Who is ready for the most annoying millennial cartoon fanbase to get BTFO?

What exactly can Ed do? Never watched FMA

I assume they keep some of their general approaches despite being a death fight. Aang is more about playing keep away and dodging while Ed would be quicker to cut to the chase.

Also eas it shown that aang could bend metals or certain substances he couldn't bend? Might be a way for Ed to turn the tide somehow

I'm thinking aang wins this unfortunately but maybe they will count ed being smarter for something

>I'm pretty sure even if it's a Death Battle he would be hesitant to kill so that gives Ed a chance.

Yeah, it's not like Ed has any issue with taking life or anything.

The dude refuses to even uses souls suffering forever inside the philosophers stones

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It mostly just amounts to making constructs out of the ground

This fight doesn't come close to the shitfest that was ben vs hal

If Aang stops being a pacifist, this will probably rile up both sides.

ed would need a philospher stone for aang's avatar state, but even then he wouldn't use it because of his morality. i don't think it's a fair fight at all. all aang has to do is pull a zaheer and suffocate ed. or he could call ed short, piss him off, and fly away. ed would follow by raising the ground, but run out of material and tire himself out.

>even then he wouldn't use it because of his morality.
Don't worry DB guts characters of their morality and personal ethics, so now they are just cold hearted killers. Otherwise, if DB actually portrayed 100% then most match ups would either end in KO's or the characters talking it out.

Aang will destroy Ed's ass. He would be top tier in the FMA universe, even without the Avatar State.

Ed's been pretty resourceful with it before such as changing the chemistry of things and breaching Greeds armor

Pretty sure Mustang and some of the homunculus would mess him up. Given how much trouble he had with Combustion Man and Roy is a far far more busted version of him

Pretty much this. Alchemy is inherently limited and we forget Ed/Al have a huge advantage compared to other Alchemists due to their encounter with The Truth. Maybe against an average bender I’d give them the edge, but not against Aang. Especially not Avatar State Aang. Ed’s only hope would be catching Aang off guard while he’s being an evasive goof, since Ed is much more of a serious, hardened combatant. That said, both of them have a no kill rule.

Since when did we see Roy sniping people from across canyons? If anything, Roy is far weaker than Zuko since he has to create his own fire and hasn’t demonstrated any martial proficiency.

>, Roy is far weaker than Zuko since he has to create his own fire
he creates fire instantly by snapping his fingers. And unlike a firebender he can rapid fire giant explosions easily

Did you forget when Roy just spammed explosions on Envy? All the guy needs to do is snap

Aang can even win this without killing. All he would need to do is earthbend a giant rock and smash Ed's arm.

Firebenders can create huge gouts of flame, whilst doing kung-fu bullshit. I don’t recall if Roy needs starter after seeing The Truth, but for the bulk of the series has absolutely needs something to create the fire for him. Or did you forget the lighter during his iconic scene with Lust?

Does the Avatar State involve souls? Ed might be able to turn Aang into a Philosopher's Stone.

The avatar state doesn't "charge up", that specific moment was just Aang unlockings his final chakra so he could control the avatar state.

he does it with his special gloves you idiots

>most annoying millennial cartoon fanbase to get BTFO?
Wasn’t Ed the unofficial mascot for r/atheism until Ed admitted he seen too much supernatural stuff to be an atheist and became a theist agnostic in universe?

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God, I can see them bullshitting all of Aang’s past lives as some sort of Philosopher’s Stone even if they’re technically one soul. Think they’ll include Korra’s bullshit light spirit?

Come to think of it, Ed v Korra would be much more entertaining

Ed Vs Korra would have been far better given their attitudes

Ed literally meets "God" in the second episode of Brotherhood. He never claimed to be an atheist.

Retards take episode 3 out of context to claim he doesn't believe in God. The things he says in that episode are just to bait Rose into taking him to meet Cornello.

Yeah but he doesn't have the firepower to match

>Firebenders can create huge gouts of flame, whilst doing kung-fu bullshit.
snapping your fingers is a lot faster than doing kung-fu bullshit.
>he does it with his special gloves you idiots
well it's a good thing that his special gloves are standard equipment for him.

Who’s to say firebenders can’t bend the flame Roy creates? Are you really telling me someone like Iroh would lose to fucking Roy while he just stands there snapping his fingers? Ridiculous

FMA characters are bullet timers. Everybody in ATLA would be blitzed

Compared to Avatar State of course not. Regular he pulled some pretty decent stuff like giant ground spikes and such if I recall right. Main advantage Ed has is he is smart and could probably change the chemical makeup of things in the environment to possibly throw Aang off a bit

What the fuck can Ed even do in this fight? His main way of fighting is just bootleg earthbending with the occasional improvised weapon.

???

I can catch a baseball pretty easily, but someone who could throw a full pitch without any windup would be incredibly hard to catch, and throw back before another comes

This.
There's nothing more annoying than benfags.

Aang is not fast enough to react to Ed's attacks.

Roy doesn't just "throw" fire from his glove; he can literally pinpoint a location for his flame to ignite. In FMA he ignites Envy's eyeballs.

Technically a firebender may be able to control his flames but they would already be incapacitated..

he can do alchemy without a circle, which means his reaction/creation time is pretty high up there.
as for what he can do, he's really good at creation, primarily weapons, and he's a high end close combat fighter. he's also fought against a flame user repeatedly, so he'll be in a decent place against firebending. his alchemy could be used to do a form of earth bending. in terms of airbending and water bending, but he can produce moderately complex weapons (fully functioning cannons completely ready to fire with power and ammo) so he's got some stuff that might give aang pause.

Fair point. I’m still reluctant to put a limited, practical magic with very strict limitations over magic kungfu bullshit, that’s all.

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Ed is too smart for Aang

Roy only carries the gloves on his hands and Riza carries all of his back ups. Ina one on one of his gloves tear or get wet he’s fucked. It’s the reason he got blown out by lust at first because he didn’t react in time to her tearing his gloves apart. Also they’re just cloth gloves with flint on the fingertips so it wouldn’t really be that hard to put him out of commission assuming he doesn’t have Hughes lighter on him

Why do you believe a normal human from one universe would have a faster reaction speed than a normal human inhabited by spirit bullshit from another

I fine with who ever wins. FMA:Brotherhood and Avatar are among my favourite shows.

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His most impressive feats have to do with using souls (particularly his own) as a power source. He's also able to fuck with chemical structures on the fly.

technically all he needs is something to make the initial spark, so he could literally drag any piece of metal against a rock substance and be perfectly fine. i think he's got the transmutation circle he uses tattood on his hand.

based mechanic poster.

Ed's speed feats in FMA outclass Aangs

Theoretically, Ed can make the Ultimate Shield since he's already figured out how it works right?

>goku fans seething intensifies

His transmutation circle is on his gloves. He carved one into his hand to fight lust but couldn’t use it after his hand healed

You know, it’s called Death Battle for a reason

Aang managed to contain one of Combustion Man's explosions as it detonated right in front of him.
Avatar characters are as fast as the plot needs them to be.

One of the reasons I dislike DB is because people die, and the Mikasa vs Spider-Man fight.

He could craft armor pieces that had similar durability but he wouldn't be able use the ultimate shield the same way Greed does.

>Ina one on one of his gloves tear or get wet he’s fucked.
that would require A) prior knowledge and B) for his opponent to get close to him to tear the gloves. Aang could do it but Zuko or Azula or any other firebender would get fucked from the get go.

I don’t mind that because it was DBX, and those are just randomly decided

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Mustang is best character

actually, a fight between iroh and roy would be fucking amazing to see, but given how both their abilities work, it would be insane to truly plot out accurately.
Is it possible that a firebender could bend roy's flames. sure, but you have to think about how roy uses his flames. idk about the anime, but in the manga they explain that the way he directs his flames is his circle allows him to shift the ratio of oxygen and that's how his fire travels and explodes. So even as a firebender is trying to "bend" roy's fire, he's going to have to fight the natural channel that fire is being sent on. It would be a lot like trying to redirect a lightning bolt more than redirecting fire.
the same is true for anyone shooting fire at roy. he would be able to change the oxygen in the air. So if a fire bender shoots fire at roy, roy can change the air itself so the fire travels in a different direction or dies.
it would be a fight of who is faster at canceling out what the other person could do, so anyone short of iroh's skill would probably lose hard against roy.

Like what? A normal kid missing two limbs can outspeed an air nomad master?

>dub
yikes

Pacifist characters always kill in these things

Certainly at first, I agree. But Roy has to stay on the offensive, since he’s not particular mobile or defensive. If someone launches a wall of flame what can he do?

bullet dodging, aang had trouble dodging arrows

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because the one human is in the military and hard core trained in close combat, while the other is a pacifist trained in kung fu for the purposes of controlling his elemental power.

>Ed literally meets "God" in the second episode of Brotherhood. He never claimed to be an atheist.
I think the whole Ed being an militant atheist was just a English dub thing. In the manga at most Ed was agnostic just because he didn’t want to join a religion.

People are forgetting that Roy saw Truth by the end of Brotherhood.

>Pretty sure Mustang and some of the homunculus would mess him up

Mustang is a far weaker version of Combustion Man. The former's attack is not entirely instantaneous and Aang could manipulate the fire.

