Mr. Enter's Growing Around

Okay, I know I'm late to the party, but what the fuck is this even?

It needs to come out sooner. I can't wait to see this thing

Of course not

A cartoon pitch by cartoon episode reviewer Mr. Enter. Kids act like adults and adults act like kids and there's no much else to it.

It's a passion project that he can't let go of.

A concept that Enter took from this short.
youtube.com/watch?v=9eBKN35UpuE
He thought that the premise was fantastic but that execution left a lot to be desired.
He thought the concept should be done again by someone who could do it better.
That someone ended up being himself.
Difference is in that short the kids act like adults and vice versa, while with Enter's thing the kids and adults still act like how they normally would, it's just the roles that are reversed.
The whole premise leads to a lot of weird and unfortunate implications if you think about it for more than five seconds.
And while he's answered some questions about his world he refuses to answer anything that might be uncomfortable so you're just left to wonder just how badly can things go in that world.

Honestly he should just drop the whole thing and do something else, but according to him he's so deep into it that he doesn't want to back out.

I'm curious now, does Enter have an actual explanation as to how kids got into power like this? Like, was society collapsing and the adults were like 'well, since kids are pure and innocent, maybe we should let them run the place and see what happens since it can't get any worse' and that resulted in this setting? Surely he's got some explanation for why the world is like this.

Dinosaurs
Just. Dinosaurs

Back in the stone age some kids killed some dinosaurs in a way that the adults couldn't figure out.
Kids are now in charge of society for the rest of time.
That's literally it.

I think has the right idea. The concept is so odd and raises so many unsettling questions that the only way to really salvage it is to remove adults from the spotlight, maybe take them out of the show entirely. Of course, once you've done that, you're basically just making a worse version of Codename: Kids Next Door, so why bother?

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This is the only good answer. A bizarre and outlandish premise like this should l be treated as such. It would be much more bearable that way.

Are you guys serious? That's seriously it? That's really fucking dumb. Way worse than what I was expecting.

Even cartoons need consistent world logic. This just sounds dumb.

Maybe there’s been a retcon but that’s the latest I know of an explanation

Wow that short was really bad and I seriously don't see how anyone can watch that and think "Yeah I want to do a whole show like this"

Yes, we're fucking serious.
Yes, it's fucking dumb.
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Well it’s like, his mindset was taking the premise and doing it BETTER
There’s something of a pride element to it, since he talked such shit there’s extra need to deliver

But we know where that’s gone so far

I don't know why it's so important for anons (and Enter) to make sense of this ridiculous idea. Cartoons and capeshit are full of puzzling concepts that nobody bothers to analyze in such detail. Does anyone think how the laws of physics and evolution explain the blender dimension in R&M? Kids being in charge is far from being the most unusual thing I've seen.

They kind of do and kind of don't. KND gets namedropped in Growing around threads al the time, but the "world-building" in the show if you think about it for more than 5 minutes, but they expand on their settings in ways that feel natural to you watching as a kid. They also did it after the fact, whereas Growing Around is stuck worldbuilding a retarded setting.

I honestly think this could work, if it had a better framing device. It needs a gimmick, keeping it a generic "family comedy" keeps the focus on the least interesting parts of the concept. Have it set at the DMV or the post office or something- a setting that's quintessentially "adult"- and show us how kids run it. That's what would give this idea legs.

Like, you guys ever watch Filmore? It's a police procedural, set in a middle school. It has all the archetypes you'd expect from a typical cop show- reformed criminal protagonist investigator who sometimes butts heads with chief of police for his unconventional thinking, snarky deadpan partner, uncooperative crime scene witnesses, occasionally antagonistic news media, a chase scene damn near every episode... It was basically kids behaving like adults, with the show itself playing the concept completely straight. If that's the vibe Enter wants his show to have, he should take notes.

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Now there's a show I'd always make time for.

Yeah that's true enough

Filmore! was pretty top tier Disney Channel watching.

His whole problem is the world isn’t likable to the viewer, because the parents will always seem miserable given the scenario. It’s the problem Disney executives had with original Zootopia, you hated everything about the world. Enter can’t as easily fix his version of the problem, because he wants to do cookie cutter family relations slice of life plots for some reason that only point out the broken concept.
The fix is to focus on a kid dicking around with entertaining fantasy plots, and then slowly move onto introducing the adult characters depicting their situation as nuanced. Make family he’s already created side characters that become involved in the life of some bright-eyed kid, which from there the cynicism of mom character I don’t the name of is balanced with Enter insert dad character’s optimism of the world. The two kids are optimistic and pessimistic, but they're the kid version of that creating a balance. A coming of age story in a weird world. Rip off the recent South Park games by having MC constantly end up in wacky situations, because other kids keep talking about just understanding this kid for some reason. Two kids Enter created always end up going along with the MC, or in a weird side plot, and it turns into a running gag that the boy has never actually worked a day in his life due to shenanigans despite being a high-strung workaholic. This version of the plot requires the world actually be built out in fun ways, which for some reason Enter doesn't want anything to do with. Political system, other countries, the opportunities would be endless.

But I think this this idea does more of what Enter wants to do then mine does.

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The world building of KND falls apart if you think about it for more than 5 minutes, but the show is good enough that kids usually don't think about it.

You are completely correct.

Something like Filmore might actually work for Enter's world.

It could be interesting as a horror dystopia story about a bunch of adults trying to re-take control from the children who have control over all of the tech that the adults had slaved over making for them.

>How would you improve it?

By trashing it make making something that isn't shit from the ground up.

