making viewer episodes?

>some weeks there was nothing to look forward to until toonami
>after awhile that weeks gotten shorter somehow
>still looked forward to toonami
>see this numbers
>looks like sub 200k is a thing now
>look at pre and post toonami numbers
>not looking any better
>cable will die in my lifetime
i have two options:
kill myself before cable does
or get used to a post-cable world

what the fuck to do

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It's a good show when you just want to lay down and watch characters fucking around and bantering.

Carl's House is way too comfy than it needed to be. How the fuck is he able to afford all that stuff?

>get used to a post-cable world
2004? If you still haven't accepted torrenting, or hell even streaming, by now you're a lost cause.

Food stamps or some kind of money provided by the government, maybe? I've never seen the man work in the show.

Carl said he worked out of the home in the first episode, and other episodes show him making money thru sports gambling, working with the mob, or that factory job he had.

>Low ratings

Aren't these ratings determined by a bunch of old people who punch a button on their TVs?

Only 10, it was a rush job. It’s only getting one more season after this, but that’s deep into next year

Carl works outta the home

No. It’s an averaging system

>all that stuff
Carl’s house is pretty baron of furniture and shit.

His bedroom seems to be the only place that has the most stuff.

>Toonami Facebook page has yet to make an official promotion for the new schedule
Think they are considering walking back the MHA shift?

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didnt he have a sex machine or something? surely those were not cheap back in the 00s

Cable will live but they will have to stop being greedy jews about the price and cutting scenes to fit more commercials. Toonami has lost about twice the number of viewers as other stations though just because of retarded decisions

>still in shock about Ami
i fapped so much in that one week
there are also so few pics of her
i even just searched emotionless_sex and red_hair just to fill the gap

and then this weeks episode happened. fuck

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>I was kidnapped by child pornographers when I was little
>I have never had sex before
Yeah ok.

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what if it is reverse something or another
>make an uproar to cause uproar
>raising go up

Fujiko is the greatest good in Lupin. It's madness to expect one-two episode characters to surpass her.

She could have just used her mouth.

Toonami viewers are brainless
>they took pictures
>BEFORE they sold me they found out about my programming skills and took me off the market
Are you also upset that crystal meth makers may not do crystal meth themselves?

Nobody cares about MHA.

I'm struggling to understand why kidnap Amy for porn vids, when Fujiko is a much better prize. Then again, I'm not sure of New Lupin does episodes where she gets kidnapped and stripped naked by the badguys.

her breasts were underwhelming in WcFM tho

Honestly i wouldn’t put it past them. The way they presented the new schedule felt kind of strange too

Considering all the backlash they are getting for the move, someone does

>why didn’t they go after a big tit bimbo that are a dime a dozen on any porn site
They were catering to a black market that pays a premium is the answer

Nobody gives a shit about Deku. Tsuyu, Momo, Bakugo, Ochako, Endanvor, All Might, Mina, Mt. Lady, and Midnight are the biggest draws.

Absolutely disgusting, The Black Market has shit taste and deserves to be destroyed by Zenigata

No criminal except Lupin and anyone directly working with Lupin can escape the wrath of Zenigata

Just like all the backlash for JoJo, right?

this is the worst toonami lineup since 2015

Well, Jojo got moved back up, so if MHA moves up, then we know it was comparable

>Nobody gives a shit about Deku
No one really mentioned him or any of the other character but whatever

>less than 3 years ago we were pulling 1.2 million at midnight
well at least the ratings haven't decreased THAT much since last year

>Demarco has stated that if they get enough angry hatemail on Facebook and shit, it might influence them to readjust the schedule and move MHA somewhere that isn’t retarded.

They better not. MHA is exactly where it belongs.

>haven’t decreased that much
Because they are essentially at their floor now. If they go any lower than this AS isn’t going to be able to just keep ignoring the issue

Reminder that regardless of what you think of Food Wars, BASED Sentai was promoting Toonami within an hour of the announcement. They are a good ally to have on our side again

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>"Hunter X Hunter" Ratings Retrospective

>Regular Run
Average Rating: 543,093
Highest Rating: 1,086,000 Ep. 8 on June 11, 2016 @12:30am
Lowest Rating: 186,000 Ep. 135 on June 29, 2019 @ 3:00am

>Marathon
Average Rating: 858,857

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>lost exactly 900,000 viewers

OH NO NO NO

>"The Promised Neverland" Ratings Retrospective

Average Rating: 370,167
Highest Rating: 506,000 Ep. 1 on April 13, 2019 @ 12:00m
Lowest Rating: 242,000 Ep. 12 on June 29, 2019 @ 12:00m

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Here’s what I have pulled from the AX schedule that could be Toonami related

Aniplex
>July 4th 6pm - Aniplex Industry panel
>July 6th 7pm - Demon Slayer special event
>July 7th 1:30pm - Bunnygirl Senpai limited seating English premiere

Viz
>July 5th 2pm - Viz general panel where various announcements are slated
>July 6th 3pm - Jojo panel

Sentai
>July 5th 10am - Sentai industry panel (“special announcements” teased)

Realistically, all of these could lead to nothing. But we are still short one show announcement, and SAO ships out in 2 weeks, so chances are high that something on this list will tell us something.

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>Considering all the backlash they are getting for the move, someone does
It's not from people who actually watch it. Most of the shows in here are just status symbols. They've heard about the schedule change and are just complaining about its treatment, not that it ruined their viewing time.

They don't release new schedule promos until the day of.

>Anime Expo
So I need to stay away from Yea Forums and maybe even Yea Forums until it blows over. Why is Bang Zoom so shit /tg/?

The style was hit or miss in general.

>Nobody cares about MHA.
They cared enough that Fagitman had to tell people to start asking him about it. And Pr-Flight was filled with questions asking about it.
Yeah? Because they pushed it back up after people complained about it
>It's not from people who actually watch it
Literally nobody can prove this.

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Who cares? Food Wars is awful

>move the start time of the block
>don’t promote it
And they wonder why they can’t hold an audience

Demarco can, as can anyone who works at AS. He LITERALLY says in that tweet that he recognizes a bunch of fags bitch about shows but don’t watch them

>Demarco can, as can anyone who works at AS
How?

You need a fucking Nielsen Box to be counted for the ratings you fucking retard. Most people in the country don't own one. SO unless they have spy cameras in every house in the US they literally can't know who's watching and who's now.

All TV networks have a bunch of other internal analytics to base their decisions on

>
>hurf durf I don’t understand how Nielsen works
I’ll bet you think 549,000 box owners watched Super this week

>All TV networks have a bunch of other internal analytics to base their decisions on
No they don't.

Three days later, and I'm still amused that we're going from Human Cattle to Food Porn.

Demon Slayer is one of their huge titles right now, and the timing is just right so I'm betting on the dub premiering on the block as soon as SAO ends.
As soon as that wraps up, the second season of Alicization will be far along enough in Japanese for them to air the dub almost immediately.

Jojo's getting its own panel like it did last year just smells like they've got something special to announce.
If Viz actually has a dub for Part 5 in the works I can see it airing right after Titan is over.

The only thing I care is that Spike is translating R;N and not another fucking S;G Spin-off

Trouble is, the Demon Slayer panel description didn’t mention anything about a dub or special surprises. Compare that to the Bunnygirl one, which specifically notes it’s dub premiere. Not that I think they would choose that, but it’s harder to predict these days so I’ll included it

Same thing applies to Jojo. It’s not a part 5 panel, it’s a Jojo general panel (it even uses Stardust Crusaders art for the promo). Viz has never ever turned a dub around that quickly, so it would be a huge reveal if they do announce it

>when your boss forces you to air a show with heavy fanservice
>when your boss deathslots your favorite anime before it even starts so the fanservice show can air earlier
>when Funimation won’t give you S4

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Where does it say "dub premiere" for Bunny Girl Senpai? They say it's an English premiere, but I think they just mean English-translated/subbed. As for Demon Slayer if they do have a dub planned they'd definitely want to keep it as a surprise, so I've got my hopes up.

Last year the Jojo panel was also a general one, and then at the end they announced the Part 4 dub on Toonami. Since they're doing the same thing this year I figured it would go the same direction.

But you're definitely right that this would be the fastest dub they've ever done, so on one hand it would be huge, and on the other it just doesn't sound possible. They're more likely to have One Punch Man S2 dubbed and ready instead.

