ITT: Stupid deaths

>Helspont gets built up as the main villain of the New 52
>Is just as strong as Superman
>Quietly gets ignored after one fight to come back to die to Red Hood and friends

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He was a pale shadow of his previous incarnations strength. He was never a good fit for DC, like most Wildstorm characters.

But yeah, it was one of the worst jobbing I've ever seen.

That mask is so fucking stupid

>Helspont
>lord of the daemonites and big name Wildstorm villain, primary nemesis of the WildC.A.T.S
>jobs to fucking Jason Todd
... I have no words for how awful this is.

"Integrating" Wildstorm into DC was a mistake.

Who thought it was a good idea to give Jason a mask that looks like a face

The same guy who managed to get a status quo for the book that people liked after the book was near-universally hated literally since its inception...and happily threw it in the bin and went back to doing shit nobody liked because editorial told him so.

>"Integrating" Wildstorm into DC was a mistake.

Jim Lee needed his ego to be stroked and to prove to everyone that the 90s Wildstorm characters weren't just a fad.

Y'know what, it isn't just the jobbing and tonal dissonance that made merging Wildstorm into DC a mistake. It's that Wildstorm is quite frankly a better constructed setting. Shit's consistent in that universe, with everything being connected in someway to just a few major factions, resulting in a minimum of clutter.

DC on the other hand, is a mess, with entirely too much shit going on at once, and creators who are obsessed with making new shit all the time without expanding on what already exists. It's a total clusterfuck.

Whoever thought slapping these two setting together, thereby adding even more clutter, should be slapped until they pass out. Fucks sake.

>strong as
He casually flicked Superbro into the moon to show how powerful he was.

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>oh no my quiver is on fire and about to explode
>should i take it off like a reasonable person and continue living?
>fuck that, i don't wanna be in a bendis comic anymore, better kill myself now before it's too late

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Fuck Slott

Better than what they are doing now, most characters are unrecognizable in The Wildstorm and the rest don’t seem to exist.

Is that Flash Thompson? Flash is dead now?

Remember when Willingham wrote that JSA Nazi storyline where Alan died via splinters and also Todd was an egg

Yes.

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Lilith's death in Titans/Young Justice: Graduation Day: Graduation day was stupid and pointless because Donna Troy's "death" in the same series was the only one the in-universe characters would talk about afterwards.

hawkeye made the right choice

with Bendis you never know whats going to happen to you

Willingham was a monumentally stupid choice to follow up on Johns. The same for Guggenheim. Both Robinson and Tomasi were much better candidates and neither got on the book. Even Eric Trautman who co-wrote a few Checkmate issues with Rucka and did JSA vs Cobra was pretty good.

Most of the deaths in death of the inhumans.
>join us or die, oh wait you want to join? sorry no cowards allowed
>Ronan wants Black Bolt to mercy kill him even though they hadn't actually started his procedure yet
>Karnak kills Maximus because nobody recognizes his face or voice
>Black Bolt kills that group at the end for no explained reason and it saves the day for no explained reason

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>Robinson
Isn't he the one who wrote the crossover where Todd and Jennie fuse and Alan got possessed

desu Andreyko would've been the best candidate at the time. Clearly loved JSA, wrote a nice Todd, and incorporated Sandra Knight and Iron Munro into Kate's history real nice like.

Also this. Pretty much proved that Inhumans had been going around in circles for the last thirty years. Hickman retconning away them ruling the Kree and introducing the Universal Inhumans Only for it to go nowhere and for Cates to destroy it. Marvel has no clue what to do with the Inhumans and their failure with the Inhumans revival is the surest sign.

Robinson was the original first writer on JSA, wrote Golden Age as well as having a long run on Starman.

Either way there is a lot of competent candidates for that book and instead DC went for the possibly the two worst guys.

robinson stopped being good bythe mid to late 00s tho
earth 2 was the best he got and that was mediocre

Robinson's run on Wonder Woman is definitive proof that he's lost his touch. All the Jason shit aside(fuck you Johns), the opportunity to revitalize Diana's rogues was utterly squandered in favor of... nothing, really. Shit, even Fontana's five issues were at least serviceable and even brought back Mayfly and Moot.

>Helspont gets built up as the main villain of the New 52
What in the HELL are you talking about? Where was he even teased? Grifter? I've not seen him once.

This one is awful.
I didn't even see this. What the fuck happened?

IIRC early New 52 Superman built up Daemonites as a threat too.

Unfortunately this wasn't Willingham

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>Isn't he the one who wrote the crossover where Todd and Jennie fuse and Alan got possessed
Wasn't that Guggenheim?

Ollie's original death under Dixon was pretty dumb. He got his arm stuck in a bomb, and refused to let Superman heat-vision it off. He blew up instead of just losing an arm.
Sure, that would definitely set him back as an archer, but one of DC's most popular Elseworld/Future stories features Ollie with one arm (The Dark Knight Returns)

>Robinson's run on Wonder Woman is definitive proof that he's lost his touch.
No, that would be Cry for Justice.

>flickef

In early 1996 Jeph Loeb killed the Externals who had be hyped as the next great X-Men/X-Force villains connected to Apocalypse and Larry Hama kills Tyler Dayspring/Genesis in Wolverine #100 who had no prior contact with Wolverine and had appeared just as a Cable villain.

Where do I begin?

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All of them.

Killing off established cape characters was a mistake.

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And they bring back old and tired X-Men villains like Sebastian Shaw, Selene, Sentinels, Magneto,..

Good riddance. Shitty 90's characters.

Nah it was Robinson. He was writing JLA at the time and wrote the JSA issues for the crossover.

the helmet he has right before he changes to the hoodie was the best

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>censor "shit"
>show a guy being ripped in half on the same page

still annoys me

Slott, Slott happened.

Wasp's death usually works.

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And you guys willingly spend money for this? Why?

You think that this shit is representative of comics as a whole?

In the U.S. Europe not so much.

Yeah, because every week there's a new Ultimatum and Identity Crisis being published.

Hate this death so fucking much.

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The holy trinity of stupid comic deaths

I'm still mad

>My king

Valkyrie getting off'd so Jane Foster could steal her job.

Loki getting eaten then getting a solo series announcement less than a week later

>All Marvel

Fuckin kek

Does Arcade ever pay for this?

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I wouldn't say Gay for Justice was all Robinson's fault. That series stank to high heaven of editorial.

Hazmat killed him but they pulled the "it was just a clone lol" card.

I thought his death was pretty shit.
If you're disillusioned with the Decepticons and are going to betray them to the Autobots, why the fuck are you going back to the Decepticons in the first place?
And if you're going back for the sole purpose of offing Starscream, don't do it in front of fucking Megatron when he's telling you to stand down. Do it quietly and then get the fuck out of dodge.
If they had just framed Dreadwing's death with a better set up, I could have been ok with it, but the way they wrote shit and just made me feel like the writers' said "we're done with him, let's wrap this up and chuck this shit in the trash."

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This is actually triggering. It didn’t even make sense.

Any of the recent Uncanny X-Men deaths but mostly Wolfsbane.

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Isn't she a superhuman werewolf with a pretty good healing factor? Those kids would've been beating her for hours before someone saw.

General Glory, a parody of Captain America but, IMO, was still pretty neat and kept Guy Gardner on a leash. Original died of old age and his successor was off screen killed by a bunch of nazis.

This is the only part of Armageddon 2001 that I remember

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Her healing factor is far on the superhero low end, like recovering from a broken bone in a few days instead of a few months.
But yea; she 100% could have just stood up and non-violently walked away, and there would be fuck-all a few random human dudebros could do.

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