The Humunculi would give Aang a hard time, unless they face a version of Aang who can manipulate fire, in which case they would be done for in a matter of minutes because no bender has the disadvantage of using transmutation cirlcles to create their attacks. Actually, I think the Fire Nation would do a far better job fighting the Humunculi than the FMA army.

I think the only people who could have a shot against Aang are Scar and Father with Truth. The former because he can disintegrate Aang easily, and the latter because he was almost a god.

Is this what people mean by scaling characters? Because Ed was able to fight in equal grounds with a bullet dodging enemy, his speed is bullet dodging level?

Humans are not standard within fictions
Humans in both these shows are a hell of a lot stronger and tougher than real humans, and humans in FMA when skilled enough, like Ed, can dodge bullets

I really don't see how Ed is winning this without wanking speed feats. Aang has far superior feats of power with the Avatar state. Ed probably isn't even in the Top 15 strongest characters in FMA. Aang is the fucking Avatar.

This and he dodged a bullet at point blank before

Which one?

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Ed will win

>ididn'treadthepost.jpg
>If someone launches a wall of flame what can he do?
he could literally change the oxygen in the air. so if someone sends a wall of flame at him, he can literally shift the oxygen so that a "wall" of oxygen-less air exists that the fire cannot burn through. or he can create an oxygen rich zone that sucks the fire up and back around towards the person sending the fire wall.
with alchemy, you have to change the way you think about the environment.

Bradley can beat Aang through precog and speed

i'm pretty sure ed's casual punch will heavily damage aang. He casually broke a large with tree just by punching it.

Then he’d be absolutely useless in a one on one if it’s that Roy. He could still use his alchemy but being blind he’d need someone to tell him where he should aim. If no one is there then it’s an instant blowout

Marcoh cured his blindness with a pholosopher's stone but he kept his knowledge of Truth and the ability to perform circle-free alchemy

Reminder that Ed is a genius.

Pride was severely weakened before the fight and it was clearly implied that practically nobody could compete with Pride at full strength. You can't use it as a valid feat.

Both works are garbage with annoying fans so whoever loses it will still be funny.

Doesn't that mean he just saw the gun and dodged? That's almost as bad as the shit they tried to justify Tracer vs Scout with.

I think the feat he's showing is not him beating pride, more that he can turn himself into a philosopher stone, which is pretty nuts

What this have to do with goku retard?

That’s my point, have we ever seen Roy do that? Do we know that fire alchemy is a two way street? It seems plausible in theory, but much of alchemy is broken as hell in theory whereas it’s not in the source material outside specific characters

youtu.be/JU8ZYlqmOL4

BTFO

Every time he does that it takes time off his life expectancy. It's not a good strategy.

It could be, but since he was able to keep up with two people who dodged bullets as seen in the video posted before it's safe to assume that he is capable of doing so

>kid doesn’t get shot in a kid’s show
>HOLY SHIT HE’S SPIDER-MAN

>have we ever seen Roy do that?
no idea if we've ever seen it, but it is canonically how he uses his powers, so there's no reason to think he couldn't. Everyone talks about Roy being a "fire user" but in reality he's more mechanically an "air bender" he just uses sparks to light the air on fire.

Ed will be slower because he has to clap but he can also do all the things Scar can do since disintegrating things is just him stopping before the alchemical process is completed.

Probably thought DB meant dragonball and not death battle

>Ursula boss fight has heavily telegraphed lightning attacks that come out like a full second after the initial warning
>SORA IS FAST ENOUGH TO DODGE LIGHTNING

To be fair, I could believe that given some of the shit we’ve seen Sora pull. Ed? Not so much.

With the way Roy's alchemy works wouldn't he be the worst opponent for a firebender since he makes the air around his opponent oxygen rich? If the air surrounding them is oxygen rich wouldn't they just blow themselves up everytime they made fire?

a very valid point. he could literally turn them into a living bomb.

Or conversely make it deprived of oxygen

If you could read fucktard you'd know i was talking about the characters losing personal bias and morality. In the first goku vs supes deathbattle goku literally saves supes from kryptonite.

I've said it before and I'll say it again
I feel like Ben 10 fans don't care about deathbattles nearly as much as DCfans

Only thing Aang has is raw power

Speed, intelligence, versatility, etc are all in Ed’s favor

Could ed transmute himself long enough arms to just reach out and grab aang to deconstruct im

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Judging by the dislike ratio on the Death Battle, gonna have to disagree

Aang's pretty fast and has quite the bit of versatility

Isn't deconstructing a person human alchemy and can't be done without a philosopher's stone?

>Thread about a completely different fight
>It's Halfags bringing up Ben to ruin a much better fight thread
Who cares about the character you liked more winning some death battle, this ones way more interesting

Scar deconstructs people all the time without one

Is that why there are tons of Ben 10 fags making videos about DB?

>versatility
>can’t even alchemy fire, water, or air

Not true, both of them are about the same at speed, as both never displayed feats of superhuman speed. Ed have FAR better versatility and inteligence, this is true, coming up with a bullshit smart way to win is his only hope against Aang much higher raw power. And that's what will happen and it will be very very forced

Alchemy still obeys conservation of mass.

Mustang can actually pinpoint and hit exact objects. No way would Aang come back if Roy instantly fried his brain.

If he has a bunch of stuff for the mass could he though

Ben fags were asshurt as fuck over Hal beating Ben that they made multiple videos “debunking” the fight

>I'm pretty sure even if it's a Death Battle he would be hesitant to kill
The DB guys explicitly state they ignore No-Kill rules for the purposes of the death battle.

The idea of Aang either being blown up into gore or blowing up someone else into gore feels weird
Why do they have death battles to the death and not just a regular who would win with a dude getting knocked out if they were fighting a no kill dude

The thread mentioned terrible cartoon fandoms getting BTFO in Death Battle

Bit of a stretch in order to ruin a thread

Eh, Alien X wank was pretty annoying over the years, it’s worth it

What death in DB do you guys feel that was either too brutal or unnecessary?

Pikachu

But TTGO hasn't been on the show.

Aang is stronger so Ed will win.

Ace
The close up and sprite animation of his death was unnecessary and grotesque
I liked it

Did the Avatar comics give Aang any more notable feats?

Its in the fucking title
Has been that way since 2010
Yes the show is almost 10 years old

wow, this looks pretty cool for an anime. Because I mean all anime is crap by default so I bet story and setting is doing disservice to how it looks.

Teen Titans 2003/Go will never be in a Death Battle because their comic incarnations take up priority

Keep crying Benfag.

>If Ed loses we'll suffer from Vicfags claiming bias after all the shit that has happened

After the Gaara bullshit how can anyone still deny that DB has an anti Anime Bias?

I forgot how retarded this show was

A u r o r a B o r e a l i s

Lucy defeated Cletus
18 defeated Carol

It's a lose lose on that front. Either you get the for side or kick side bitching depending on who wins

those two characters aren't as "revered" as Avatar characters though

.............the next Community DEATH BATTLE is Teen Gohan vs Superboy and they said there is a very specific reason they are doing this and the poll will be RTX...

It's happening, is it. Goku vs Superman 3....

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Death Battle has killed Pokemon, Dragon Ball characters, Purple Smart, etc

They promoted their research team so it's somewhat more accurate although there are still obvious shill results here and there like Vergil Vs Sephiroth to get certain fanbases to calm down

>Goku vs Superman 3
>Still no Galactus vs Unicron
>Doing the most controversial match again right after the second most controversial match

The only DB with a worse reaction to Hal Vs Ben was Goku VS Superman.

Alright, depending on what Superboy they use, Gohan will probably win this.

Hal vs Ben surpassed it in like/dislike ratio

Also they are annoucing a bunch of things at RTX including a new show they are working on,DBX and possible future DEATH BATTLEs

>not aiming down the sights
Waifu status shattered

I'm betting on an Ismahawk collaboration for Cole MacGrath vs Alex Mercer

How much salt would there be if they announced - Saitama vs Goku vs Superman: Battle Royale

Man o really hated how all the Eldritch horrors from beyond reality turned out to be crybabies with Daddy issues

Saitama would get fucked
A member of the research team doesn't believe in NLF and made a blogpost about him vs Krilllin
Krillin won

UI goku beats normal supes

Can Krillin blow up a planet? I feel like that was a minimum criteria to even be a z warrior by the end

this is his blog
shadesblogs.blogspot.com/2019/06/death-battle-analysis-saitama-vs-krillin.html

People blame Vic for the change in religious beliefs of Ed in the dub, but it's clearly obvious right from the beginning that Ed was never an atheist. He met Truth, blames him for his problems when he discovers the truth about the Philosopher's stone, Ling mentions how Ed looks like he's praying when he transmute Envy's victims, and even claims that human birth is a miraculous act. Hell, by the end, Ed and Alphonse intend to screw the laws of alchemy by trying to figure out a way to bypass Equivalent exchange.

I remember when the 2003 anime had Ed stab a man to death with a sword in the 4th episode and not a single person ever brought it up or looked bothered by it.