I liked it, going to start reading the manga now.

Adult Swim doesn't care what anime fans think. Anything that isn't Big O, Cowboy Bebop, or FLCL gets the finger from them.

Adult Swim hates anime

I don't blame them. Most anime is a ratings abyss and they have to have a personal liking to a show in particular to air it.

Oh nevermind then, forget the Bunnygirl one entirely, that’s what I get for being a speed reader

And I can see their reasoning. But it seems incredibly counter productive to act in a manner that you hate anime, while also paying out the ass to air anime. Anime which you are currently upset is not pulling an adequate audience

Good luck running across any anime fan who knows Outlaw Star and the 1960's or the 80's Astro Boy series.

That’s an exaggeration user. Toonami is about on pace with the rest of the cable’s decline.

Have you seen what shows get on SyFy and Comedy Central lately?

Adult Swim hated Anime ever since the early days when they had Inuyasha.

Toonami decline is well beyond other networks m8

I wonder how much of it is due to Demarco trying to get the word of mouth hype for these shows, and how much of it is Crawford not wanting to advertise the block because he knows Cable is dead

Hero into Super: GAIN 28.3%
Super into Titan: Lose 43.7% ALMOST a record
Titan into Neverland: Lose 21.3%
Neverland into SAO: GAIN 3.3% I feel like a sword golem is jumping the shark
SAO into Lupin: Lose 13.2%
Lupin into Clover: 10.1% Ironic that a tournament arc kills a shounen
Clover into Boruto: Lose 5.1% SUB-200 ALERT
Boruto into Naruto: Lose 13.0% Nobody returned after seeing armadillo dong last week
Naruto into Hunter: GAIN 15.5% This calls for Hikaru no Go

Current Records:

Loss:
12/08/18: Super into Psycho: Lose 45.4%

Gain:
11/24/18: Boruto into Super: GAIN 54.8%

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Quintella's tits are the one thing saving SAO at this point. Attack on Titan is shit because it's all about talking.

i think toonami could still have a niche if done right

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sentai and viz are real bros, i always try to pick up some of their dvds every few months

funi can suck it tho, they always want way too much

HxH was the only good show on this block

Don’t forget Demarco’s back to back garbage pickups

False.

The trick for stuff like that is they are paying almost nothing for the shit they air. If Toonami didn’t have to get assraped by distributors for each show they get, they could do that too

Hearing that Food Wars is the new show took so much energy out of me. Just one of those shows where absolutely nothing appeals to me.

>nothing appeals to me
So you are gay then

wait a second that was 12? so that was the last episode last week?

that was fucking awful

>talking and gay undertones is good
Wrong. Food Wars is a million times better in comparison

Thanks for this, Ratings Retrospective user. Also, HxH holds the title for the most shifted around show on the block. It held just about every slot except for 3:30.

Interesting; looks like newer Toonami shows really do peak at the first episode, barring some unique exception. Too bad; I was starting to get invested in TPN about halfway through.

Oh right, here's last week:

10:30 My Hero Academia 424 0.17

11:00 Dragonball Super 581 0.27

11:30 Attack on Titan 349 0.16

12:00 The Promised Neverland 274 0.13

12:30 Sword Art Online: Alicization 286 0.13

1:00 Lupin the Ratings Black Hole 234 0.12

1:30 CHAD Clover 256 0.13

2:00 Boruto 225 0.12

2:30 Naruto: Shippuden 210 0.11

3:00 Hunter X Hunter 189 0.10

Never expected to see BC lose to Lupin this soon; well, it was bound to happen. More concerning is this week's numbers - this is pretty bad. Ironically, HxH beats both Boruto and Naruto with a rerun. No idea what can save us at this point, speaking honestly. We have two more shows bailing off of the block in the next month or so; I'm expecting crap, but you never know.

if demarco was willing to air shit from pre 2012 and/or hunt down the rights holders for a ton of obscure stuff im sure he could get deals

Old shows that don't have discs in print are NEVER cheap. Because the tv airings are literally extra advertising that someone literally pays you to do for them.

It took Netflix tier money just to salvage Eva, and even that was a hack job to pull it off. The anime market simply is not worth it

Thats the problem Toonami has. They are paying distributors for the privilege of advertising their BDs.

a lot of retro shows that were originally on Toonami have been redubbed recently like Sailor Moon, Robotech, and Saint Seiya its a good opportunity to put up a retro block at the end of the schedule

Once we get more slots, there should be a two-hour portion where there's ONLY shows less than 26 episodes. Get back to making hits, not just airing them!

But nobody wants to watch old trash. Plus Sailor Moon everything is Hulu exclusive

I feel like they are halfway there on Food Wars. It’s long, but it’s also not just some hot off the press BD commercial like most shows.

Robotech and Saint Seiya aren't trash, people might want to watch older anime like Yu Yu Hakusho and Tenchi you never know.

>Get back to making hits, not just airing them
Isnt that what the terrible FLCL sequels were attempting?

aw yes i been waiting for a real sequel to cowboy bebop where its just jet and faye searching for spike

I can't believe that Biccy lostto Lippy

All things Tenchi is a no go because of gxp.

Kinda, but they misread the market on that one. NO ONE wanted a FLCL sequel; if anything, the posters here expected it to fail.

A more accurate example would be BC, since people clowned it initially, but then it became one of the more popular shows on the block.

>11:30 Attack on Titan 309 0.15
Man, if it's this bad now, that doesn't bode well for the final season which will be 90% talking and they don't even fight titans anymore.

lupin stole the slot
then he stole chadsta's ratings

what will this mad man steal next!?

ami's virginity

Based Boogiebro

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>Food Wars
It's like they finally realized everything will tank at this point

So why do they keep playing it when no other TV network will touch the stuff?

Damn,really? This season was restoring my hope.

how fanservicy is the fan service on Food Wars? I need to figure out my fapping schedule even more now.

Do I start saving on thursday now to nicer meatier loads
or do i start saving on friday and space out the faps on the block
also how much water to drink is another factor

He means taking shows that already exist and making them more popular, rather than just following fads

If you knew for sure that Toonami was going to die within a year no matter what and you were in charge of scheduling,what would you go out with? The only limit being basic standards and practices shit.

Apparently, there's a timeskip, some intrigue, possibly some Titans being thrown out of a blimp, something known as Grim Reminder 2.0, and no idea beyond that.

This is all from a casual observation on Yea Forums, so take it with a lot of salt.

It’s by far the most fanservice heavy show Toonami has aired. However, it’s also a Jump series, so it’s not that crazy

If you could fap to any of the previous shows then you can fap to this. Don't expect censored nudity though, there is no real nudity. It's super softcore ecchi-tier.

old dub sailor moon
not-kai dragonball (airing at least 2 episodes a night around midnight to get through it)
kenshin
outlaw
other classics like bebop, eva, etc

if i can fap to just the idea of ami laying there looking trying to calculate the odds of getting pregnant on her tablet i can probably beat it to some gyaru in an american flag bikini

Madagascar Jews Devil Deal WW1 Secret Of Matter Living Death Sentence. Or something like that.

>Attack on Titan is shit because it's all about talking.
imagine being this much of a casual

>A more accurate example would be BC, since people clowned it initially, but then it became one of the more popular shows on the block.
I don't even think Jojofags were this delusional.

How else would you explain (barring this week) it's pretty good run so far, other than it being relatively new? It has a fanbase that isn't reliant on memes they saw years before it aired in America.

>that doesn't bode well for the final season which will be 90% talking and they don't even fight titans anymore.
did you actually read the manga? 50% talking is more accurate and it's good dialogue, so what's the problem?

What good run? Its done decisively unexceptional since it started why to do think its retarded fanbase gloat over it doing better than shows that has never done well.

What's with all the retarded AOT shills in this thread? The series time in the limelight is over.

>50% talking
That's still too much for people who just want cool fights and mindless action.

>Robotech
>No trash
Watch Macross and say that again

8pm: real adventures of jonny quest
830: thundercats (original series)

1030 and 11: Z with the Faulconer soundtrack
1130: yu yu hakusho
12: samurai 7
1230: kikaider
1: Outlaw Star
1:30: Tenchi trilogy
2: Cowboy Bebop
230: Parasyte
3: Hellsing

Are the non-tit parts of food wars entertaining?

