Captain Marvel is a good Movie and Brie Larson is awesome. All you fags need to get over it

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I like the comedy in the movie. That's why its better than black panther.

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She wasn't amazing but the movie was fun. I'm looking forward to Captain Marvel 2 before actually having an opinion on Carol, and I hope we'll see Yon-Rogg again because the deleted scenes about him being geniunly in love with Carol and still choosing to side with the Supreme Intelligence made me very curious about him. And I like Jude Law a lot in general.

And to be honest I liked the scene where he wants a duel against her near the end but she just tells blasts him off, I like action scenes as much as everyone else but it's good seeing a main character actually being pragmatic instead of having some crazy speech about love or honor or some dumb shit.

Yea, I hope they make her and Jude Law a thing in the next movie.

great thread OP

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>can't even act

just google the writers name with the name of the article

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Yeah when at the end of the movie I thought he was being a creepy manipulative asshole all this time because that's what he looks like from her point of view and when the movie hinted that he saw himself as the supreme intelligence I was sure he was an arrogant piece of shit. I was really legit surprised when it turned out he was being like "it's not like I like her or anything you baka." And it's funny that he was completely right when he kept telling Carol to keep her emotions in check because in the end it also applied to him. He fucked up everything just because he wanted to bone Carol so much he let her live and tried to save her when she landed on earth.

Jude Law is either going to be severely punished for failing his mission and he'll want his revenge or he'll have a redemption arc.

I actually thought they were going to be a thing. But now Maria must be an old lady.

cute!

all she did for 9 months rather then get fit for her failed role

I haven't seen CM yet but I can't imagine it being worse than BP. What a shitfest

You know, the rumors about Carol liking underage people are true. I wouldn't doubt she liked Monica when she was a loli and now she'll end up with her, and this time it'll be legal.

I hope not

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but she called me a white duuuuude...

as opposed to what i really am... a meat popsicle

I liked the movie twist. but it should have revealed in the space ship. Not barn . She should be the one sending location to kree. Movie broke show not-tell rule in many places.
They should have made both skrulls and kree bad and done bad things to each other. Exception being Mar-vell and talos's family.

It was fine. I wish they hadn't sidelined her in Endgame.

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>I wish they hadn't sidelined her in Endgame.
Me too but the results would have been frustrating anyway. It's either
>she's introduced briefly to the main cast but fucks off somewhere and only shows up during the final battle because she's too OP
or
>she's introduced and has more screentime but since she's not very familiar with all the characters and she's OP she would have to be nerfed and/or everyone would complain about her being useless and yet so smug
The only way to make this work would have been to introduce her earlier in the MCU and that was planned but the dumbass CEO refused because she wouldn't sell toys or some dumb shit. Joke's on him, she's very popular now BECAUSE she's a female character and the writers and directors were so pissed off that they doubled down on the feminism propaganda. Everyone complain about that but given the context of how her movie and the Black Widow movie got severely delayed despite the characters' popularity it's justified.

The only toy I saw for her after the movie was a Barbie and it still hasn't sold in the store.

Captain Marvel isn't awful but its the weakest of the MCU, and thats saying a bit when you have Thor2 and IM2 to compare against.

Don't give a shit about the "girl power" stuff. Its just a poorly-done film. Larson is a surprisingly good actress but she demonstrates it not at all here. The story is a dumpster fire. The film offers nothing new and instead coasts for 2 hours on continuity gags, and lame ones at that.

Black Panther is the Weakest.

just counting origins it's better than Black Panther, Dr Strange, Thor and Captain America.

I liked Captain America 1 a bit better than Captain Marvel but other than that I agree. Also, T'Challa was way cooler and more interesting in Civil War than in his own movie but I liked seeing what Wakanda looks like a lot.

What about all the jokes around Everett K. Ross in Black Panther.

The jokes were just dumb and harmless. I hated seeing Ross because I'm so used to Martin Freeman speaking with his British accent that hearing him in this movie was one of the weirdest things I've ever heard. Benedict Cucumber as Doctor Strange was straight up uncanny valley. That's all I'm going to say about that character.

when will moonstone or quasar show up to put her in her place so she stops being so god damn cocky?