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H-he fell on his sword

>implying they'll let a DBZ character beat a DC character

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When is RTX

This is untrue, Ed's transmuted earth water and air before

I don't know why they still keep this "no limits" autism for so long
If DC itself said that Superman has limits they would deny it and post dozens of panels to "prove them wrong" in the most autistic way possible

Can't FMA alchemy literally deconstruct people's bodies or change their composition to the point that living is impossible?

How does Ed even touch Avatar state, and what's the point of this matchup? Descendants of vanished people who move the ground?

That's just the audience disagreeing with the conclusion presented, which was pretty poorly put together even if you agree with the outcome.

Yes

Yes. But he can't do that unless he can touch Aang. Aang can fly

Only way Ed to best the AS is to somehow utilize Truth, but at that point it would be a bunch of bs

Yes, a lot of alchemy could be an instant kill. Or you could just touch the person and stop at the point of deconstruction.

That's what Scar does yeah

By shounen manga standards, FMA is really one of the best and one of the least cliched compared to others. Yea Forums and other contrarians might dislike it or argue the 2003 anime is better, but there's a reason FMA is universally popular.

based retard

That's obvious he has shaken infinity, which is better than lifting a fake infinity(with help)
Thus goku wins

This weekend

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Give me ONE reason Ed doesn’t stomp with deconstruction or using himself as a philosophers stone

Bump

Didn't Superman break through Mxy's tower of infinity two years ago?

The stone isn't standard equipment and Aang's keep away strategy wouldn't allow Ed to get in close

Those guys are only that fast because of the experiments done on them, Ed can't dodge bullets.

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>Can keep up with two people who can dodge bullets
>Has dodged a bullet
You're right, he can't dodge bullets

this, and also in the 03 anime Ed dodges bullets from Riza from outside a building and is not aware of her presence. She states she knew he would dodge them despite him accusing her of trying to kill him.
03 isn't the main continuity but Ed is more or less capable of the same things manga/brotherhood Ed is, so this just adds more support to Ed being a bullet dodger

Ed is fucked, Aang has avatar state and can fucking fly.

They would never ever use Saitama, his fullest potential still something we can only guess

How would Ed fare against Firestorm?

How soon till death battle just becomes full clickbait? Like, when do they start making top 10 reasons why batman is the gayest character in fiction lists?

They seem to be almost there already so let me know when they finally take that plunge.

youtube.com/watch?v=as0oQsgLIyk

very start of clip, throughout the series Ed constantly uses pillars to get around. Yes, Aang can fly and yes he has the superior mobility, but it's not like Aang will get to camp him out, Ed can absolutely pursue him or just fire at him from the ground with cannonballs
youtu.be/UXbskDZKD7o?t=189

Ben 10 already lost and Avatarfags don't care about power levels as much as them
Still surprised Hal vs Ben was unintentionally made into a near Goku vs Superman tier match

Ed can still oneshot Avatar State Aang with deconstruction alchemy.
Also the theme is elemental masters with a theme of balance (balancing the elements vs equivalent exchange), and FMA and avatar have always had a slight fanbase rivalry i believe

They don't do top 10s anymore due to YouTube Algorithms
Top 10s were moved to a different channel

Who has better environment control?
Also, if the Avatar State is saved for the climax, Aang wins
If not, he's fucked

But could Ed even get close enough to Aang to touch him without being shredded?

Who would win if it came down to a fist fight with no alchemy or bending?

Ed has actual military training

Well, Ed is faster until I see otherwise, so he could intercept Aang before his transformation maybe? Ed's also a master of setting up traps, he might be able to stall Aang enough to get a sneak shot in or something.
Hard to say, Ed and Aang basically have the same earthbending so they effectively cancel out. Aang's airbending is unmatched, but Ed can transmute oxygen so Aang can't just use it against him to instant kill.
Probably Aang, if only because he has the mobility advantage, but Ed has an answer for most if not all of Aang's environment control; he just cant move around spamming it quite as much.

Gag panel, Ed probably moved his head before he pulled the trigger. Ed is very agile but he's not bullet tier otherwise a lot of his fights would be scaled weird. I'm the one who actually posted that panel last thread.

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>but he's not bullet tier otherwise a lot of his fights would be scaled weird.
you can say this about basically any fictional character's high end feats

Bending requires physical effort and Aang was a master airbender at 12 and a master at the four elements at 13, Even without using airbending he shown feats of agility and strengh that AT LEAST rival Ed's.

>HUR DURR MY FANFIC MADE YOU BTFO!

Fuck off, already. Im sick of you retards acting like this shit matters.

>Ed is faster until I see otherwise

Remember the blue spirit when Aang walked as fast as the wind? Remember whatever episode this is when he walked fast enough to run on water?

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This is why I'm hesitant to say a character can see faster than a speeding bullet in relatively normal verses. It's like when people say Avatar-verse characters have lightning+ reactions and Zuko specifically is faster than lightning because he ran in front of Azula's lightning blast in the finale, just not right.

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im no expert, but a quick google search suggests the speed needed for that is way, way slower than the speed of a bullet (67mph vs 1,700 mph)

You *think* that is his reaction speed, not his actual speed. Do you believe Ed can run fast enough to run on water? No obviously not.

Fair enough, though lately i dont think DB has been really differing between the two
Im more than happy to concede Ed probably isn't as fast on foot, at least for now, because I can't remember anything else at the moment

And a bullet is slower than a lightning Aang can catch (4500 km/h vs 100080000 km/h)

Based metric bro

Some sources of my quick google search say 220,000 km/h, I don't have a clue of witch one is bullshiting, but the fact of matter is that lightning is faster than a bullet

Wasn't the lightning less of a reaction and more of an anticipation? I may be wrong, this sounds like something else in avatar that was like that

Dunno about the FMA side but the Avatar fanbase is always quick to recommend FMA to people looking for a similar show. I've never seen anything close to a rivalry.

i worded badly, i meant moreso like what you said, the fanbases are kind of close to each other so theres a history of overlap in fight ideas and discussion

Is it wrong to find this cute?

>gag panel
They used Shredder's meatball feat which was also a gag

>Ed vs Aang
>Not Ed vs Firestorm

It probably was, Aang was probably ready to redirect it as soon as Ozai started to charge the bolt. But you could definitely argue that Ed reacted to Tim Marcoh pointing a gun at him, and not the bullet itself. Both assumptions make much more sense that those unhumans feats of speed

>people calling roy weak
You fucking what? Zuko has never once demonstrated anything like pic related even when he was an angry edgelord. And Roy has pinpoint accuracy meaning he can literally burn someone's eyes out.

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Ed literally turned himself into one though....hell, this cpuld be yhe forst double ko with a self sacrafice bullshit.

>people calling roy weak

Who the fuck said that?
Pride explicitly said he was the most troublesome alchemist to deal with and he was very relieved when Roy whent blind

>Ed literally turned himself into one though

When? No seriously, I read that a decade ago, was it on the final fight with Father?

Yes yes, well done Avatarverse, well done. You've bested Ed fair and square.
HOWEVER

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Ed runs Firestorm's rogues gallery gauntlet
How far can he go seeing he couldn't take on Killer Frost?

*Jumps the shark in front of you*

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Bending generated lightning can't be as fast as regular lightning otherwise Zuko would be unbelievable quick and just generally we can see the lightning travel time, i.e. there's enough time to have a shot of Aang reacting to Ozai's incoming blast. The only time where we get an actual lightning feat is when Iroh redirected some away from Zuko's ship but I'd say it's not Iroh literally seeing faster than lightning and just him sticking out his arm before it came down like we see aka anticipation.

But on a similar note Ed isn't a bullet timer, that said his reaction speed is notable with his best feat being blocking Pride's attacks so reliably for so long. Don't be surprised if Death Battle scales them as high as possible though.

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>Roy is far weaker than Zuko

Holy shit.

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i wonder if the after battle thing will have Al show up and transmute himself in exchange for Ed, would be kinda funny

Wrath alone could murder the entirety of Avatar with Korra included and he's just a guy with a sword. These death battles are fucking dumb.

Ty lee could probably fuck up Wrath

In the past I think DB would give this to Ed, who undeniably is craftier, smarter, and has some hax to back up these traits. But nowadays, like most VS communities, DB favors big numbers over anything else, so i think Aang is pretty much a lock, since there's no way Ed can compete with Avatar State numbers.

She's too slow

How much of a fedora would Ed be around the concept of Avatars?

Dude, the shows been better at getting correct verdicts since the research team promotion

he'd probably be a lot more open to it if we're talking post story Ed, having beaten Truth and all

9 out of 10 times they decide the battle by picking up each characters biggest offensive and defensive skill, use tons of TNT or a atom bomb as unit of measurement, and see how would they fare against each other.

Someone just give each character greatest feat and we can predict the result

Bradley has dodged multiple bullets at once and sliced them midair too

i didnt say aang or ed was the correct verdicts just that their tendency to favor certain metrics for winners has changed over time

So was Garra. Death battle tends to forget about this stuff.

Not at all, Ed only believes in what he can see and experience, upon seeing Aang doing his spirit shit he would not be in denial about it at all.

That was before the research team got promoted

Bradley would shove a sword through Ed's gut in the first 5 seconds if they fought

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>ty lee
>beating an extremely experienced warrior who does shit like casually dodging bullets and cutting through tank shells fired at him while having nonsensical endurance despite being a normal human
Sure. And that's not even taking into account his meme eye. People in general really overhype ATLA's characters for some reason.