>That's still too much for people who just want cool fights and mindless action.
I wonder how these people even watched past the first season

No

>get a golden ticket to do basically anything
>air the same old dreck from the old days so Toonami goes out with the meekest whimper possible
I forget how stupid these thread are sometimes

>The series time in the limelight is over.
>When ever since season 2, the series has been actually getting good and having amazing character development
>When literally every time a episode aired, everyone got blown away by the story
Sure it's not as popular when it first aired but the series is better than ever and it's finally more than just visuals.

which macross?

you might get a kick out of some parts, there's elements of school hierarchy and cooking infodumps

The late-1990's to early-2000's for Toonami were very kino to me. Those were fine times.

So much so I subbed to viz's shitty manga service so I could read the manga as it comes out. Course I watched the animu when it was simulstreaming so I contributed nothing to it's toonami rating.

I'm surprised Lupin even got moved to a earlier slot. But goddamn, what did MHA do to deserve that?

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>Food Wars joins next week and everyone is talking about it
>no one even mentions Gundam comes the same night

Unless you're a Nielsen person or the type to tweet about shit, you wouldn't have contributed even if you watched.

Got dubbed by Funimation who won’t let Toonami have S4

Gundam was announced over a month ago. Food Wars was announced on Thursday. But yeah ... people don't care about Gundam The Origin.

Macross super dimension fortress, the original and the one that robotech is "based" about

It was doing pretty well before it got (undeservedly) moved to 1:30.

wait really? why would they do that?

you still have a budget and have standards and practices

funi loves hulu now

welp, back to piracy we goes

They likely will let Toonami have season 4, but not the premier, and not even exclusively. They have a deal with Hulu to let them stream it after it premiers on Funimation's own service, and Toonami likely was given a similar offer to Hulu, and that's probably what rankled Demarco, being treated like just another second banana platform begging for their table scraps.

Time was Toonami had zero competition for it's niche, but now competition is stiff, so licensing companies like Funimation that once would have done backflips with joy to get their show on Toonami now have all the bargaining power and are starting to see Toonami as unnecessary.

This doesn't mean they'll stop doing business with Toonami, only that the nature of the business will change. Namely, Toonami won't get preferential treatment over streaming platforms by getting premiers first, won't get exclusive rights to a show, will basically have to take whatever they give them. This is cause Toonami has shown it can't pull numbers like it used to, it's audience is increasingly irrelevant.

A good example of MHA. The show is one of Funimation's biggest hits, it's a huge revenue driver for both them and Crunchyroll, it's popular on social media. Yet it can't pull numbers for shit on Toonami. It makes no sense as a business decision for Funimation to give Toonami exclusive access or premier rights to the show when it performs much better on their own service and on streaming services that their primary audience actually uses.

Wait, you weren't pirating anime? Why? Who actually pays to watch it?

You realize you can read manga for free right?

It’s done great it’s entire run. Shitposters just stir the pot that if it’s not outdoing Super then it’s doing shit

I watch it on Toonami

>the only limit being standards and practice
Illiterate too I see

AoT is actually pretty damn good. I wasn't a fan of the first season because it seemed so one-note and predictable and like it had milked all the possible drama it could out of the premise, but season 2 opened up the setting and showed surprising depth of character and world building ideas. Season 3 has been all around fantastic, with the second part in particular being easily the strongest.

What’s the point though? Demarco is bitching that people don’t turn out for MHA. That’s obvious because of its long time availability to stream. So why even bother with S4 and beyond if they are gonna be in the same boat?

11:00 - Yu Yu Hakusho
11:30 - Scryed
12:00 - Toaru Majutsu no Index (subbed)
12:30 - Birdy the Mighty: Decode
1:00 - Bakemonogatari (subbed)
1:30 - Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei (subbed)
2:00 - Gunbuster (subbed)
3:00 - Kino no Tabi (subbed)
3:30 GitS: SAC

Mix of my favorite nostalgiabait series from Toonami/ASA, plus some of my all time favorite series that would never be picked up due to no dub or just not fitting the block at all.

For the shorter series I'd replace with shows on this list
>Konosuba
>Shoujo Shuumatsu Ryokou
>Fate/Kaleid, Liner Prisma Illya

YYH is kinda long, but a year would get through most of the good episodes, think we'd cut off in the dark tournament which is a shame but overall it'd be sweet.

Honestly I don't think it being a premier on Toonami would even bump it very much. I think the primary audience for MHA either doesn't have cable or has no interest in watching it on cable, and they'll just wait for the streaming services they use to get it.

Anyone else been watching MHA on Toonami but just gonna call it quits now? I don’t love it, and I don’t hate it, but it has engaged me for its time on the air. However, Demarco has another thing coming if he thinks I’m gonna sit through 90 minutes of Naruto and Gundam for something I’m not that invested in in the first place. Bed happens when the Clover credits roll now, I’ll catch the other few episodes of MHA on stream. I hear the end of this season isn’t all that amazing anyway

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Is MHA the Rosa Parks of anime?

Love Live in Toonami when?

>I hear the end of this season isn’t all that amazing anyway
desu the last 2 episodes are better than the slog leading up to them, but yeah it's nothing special

supposedly the manga has (finally) picked up but the school-related stuff just tanks the show's momentum imo

>air a food anime at 1am
What in the FUCK are they doing I make it a point to not eat shit that late. The food commercials are bad enough. Tell me this isn’t like anime Emril where they really get into the details, right?

>Tell me this isn’t like anime Emril where they really get into the details, right?
user it's all about cooking. They go balls deep into it, down to the chemistry. Expect to hear minutes-long recipe descriptions with extended visual metaphors, entire episodes devoted to preparing a single dish where new ingredients or surprise preparation techniques are given maximum flare. Exaggerated reactions to flavor that include but are not limited to: spontaneous nudity, hallucinations, involuntary orgasm noises, inexplicable reversal of attitude and opinions after having tried one bit of a dish. You will see gratuitously detailed plates of food, you will see chemical diagrams, you will hear words describing meat and vegetables you never would have thought appropriate or applicable.

Alright god damn it I’ll just order a pizza going forward. I guess I’ll just get fat, thanks Toonami

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Watching this show while it aired in Japan got me into a lot of different food I probably never would've tried otherwise. I like Indian food now, never tried it before watching this show.

We've been at this state since fucking 2013

>some weeks there was nothing to look forward to until toonami
>after awhile that weeks gotten shorter somehow
>still looked forward to toonami

Are you me? Because I've been noticing that the week goes by faster, once I know it, Toonami is on It doesn't help that I'm unemployed either.

Why are BC haters in such denial

>tfw unemployed
>tfw live with parents now
>tfw watching Toonami on their cable in my old room

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Looking back, I'm honestly surprised TPN started off with over 500k in ratings.

Well, that can be something for the following day because I don’t care how good it looks, I’m not cooking at 1am. Plus I’d miss the other shows

Emma is adorable!

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I wonder if anyone who watches Toonami actually pays for their cable

It had very good word of mouth since it had just aired in Japan a few months prior. A lot of that was likely people tuning in for the twist. It fell off a cliff when people realized how dull some episodes are

I don't get it, bros. I thought people loved MHA. Why are the ratings so poor and getting pushed to the back of the block?

>amazing character development
Kek
>When literally every time a episode aired, everyone got blown away by the story
Most people thought S3 was boring bracuse it adapted the weakest part of the story and by the time Part 2 came out only manga fans were left watching

That's incredibly fucking petty of him though. Every show on the block is suffering because of the streaming wars so why single out MHA? Better yet what was the point in getting Gundam The Origin if you're going to premiere it at 3 am?

Its not outdoing most shows period.
Every show does well after Dragonball. Who cares at this point.

>Why are the ratings so poor a
>second highest ratings of the block

A better question is why MHA is put to a higher standard than most?

Yes, this is one of those anime’s where it’s worth waiting a week, you don’t want to rush it from what we’ve watched

Food wars better be good

This, If anything why aren't people pointing out that Super and AoT has gone way down since they started?

Because it is supposed to be the next Naruto.

>I thought people loved MHA
Those aren't "people".

Similar to the idiots saying BC is doing well....shitposting.