>Carol doesn't take Earth problems seriously
>which is why Thanos winds up getting the Infinity Gauntlet...twice

Bitch

I loved the plot twist with the antagonist:
>Yon-Rogg tells Carol to control her emotions because it will bite her in the ass later
>he actually falls for her over the years because she's impulsive and not an emotionless robot like the Krees try to be
>once she's lost on earth during a mission he's so worried for her that he completely fucks up his mission and put his team in danger
>he grew so attached to Carol that he tries to buy time to not harm her near the end of the movie
>the supreme intelligence tells him to stop an incompetent retard and having a boner for Carol and to fuck off
>mfw he was right all along about controlling emotions but he was just projecting because he was brainwashed by war propaganda and the supreme intelligence about it

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I don't think he seemed in love with Carol as much as he seemed fond of her like and he was also willing to nuke the Earth with her in it. Yon-Rogg was mostly in love with himself an

That sounds like it's made up in your head.

It's a thing that happens when movies are made to be vague so as many people as possible can project themselves on to it to the point where the movie becomes part of them.

Continued because the countdown got to me. But as I was saying that's why he sided with the Supreme Intelligence he saw himself in it and ultimately choose himself over Carol. He favored her and had an attachment to her especially since she was his pet project and his blood was in her (again it's all about him) but Yon-Rogg values himself above all else but he is not unwiling to kill Carol.

>Yon-Rogg was mostly in love with himself
I wonder if that's not exaggerated. In the deleted scene he looked like he really didn't like being with the supreme intelligence despite it looking like him. That scene gave me some really bad vibe, like he was being bullied by his abusive boyfriend or some shit. Doesn't really look like self-love.
youtube.com/watch?v=kZnAokrMhzw
youtube.com/watch?v=al7i_pbM8E8
youtube.com/watch?v=wkzgWaQrCHo
youtube.com/watch?v=5b31E5Rb2uk

That's what happens when a 2 minute long deleted scene makes the entire movie way ore interesting than the final product.

Why do scenes that would make a movie better keep getting deleted?

Whedon wanted to introduce her in Avengers as SHIELD related character and with a black Ms Marvel looking suit but Feige apparently said no because he wanted her to have her own movie.

OP stfu it's PIZZA TIME!!!

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He is in love with himself to the point he takes the Intelligence's abuse and the SI uses his self love to fuck with him and have dominance over him. Narcissism isn't suppose to be healthy.

If Yon-Rogg loved Carol above himself or saw her as the most important person he would have seen the SI as her

Although that would be a twist if Yon-Rogg suddenly saw SI looking like Carol.

I was reasonably entertained by the movie and its story about discovering your own strength and some shit. I can probably criticise it for some toxic feminist ideas, consider how her strength comes from shitting on everyone and not listening to people telling her to show restraint, but I don't really care, I had fun.

However, I don't really like her flying brick powerset, so I'm not excited to see here ever again - after you tanked a giant space missile in your face, there's not much interesting can be done.

I didn't say he loved Carol above himself, he can still love Carol more anyone else except himself. We don't know a lot about him so we can only speculate. Maybe he sees himself as the supreme intelligence not because he likes and admires himself the most but because he sees himself as the least worse in a way, because he doesn't trust anyone but himself?

>Although that would be a twist if Yon-Rogg suddenly saw SI looking like Carol.
This could happen in a sequel, he isn't dead yet so who knows.

The whole "control your emotions" and "discover your strength" messages sound good on paper, but IMO she was already controlling her emotions and aware of her strength from the beginning of the movie. I think the message is more like "you are aware that you have power, but men keep telling you that you aren't capable" if anything.

i love that carol is basically just a ragebeast goku style unga bunga punch warrior but neither anyone writing comics at marvel nor anyone in charge of writing the films want to embrace carol as a warrior retard

the moment where she growled back at that skrull showed more of her character than 95% of the rest of the movie and everyone knows it

>Quasar
Wendell is very laid back, he's not going to "put her in her place". Unless you mean Phyla (in which case fuck you), but she's much more of a fuck-up so if anything Carol will keep HER in check.
I liked the movie (largely, I think it needed more of the final act's action), but scenes like this would've greatly improved upon it. Shouldn't have been deleted.

This

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I don't understand it. Why is Disney trying so hard to shield her from criticism?? What makes her so damn special? Brie honestly is subpar

Feel the same way.