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Again, can't Zuko just bend Roy's fire?

>But Roy can snap his fingers in an instant!

Not if Zuko makes some distance between them. It wouldn't get to him fast enough for him to not bend it and fire it back at Roy.

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That isn't how it works. Zuko isn't immune to fire, obviously just look at his face, it would immediately explode all around him and he wouldn't even know what killed him.

no, because there's no fire to bend until Zuko is already combusted. Think of it like, you know Zelda's side b attack in Smash? Din's Fire, how you can't intercept it before it detonates and once it does you can't even reflect it back because it's combusting on the spot? That's like how Mustang works. Zuko could bend if he dodges the explosion, but that's unlikely since Mustang can casually target basically any part of your body

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Literally who could beat him?

Someone posted it earlier in the thread. Ed turned himself into a stone to enter Pride and exorcise him. It's an interesting parallel because it means that if Aang tries to remove Ed's bending, he'll probably get gibbed from the inside out. On the other hand, Deathbattle, so it probably won't happen. But that's how I'd end the fight.

No, Roy transmutes the air and guides a spark along a feeding line of oxygen and then it explodes. Zuko could absolutely just snuff out the spark before it blows.

>aang had trouble dodging arrows

He dodged Combustion Man's explosive shots though.

then it's a stalemate, because roy could easily just keep doing it over and over forcing zuko to constantly play defense. In that scenario, is it more likely Roy gets tired of snapping or Zuko misses one spark and gets tagged?

I'm pretty sure Ed could only do that because of Pride's stone, Ed enter Pride's stone like any of the other souls trapped in there and destroyed him from within. Don't think it would be relevant if Aang tried to energybend Ed but that probably wouldn't do anything to him anyways. Maybe you could make the argument that it would drain Ed of his energy i.e. just make him really tired like what happened to Ozai other than losing his bending.

Ed doesn't even need to enter Aang, if he tries to take away his 'bending' Aang is just letting Ed get the one touch he needs to blow up Aang from the inside out

It would be a power struggle between snapping and dancing

Doesn't Zuko practice moving meditation? He can use his swords while swiping away Roy's blasts. There's a bit of a double-edged sword in that approach where it's harder for him to get them in time from up close, but it'd break the stalemate. That said, I think Roy would tire first, so hanging back would actually be a wiser move anyway; Zuko can snuff small fires like that just by breathing; it's one of the basic firebending exercises he was shown doing at the start of the show.

Avatar characters have wildly different speeds depending on the scenario.
Aang and Zuko reacting to lightning, Appa flying at mach speeds, Ozai dodging AS Aang earth bullets, there's no real consistency when it comes to this.

Amestris's military might vs. Any nation in ATLA would look like the Opium Wars, with a vaguely Asian nation getting wrecked by a vaguely European power.

What kind of matchup is this?
Aang and Ed are two entirely different characters from two very different stories with Aang being a near godlike being that can manipulate the elements as an extension of his body while Ed is more a practical quick on his toes user of practical magic, it just seems weird like having Harry Dresden fight Invincible or something.

Goku fed cell a senzu bean bro its not that outrageous

Master of the Elements (Classical vs Periodic) and Aang was originally gonna fight Harry Potter way back in Season 1

Thinking about it, I've never seen guns in Avatar. Can someone in FMA who knows how to use a gun just wreck everybody by littering them with bullets?

Could Riza Hawkeye solo half of the Avatarverse?

They should have done Aang vs ROTJ Luke

Its the theme God vs Man? That actually makes a bit of sense

Depends if there's a bender who can react fast enough or at least anticipate it and quickly sink her into the ground catching her off guard

Why do people hype Wrath co much? Heonly looked that godly while fighting unimportan characters. Greed 2 and Scar fought him on equal terms.

>Could Riza Hawkeye solo half of the Avatarverse?
literally yes
she could easily assassinate the Avatar even, barring some deus ex Avatar spirit premonition of her coming or some shit

Also, thinking about it, would the version of Roy impact anything? We're talking Brotherhood, but the 2003 timeline has an Ed willing to kill people to get the job done and who became the disciple of Alchemy Jesus, which bolsters his versatility considerably.

Name a single Avatar character that can take down Sloth (Brotherhood/manga).

>Aang being a near godlike being
In his own series yes, but put him against 98% of animu characters and even a meme like Yamcha would kick his shit in.

Ed can't kill Aang if he can touch him. If Aang is in avatar state I don't know how he reaches him. Doesn't Ed still have to clap before everything, and he doesn't have the control over air water and fire like Aang does. Ed can make constructs on par and if he's manipulating metal Aang can't bend it.

I don't really see Ed winning this fight, so by DeathBattle logic I'm giving the fight to Ed.

Human transmutation involves souls, the body doesn't really matter. Otherwise the human body is just a bag of dirt and chemicals you can manipulate to your hearts content.

So what anime and cartoons are left for Death Battle to cover/should cover?

Amon

Ed wins and proceeds to transmutate Korra into a watchable series

He's massively faster than everyone in the setting. Roy is walking OP bullshit who can just melt Homunculus and Wrath just fodderizes him in 2 seconds. He's the only character with explicit bullet reactions. He was on the cusp of death vs Scar and even then it took a literal miracle for Scar to win a second away from Wrath delivering the fatal blow.

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Can't Avatar state just turn the floor into lava since his past lives have done so?

Avatar Korra vs. Ryuko Matoi

But these are both millennial shows.

All I've seen the Avatar State do was just twist all the elements around in a ball around the Avatar.

What about him? His meme blood blending power? It's shown you can resist it by sheer force of will, something which literally fuels anime characters in fights. If him or Katara tried it on even a shit tier DB character they'd get their skull caved in in about 3 seconds.

Megas XLR?

In flashbacks we've seen past users erupt volcanoes, create massive tornadoes, forge islands, etc
Shouldn't Aang scale to them?

>It's shown you can resist it by sheer force of will

No you can't, The only thing you can do against it is being the avatar in the avatar state, or be a blood bender yourself

>If him or Katara tried it on even a shit tier DB character they'd get their skull caved in in about 3 seconds.

Well, yeah. Good thing we are not talking that shitty show or even worse fandom

Yes, by all accounts, if a past avatar can do it, Aang can do it even better.

Law of equivalent exchange says we have to give up something of equal value

>It’s another we pretend DB just an excuse for a small group of powerlevel fags to force their headcanons onto everyone else because this time they’re featuring a character i like/don’t like” episode
Nice to see how everyone’s true colors come out every time we do this.

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The writing of the Last Airbender would need to be sacrificed.

>being the avatar in the avatar state
You mean you can beat bloodbending by overpowering the guy bending your blood? In other words, it doesn't work on people stronger than you?

>it doesn't work on people stronger than you?

Tarlok caould use it on Korra no problem, 10 years old Amon could us on a pack of wolves without moving a finger, Yakone could use it on Aang. Being stronger is not the factor, it shows that you are a DBZ fan

doesnt invalidate it buddy

I liked the first part, but thought it went a bit downhill throughout the second part (Z). I also hate Super. Aang couldn't bloodbend during the day, because bloodbending was a brand new technique and Yakone was the first person to ever do it, which means Aang didn't counter-bend, so the most apparent difference is that the Avatar state widened the gap massively.

I fucking hate avatar but I'm pretty sure Ang has the edge here.

>Yakone was the first person to ever do it
Because I know you're going to pretend you don't understand this line in order to discredit my post, I'll revisit that.

>bloodbending was a brand new technique
It was invented in Aang's lifetime.
>Yakone was the first
"During the day." Aang mentioned that bending is an artform that evolves over time in the trial; he didn't give a practical explanation that "oh yeah I've been messing with it but I assumed normal benders couldn't."

Between Gaara vs Toph, Ben vs Hal, Bowser vs Ganon, I keep seeing some deathmatches where they misrepresent and miscalculate everything to painful degrees. I was going through some old battles and I'm glad they actually got Ken vs Jotaro right, but then their actual logic was still horrible.

I think Aang wins, but I'm trying to run it through a DB simulator to see how they reach the winner. They might hand it to Ed by scaling him to Father, or by pointing out Aang's weakness towards earthbending, or something like that.

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what did he mean by this?

Korra resisted Amon's bloodbending, albeit Amon was a bit a flustered / just received bit of a beating... but then again Mako could resist it enough to generate some lightning. I wouldn't be opposed to the line of thinking that maybe Amon presently wasn't as good as his bro or his dad with bloodbending except when it comes to subtly because he can't really practice bending while posing as Amon. Yakone and Tarrlok can just knock people out in a second with their bloodbending that's fucked.

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Roy was cured of his blindness by the end of FMA via the Philosopher's Stone. Doesn't even need his special glove to transmute after he saw the Truth. Nor is he limited to Flame Alchemy. Anything that Ed could do with alchemy, Roy can do with the added bonus of Flame Alchemy.