There wasn’t. The schedule department isn’t going to let another Gundam kill the entire night so they shoved it at the end before even starting it

Nobody here expected MHA to do better than Super airing ahead of it. They did expect it to improve a little with a Family Guy lead, which it did. Apparently AS had way higher and unrealistic expectations for it though

Then why pick it up to begin with? Nothing about this current block makes any sense. Did FLCL 2 and 3 bombing make them go insane?

>Apparently AS had way higher and unrealistic expectations for it though
Have they not looked at the state of their own block?

That’s not the issue. If Funi isn’t gonna give up S4, there’s little reason for Toonami to maintain the MHA audience so they are just doing a burn off now. It also is a nice way to give Funi the finger

>Funimation: "Sorry, but Hulu is a better deal for the new season of My Hero Academia."
>DeMarco: "Well, fuck you guys then! I thought we finally rebuilt our trust after that Hellsing fiasco!"
>Funimation: "Maybe you can air it at a later date after it premiers on Hulu."
>DeMarco: "No! Fuck ya'll! Your second Golden Goose is going to the back of the block where it can die with its final episodes! Don't let the door hit your Dragon Balls on the way out! Motherfuckers!"

The schedule guys have nothing to do with Demarco and the acquisition team. Demarco is a fucking jackass who never learns his lesson and picked it up because it’s his favorite anime. The schedule guys had the new show cross their desk, let out an audible “yikes” and slotted it where it could do as little damage as possible

>Funimation: Don’t worry, Dragonball is our dub too, we will go ahead and just take it with us

Again that makes no sense since the show wasn't even doing badly and they're still cucked because Dragonball is carrying the block and they're still airing Black Clover so singling out one show by them doesn't answer anything since MHA will live on without Toonami. So thanks for the free advertisement Demarco.

I think AS is just losing their marbles right now as their entire network crumbles around them as the Fox support beam disappears

See probably see MHA being a hit everywhere else. So they experimented to see if they could conduct the same kind of energy by putting it on earlier. I wouldn't be surprised that it was moved up to show Funimation if S4 would be better invested on Toonami than on Hulu, and obviously that failed and they are now just sending it to its grave.

Man that is incredibly fucking petty. I could understand if it was moved backed to 1am but to push it from the front to the back in one month is incredibly jarring no wonder people are upset.

Why does DeMarco continue to work with Funimation when they clearly don't respect him nor his block?

It’s not about performance. It’s doing fine in its current slot (held about 80% of Family Guy), and it was a way better follow up to Super than AoT. It’s just about sending a message to Funi that Sentai, Viz and Aniplex content takes priority over their shit now

After Super ends in October BC will be the only Funimation show left pm the block.

Necessity caused from outside influence and old contracts. The last Funi show we had that had no outside influence was PTE

Well Viz is taking their sweet time and the only thing from Aniplex they're interested in is SAO. What would be a huge slap in the face for Funi is airing FMA or Baccano shows they lost the rights to Aniplex on Toonami.

Once Super ends, that's going to be it for Funimation shows, ain't it?

Sentai has a huge catalog though, and Food Wars has shown they are not averse to something that isn’t a dub premiere. So we are not reliant on Funi table scraps anymore

Clover will still being airing, and there will be one more season of AoT. It’s a toss up if Toei will care about the next DB series being on cable, especially with what a mediocre pull Super has become

Well BC but rumors are coming about that its taking a hiatus soon. They could air Fire Force but I doubt Demarco would want to come crawling back to Funi at leats until Viz finish dubbing OPMS2.

DeMarco wants the hottest stuff, though. And Funimation is the biggest licencing company that nabs them up.

Flip Flappers when?

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Super has, what another 6 months still?

It doesn’t matter what Demarco wants. Funi doesn’t want to be associated with a cable network, they want people paying for their stream service. The fact that they are settling on an older dub in Food Wars only makes that more obvious

A little under 4 months now. Dropping some marathon sped us up

>probably just gonna start skipping the last 2 hours of the block
I don’t dislike MHA, but I also don’t like it so much I’d sit through that much garbage to get to it, especially that late at night. I sure hope whatever they seem to be so confident in replacing SAO with actually delivers

>brand spanking new Food Wars promo airs twice during the night
>old Gundam Origin promo from last week airs more

Isn't it ironic?

Because it probably cost them more than the average show

Good thing Food Wars has gay service too.

What needs to happen now then is for them to just move on from it. Even if there is a huge outcry and whining on the FB page, they need to stick to their decision and not get season 4 if they can’t get it until later. It’s not going to do anyone any good to get it 3-6 months from now and especially a year from now. It’ll be the exact same situation as now. The people asking for it can watch it online when it comes out- they’ll be alright

I had a feeling that despite all the demand for it to air on Toonami, it would not be watched because they were episodes that had already been streamed and they wouldn’t be rewatched. They even stated it (and Mob) won’t be coming anytime soon- practically giving people a blessing up go ahead and stream it. But the demand persisted and they got it, it didn’t perform to someone’s expectations and they may not be able to air season 4 when it’s actually premiering.

Same boat here. There's really nothing to engage me after Clover, I'm not willing to sit through Naruto and Boruto to get there.

It did have a good run. It was regularly jumping over Jojo's numbers despite airing at the start of the worst time in the block.

It's the Naruto of this generation. It didn't rely on memes like Jojo and was a big deal. IIRC it had a very successful movie debut here in the States. So there's no doubt AS had a higher standard for it. But if it could only pull Boruto numbers, then it's underperforming for them.

Seriously, why are people asking these questions? It's common sense that expectations are higher for a star player than a benchwarmer.

Sometime around the 5th of Never.

I think they can air season 4 next year if they can get a reasonable deal on it (and poor ratings could help them argue for a lower price) and they don’t try to make it a headliner. If it will cost too much then no need to bother. They can cut their losses like they did with One Piece.

I don’t think it’s worthless to play given it competes fine with everything except Super and season 4 isn’t a huge commitment by itself but they have to curb their expectations.

I actually really like this season of AoT.

It was actually good

>It was regularly jumping over Jojo's numbers
Jojo never did well on the block so why is that an accomplishment? It seems like people just like to make shit up.

What the fuck is underpeforming when the block has lost most of its viewership in recent years? You can apply that logic to DB which has lost a ton of its viewership. Its seems lie people are just making up bullshit to justify AS decision to moving it while ignoring the fact its done better than every show on the block sans DB.

11pm: Dragonball Super
11:30pm: Black Clover
Midnight: Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
12:30am: Lupin
1am: Food Wars (I honestly don't know if this show is for fapping, or cooking)
1:30am:Sword Art Online

>Seriously, why are people asking these questions?
Because nobody, including yourself, have been able to give an accurate answer without ignoring the fact that every show on the block is underperforming by any standard. three years ago OP got cancelled due to low ratings because an average of 587k per week was embarrassing but now Super is doing below that. So what fucking "standard" does MHA have that AoT and fucking Super don't?

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Still shilling I see

My Hero Academia is underperforming because it has no place being on at Saturday Night. The show is made for weekly viewing during the day. Since Cable Execs and Parents are too chickenshit to air shonen, MHA gets stuck at night.

Demarco just don't know how to market anime to mainstream audiences because he's aiming for a very niche group.

Dragonball has lost a ton of it's viewership because the Tournament of Power drags on for too long. Everyone has seen the finale when it first aired and don't want to see Funimation fuck up the Jiren vs. Goku fight with their shitty dubbing.

I'm honestly surprised that they got Patrick Sietz to do Jiren's voice and they didn't give him a Black VA.

I doubt Lazzo gives a shit about Food Wars.

We're getting 2 shows this week and I'm not sure what gimmick to go for. I was thinking maybe "Past versions" since we're getting a Gundam past story (ie. Kid versions of characters, flashback designs, character designs from early versions of shows/manga)
Thoughts?

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Or Toonami in general.

Origins is Sunrise's next attempt at getting Western Audiences into UC so they can buy Gunpla models.

Too bad the West only like G Gundam because it was Rocky and every other pro wrestling storyline.

>Too bad the West only like G Gundam because
Wing is vastly more popular than G

I aren't getting more slots unless it's for reruns.

Because it's actually good and doesn't rely on mindless action to keep people's interest.

>Because it's actually good
KEK
>and doesn't rely on mindless action to keep people's interest.
Then why are the numbers for this season worse than the previous ones?

Wing has nothing going for it and I can't see people staying up to watch it. Americans don't care for the politics in scifi and often leans more towards Star Wars and Buck Rogers style of the genre than Star Trek.