I watched some critical videos and read several posts about how empty her character was before watching it, but her mind was wiped for Christ's sake. Of course she would act wooden. It is like complaining Robocop doesn't act like Murphy the moment after he gets put into the suit.

In a sequel they can write her any way they want so it should be interesting.

Shame that we're never going to see her and Stark commiserate over their alcoholism like in the comics. Maybe she spends so long away from Maria and Monica in space that it alienates them from her and she has to form new relationships with other people.

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Somebody post her gross feet, I need to fap

>What makes her so damn special?
They want her to become the franchise's mascot, just like how Iron Man/Tony/RDJ represented the franchises for years. It's really just marketing, nothing to do with the quality of the movie.

Carol is replacing Steve
Dr Strange is replacing Iron Man
the two are very clear copies

To be frank she pretty much retained the same personality after regaining her memories.

They are doing class "chasing after people who don't watch our movies because we don't shit on white males enough" strategy and they don't want you to know that it's OK not to consume their media if you don't enjoy it or no longer its target audience.

The sense of entitlement was probably always present in entertainers, but in the last few years it really gotten out of hand.

It’s funny that they protected this movie so hard and yet let Dumbo remake die a horrible death

Oh no idea, might have something to do with targeted campaigns with a clear political slant in order to use this movie (and others like SW) in their anti-liberal, anti-sjw, anti-feminist pushback. A movie that in the end barely had any of that "anti male agenda" youtube outrage peddlers insisted it had.
Might be just my impression, though.

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Also Tom Holland said this today, but I really doubt it's gonna get the same slant Brie got, even though it's pretty much the same thing word by word:

>Tom Holland has called for more diversity in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

>The British actor, who currently plays Peter Parker (Spider-Man) in the acclaimed superhero franchise, was questioned on whether we can expect the inclusion of a major LGBTQ character in the future, to which he said: “Yeah of course.

>“I can’t talk about the future of the character because honestly I don’t know and it’s out of my hands. But I do know a lot about the future of Marvel, and they are going to be representing lots of different people in the next few years.”

>Holland continued further: “The world isn’t as simple as a straight white guy. It doesn’t end there, and these films need to represent more than one type of person.”
gaytimes.co.uk/culture/124016/spider-man-star-tom-holland-says-marvel-needs-to-represent-more-than-the-straight-white-guy/

Sad thing is, Brie was talking specifically about reporters and inclusion in press tours, while Tom outright says there needs to be more diversity, yet she's ostracized for it.

That doesn't sound like he's calling for the exclusion of straight white men.

As long as China and Russia are big markets for the movie industry we will only have half-assed attempts at representation like what happened in Endgame and the nameless gay man who says two sentences that can be easily censored. We'll most likely have some random troon in the MCU before any actual gay or bi character because that's trendy at the moment. So far we have:
>Valkyrie was going to be bi but it was in a subtle scene that was removed to avoid fucking up the pacing of the movie
>Howard Stark may or may not be so gay for Steve he gave Tony major daddy issues: youtube.com/watch?v=7RGvHo8FYlg . Also this: twitter.com/biaginger/status/1003349607806586880 but none of this is in the movies and Agent Carter was cancelled after two seasons and a cliffhanger.
>Justin Hammer gets a twink boyfriend in prison in a short movie or episode that nobody knows or cares about youtube.com/watch?v=mceyJxMuYFE
I've seen people very happy that there's a troon in Jessica Jones but I never watched this series. It's funny how writers and actors want diverse representation and some even ship specific pairings or aren't straight themselves like RDJ or Tessa Thompson but nothing will happen because of the Chinese and nobody wants to address that elephant in the room.

Considering that's not what Brie said either, I'd say it's essentially the same thing, then.

Racist.

Briefags/Carolfags are the worst.

I've never heard any legitimate non shitposty praise for the movie so I've not seen it.

Seriously? There's plenty of earnest positive comments in this thread alone.
>As long as China and Russia are big markets for the movie industry we will only have half-assed attempts at representation like what happened in Endgame and the nameless gay man who says two sentences that can be easily censored.
Agreed and it fucking sucks, because there's no good reason why these blockbusters need to be held to their standards more than the Western countries who make them, specially since Chinese movies make it to our side completely "uncensored" (as Western edits, I mean).