Yeah, I remember in some previous threads that people were saying how this would make for a great horror story with how dystopic the setting is.
Like, a lot of people have to try to make something that's so bleak, and he's trying to make it a kinda wacky, happy-go-lucky kid's show.

Anyone remember when Yea Forums messed up their wiki?

Now I just want to see more greens of this. Or write one myself.

As it is, Growing Around is just an incredibly boring idea.

How does reproduction work exactly?

Same as normal.
Then the parents raises the baby until it's old enough to be in charge of them.

But if kids are in charge how can adults be allowed to make decisions like reproducing and raising children?

If I had the capacity to write I'd totally make some.

The adults are still the ones that make the babies.
The adults are in charge of the household until the child is like 3 or 4 years old, at which point the adults will relinquish control an put the child in charge.

Beats me.
I do know that adults that -don't- have children are put into an orphanage type place.
A "home for the childless" is what I think it's called.

If a kid has sex with an adult in this universe, who's the one that gets in trouble?

Bridge to Terabithia it. This is all the imagination of a child trying to cope with the unfairness of the world. There, done, now you don't have to worry the unfortunate implications.

>in this world is ok to have sex with little kids
>imagine being a 12 year old girl giving birth to a 39 year old man

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That's not how it works user
>Adults still give birth to babies in which they are educated in nursery and given full control of their lives once they become three years old

>ywn watch a 12 year old girl pregnant of a 40 year old man
One job, Enter

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This is one of those things that doesn't make sense about the setting and complain about.

Enter's retarded, but not -that- retarded.

The same as in our world? Storks bring babies into people's houses, duh.

>Everyone in the world has Benjamin Button disease
Would make more sense than what we got, and would explain why people who look like kids are in charge.

this is, quite fucking literally, a fetish thing.

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POTATO

>yet another potential media product promoting the false idea that dinosaurs lived in the stone age
I expected better from Enter's autism.

Enter used to nitpick physics in SpongeBob in some of his older reviews. Something like
>yes I know the show has made jokes about it but this shit is not the joke here so they have no excuse

It was more cringy than funny. Almost as if actual summer kids did that...

I think they only way to improve this would be to0 just make it like a mini-series/gag-series of shorts and leave it at that. I can't see this premise holding a full series.

>Dystopia setting (many were saying this world was like that.)
>People are born with their experience and knowledge in full. In this world experience is something one can lose, like the signal in the brain has been lost. As the kids grow up they lose their experience and knowledge into their adult years.
>The world presented is in an “inbetween” of a modern world and a dystopia. While the adults themselves are in charge it’s becoming clearer and clearer within recent years that they just can keep up with the next generation. There has even been moments recently where kids have gotten into the government positions.
School system in this world is presented as: Elementary School = 12th grade, Middle School = 11th, Highschool = 10th.
>It isn’t uncommon for adults to have children just because that at some point as the adult gets older that they will lose all experience until their body can barely function anymore.
It isn’t uncommon that some children have killed themselves because they were scared of growing up and losing the experience as apart of themself.
>Silly premise for a story so there will be silly exaggerations
>There has even been incidents of where adults have been kidnapped by children called Adult Napping. It’s reported that these adults are being sold off in the blackmarket as slaves to children
>The main characters is a pair of Father and Daughter that adopted one another.
>The father lost his original daughter because of a mistake on his part because he lost the experience that would have saved her life.
>The daughter was abandoned by her mother. Her mother hated her because she was getting dumber and dumber and will never be as bright as her daughter. So she just drove off one night and never returned home, leaving her daughter crying into the night.

The best way to make it work is to not take it too seriously and make it short enough to where you don't have to think about the logistics and weird implications too much.

Which is how the original did it.
youtube.com/watch?v=9eBKN35UpuE

Not just the unfortunate implications, but something like this would only really work in short bursts.
Having an entire series just stretches the base premise pretty damn thin.

That's retarded

I'd have to guess the kid.

Since kids are the ones in charge and should "know better", I'm guessing the child would be the one to get in trouble.

Enter used to nitpick EVERYTHING in his older reviews, to the point where he took a random one-off joke that Patrick made in one episode and applied it to the ENTIRE SPONGEBOB CONTINUITY; which is even dumber when you realize that Spongebob doesn't really even *have* a continuity to speak of.

We learn the origin of this whole thing is four generations of Trumans in multiple sitcoms in some domed arena.
The original actors who knew of the outside world all died off already.

Why is he being so weirdly stubborn about the whole "There is no audience for this, no one will want to watch it" thing? He just wants to spend time, money, and effort on something just to have it made and for no other reason?

I was thinking this, it's one of those situations where you specifically do not delve any deeper at all, everything is to be taken at face value, and nothing dramatic or consequence never appear at all.

is this a world everyone has Benjamin Button disease?

>His whole problem is the world isn’t likable to the viewer, because the parents will always seem miserable given the scenario. It’s the problem Disney executives had with original Zootopia, you hated everything about the world. Enter can’t as easily fix his version of the problem, because he wants to do cookie cutter family relations slice of life plots for some reason that only point out the broken concept.

This is a common problem when you have some creative that wants to share their "Vision" like this. They cannot take a step back and realize that no matter what this is still a piece of entertainment media, a product meant to be sold to an audience and keep them interested in more.

Some directors get so far up their own ass about telling a story that they cannot really fathom people not liking it or not wanting to pay money for it. They just ignore detractors and keep powering through with rebuttals like
>It's not for you
>Then go watch something else
And yea, they will definitely go do that. They will go watch something else that was made to be liked by the viewer, not made to be loved by the creator.

Bascially he says that he's in too deep to step back and pull out now.