Those rumors are always fake. I even saw where that one started on Twitter due to confusion

>Wing has nothing going for it and I can't see people staying up to watch it.
Same with G Gundam.

G Gundam has a robot Tournament and a romantic story going for it. Shit, Master Asia becoming a villain is written more like a pro wrestling heel than a bad guy.

What does that have to do with fucking anything you dumbass? Wing is vastly more popular than G in the Us and Japan

There's a kid who tries to combine squid and peanut butter. That's kinda poisoning.

Wing is popular because it caters to the fujo crowd with it's teen drama and romance.

You may not like it, but this is what peak ratings looks like

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1:00 Lupin the Third: Part 5 217 0.12

1:30 Black Clover 195 0.10

OH NO NO NO NO

>enter boring tournament arc
>lupin pulls ahead because of ami
oh user... user..

Because the Toonami audience doesn't want good shows with depth and character development; they want simple shows with mindless action.

How about doing chefs?

Because how many chefs are on Toonami? Like I thought of that but like...I can only think of Sugar man, Sanji, I guess Chi-chi knows how to cook...Most moms/wives can cook I guess? I dunno I doubt we'd get many tributes.

... food porn?
bebop had a few shots
yami ate on the shitter
titan has a few food scenes
im sure naruto had narutos somewhere
lupin sometimes brings in a food scene like ami sucking on a bag

To be fair, every scene in Attack on Titan is a food scene depending on your POV.

>Jojo j-just never did that well!
Cope

Casuals loved Titan back when it was new, dumbass.

Nobody gives a fuck about Gundam, so just focus on Food Wars

They don’t need more slots. They have plenty of openings incoming

Now post the last two weeks :^)

Big tiddies theme.

This is the easiest answer. Or just Toonami fanservice in general

That’s not the issue. AoT is trash, it just took people a season to figure it out. S1 did great on Toonami, so Toonami viewers being retarded isn’t the answer

>If Toonami didn’t have to get assraped by distributors for each show they ge
They use a fuckton of money to make original anime that is cancer, they have money they just aren't using it and DeMarco constantly cries about money problems.

Yea I can’t argue that. Now they have this Blade Runner shit that sounded like it might be ok until they announced the SJW staff

I give a slight fuck

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So who do we think will be the one to deliver at AX? Viz, Sentai or Aniplex?

Id care if Origin didn’t have an ugly art style

Here's the problem: I want fanservice, but I don't like Jamie's, Monica, or any of the shrill female VA's voice assaulting my ears.

Origins is much better in the comic. It has movie like quality without the corny acting. The CG Robots really ruin the anime for me

Would Anime be much better if Toonami hired Joe Pera, Tim and Eric, or someone with a good grasp on dialogue to translate these dialogue heavy Anime?

I feel like Adult Swim Live Action is much better at what TPN, SAO, and these high dialogue, low action shows are trying to do.

I always see those Svengoolie threads on Yea Forums. Seems like max comfy. Haven't checked it out though, since it airs during Toonami.

ME-TV is maximum comfy and knows how to market their old shows. Toonami is operated by smug anime fans who think they don't need mainstream viewers.

If you want a gag dub, sure.

this lineup is kind of bad for me, i dont watch SAO and MHA got pushed all the way back, but its whatever ill just record it and gundam and watch it in the morning.

Did they announce the staff? I was already excepting it though. Anything made or supported by America gets fucking contaminated with shit like that like a disease. I'm not even some outside source going "stupid burgers" or anything, I live here.

>muh block
MHA's fault is MHA's fault. You can't blame that on anybody else. Sure the block has been losing viewership because of streaming, but MHA was still brought in on the prospect that its fame could approach DBS numbers.

I just did in the reply above yours. The standards before aren't the standards now. MHA is given the boot because it's not performing up to the current standards that AS have for it. If the best it can do is Boruto numbers then might as well kick it out. Stop saying nobody has been able to give an accurate answer because you're not gonna be satisfied regardless. This is the same thing as Jojo getting its slot back, it still kept losing to fucking Clover, nothing changed.

>Demarco just don't know how to market anime to mainstream audiences because he's aiming for a very niche group.
This is the problem. The timeslot for Toonami isn't very convenient in the first place, and the vocal people online are the niche that Demarco is trying to target. But that niche group is just like the Dragontards, only watch the shows they want. Not to mention, they rope in the entire fanbase to cry about the deathslot, most of which don't even watch Toonami, because they're loud online.

actually, you know what fuck it, ill just power straight through it and watch the whole thing, skipping over the shows i dont watch, SAO and the naru/boruto duo. if only for the one time

Food Wars is Sentai so they shouldn’t be in it

There has yet to be a full announcement, but a handful of staff have announced themselves that they will be working (and ruining with their SJW crap) on it

SAO will be gone in two weeks so you won’t have to skip that for long

Till part 2 eventually ends up on the block

Yea, but we should have at least 6 months of reprieve, so that’s nice. Most of us thought this was gonna be a year long slog

Please don't get my hopes up like this user.

They won’t take Super, it’s basically over anyway and Toei has the final say. But they are going to make a huge push to Toei that the dub would be better served being exclusive to their service rather than going to Toonami to die

*the dub of the next DB TV anime.

Every line-up in comparison to the garbage 2016 one has been serviceable-good, The Naruto hour are the only shows I skip now. 2017 was the last time the block and packaging had any "soul", now it just feels phoned in

Nice try there, pal.

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Aniplex > Viz > Sentai > Crunchyroll in likelihood of making a Toonami related announcement.

Unless Viz wants to announce OPM season 2 or Golden Wind many months before they air, Aniplex seems most likely to announce something for Toonami at AX.

Sentai and CR are wild cards.

Aniplex and Demon Slayer almost seems assured

>just forget the first week where we lost to literally everything and the week after that where Clover destroyed us

>MHA's fault is MHA's fault.
How? It was a dub premiere and Demarco told everyone that they couldn't get it while it was airing in Japan which was the opportune time to get it.

>Sure the block has been losing viewership because of streaming, but MHA was still brought in on the prospect that its fame could approach DBS numbers.
There's nothing to support this, This is baseless speculation based on "if its popular elsewhere it'll be popular on Toonami" which has been proven wrong many times before.

>The standards before aren't the standards now
What the fuck are the standards now? If you're fucking going by the current standards MHA is doing well period. You literally have nothing to go by to say that MHA is doing worse than the current standards when you consider the average ratings of the block as a whole,

>MHA is given the boot because it's not performing up to the current standards that AS have for it.
seeSo mind telling me what does imaginary standards you're talking about because according to that its doing on par with what most of Adult Swim does.

>If the best it can do is Boruto numbers then might as well kick it out.
So you need to kick out everything on the block including Super since they're all doing below Boruto numbers

>Stop saying nobody has been able to give an accurate answer because you're not gonna be satisfied regardless
Because you fucking can't give an accurate answer
>MHA was doing below the standards of the block
This is false and you can prove it by looking at the ratings for adult swim and the block as a whole
>MHA was doing worse in the slot of the shows that preceded it
Also false. Remember how putting Naruto and Boruto before Super had everything below 400k in the ratings? How is MHA doing worse than that? Again everyone with half a brain knows the reason why its being putting dead last and the only people pretending otherwise is Demarco and people who hate it. Had they not been stupid enough to push it to last then there wouldn't be an uproar,

>Not to mention, they rope in the entire fanbase to cry about the deathslot, most of which don't even watch Toonami, because they're loud online.
This never made sense to me. Why the fuck would people who don't watch Toonami give a shit\ to begin with? You're assuming that everyone complaining about its moving to the deathslot were never actively watching it despite the fact that Demarco fucking encouraged people to bitch at AS and not to him and the fact that the Toonami revival MAINLY exist due to online input so now apparently those online don't matter anymore.

Not him, but he was right about that. Fans of a show getting it on Toonami is like a trophy or achievement to gloat about. Actually committing to watching it on Toonami isn’t something they want to do. We have seen this with MHA, HxH and Jojo most prominently, but it has shown in some nostalgiabait titles too. In those same tweets you are referencing, Demarco even flat out admits that they do recognize a lot of people who don’t watch the block think that the block is still obligated to treat “good” shows to a certain level, regardless of their performance.

