How would the Time Lords fare in DC/Marvel universes?

The same man who regularly has to whore his soul out for more power like an extremely cheap hooker to stand against mild cosmic horrors? Dr Fate or any Lord of Order would be a better fit.

>time twister

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Time Lords, as the elite of Gallifrey have a fucking op weaponry, infinite energy source, and they are literally able to manipulate matter with stuff like the hand of omega.

And even without the military force, they still have access to time-travel and are crazy smart although not on the level of the Doctor or the Master.

>my only knowledge from X character comes from shitposting!
>DC is better!

Like a clockwork.
Honestly you should stop posting altogether, this is getting embarrassing.

Kang would probably think they were him or something.

The time lords, and Rassilon more directly, imposed physical reality and linear time on a previously chaotic, unscientific universe where magic was possible. The "fixed points in time" are the framework on which normal reality is applied. The Time Lords understanding of this Web of Time is what allows their form of time travel. To my knowledge the Doctor doesn't know any of this, he just knows the laws of the Time Lords, not why the laws exist.

>being a Marvelfag
>honestly thinking THE soulslut matches up to a full-blown Lord of Order
I thought we already thoroughly educated you faggots on how much better DC magic is, simply on principle.

Time Lords are basically Great Old Ones or Outer Gods beneath the 'human facade.' They are not your friends - this includes the Doctor.

>instantly proving himself to be a company warrior faggot like every good DC drone
>admitting to spamming and falsefagging the "DC magic is better" threads, like the good retard he is
>"it is better because i say so REEEE"

Reminder that animals, pigs in particular, belongs to farm.

>this includes the Doctor.
no, it specifically excludes the Doctor, he's the only one who actually cares for the rest of the universe. That's his shtick.

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Hey Ladderbro. How goes the dicksucking?

More or less.

The Doctor is the only exception to the Time Lords being dicks thing. He's still an eldritch abomination in a skin mask, but he genuinely enjoys it, unlike the others who'd probably give up their own in an instant if the need struck them (coughcoughRassiloncoughcough).

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>No u REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

If you mean the Linear Men, then yes.

You're the only one screeching here, Ladderbro. You outed yourself the instant you used "DC drone."

Time Lords = Linear Men = the Time Variance Authority

Unoriginal ideas all around, same well they drew from.

The Time War was a retarded idea in the first place and I'm glad it got retconned out of existence. Sacrificing an entire race and element of the story off-screen so that the Doctor could be mysterious and wangst every three episodes was one of the worst parts of nu-who

The Time War still happened. What we were shown in the show was literally its very end as the Time Lords were getting whittled down.

Long game to feast on the souls, hopes and dreams of his companions. Look how quickly he gets over them.

He HAS to get over their deaths quickly. If he didn't he'd either go completely and utterly batshit, or genuinely entertain the possibility of going back and saving them, which would lead into the first point along with completely breaking time as a concept.

Even with that, the Doctor never forgets his companions. He'll reminisce on all the people he's lost in those moments when you can breakthroughthe shield of alien happiness and wonder, and those are the times when you can best see just how old he actually is.

Yeah, but now at least they have an excuse to bring them back into the main story and actually have the Time Lords be an obstacle/resource for the Doctor again. Plus, we don't have to put up with him whining on and on about how he's 'the last of the time lords'

Azathoth in a blue box is never sad. Just waiting.

How do you make the Daleks both powerful enough to fight all the Time Lords at the height of the power and weak enough to lose to the Doctor?

The Daleks not only had all the same tech as the Time Lords, but we're both intelligent and ruthless enough to use it at max efficiency. Them losing to the Doctor comes solely from him being the only thing capable of making them feel something close to an approximation of fear. He causes them to panic and create flaws and weaknesses in their plans, which he abuses to take them down.

They did save his life from outside the universe when they gave him a new slew of regenerations, keep in mind.