>Ben vs Hal
kys Benfag

Amon was probably the best blood bender in history, I don't completely recall that mess of a season finale, but wasn't for most of that fight Amon dealing mainly with Korra while just barely keeping mako in check without even looking at him? God just looking that gif makes me angry, they comompletely ignore the whole separating yin and yang before shooting a lightning

>Anything that Ed could do with alchemy, Roy can do
Roy is probably a very proficient alchemist, but I wouldn't say he's as good as Ed. A few times in the story people chide him for being useless when he can't use his fire and he starts freaking out/running away when he gets wet instead of pulling out some nasty alchemy like Ed would.

Ed can do Flame Alchemy too. The only exceptions to the "normal" alchemy rules are Father, 2003 Wrath, and Sophie Bergmann, but people who see the Truth have an instinctive grasp of chemical composition and spatial geometry, the ability to construct a circle on the fly through the use of anything vaguely circular, and an eidetic memory.

You write like the average DB consumer, so I guess they probably hit a pretty big lowest common denominator to please.

>wasn't for most of that fight Amon dealing mainly with Korra while just barely keeping mako in check without even looking at him?

Yes, Amon was using both of his hand to take away Korra's bending, that was when Mako managed to hold his two fingers in the right position to shoot a lightning, but when he shoot the blast itself Amon had his full attention on him. Maybe he was over confident, and didn't even bother to make the minimun effort to hold Mako's whole body(very likely), maybe Mako just brute force out of his hold (not likely), maybe it was just shitty writing (most likely)

The only Homunculus that were weak to fire were Envy and Lust. The others were either to fast, durable or smart to be harmed by fire.

Get over it, Kuro

A minute later he has a full grip and full attention on Korra, and she breaks through.
>No...You...Don't!
before kicking him out the window. Note: she didn't use her Avatar State. Amon isn't as good as Tarrlok or Yakone fight me.

Oh yeah, I completely forgot about that, you are right.

I'd like to add that with this in mind now I conceed that Amon could definitely not beat Sloth

LoK removed the eastern cultural aspects of the setting, including the martial arts component of the bending. Separating Yin and Yang to bend lightning? Gone. Performing the proper movement true to form? Nope, just point your fingers to shoot lightning and punch the air for anything else.

I can't really see Ed winning this. Even before you bring up the avatar state, bending is just quicker offensively than most types of alchemy. All it really takes is the time to breathe deep and maybe throw a punch.

Roy would give him a run for his money, but Ed just doesn't have the maneuverability to fight someone who can fly and has super speed

You need to stop giving free headspace to random Youtubers. I'm more annoyed by Bowser vs. Ganon than that fight, which was more of a generic misrepresentation. Bowser vs. Ganon ignored that Bowser himself is a sacred being and highballed everything about the Triforce divinity while Bowser has several multiversal incarnations. And Ganon inflicts a death curse on him that was a slow-killing disease from Gohma, not Ganon.

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It's a shame, save for that fuggly season 2 the animation in Korra was much more polished than in TLA, but it was wasted on that uninspired fighting.

wake me up when we get another cartoon animated like this

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Shit, even season 2 looks better than I remember, that's godly. What a waste

Well to be fair, the Xing characters are probably the most powerful characters physically in FMA that weren't physically enhanced. King Bradley excluded because of his magic eye that boost his reflexes.

Its called Young Justice.

It's so annoying that one of the best animated shows ever made had to be so horribly written. I wanted to like it the whole time because it looked so nice. Even Season 2's low points in animation are nitpicking in comparison to the average anime or Calarts nonsense.

I think ATLA had more interesting designs and choreography though.

Young Justice is way more floaty and a lot of characters have sameface. Season 3's budget got hit hard and it shows. Hopefully it gets better. It's still good looking, but not on par.

You do know that those Bowser's were a one time thing? The Dreamstone/Star Rod/Whatever else isn't standart equipment.

>I think ATLA had more interesting designs and choreography though.

By far, I recently rewatched ATLA, and the fighting was very entertaining, Korra was better looking and well animated, but it lacks the god tier directing and originality ATLA had.

>freaking out/running away when he gets wet instead of pulling out some nasty alchemy like Ed would.
Because all that stuff was before he saw Truth. Unless he had prepared circles water was a hard counter to him.

I think the choreography got better with time in Korra, you were more likely to see like earthbending with low sturdy stances at least trying to replicate ATLA's style deeper into the show rather than just punchbending which Pro Bending endorsed by virtue of how the sport is played. There's a certain satisfaction watching Tenzin dance around Zaheer constantly spinning around like a leaf in the wind.

ATLA kind of started getting a little too DBZ at points for me especially for the S2 finale where Zuko just creates these giant flame tentacles that look Sozin's Comet tier, but it was still way better and more thoughtful in this regard.

his glove has the circle on it

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Edward is more resourceful and creative with his alchemy. While it's true that Aang can throw elemental punches and debris much faster, the time it takes Ed to do the same he could also make fairly intricate devices instead. Also keep in mind that metal bending was created by Toph and Aang/all previous Avatars he has access to likely won't be able to pull it off to any effective degree, something Ed would likely quickly take notice of and use to his advantage. Besides, as powerful as the Avatar state seems to be it's really not much more extreme than other threats Ed has dealt with in the past, even huge speed disadvantages are something he's dealt with. If Aang can resort to blood bending then it's pretty much GG, but otherwise I'd give it to Ed 7/10 times due to his sheer intellect, experience (both overall as well as fighting stronger opponents), and access to even more elemental weirdness.

Base Bowser still had better feats, and they were assuming Ganondorf was actually immune to anything save a holy object, which you could rationalize Bowser as regardless, when he's died to far simpler objects. Bowser has inconsistent endurance as is to be expected, but the same applies to Ganon. If you actually have them at base Bowser wins with his best feats, and if you take them at their best Bowser wins by a ridiculous margin. And I'm sure this ties into their "the story doesn't matter" narrative, but that wasn't even remotely how the death curse operates and it sounded like they just scanned a wiki. They probably do just scan wikis a lot of the time.

>his glove has the circle on it
Yeah, but that circle only changes the concentration of the air. Manipulating earth, construction, deconstruction, changing matter, changing elements, are outside of his breadth with just the glove circles.

Say what you will about the plot, the pointless period skipping to an oriental version of the western 1900's(which then became a hellscape after Korra unleashed the spirits) did a lot to kill the mood. I used to defend the superpowered bending as a sort of progression of humanity, but it really did kill a lot of the flavor and action.

>If Aang can resort to blood bending then it's pretty much GG
>Ed uses his automail arm to clap his other hand and transmute or sock Aang in the face if he is close enough

How long would it take for him ('03 version) to topple Ba Sing Se and the Fire Nation?

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Ozai would Mustang him and then some.

I don't see Roy handicapping himself by not having another glove with a more standard alchemist circle, but he's a specialist with his fire and wouldn't be able to replicate what Ed or Armstrong can do so easily nor is he so combat savvy/agile. He's like Kimblee.

Envy would assassinate Ozai, impersonate him and take over the Fire Nation.

Oh, you mean Envy would be going at it covertly? Probably then, yeah. I was imagining a giant dragon attacking the cities.

Envy could topple one of them pretty easily but I don't think he could manage both of them on his own.

He'd definitely have a fun time toppling Ba Sing Se from the inside. I'd say it's a death wish to take down the the Fire Nation with Azula around.

Kek

My money is on Ed. Aang might have sheer strength and Ed is pretty squishy if he takes a hit, but Ed is smarter than Aang. In universe Ed is the youngest state alchemist and probably one of the best alchemists ever, I'm pretty sure he can stomp Aang.

>probably
He was a genius even before he could remember everything he saw, and afterward spent several years hounding down obscure texts and references. The only ones who can compete in raw skill are 03 Wrath, Father, and Hohenheim.

Shit, and Sophie. I should have just left 03 out.

Super Tattooed Caillou vs. A 1-Armed Short & Ill-Tempered Blonde Alchemist.

Bullshit he's not, did you forget him taking out Envy? He doesn't just use fire, he can rapidfire explosions by doing nothing more than snapping his fingers.

No he doesn't, he didn't have his gloves when fighting Lust, in fact Lush even took this into account when she fought him.

Nonsense except maybe Wrath.

I think he'd make for an interesting fight against Azula. 03 version of course. We don't know how many lives he had, but over a course of 400 years, he's gotta have a hefty amount. He could whittle her endurance down, and if that somehow fails he can always go leviathan

>No he doesn't, he didn't have his gloves when fighting Lust
Lust specifically sliced up his glove after she stabs his gut, which is why Roy had to carve the symbol onto the back of his palm when he came back and lit her ass up with the lighter which he should really carry around with his standard equipment.

Unless Ed successfully snipes him before the Avatar State goes into beatdown mode he's fucking dead and it's not even close.

Isn't the Avatar universe like, way behind FMA in terms of technology? Can't Ed just like, transmute a gun and shoot Aang?

Ed's nullified the elements before, but nothing at the scale of the AS. Even he managed to no sell one of Aang's attacks, be probably be worn down eventually

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They're definitely gonna consider the Avatar State
It'll be in the fight no matter what

I don't think Ed has experience with firearms

If you ignore the giant robot with a spirit cannon, definitely.

Dropped db after mario and sonic.

ben is a sonicfag and he looks like a 50 year old man child now. He let himself go and I'm not surprised at all. Haven't watched db since 2011.