All that aside, I do agree that it’s insane to think they are claiming MHA isn’t up to standards when everything but Super is MUCH lower. Toonami can’t have much gas in the tank if that’s the case. If they would just come out and say the true issue is they aren’t getting S4 and don’t care anymore, that would resolve a lot of this. We all know that’s the case

While we would all love for them to announce that, it would burn the bridge, so things have to be done hush-hush. I mean, there's a portion of us that had already seen MHA and barring some simuldub magic, will see it well before it shows up on Toonami. If people didn't want the move to happen, they should've been invested sooner or nagged Funi to at least have Toonami be three weeks behind Hulu.

What's annoying about this is they don't want to say anything publicly like this in case they still can get season 4 somewhere down the line. So even if they are being blocked by Funimation or they are charging too much for it, they don't want to say anything that will outright damage any relationship with Funimation either

I agree with HxH and Jojo since those shows did do well in the beginning but by the time MHA came in the block had lost a good portion of its viewership since then and since its inclusion no show has done as well as it, Boruto did well coming after Super and I agree that moving it to 2 am was harsh, Black Clover should have never moved to begin with. Its such a gamble with these choices since a lot of the block's biggest hits came during a time where the block was at peak viewership (AgK, OPM, Space Dandy) and it was easy to weed out the flops back then but now everything does relatively the same.

The time for them to have gotten it was when it first came out and Funimation was actually willing to let Toonami have simuldub premieres like they did with Dimension W.

But they instead decided to go with safer known properties like HxH. Gundam, OPM, and Jojo

I heard when MHA first started to take off in season 1 they wanted to wait and see if it wa going to remain popular or if it was a fad.By the time they were interested, it wasn't an option.

That's why you can't wait for something to be popular- you have to take a chance and help make it popular.

This point rallies back to what I said here; they should use TV to make hits; so many shows get slept on each season in Japan; take one of those and run with it, then you get a more eclectic audience as a result.

Isn't Funimation currently engaged in a lawsuit with Vic? Nothing about their practices suggest they're competent businessmen.

Who in America would watch Warau Salesman, Sunohara Caretaker, or Dr. Stone?

The problem with Boruto and Naruto will always be that ultimate Ninja is a better adaptation of the series than either anime.

DBS has decent food porn, what with Beerus and Whis having foodgasms too.

BC had some food shots
aishas dine and pass out on the floor
i think there was some scenes in AgK
a few of us would probably put mako's moms's meatball things up our butts

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It’s already burned, who gives a fuck? Maybe if Funi gets some more hate to pile on top of the Vic fiasco, it will drive them to change

>This is cause Toonami has shown it can't pull numbers like it used to, it's audience is increasingly irrelevant.

i sincerely doubt the audience watching anime on hulu or prime is that much larger. it's more that those services are willing to throw boatloads of cash at literally anything just so they can have more things to watch. toonami can only throw cash tied to ratings, while ratings are irrelevant to the other players

>A good example of MHA
toonami never premiered MHA
complaining about its numbers is like complaining about a seinfeld rerun's numbers. everybody who already really wanted to see it didnt wait for toonami to pick it up

probably because demarco overpaid to get it

>Dr. Stone
Bad example, that's a show that everyone's going to watch because it's another Jump anime and CR is shilling it hard.
Shoulda said Symphogear.

toei: put it on youtube, more kids there

They could hedge some of their bets by picking shorter tiltles. If it bombs, it’s gone in 12 weeks anyway so no big deal. While I welcome the fanservice, I find it insane that they are taking such a huge gamble on Food Wars when it has like 90 episodes. If it bombs, it’s going to be a cancer to the block for over a year

You don’t have to choose the most niche title of a season to make a point. There’s plenty of throwaway action and isekai every season these days that could stock the block for years to come. If Toonami can get people to sit down and watch Dimension W, then they have nothing to worry about

alright lads

how do we get comcast to re-add CN/[as] to the basic cable lineup?

That unironically would be the best place to put it

Come on guys just imagine it. I mean Super is almost over and they probably won't adapt the Broly movie.

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I don’t know why you think Super needs replaced by a long runner

This would actually be a pretty huge boost; when Comcast started to want an extra $10 for CN, the ratings started falling. When times are tough, cable is the first thing to go.

Early AX setup staff here, I saw promotional cards for the new show. its the dub premiere of Demon Slayer

Cool horseshit bro

Nice try. Aniplex doesn't start dubbing shows until they're over. SAO and Neverland's dubs were announced after their broadcasts were done

It’s Viz that waits, not Aniplex

Aniplex did turn TPN around in record time, so they have at least show initiative that they may change. Demon Slayer is twice as long, so they always could have started on the first half

That's true. Also didn't SAO III started airing on the block while it was airing in Japan ot am I mixing things up?

Maybe Food Wars is being aired because DeMarco and the rest know the block is on its way out, so they might as well air whatever the fuck now. Food Wars is not even a gamble, it's just a bad throw. I have no doubt the ratings are going to be abysmal. It's an anime about FOOD on a block that showers its viewers in ACTION.

Its a bad gamble since none of these non-action shows have worked out not because of the subject matter. Its what happens when you plague the block with little variety.

Demarco detests any kind of straight fanservice, so I’d say this one was out of their hands

Yea I’m pretty sure Toonami started airing it while it still had 5-6 episodes to go in Japan. So Aniplex absolutely will dub something before it finishes, and Demon Slayer is in the exact same window

Unless DeMarco is willing to potentially bomb his current viewership to add diversity to the block and gain a more open-minded audience that'll make the ratings for those kind of shows go up, we're stuck in this rut until cancellation.

Toonami General 2014:
>DeMarco will never air SoL
Toonami General 2019:
>DeMarco was always going to air SoL

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I guess the higher ups also got sick of the shonen shit. I bet Boruto was the final straw that broke the camels back with its ratings being weaker than Shippuden's despite being a newer show that was probably more expensive.

His current viewership is braindead Dragontards who won’t watch anything else, and a small handful of hardcore Toonami fans who will watch anything with TOM promoting it. They have backed themselves into a corner they can’t escape from

The 2014 one is right. Not one single person is saying Demarco ever intended to air SoL and other variety until last year when they admitted they were getting short on shonen and needed to branch out due to necessity

What the fuck is going to happen to the block once Super ends?

>they were getting short on shonen and needed to branch out due to necessity
>they still air nothing but shounen

DeMarco knew this was going to happen once he added Dragon Ball back to Toonami. When the block first got revived, he said he wanted it to not rely on Dragon Ball anymore, but went back on it and added Kai, and Super fucking sealed the deal. Airing them back-to-back at the beginning of the block utterly destroyed the block's viewership and brought in Dragonfags who don't watch much anime and drove away the people who actually wanted to watch more than battle shonen.

>200k people leave after Super
Now I want to see a drawfag to draw up a toonami crowd then 40% of them leaving after Super.

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It's either:

A. Super gets a rerun.
B. AS desperately starts getting all the anime they can possible get and hope one of them can fill in the shoes Super left.
C. There is actually another Dragon Ball project and Toonami keeps itself afloat long enough for it to EVENTUALLY be allowed to air on the block.
D. Toonami finally dies.

>dude tits lmao
This has never drawn a dime once and we have plenty of examples.

Is there a single anime out there that can pull Dragon Ball numbers?

Nope. MHA was their last chance and they blew it.

Best chance is OPM S2

So, are you enjoying the side trips?

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MHA was never going to draw numbers. The dub has been out and DeMarco told everyone to go watch it somewhere else before the possibility of them airing it presented itself.

Maybe the show could have gained some momentum if the dub premiered S4 - that's probably why they started airing it first on the block, but that opportunity is obviously off the table now.

Yeah they're okay I guess

>Boruto is a failure.
>MHA didn't meet expectations.
>Nobody gives a shit about Black Clover.

The Big 3 of the Current Year couldn't save the block. Unless there is another hot anime out there Toonami can nab, it's pretty much over for us.

You forgot Neverland which sunked immediately

Bleach, won't come close to DB numbers but the 1st episode alone would pull in the nostalgia crowd for a bit before fucking off.

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>Boruto
>Black Clover
>Big 3
Kek
Too bad Viz is slow as fuck, A new Bleach anime would do dynamite in the ratings.

its pretty much over for Adult swim and cable in general.