Didn't she decide to handpick her journalists? Did she still end up getting a white male journalist?

CM would’ve made Ant-Man numbers had it not been hyped up by Avengers. Prove me wrong.

Replace him with Miles. Sony proved Miles can be salvaged, Aaron Davis was already introduced in Homecoming, and Miles won't have the Stark baggage.

no, she just wanted more people of colour and women in the press rooms

What kind of Chinese movie would guarantee a "Western edit"?

>Seriously? There's plenty of earnest positive comments in this thread alone.
Link them?
Because "It' not as bad as X" and tier lists don't really tell me anything.

>"Moving forward, I decided to make sure my press days were more inclusive."

I hated Brie Larson the moment she tried to defend the atrocity that was the “A Wrinkle in Time” movie adaption.

Disney is building a critic proof bubble around all of its properties.

>Didn't she decide to handpick her journalists?
No. She only increased the spots in the press tours to include more representation, not remove seats.
>“About a year ago, I started paying attention to what my press days looked like and the critics reviewing movies, and noticed it appeared to be overwhelmingly white male,” Larson said when asked about her reasons for choosing Brown as her interviewer. “So, I spoke to Dr. Stacy Smith at the USC Annenberg Inclusion Initiative, who put together a study to confirm that. Moving forward, I decided to make sure my press days were more inclusive. After speaking with you, the film critic Valerie Complex and a few other women of color, it sounded like across the board they weren’t getting the same opportunities as others. When I talked to the facilities that weren’t providing it, they all had different excuses.”

>Did she still end up getting a white male journalist?
There were actually plenty of white journos in the press detail, and they actually got to see the movie as early as any other. There was no exclusion.

>There's plenty of earnest positive comments in this thread alone.
">Better than Black Panther" isn't praise on Yea Forums, given that Black Panther discussion was nothing but screaming WE WUZ KANGZ, crime statistics, and crying about niggers and white genocide.

I dunno, something like a heroic Chinese soldier shooting Trump in the head, point blank? I don't know how that would fare.
Right here And of course the whole discussion of the twist. But that's still up to you, if you don't like most of the MCU then you probably shouldn't bother, specially when you have people legit claiming that since she tanked a missile to the face, she's "uninteresting" (as if this wasn't the norm in the comics).

I mean, it's cool if she decides to choose them based on merit alone, but saying that she wants to have journalists based on gender and race comes off as discriminatory.

As for Tom Holland's case, it's more of a storytelling thing where identity matters a bit more, so it's a different story altogether. I'd probably keep an eye on him though just in case he acts entitled like Brie

And even with her off-screen behavior aside, I'm just not a fan of her acting in the MCU.

Glad that I plan to leave it after Far From Home.

>saying that she wants to have journalists based on gender and race comes off as discriminatory.
That's not what she said and nobody is getting discriminated...
Read the full quote:
>After speaking with you, the film critic Valerie Complex and a few other women of color, it sounded like across the board they weren’t getting the same opportunities as others. When I talked to the facilities that weren’t providing it, they all had different excuses.

you do know they advertised this movie as a sjw thing first
they called it the first super hero movie about a female hero

Not to mention that Captain Marvel fans who call people who have legit criticism towards her movie as "toxic white men" have soured my experience when watching it.

No they didn't. Why are you lying?

they literally did

Oh okay, "literally", care to link Feige saying those exact words?

>women of color
She approaches people of a certain group so that she can include them. I'm sure she meant that she wants to choose them based on merit without looking at their identities, but it doesn't come off that way. She could've worded it differently.

>they all had different excuses
What kind of excuses? What if some of the reasons were legit? How would we know?

why are you gaslighting
theverge.com/2014/10/28/7083641/captain-marvel-movie-announced-marvels-first-female-superhero
news.com.au/entertainment/movies/new-movies/how-captain-marvel-has-changed-superhero-movies-forever/news-story/8f0d9afb4d7a8282ba71ca29f9164e79
news.vcu.edu/article/With_Captain_Marvel_Marvel_finally_puts_a_feminist_superhero
lifenews.com/2019/03/05/captain-marvel-the-new-politically-correct-superhero-fighting-for-intersectional-feminism/
huffpost.com/entry/captain-marvel-is-the-first-female-superhero-film-to-pass-the-1-billion-mark_n_5ca64710e4b05acba4de32e6?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaHVmZnBvc3QuY29tLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANGB_IL6ekhSm1JjMqbfK6t8g9vXUn5xIysPm7rVPAnKy_W__KWWsRuF8KNQhP3JT1ifK9hIqcONpULt9ZnQoVgBz7rxYXxZB5ZicrLxsM4VF5O0Szt-o5OtBoQE07AZ0qiv9nK0npw4rd_rk3Nfol9Ph3e3usnTgOdG_4VOXg0f