They only did that so he'd get them out of their inter-universe hell, and then they did it on their own anyway.

Also they gave him one good regeneration and then immediately dumbed him down by making the next regeneration a retarded cockney orphan boy in a rain coat.

Yeah, superheroes are too chaotic a concept, and could lead to Earth dominating the universe in the future and threatening the Time Lord's supremacy.

Hope baby Kal-El enjoys a nice time loop, while Marian Manhunter becomes the next 'scary monster of the week' that's ultimately destroyed by UNIT or Torchwood. Darkseid? If a time loop doesn't work, I'm sure arrangements can be made...

>a retarded cockney orphan boy in a rain coat.

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I like Jodie, she's a brilliant actress. I like the idea of her being the Doctor, but in practice she's been fucking awful. It's like she's trying really hard to be Tennant and Smith but failing spectacularly and consistently. She needs to come into her own still, she has potential but if she keeps up what she's currently doing she'll easily be remembered as the worst Doctor.

You and I both know Rassilon is going to bullshit himself into being a New God, complete with cult.

Its completely possible to make a good female Doctor but people are too focused on virtual signalling to do that."
Its sad that a Red Nose Special had a better female Doctor with only like 2 minutes of screen time then the entirety of season 11 has with Jodie

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I blame Chibnal, honestly. Jodie has proved she can act in other things, it was probably his idea to make her so fucking stupid.

>she'll easily be remembered as the worst Doctor.
I don't know about that. Six and Seven were pretty lame.

>Seven
>lame
You take that back, motherfucker.

Hello commie.

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Well, yes. That much is expected.

>Lord-President Rassilon reporting in for fuck shit up duty, what appears to be the situation?"
>"Well, there's some assholes with spaceships shooting at the Transduction Barrier. They're not really doing any damage though, we could probably just ignore them for the rest of eternity and we'd all be fine."
>"Nah, let's fuck around with these faggots. Let's destroy their entire universe, just for shits and giggles. No, let's turn their universe into cheese, yeah, cheese; cheese that's so bad, you get fucking cancer just from looking at it, unless you're behind a Transduction Barrier. Also, let's turn all of the universes anyway near theirs into cancer-cheese, too. In fact, let's make it so that their universe was always caner-cheese and make it impossible for anything other than cancer-cheese to even exist, even on a conceptually level."
>"How do you sleep at night, sir?"

"Shit we lost a bunch of our planets and secret technology so we aren't as scary as we were during the War! Better stop us from getting it back Doctor!"

there u go.

that said is right, just put the Guardians back up at 70s power levels where one of them makes Darksied sweat and you're good.

I was right about to ask why this wasn't posted yet. Good on you, user.

>she'll easily be remembered as the worst Doctor.
I like that you made this claim, while talking about modern doctors and you completely ignored 9

An incarnation of them already exist in Marvel. They are called the Time Keepers. Immortus, an alternate reality version of Kang the Immortal is a member.

>Time Lords are crazy smart
>Not as smart as these two Time Lords though

The Time-Keepers were created by the last surviving member of the TVA at the end of all time, they're not a group you can join.

But they did defeat and enslave Immortus, who was allowed to rule over 7,000 years of human history as long as he kept the timeline they way they liked.

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Not only is she definitely the worst Doctor already, why would he then mention Nine when Eleven exists?

Immortus' purview ended at the year 4000.

wasn't Death's Head supposedly legitimately be part of the new line of relaunches at Marvel at one point? Hell I'm pretty sure he showed up in, I Deadpool (?) I think.

>Retconing the end of the time war was one of the dumbest decisions nu who ever did
Oh come now, there's been far worse things. The omnipotent lesbians for instance, or the entirety of Clara's storyline.

Maybe the longest lasting damage was the Time War but there have been far dumber decisions.

Well, user. The obvious implication being made is that 9 sucks so much that they're forgotten.