I will NOT go through long arcs of filler that happen out of nowhere during a canon arc. Maybe if by some miracle The Blood War arc gets adapted and Toonami is able to get and have its dub premiered, then I'd be on board.

>no cool bleach openings ever again
>will never hear/see this grace our senses in the dead of night ever again

youtube.com/watch?v=b9vIpu0kAbE

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THEY'RE

IN

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Might as well since Food Wars is on the block now. Though the show is almost 10 years old and the novelty factor is pretty much gone.

At this point just show some uncensored titty. Seriously.

There is a huge order of magnitude in difference between Panty & Stocking and Shokugeki no Souma. That's like saying Drawn Together is the same thing as Bob's Burgers.

What numbers was Chiller pulling when they cancelled that block after a week? I know the situation isn't really comparable but I'm still curious.

Demarco hasn't aired any SoL what are you talking about?

*2012

Apparently they didn’t realize that more would come down the line

Like sub-100k I think.

Rerunning Super will trigger D since Super has been rerunning all over AS since it started. If Super can only shit out 550k viewers as a premiere, it doesn’t have a shread of hope of working as a rerun

It's only the second highest rated show because it's bringing everything else down. 428k is not good, especially for something that airs that early.

None of those are current "big 3". Currently there's the big one (One Piece) and then everything else. Manga sales for WSJ have been steadily declining though, even One Piece readership has been showing fatigue now that the series is around 100 volumes long.

Except it has. Anime tiddy shows have always been the best performers. Watch Food Wars prove it

>It's only the second highest rated show because it's bringing everything else down.
How can it bring shit down when ratings get an uptick immediately after it ends?

see
I wish people would stop spouting bullshit.

The viewership numbers themselves were not the issue. From the first week, the second week lost 89% of the audience. Yes, 89%

Big 3 means popular n the west and Japan you fucking idiot.

Big 3 referred specifically to Naruto, One Piece, and Bleach, which were the three most popular shounen manga in the US in the 00s. It's not an official designation, it was just a way to refer to those three particular titles. Even back then there wasn't really a big 3, there was only a big 1, and it was One Piece.

People actually do give a shit about BC but Demarco refuses to promote it. It doesn’t solve the Super ending issue, but it’s show ratings strength where nothing else has

>It's only the second highest rated show because it's bringing everything else down.

>Hero into Super: GAIN 28.3%
>Super into Titan: Lose 43.7%

Wut?

>428k is not good, especially for something that airs that early.

>9:30p Family Guy 448 0.20
>10:00p Family Guy 548 0.24

Wut?

>People actually do give a shit about BC
A vocal minority on this board is not a crowd of people.

But no one in the west cares about OP.
It was always the odd duck of the big 3

>s. Even back then there wasn't really a big 3, there was only a big 1, and it was One Piece.
This is also not true since the term was made before OP got its big boost and before Bleach fell from grace.

>People actually do give a shit about BC
Where's BC?

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The ratings tell a different story every week, shitposter-kun

>The ratings tell a different story every week,
1:00 Lupin the Third: Part 5 217 0.12

1:30 Black Clover 195 0.10

Yeah it says people don't give a shit about BC

Well you're wrong about that. One Piece sells very well outside Japan, including in the US. It's just Toonamifags that hate it.

Did this really happen? Did Lupin actually beat BC?

The only good show was Korean zombie desk car anyway

I don't know what reality you're living in, but here in the real world One Piece was already a monster by the mid 00s, having sold over 100 million tankobon volumes by 2005. By that point, Naruto and Bleach were only middling successes in comparison, and One Piece was already carrying Weekly Shounen Jump. Starting in 2008 One Piece would top global manga sales per year, every year from then on.

There was never any parity between One Piece and the other "big 3" titles except for ignorant westerners that had no idea how popular One Piece was.

Because it's bringing Super down from what it was getting before, which in turn is bringing everything after Super down.

Look at the fucking OP, and notice how he just skips over the fact that it lost to Lupin despite gloating whenever it got rated higher.

What the fuck are you talking about? Super doing well or good doesn't effect the block's performance as a whole because Dragontards don't watch anything else its why there's always a huge drop after its finished.

Super's performance does not effect the block in any shape or form.

Superfags watch DB and leave, they have no impact on the rest of the block.

All that proves is that Adult Swim is in need of some major shifts in their lineup.

Almost this exact lineup was in the past decimating Toonami in ratings. Ratings are crashing hard because nobody wants to pay for cable anymore.

Dragon Ball has consistently determined the rest of the nights ratings for years. The higher Dragon Ball was doing, the higher everything else was doing. Want me to dig through the old ratings and prove it?

Call Tim and Eric to fix the block.

>Dragon Ball has consistently determined the rest of the nights ratings for years
No it fucking hasn't.

>Almost this exact lineup was in the past decimating Toonami in ratings
Yeah, and now it's not. That's why major shifts are in order.

>The higher Dragon Ball was doing, the higher everything else was doing.
10:30 Dragon Ball Super 893 0.45
11:00 My Hero Academia 601 0.28
11:30 FLCL: Progressive 546 0.27
12:00a Pop Team Epic 437 0.21
12:30a Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders 431 0.20
1:00a Hunter X Hunter 386 0.18
1:30a Black Clover 377 0.18
2:00a Naruto: Shippuden 379 0.21
2:30a Space Dandy (r) 287 0.15
3:00a Cowboy Bebop (r) 245 0.12
3:30a Lupin the Third: Part 4 (r) 247 0.13

Oh look the block still does shitty regardless

Now post last week and the week before

>manga charts
This is a Toonami thread. Post Toonami Ratings or post nothing

Definitely not wrong, haven't had consistently used cable since 2011-12. And not at all since 2016. I only pay for high speed internet nowadays and if it's something I really love, I'll eventually buy the DVD or Blu-Ray.

Yea it’s MHAs fault that AoT lost 43% of the audience this week

10:30 Dragon Ball Super 1098 0.52
11:00 Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters 923 0.44
11:30 My Hero Academia 720 0.34

Its kind of funny that DBZ Kai is a better lead in than Super.

>Dragonshit into Dragonshit
You’d think this would make the problem apparent to you. Dragonball is what kills Toonami because the people it draws will NOT watch anything else

11/8/14
11:30 Attack on Titan 835
12:00 Dragon Ball Z Kai 912
12:30 Naruto: Shippuden 808
1:00 One Piece 713
1:30 Gurren Lagann 591
2:00 Hellsing Ultimate 580
3:00 Space Dandy 472
3:30 Cowboy Bebop 470
4:00 Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood 477
4:30 Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex - 2nd GIG 484
5:00 The Big O 436
5:30 Samurai Jack 442

5/9/15
12:00 Dragon Ball Z Kai 1,403
12:30 Kill la Kill 1,145
1:00 Sword Art Online II 1,028
1:30 InuYasha: The Final Act 880
2:00 Naruto: Shippuden 866
2:30 One Piece 840
3:00 Attack on Titan 814

11/7/15
12:00 Dragon Ball Z Kai 1,684
12:30 Akame ga Kill! 1,447
1:00 Parasyte -the maxim- 1,250
1:30 Michiko & Hatchin 1,112
2:00 Naruto: Shippuden 1,099
2:30 One Piece 922
3:00 Kill la Kill 773

11/12/16
12:00 Dragon Ball Z Kai 1,346
12:30 JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure 1,041
1:00 Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans 895
1:30 Hunter X Hunter 781
2:00 Naruto: Shippuden 740
2:30 One Piece 645
3:00 One-Punch Man 577

11/11/17
11:00 Dragon Ball Super 893
11:30 Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters 730
12:00 JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders 577
12:30 Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans 564
1:00 Hunter X Hunter 531
1:30 Lupin III: Part IV 482
2:00 Naruto: Shippuden 459
2:30 Outlaw Star 386
3:00 Cowboy Bebop 358
3:30 Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex - 2nd GIG 340

11/10/18
9:00 Dragon Ball Z Kai 515
9:30 My Hero Academia 502
10:00 Naruto: Shippuden 513
10:30 Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 441
11:00 Dragon Ball Super 628
11:30 Mob Psycho 100 443
12:00 Attack on Titan 404
12:30 JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure: Diamond is Unbreakable 332
1:00 Black Clover 309
1:30 Hunter X Hunter 272
2:00 FLCL: Alternative 271
2:30 Pop Team Epic 245
3:00 Lupin III: Part IV 215
3:30 Samurai Jack 206

Toonami will never truly try variety. Variety in their eyes is shit like Gundam, Lupin and sequels no one ever asked for: FLCL.