Do I even have to bring up the lead actress saying she doesn't care if White Males don't like her movie

none of those say first female superhero. They say first Marvel Female Superhero. you understand what "literally" means don't you?

>She approaches people of a certain group so that she can include them.
So... Who's getting discriminated here? Because white men were already part of the equation.
>What kind of excuses? What if some of the reasons were legit? How would we know?
That's part of the problem, a lot of these press tours only have the exact same people from the same outlets, while smaller ones (even those that deal with female topics, which would obviously appeal to a movie like this) are excluded. The "excuses" are that they just don't give out enough press cards or consider them non-important because they aren't bigger. Lots of reasons, and which cause that yes, minority groups end up excluded because not all of them will land a job at E! Entertainment.

The very first link:
>'Captain Marvel' will be Marvel Studios' first female superhero movie
>Marvel Studios'
At no point they said THE first female superhero movie.
Second link:
>Marvel’s first female superhero movie hits cinemas today
>Marvel's
Third link:
>With ‘Captain Marvel,’ Marvel finally puts a feminist superhero in the cinematic spotligh
>Marvel finally puts
And I'm sure it's the same with the others.

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fine here is one that says first female super hero movie
theguardian.com/film/2015/apr/14/captain-marvel-women-writers-hired-for-first-female-fronted-superhero-movie

Yeah, and that one says
>THIS ARTICLE IS MORE THAN FOUR YEARS OLD
Right on top, because, newsflash, this was BEFORE Wonder Woman was even in production.

the main point was how the movie was advertised as a political movie before youtubers made vids about it

Trash

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you know there were female super hero movies before WW right?

And the point is moot because the movie wasn't advertised much different than Wonder Woman, which was the first female superhero movie of the DCEU. Was it not?

All of them irrelevant. What, Supergirl?
Neither Elektra nor Catwoman count as "superheroes".

it was still advertised a political movie
just because WW did it first doesn't matter

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>these movies don't count because they prove me wrong

>So... Who's getting discriminated here? Because white men were already part of the equation.
You and Brie Larson divided people into women and men, and white people and "people of color" when they don't usually matter in journalism, unless she said something along the lines of "Captain Marvel is a feminist movie so it should have more female journalists because they have a perspective of how it feels to be a woman".

>That's part of the problem, a lot of these press tours only have the exact same people from the same outlets, while smaller ones (even those that deal with female topics, which would obviously appeal to a movie like this) are excluded.
She could've put that in the interview and not cause confusion then. I wasn't aware about big and small press outlets until you brought them up.

It was genuinly written like ass. Her charcter doesn't learn anything or overcome anything. She literally doesn't have any obstacles or flaws in character.
MCU is stuff with mediocrity. But Homecoming and CM were it's first truly bad movies (yea it wasn't Thor Darkworl or Ironman 2)
Saged

Okay, again, show me official advertising that talks about it being a "political movie".
Not articles with flimsy wording, not videos nitpicking a poster, a trailer that says "this is political".

Neither Elektra nor Catwoman are heroes, why are you grasping at straws? They don't count, deal with it.
Again, none of that is discrimination, you're avoiding the question. She was talking about being inclusive, and she included more people. Who was getting discriminated?
>She could've put that in the interview and not cause confusion then.
She has mentioned this before in other interviews though, that's why I brought it up.

>Again, none of that is discrimination
How is that not? I don't want to be defined by my race and gender. Yes, even by people who claim to fight racism.

>She has mentioned this before in other interviews though, that's why I brought it up.
OK, which interviews? And why didn't the article make a brief mention and why didn't more people mention it?