03 Ed does. He transmutes his automail into a machine gun and he (tries to) use one against Envy in CoS

Korra seems to be on a similar tech level, and it's about, what, 50 years after ATLA? Maybe 60. But then they do have mech suits in Korra. There's a tech tree gap, but Aang understands the concept of a cannon just fine, which is much more in Ed's character than a handgun.

he also physically ages and his body is beginning to fail him. So he's well past prime during FMA:B and still nearly unstoppable

>Ed worn out from a near constant barrage of Avatar State attacks
>Sees Aang preparing one final attack like the one at the end of AtLA.
>Ed, tired of all the kung-fu bullshit, just pulls iut a gun and shoots him in the middle of his attack.

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they won't use 03

Don't forget forklifts

Mario won the rematch

Korra would've likely had guns if it wasn't for censors

Do you think Envy could take Azula out of the equation by messing with her psychologically? I don't mean in a direct fight, but making everyone think she's crazy by changing into her mother and appearing in random places around her. Even if she doesn't actually have a breakdown I doubt Ozai would be willing to keep someone he believes is hallucinating around.

This.

Wouldnt Aang win since he has flight advantage, something that Ed has trouble with? Also, Ed needs to touch something to transmute, Aang can just keep blowing Ed to impotence

Oh Brotherhood only ok, my bad

Yo, I didn't even think about this. I actually think Envy could really do some damage by changing into her mother. We've seen that thinking about her can put Azula off her game so that's an idea.

Envy would probably have to do some reconnaissance before he goes for the kill, if he has to

>inb4 its Superboy Prime and Gohan gets torn apart limb by limb.

what if ed made a gun and just shot aang?

ed can essentially earthbend

They've said they stick to the primary source and 03 diverts too much to be used

That's OOC and he probably couldn't do that anyways.

Given they had Green Lantern be Universal and think Convergence makes all feats valid or some shit, Clark would stomp still especially after the Forger and Mxy feats

Also before you mention
>killing restraint is removed
It is but everything else is kept

Isn't he in the military? Wouldn't he have basic training in fire-arms?

Ling vs. Ty Lee.

Who wins?

How is it OOC? Does Ed have a no guns clause like Batman?

Ed will kill if absolutely forced to do it, no?

There's literally a subplot where Rize forces a gun on him despite his protests and he gives it back to her as soon as he can without really using it. And we see him fight a ton in the show and he never makes stuff like that so even if he's capable is up to assumption.

Not IC but morals off he would go for the kill with how he tackles Homunculus i.e. smash them with hands and spears and stuff like that.

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He is definitely capable because he makes cannons.

yeah, but not in the way aang can't manipulate it more than likely.

i don't think he could handle a fucking godchild if it came down to it. most of his wins are dealing with things outside the box.

and when your box is in CONTROL of ELEMENTS, yeah, i don't see a way out.

I think we all gladly forget that one.

but he wouldn't use a gun same way Goku wouldn't use kryptonite

Ed doesn't even have powers at the end of the show, he can't do shit

Change the shape and periodic element of any matter he touches instantly and freely. He can literally turn any atom into any other atom, and rearrange them to whatever structure he wants to. He can even apply complex artistry to them on the fly, so complexity is a non-issue. A lot of times he just makes bits of wall fly out at his opponent like an earth bender would, but he's also made canons that fire or other things like that.

Falcon vs Cage mega?

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I wasn't even aware there were adult Ben 10 fans.

>9 years
>Six Seasons
>Still no Galactus vs Unicron
>Still no Psychic vs Psychic episode
>Still no purely cyberspace episode
>Still no team vs powerful individual match
>Still no Cole MacGrath vs Alex Mercer
>Still no Ship to Ship combat death battle, traditional ships or space ships.
>Still no Samurai Shodown episode
>Still no death race (in vehicles) episode
>Tekken only used once
>Still no Macross, Ideon, Evangelion, Code Geass, etc
>Still no Kaiju Match since Godzilla vs Gamera
>Still no Travis Touchdown vs Scott Pilgrim
>Still no Dragon vs Dragon episode
>Still no horror monster/slasher episode
>Still no army battle since Eggman vs Wily
>Still no Team vs Powerful Individual episode

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I heard someone saying it should've Eren Yeager vs Edward Elric instead

Bem 10fags, at least the more vocal ones, are legit on the same level as DBZ fans when it comes to powerlevel talk.

Since the battlefield will likely have a decent amount of water around for Aang to bend Ed could potentially setup a hydrogen explosion to kill Aang. That would require Ed to disable the glider, but I think he could pull that off.

Ling. Especially if its Greed Ling

Ed has at least 4 kids. Aang, who has a nation to save from extinction, only had fucking 3.

Ed wins. Aang is an irresponsible faggot, and Katara's a frigid bitch.

At first I was thinking Aang would win easily, but then after reading this thread and remembering how much of a genius Ed was, I think Ed might pull a win. I feel like Ed is a better fighter than Aang, at least when Aang isn't in the Avatar State, plus Ed is way smarter than Aang. I'm sure Ed will just transmute everything that Aang throws at him and send it back at him.

i;m still pissed over Gundam losing, they hardly considered Amuro's abilities in the fight

We all know how this is going to end, Ed is going to "outsmart" Aang even though Avatar State would fucking destroy Ed easily and with no difficulty.

I couldn't give less of a shit about Ben10, but that death battle was complete bullshit. Alien X stomps Hal in every single way.

A group of homeless benders managed to take out Avatar State Korra. Azula nearly killed Avatar State Aang with lightning bending. Avatar State ain't invincible.

Dude, Matrix bullshit > Newtype bullshit

Ed is going to outsmart Aang but really it comes down to that Ed has a much finer control over matter than Aang does and also can control every element that Aang can and then some.

>who has a nation to save from extinction
Yeah about that

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I'm aware. Doesn't change what I said.

>If Avatar State is used during the middle
Aang's fucked, if a super form is used in the middle it ain't gonna do shit
>If Avatar State is used during the climax
Ed has a 90 percent chance of being fucked
>If Ed's automail is shattered/blown away/rusted/melted
He's guaranteed fucked

Could team avatar and the main members of the white lotus beat the homunculi? With or without Father?

What made you think this reply was relevant at all

*Tekken, Guilty Gear, and Darkstalkers only used once

Stan vs CIA when?

Nice.

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Sure, just firebend the shit out of them.

Maybe one or two of them, but no not all. Greed can straight up on-sale every bending style.

Stan should fight Archer
It surprisingly works seeing how American Dad somehow manages to keep things consistent in terms of power levels

usually whatever has more expanded media wins

No. Pride alone could solo everyone in the Avatarverse. Pride was only taken down because his shell was made vulnerable due to human transmutation. There's no way the cast of Avatar can actually make his shell crack.

Stan is durable as shit
not quite toon force
but the laws of physics in American Dad are far less grounded than Archer

not necessarily
Aang's comic feats don't really mean much for this fight

He doesn't have to be invincible, he just has to be massively stronger than Ed, which he is.

>much finer control over matter than Aang does

He still needs to obey the law of E.E.. What if Aang generates a whirlwind and blows him into the air? No earth bending. And he ain't out airbending an airbender.

Ed can win, but it's going to be through some bullshit trickery, not raw power. Aang has him beat, period, he's a walking natural disaster, especially when he's angry.

Even lightning and blood-bending?

Can't Avatar State Aang just destroy those pillars when he's still making them or render the ground asunder for Edward to be unable to stay focused?

There are literally panels earlier in the thread of ed dodging one, and even then he fought two of the failed wraths, who also dodge bullets

Pride has a limited amount of souls aka lives just like any Homunculus. Tiger Boy was wailing on him for a while and when Pride was given some light to fight back he comments that he's taken quite a beaten and could be "wiped out" if this keeps up so he assimilates Gluttony's souls. Bumi could potentially be a solid counter if he can contain him. Honestly Bumi is stupid OP I've always thought he made Ozai and Iroh and the rest of the White Lotus look like chumps.

You're thinking of Greed. Pride is the little boy who can control his shadow

The entire point in the finale of brotherhood was that equivilant exchange was bullshit anyways. It should have been obvious from the start since simple things like repairing a shattered object involved moving the pieces around and that energy just comes from nowhere.

Watch it be just them promoting their new board game
We /tg/ now

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Pride used human transmutation which used his philosophers stone

Bumi would fuck Greed up.

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Energy is a non-issue, it's the materials that matter. When it comes to materials EE cannot be broken, unless you have a philosophers' stone.

>What if Aang generates a whirlwind and blows him into the air?
Covert Nitrogen in the air (more abundant than oxygen) into Hydrogen and detonate it. You don't seem to understand that Ed has literally full control of every single periodic element and all of their properties, and its impossible to separate him from access to this without generating a vacuum.

Yes.

>There's no way the cast of Avatar can actually make his shell crack.

Aang could freeze him with waterbending and burn him with firebending, alternating between the two over and over again.

Wow you are fucking stupid. It's like you realize the correct answer but actively choose to not put it together.

So what's to stop Aang from metalbending half of Edward away?