>2014
>2015

Has nothing to do with Dragonball. The network/block weren't experiencing bad ratings back then so there was no massive drops back then as seen by the fact that every show was holding on t one another

>2016
Is where the massive drops started and by then Dragonball stopped being a pull for viewers

>those massive time gaps
Cherrypicked fringe nights that weren’t terrible don’t prove your point

Toonami doesn't see massive changes in ratings from week to week.

user, are you still there?

The hunt never ends Just like this fucking series

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2020 will be Toonami's final year. I can feel it.

i been meaning to look for a job anyways so maybe next year i dunno. mass suicide pact is fine too if most of us are in it

If I remember correctly

Is this A Zombie got 15,000

And the rest got between 2000-5000

Wrong. The prophecy has already been set

It never won’t be funny how obvious it was that they saw “Zombie” in the title and pulled the trigger immediately without any further research. How they got a Funi cut without translations for the notes will always be a mystery though

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Where can I find the dub of TPN episode 12? Had to miss it this past week because of vacation.

>somehow have already blown through most of this thread
Calling it now, the thread will max before we get the news

Are streaming services really that good or something? I watch tv more than I was youtube or use Netflex and shit. Most of the itme Netflex and Youtube don't have what I want unless its some original shit or something that can't normally be found anymore.

You idiot, you really thought you had something?
Go be salty about MHA somewhere else

>There's nothing to support this
Not him but most of Demarco's recent picks for the past year or so have been because of previous reputation or getting them for cheap. Even PTE had a rep before coming over. I remember MHA S3 had a lot of people clamoring for it to come over because Demarco caved in and got it.

Kuroani has sub and dub

>a half-dead programming block on Saturday nights is preventing you from getting a job
user, I...

>a block worth watching
literally all of these shows are literally unwatchable though

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At about the same time the rest of the block lost 900k viewers?

irrelevant

Aqua's fat ass on the block when?

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well? what fucking show was it

i wish i knew. only time i used a stream for an extended period of time was for that one steven universe season i missed and even then adblocker didnt help me and now i dunno what happened to larz
and the other time was for trying to grow out of my pirating habits for anime and give the future a chance and yet ads every 3 minutes and not even logically at commercial break times. just super hard cuts at random times for some mexican juice or something
so i just went back to cable and piracy

You're going to meme it on the block like Jojo but then nobody will watch despite it being a pushed for pick and then bitch that it has no ratings

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Fanservice pulls an audience. That’s why Jojo failed. It’s just all dudes most of the time

I felt like women were the bigger Toonami audience from what I've seen.

Fairy Tail

Milky Holmes S1/S2/Movie/Ovas

I would watch toonami if it played older anime. Modern anime is shit.

Aniplex doesn’t have their first panel till 6pm today

Maybe in the old days, not today

>grug only like quality old shows
We don’t want your kind to watch anyway

>complaining about potential viewer types when it's nothing but dragontards and shounenshits the entire block

>We don’t want your kind to watch anyway

People over 30?

I know.

Most older anime was shit too, there were just more gems sprinkled throughout

Toonami can't even get GOOD modern anime, they'd rather spend that money making cancer.

Not him and I have no opinion on whether the quality of anime has gone down, but I think it would be a solid business decision, at least assuming they could get something that isn't on the streaming services. Catering to Millennial nostalgia is practically a billion dollar industry. I for one would love to see some old favorites that I haven't gotten a chance to see in like 15 years, like Lain, Yu Yu Hakusho, Kenshin, Hack Sign, etc.

Maybe, but it was shit more tailored to my tastes. I'd rather watch a shit series form 1987 than a "good" series from today.

Well as long as you acknowledge it's your taste, no judgement from me

Everyone hates outdated cel animation unless it's one of the bigger shows like Bebop so it'd have to be some early digital stuff.

Fuck off. They tried with Outlaw Star and people avoided it. No one wants to watch old garbage. Especially years worth of old garbage in something like YYH

Would Monogatari be a good Toonami show or will people get bored of it still?

Outlaw Star was never popular to begin with. It flopped in Japan, but was a success in America due to the space adventure themes.

It flopped on Toonami because Demarco unironically thinks people wanna stay past 2am just to shill the Blu Ray release.

The problem with anime is that it's viewers are brainlets who expect everything to be fluid and on model

I'll watch it and that's all that I care about. Not like anything is going to get good ratings nowadays anyways.

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The problem with anime is that everything is badly animated and off-model. And the stories and themes are aimed at stupid teenagers.

Americans want dumb enterainment. "Smart" shows like TPN will always fail because of Kekkaku Doori shenanigans. So far, none of the character in Anime can top Sosuke Aizen's plans.

Lupin the Third is great and I'm glad the ratings are going up

The average Toonami Viewer hates Lupin because he's mainstream.

Hey bros, looks like this thread is about dead so this won’t matter, but im rolling up to AX and I have my eyes open for any Toonami news.

Have fun in Cali.

Pretty much, at this point it doesn't matter just request what you want if you're actually going to sit and watch it and not spam for shit that's popular.

Didn't they just get hit with a quake?

Earthquakes are the least of their problems. Also I don't know. I just wish I was there last night for AX.

i think part 4 was pretty bad, but im glad people are giving part 5 a shot

oof

Holy shit, guys! We're actually gonna get it. We're getting the HERO of the SHIELD!

The AX panel to really keep an eye on is the one Aniplex is doing for Demon Slayer. It's very likely they'll announce a dub there, and they'll probably want to maintain a presence on Toonami while SAO is on hiatus.

anything else in discotek's library worth getting?

Discotek generally specializes in older anime, so a lot of their library probably wouldn't be eligible to be chosen (due to age and/or lack of an HD remaster). If age wasn't a problem, I would say Fist of the North Star, but the dub only covered the first 36 episodes. They also have the 2003 Cyborg 009, which I'd love for Toonami to air again, but again no HD remaster and in fact the video quality of the existing masters had deteriorated so bad from neglect that it's taken Discotek a long time to make it even presentable for a home release.

If they could get it cheap for a spontaneous movie night, Hells would be great.

We need a real shocker to bring in the normies.

I know JUST the show.

youtube.com/watch?v=DiUKh_MjsI0

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Pretty much everything Discotek releases is worth getting.

>3 hours till general Aniplex panel
>4 hours till Demon Slayer panel
This thread ain’t gonna make it

Because the series is only meant for gross perverts.

So the late night AS crowd will be right at home

>TBS Animation panel in less than an hour
JUST RELEASE "CLOSE ENOUGH" ALREADY, YOU FUCKS

I stop watching toonami when SAO starts bc I can't stand that show.

closer

Was it good tho or have you just heard the news about it.

end

You like Asta, dont you?

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>TBS Animation
Aren't they done with animation since all their shows are going on AS?

AW SHIT SON, AUTOSAGE TIME

This week on Toonami
>Universes are vanishing for some reason
>Eren, Arim and Mikasa go into Basement to have a Threesome
>Cardinal deletes a Minecraft House and Russian kid screams
>Sexy Lady kills Lupin
>Souma’s Dad was a Elite from Halo
>WWE Bad Blood, Live July 15, on Pay-Per-View
>Boruto, Mitsuki and Shikadai have a Threesome
>We are going to the first episode of Naruto
>Boring shit
>WHY WOULD THEY PUT MHA ON 3:30

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No one has seen Close Enough except for a trailer they released literally two years ago. It was supposed to air as part of an animation block with Final Space and a cartoon Louie C.K. was developing, but after the shit that went down with the latter, they scrapped the plans for the block and have just been sitting on Close Enough (which apparently is still in production and season 2 is wrapping soon, even though not a single episode has been seen by the public).

That’s gonna be what happens to Streaming soon

We hit bump limit, retard.

I CAN'T BELIEVE VIZ ANNOUNCED THIS

twitter.com/VIZMedia/status/1146868074148241409?s=19

You are gonna have to try way harder man. These threads are no strangers to fake links. Generic clickbait posts aren’t gonna get it done here

in my last breath

i curse gundam

New thread will go up if there is any news. First panel is in 50 minutes. May not even be an Aniplex show we are getting so stay tuned all weekend

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