>Okay, again, show me official advertising that talks about it being a "political movie".
Not articles with flimsy wording, not videos nitpicking a poster, a trailer that says "this is political".
how about the main fucking actress saying it
the movie is political and everyone knows it
>Neither Elektra nor Catwoman are heroes, why are you grasping at straws? They don't count, deal with it.
Supergirl is a hero and catwoman is usually an anti hero now

disney shills still trying to defend this shit

>being inclusive to other races is racism
this is your brain on right wing /pol/

>inclusive
not inclusive when you shit on a race

Heads up, I've never engaged in /pol/.
I just want to be viewed by what I do, not what I am born with.

Okay, you got nothing. Catwoman is most definitely not a hero btw, anti-hero doesn't cut it. She's a thief with a heart of gold but still a thief who's an antagonist to Batman.
>How is that not? I don't want to be defined by my race and gender. Yes, even by people who claim to fight racism.
This is bizarre as fuck, I don't even know where to begin.
>OK, which interviews?
There's some on youtube, but honestly? I'm not going to sift through it again to find the exact one, I'm not that invested. But I will respond to this
>why didn't more people mention it?
Because people STILL fucking think she said she didn't want white men watching her movie, something she never even implied.

wow amazing how Supergirl doesn't count because you don't think it should
amazing

>shitting on a race is just asking more people into the press tour
again, right wing drugs

Supergirl is a hero, but that was a TV movie. Not the same thing is it?

And that's not the worst thing. That journalists are part of the Hollywood fanboys that see animation like a childrens product and are the ones who take the oscarbait.

OK but she would still dismiss criticism of a movie because it's from a white male.

She only said that because of A Wrinkle In Time, not Captain Marvel, which can be argued is for "everyone" since it's MCU.

Supergirl 1984 was a feature film
the fuck are you on about?

So, it's still a movie nonetheless. You can acknowledge that some of the criticism from white men are influenced by their upbringing, but don't just dismiss it out right as if it doesn't matter.

people defending this shit is laughable
gaslighting and moving the goal post is all they can do

Are you the same retard spamming pics of Brie? Because clearly you're not even reading the thread, since the discussion moved elsewhere.

case and point

nice bait wanker

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>First time checking Co since Shazam dropped
>see another Carol thread
>why?

Carolfags are the new Snyderfags.

Not that user but so is the praise.
The amount of waifuism in this thread is embarrassing.

So you conclude that public reception of a movie is largely subjective?? Whoa, mind blown. You should write that down elsewhere.

The same critics tha destroyed Godzilla 2?. They can't see outside of their Hollywood shilling.

Basically, their criticism matters if you liked the movie, and it doesn't if you didn't. It's that simple.

No, they don't even want to acknowledge animation as a medium and are apparently incapable of rating fairly anything that deviates of Hollywood ortodhoxia.

Fair enough. But that's critics as a whole, what my point was (poorly phrased) was that you really should listen to those critics you like and can rely on, because all in all the opinions they give will resonate with you more than whatever the general audience or run of the mill paid critics will say.
I even stopped listening to what RLM had to say because they clearly became overtly jaded while refusing to review anything of substance, so I looked for critics who actually did the legwork.

You hate the critics because they don’t like your crappy monsters movie?

>while smaller ones (even those that deal with female topics, which would obviously appeal to a movie like this) are excluded. The "excuses" are that they just don't give out enough press cards or consider them non-important because they aren't bigger. Lots of reasons, and which cause that yes, minority groups end up excluded because not all of them will land a job at E! Entertainment.

Covering blockbusters films press tours are not a right or social policy. They don’t like it? Whine some more.

No, because they are more like a Yea Forums board. Trusting them to rate movies that are not hot in Hollywood is like trusting Yea Forums to rate anime.

Are you seriously defending the way big media outlets monopolize these press releases even when it comes to covering events in smaller areas where these outlets have more presence? Come the fuck on.

>Come the fuck on.

Covering entertainment news is not a right. Any company can choose freely who to invite. You can emotionally cry all you want, but that’s how media works

OP back- I don't like movie critics, but I like this movie.

It's not a right, but then we go back to the reasons behind these outlets getting privileges above others and how they're getting picked before others, just because they have deep ties within these communities. And on top of that, if you're saying any company can choose freely who to invite, why are then people here criticizing that Larson says she would want to include others?
It's hypocritical to say the least, specially since she's a crucial part of the press tours after all.