>Covert Nitrogen in the air (more abundant than oxygen) into Hydrogen and detonate it

How in the fuck is he not caught in the explosion? That would cause a massive chain reaction.

Absolutely would not work. You dont freeze people with water bending, you freeze water around them, that's why everyone every fucking time was able to escape. Even if that was how it worked, it would still fail.

What the fuck are you talking about? The stone is an exception to the rule.

He never learned how to metalbend. Same answer to people who think Aang should bloodbend.

Aang never learned metalbending
Its been mentioned that Korra was the first metalbender Avatar

It's hard to do any sort of complex alchemy without prep, though. It took Ed a while to figure out how to transmute Greed's armor and Armstrong being able to carve stuff into the projectiles he throws on the fly is considered an amazing amount of control

Aang doesn't know how to metalbend. You're also assuming the metal has enough impurities in it to earthbend.

Convertain automat to shield. He does alchemy on his arm every single episode dumbass. Like I said, you do not understand the level of total control Ed has.

>detonate hydrogen producing fire
>that thing he can control

>without generating a vacuum
>that thing airbenders can actually do

Forgot about that. Seems out of character for him not to spend enough time with Toph to learn that.

>If Aang wins
"Poor Ed. He just couldn't 'Aang' in there."
>If Ed wins
"In the end, Aang got bent out of shape"

Ed isn't like Armstrong, point is moot. And it took him a minute to think of the idea for greed, once he has the idea executing it was instant. It did not take him any time to perform.

If Ed was actually able to make huge explosions out of nothing but thin air he would have done so at some point during the series. What you're describing actually exists in the setting and it's Roy's shtick. It literally took his master a lifetime to figure out how to do it, he only managed to teach it to one person before croaking, and it was so precious to him that he tattooed the theory into his fucking daughter's back.

A thing airbender cannot do, actually. And the point was that counters the whirlwind, not that it would be a one shot kill counterattack you dumbass.

Holy shit, can you get Ed's dick out of your throat for a second?

First of all, why in the fuck is Aang not reacting to him transmuting his arm and then causing an explosion? What, is he doing this in a millisecond? Secondly, why wouldn't Aang just bend the fucking flames caused by the explosion WHICH HE CAN TOTALLY DO. Thirdly, Aang can absolutely create a vacuum as an airbender.

This fight isn't as easy as you seem to think it is. I'm sure Elric semen is absolutely delicious to you, but calm the fuck down.

Probably Ling, I think they're faster which ultimately gives him too much of an edge. Maybe if Ty Lee had some rated R insta-kill Kenshiro pressure point she could win through a favorable trade, but from what's been shown Ling should have it.

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Wrath alone would solo them. The Homunculi without Wrath and Father would be capable of winning it too. Sloth and Gluttony would be too faster and powerful for Team Avatar & White Lotus. Greed might not be as fast and powerful physically in comparison to Sloth and Gluttony, but he is significantly more durable. Greed would tank everything they threw at him like its nothing. Pride would just be unfair. Lust and Envy are the weakest link. Although Envy should do fine if he went for assassination mode instead of fighting in the front line.

Ed can just think of what he wants to do and clap, he has a superpower other alchemists dont have. It took Roy's master years to come up with the transmutarion circle, Ed doesn't need one he just need an idea. That, and converting elements to another element like I said is something that Ed does all the time in the show.

But we see an airbender create a vacuum multiple times in both korra and atla
aang snuffs fires all of the time with whirlwinds

You're getting into a step by step battle scenario of what ifs when that wasnt the point at all. user claimed that an upward whirlwind renders Ed useless and is a win for Aang, I gave one of many ways to get out of it.

And yet he never causes explosions to defeat any of the extremely dangerous enemies he fights throughout the series. It's almost like "converting nitrogen into hydrogen" is a fucking stupid idea that would cause a massive chain reaction that would fuck everyone up.

DUMBASS

That's not how his body works, stupid. Pride was not given a body like the other homunculi.
And you are also implying that Pride would just sit back and take it. Unless Aang knows light can momentarily stop him, he is going to be eaten at the beginning of the match.

captain planet is weak to pollution
basically all of them could create some sort of smog

Except they wouldn't figure out that weakness in time

A whirlwind is not a vacuum, and in Korra it was not a perfect vacuum which it would need to be to work, it would also need to be full-body which it was not, and even if Avatar State could pull off a full body perfect vacuum Ed can transmute his automail to reach outside it to transmute still.

>renders Ed useless

I never said that, I'm saying that once he's in the air his abilities are practically cut in half. You were the one claiming Ed has this in the bag when he fucking doesn't, at all. Aang is fucking dangerous, even though he isn't even taking full advantage of airbending. There is nothing stopping him from just ripping the air out of Ed's lungs and suffocating him, or just creating a blade out of thin air and slicing Ed to bits, aside from his morals.

He does all the time though, he did in the very first arc against the priest, what show were you watching?

What about the time he was going to beat that guy who turned his daughter into a dog to death with his metal arm.

>dumbass!
>stupid!

Does slurping Elric cum on the daily render you incapable of arguing without throwing in childish insults at the end of all of your sentences? Holy shit, grow up.

How does M. Night Shyamalan's FMA go?

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The one with a metal arm

When the fuck did he cause AN ATOMIC EXPLOSION when fighting the priest?

Ed did convert air into ammonia to beat the chimera that Kimblee brought with him, so I don't think it would be much effort make Hydrogen.
youtube.com/watch?v=MYfCu6lIwqU

My point was that it is literally impossible for Aang to render Ed at a disadvantage. You cannot separate Ed from his ability because it effect ALL MATTER not just specific elements, and even in the most extreme situations his clothes and automail can be used. Hell, Ed could convert everything in the battlefield to things Aang can't bend one by one, you do not realize how clearly stacked Ed is in this fight.

They did though. Ed brought him in one of the last episodes, which was fucking weird since after his match with Greed, he said he never killed anyone. Obviously fucking wrong though.

Aang rarely gets in close, he prefers to evade and keep foes at a distance using his glider as a staff
I don't even remember him throwing a punch

And what exactly are you do in your post if not exactly what you are denouncing.
You're on Yea Forums, get thicker skin you pansy cunt.

Wow one little insult and you get upset and throw a tantrum. For the record, I fully believe there's no way Ed can beat Aang. Calm down you spaz.

inb4 the entire stream's chat is full of Vic supporters and detractors

Aang could just imprison him with rock and then suffocate him Zaheer style...

But honestly that's dumb. If Aang can get him in a situation like that he's won anyways and he does not know how to do something like that nor is it his IC fighting style.

Didn't he use a stick of dynamite to get the ammonia.

I'll answer thar right after you tell me where I said anything about atomic explosions. I said igniting hydrogen, its flammable you retard you dont have to make a nuke to burn it.

Admonishing your childish behavior is what I'm doing.

>upset
More like embarrassed for you. Shit is annoying, just argue the point.

I already argued the point and what's more is that you clearly never watched either show. Just stop.

You cannot imprison him, he has more control over the rock than Aang does.

>And yet he never causes explosions to defeat any of the extremely dangerous enemies he fights throughout the series.
Its cause he doesn't know the formula. That other user is wrong, I'm pretty sure the implication is that if he knows the formula and has the proper materials he can perform alchemy without having to draw a circle. Specifically since he doesn't know the formula and procedure for Mustang's explosions he can't do them. That's why he only ever changes the shape of things and makes weapons cause its really basic stuff

Insulting is what you're doing you dumb fuck. Stop posting and look at yourself.

Ah shit meant for this

No he doesn't, if he can't clap his hands than he's helpless there's plenty of potential circumstances where a skilled earthbender could trap him.

You're right I forgot about that part. It's surprisingly hard to find clips of FMA for some reason.

Well this isn't random at all.

Alright I thought it was obvious but I guess it's really not, but I did not propose a Mustang explosion. Mustang just makes fire out of nothing, it burns no fuel and goes where he wants and breaks all laws in the universe. I said convent one atom to another which he does all the fucking time and then spark his automail which he does all the fucking time.

Tigger literally states that it is doing jack shit to him, meaning he still has the souls in his stone intact, if he was doing true harm he'd be less fucking nervous. Animals are implied to have some chi detection and so would a chimera. Pride just said he took a beating not that he would die. I assume he means his body.

Is this REALLLY the next battle?
The fuck type of parallels does Edward have with Aang?

I don't like anime dubs.

No rock is sturdier than his automail and Aang cant metalbend. You can't.

see Captain Planet fucking sucks, Yugo is too obscure and less demanded, and Edward vs Joseph Joestar makes less thematic sense

They both manipulate elements and are martial artists on the side. Should be obvious.

See Its Classical Elements vs Periodic Table Elements
Balance of the Four Nations vs Balance of Equivalent Exchange

They both control elements. Ed does so with science, Aang with spiritual kung fu.

Makes sense to me.

Aang doesn't kill, he can't win.

Goes both ways, so I imagine they're going to ignore that one.

He can just handcuff him with rocks. Ed isn't strong enough to break these cuffs.

I really don't see Aang winning this, there's an awful lot Ed can do with alchemy if he's really trying to kill his opponent. Then again, I guess the same could be said of Aang, and the difference here is that we've never really seen Aang actually fight with genuine intent to kill, so he could potentially get pretty nasty when the gloves come off.

Should be an interesting fight either way.

What if he cuffs both his arms but before the automail breaks free, Aang crushes his normal arm?

And if you want to press it, kids from lost civilizations.

Death Battles ignore that

Superior Yea Forums elemental monk of the early 2000s coming through

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>Ed can manipulate things benders can't
>no need to switch styles or focus to switch materials
>can manipulate elements of his own body(automail)
>wins every martial arts challenge by his body bring half weapon
>cannot be separated from materials or trapped
>can change material to other material to make them unbendable
>leagues of genius levels above Aang
>years of experience fighting many opponents that can manipulate more than one element, a fight Aang has never had once
>deconstruction alchemy is completely outside the capabilities or defenses of anyone in the entire avatar universe

The only advantage Aang holds is range, and even then he doesn't have meaningful range with every element so fighting to that advantage is limiting. Ed has this in the bag with little to no challenge.

Did you not read the post you replied to or what? Anyways its 1000x easier for Ed to restrain Aang if that's your win condition.

He's not elemental at all though

Why care for DB after Gaara vs Toph?

>I'VE TAKEN AWAY YOUR ALCHEMY, SO YOU CAN NEVER HURT PEOPLE AGAIN

>Pride: Gluttony... how many times have you died so far?
>Gluttony: Died? Lotsa times, I think.
>Pride: You're looking rather weak. I've taken quite the beating myself. At this rate, they might destroy us.
Pride is still a Homunculus, he has a limited amount of lives but he must have a staggering amount since he can be wailed on by a Chimera completely defenseless until the Chimera got tired and they're pretty much superhumans.

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Would Aang mistake Ed's powers as bending and try to depower him first?
Would Ed mistake Aang's for alchemy?

>implying Aang's will is stronger than Ed's, the character who out-stubborned god himself, two separate personifications of different gods

That shit would guarantee Aang being fucked because it'd be the perfect range for destruction alchemy/philosopher's stone bullshit

Even if they don't know what they're talking about, the shitposting can be funny and sometimes the fight itself can be okay. It's just some glorified Deviantart.

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There is no way in any sense Ed would ever mistake Aang for an alchemist. There are zero practical similarities. Aang might think Ed's a bender because he's a dumbass kid.

Speaking of Scar, who should fight?

Nobody was speaking of Scar.

Lets be honest, if it was Korra vs Edward all the people backing Aang would immediately side with Edward out of principle

user if it was Korra AND Aang against Ed I would still bank on Ed. The difference in scale is insurmountable.

The joke flew over your head

Then Aang suffocates Ed by bending the air out of his lungs.

Aang wins.

Aang's will is so strong he asspulled energybending just so he wouldn't have to compromise on his no-kill rule.

Nah, not really. I fucking hate Korra, but I keep shit objective when it comes to vs battles.

Aang almost lost energy bending against a spoiled rich brat who was borderline insane. Ed wins that mental battle easily.

We've already been over why that doesn't work.

Ew, I stepped in loser

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Calling it now, this is gonna be the "we spend 3 minutes using math" feat for Aang's side

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Shit, they really should do Yugo vs Aang.

? He's aligned with dark magic, and frequently makes use of water in his fights.

>Avatar comic is totally canon you guys!!!

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For context, its based on an image Ben made to explain why he chose Mewtwo vs Shadow

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Superior in what way? Getting his entire series raped during its relaunch?

they are whether the fandom likes them or not and Zuko and Mai were already broken up at that point

Aang got his series raped during its relaunch as well

imgur.com/a/hq67Y

> he doesn't have the control over air water and fire like Aang does
Not in the same way Aang does, no, but he can still transmute the chemicals in them to dissolve them or turn them into anything else

Is Aang smart enough to notice Ed needs to clap?

Probably not

It's gonna be another Gaara Vs Toph.

Ed would sweep 100%. He is military trained and has vastly more hand to hand combat experience, not the mention the metal arm.
You forget that most of the fighters, even the ones called jobbers, are top tier combatants. Krillin would dumpster Amon.

I want DB to do Accelerator vs Goku. The butthurt would be immense.

Alchemy doesn't work like bending, dumbass. The Truth would probably be cackling hysterically if Aang actually tried that

Assuming Ed can't clap during this (earth cuffed/at least one of his arms is demolished) and Aang is just standing like a dumbass, I'm sure we'd all be cackling

Earth. Cuffs. Dont. Work. On. Automail. Stop repeating esrthcuffs like you havent been told already.

DB threads are already flaming garbage, I can't imagine how bad they'd be. Probably bad enough to finally get kicked to /trash/.

What if it crushes his normal arm?

Now that you bring up Railgun, who would win in a fight between Mikoto and Static?

He just needs to make a circle. He can touche his broken arm with his automail arm and then touch the target with automail. That said, and this next part isnt confirmed its just theory, he could make a circle with his automail leg and automail arm by touching foot to hand.

Static doesn't have dials protecting him
He's strictly street level given his limited appearances compared to other characters

It was a joke, autist.

she has enough magnetism to throw sky scrapers, can strike them with light speed electricity that happens to be around 1 billion volts, or railgun a car at them at mach 3. I'm not too familiar with Static but i'm thinking pretty sure he is street-tier.

Static's pretty much street tier, so she'd wreck him, even without her mech suit. Since it's Deathbattle, she'll probably drop her mach 3 railgun tokens, since she specifically uses those to control collateral damage. At max potential, Static is a top tier leaguer and Mikoto is a Lovecraftian monster that attacks by corrupting the universe with her alien laws of physics. A better match-up for Static would be Cole Mcgrath, but given the chance, I'd like to see him fight Alex Mercer.

Cole's definitely fighting Mercer since when someone asked why didn't they do Mercer vs Carnage, they said it was highly requested but Mercer has been more requested to fight a certain someone

So would a better match for Mikoto be someone like Magneto or Polaris?

comic magneto would be a good against normal mikoto.

She'd be creamed

I take that back. I still think lvl 6 Mikoto would win

We need more Yea Forums matches

Mikoto would simply be too powerful for Magneto/Polaris. Mikoto is basically a fusion of Magneto and a thunder god.

>Avatar State
okay, look i've watched both shows, i like both shows, but the Avatar State is not that insanely powerful user, he doesn't become an unstoppable god. Hell, Azula took him out IN the avatar state (the start of it, anyways).
Given the powers of some of the people Ed has taken on and won against, the Avatar state is not an unbeatable opponent for him. And we're talking about an alchemist who can create almost anything he needs to fight with.

Actually, there's a decent risk that if Magneto tried to do anything really wacky like summoning wormholes, she'd copy it, so the longer the battle goes on, the smaller his chances are. Since they have a very similar power, but hers come with an enhanced intelligence pursuant to calculating everything that occurs within her sphere of influence, it'll be really hard for him to out-skill her. The biggest gap comes from raw experience. He can probably also amp up by leeching from the magnetic fields of celestial bodies, as I recall him doing against Ironman once, but in proper Deathbattle form, that'd coincide with the level six shift that turns her from electromaster to alien monster, so he wouldn't be able to directly contest her control anymore.

Let's brainstorm better opponents for Static, too. Maybe Red X from the TT cartoon?

see Aang has the superior environment control

>Aang closes the distance and uses his bending to strip Ed of alchemy
>Ed kneels on the ground looking non-plussed" "What are you doing?"
>I'VE TAKEN AWAY YOUR ALCHEMY, SO YOU CAN NEVER HURT PEOPLE AGAIN!
>Ed looks at him a moment as Aang draws back, secure in his moral and physical victory
>Ed claps his hands, transmute his arm into a blade, stabs Aang through the heart.
>"Nothing personal, kid, but alchemy is a science, and you can't just take that away from people."
>Katara runs of weeping into the arms of Sokka and Zuko.

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in what world?
aang controls four elements. Ed can utilize dozens, in ways that aang doesn't even understand. as anons have said previously, in earth bending they're equal, in water bending they cancel each other out, in fire bending they're potentially equal, the only thing ed might have superiority in is air bending, but that's countered by the literal madhouse of creations Ed can come up with.
Hell, if Ed really wants to fuck with Aang, he could do several types of non-obvious transmutation. If he see's Aang using a lot of earthbending, he could literally transmute veins of nitro-glycerine through the ground, so that whenever Aang tries to shift the earth, he's met by fucking massive explosions (hell, an ounce of ng is basically a stick of dynamite). At which point if Aang isn't incapacitated by the explosions he'll be unwilling to use earth bending lest it happen again. Ed can transmute any water sent his way into hydrogen and oxygen, at which point any fire Aang uses turns into a massive explosion as well. Aang tries to shoot lightning, Ed just has to make lightning rods pop out of the ground. Ed's practiced a lot to go up against Mustang, whose fire use far surpass anything Aang is recorded to have done. The only thing Aang has going for him is airbending, but Ed can make walls and other counters to that, all while being able to make different weapons on his own. And depending on the environment they're fighting in, airbending is not going to be all that useful or will be incredibly limited.

Then you don't know bencucks.

Ed also fought and defeated Kimblee w/ a Philosopher's Stone. Kimblee w/ a Philosopher's Stone is basically a air bender on steroids that create exploding air.