Which is may be true, but since Eleven is far worse why not ask how he can say that when Eleven exists?

meshyfish.com/~roo/index.html
This has everything that was ever written on the time lords up till 2015 and has a lot of info on there feats and mind fucking tech aswell as the time war hax fuckery

the Time Lords predate both of those by 20 and 30 years respectively, more than an unoriginal idea it sounds like one original and two rip-offs

I still want to see the Nightmare Child, the Skaro Degradation, the horde of travesties, The Could've Been King and his army of meanwhiles and neverweres.

Except the Time Lords can rewrite reality and sanction guys like the New Gods, Spectre, all of magic, Lords of Order/Chaos and the Monitors out of existence.

They would put a stop to all the Perpetua nonsense in seconds and make the universe perfectly orderly in no time at all.

>They would put a stop to all the Perpetua nonsense in seconds
So what you're saying is, they're just competent writers?

They are in a position above the vishanti or even the abstracts. and they eradicated all of magic before the universe even had sentient life. So no, Strange does nothing because if the TLs were around then he would be an ordinary person with no useful skills at all

Because I'm the one who said it, user.

You still haven't explained why you didn't ask him to compare the worst Doctor to the second worst Doctor though, instead mentioning Nine.

Okay, so, real question.

The Gentry vs The Timelords.

Who has more meta bullshit on their side?

The Gentry is a metaphor for an audience that doesn't care anymore
If people who watch Doctor Who don't give a shit about the Time Lords anymore, the Gentry wins

>”I don’t, but it’s worth it!”

Well, we know from the novels and short stories that the Nightmare Child was Davros going full madman and trying to create the 'perfect' Dalek, and the Skaro Degradations are horrible aberrant Daleks from other timelines, but we still know very little about the Could've Been King.

The Gentry are probably around the levels of the Guardians of Time and their meta-narrative nature might boost them even higher, so the Time Lords would msot likely lose against them.

what did the nightmare child and skaro degradations do or capable of?

>or the entirety of Clara's storyline
Great character with shitty fucking writers.

An insane Dalek that thinks it's a person. Great idea. Making it Clara, fuck you. None of her made sense even if she was good.

She was a great idea and concept, yes. It wasn't even good past that point. Awful actress, awful character, awful writing.

Sorry, who are the Gentry?

Jenna Coleman is a perfectly fine actress. It's just that an actor is only as good as their direction. And Moffart doesn't know what the fuck good direction is.

She's mediocre. An idea like that deserves someone who's great. Coincidentally at the time I thought Peter Capaldi would have nailed it.

we have so little on the gentry at this point, im just gonna wait till we actually see them fight

I thought she did the role great, it's just the role was shit aside from some of the gags.

Because the Daleks are scattered throughout time and space and the Doctor meets them in a random order. Sometimes they have billions of Daleks ready to fight and sometimes it is just one Dalek that is busted up. The Daleks also zoom through time without regarding the usual rules of the universe to collect knowledge of their losses and perfect their offense.
So sometimes they are a throwaway enemy and other times they literally put all of reality in jeopardy.

They seem to have a boner for him too. They're the only thing he hates, and has ranted that they should be genocided in front of them. And they consider hatred beautiful.

Well a lot of that is meta stuff.
They HAVE to have the Daleks appear every season or they lose licensing rights to use them without paying a fee. And making them pure hate with no other emotions or motives means they are a perfect villain for their needs. It is supposed to be a "children's" show. So having a bad guy that you want to see destroyed is perfect.

Really? I hope you're not referring to Blackpool. I found her one-note and annoying in that series.
I haven't seen her in anything else.

>They HAVE to have the Daleks appear every season or they lose licensing rights to use them without paying a fee
Why not just have a "good" one in the TARDIS then?

The Nightmare Child broke free and started ravaging both sides of the war (its most notable accomplishment probably came from it eating Davros' flagship whole). The Degradations had various forms with differing abilities between each. Pic related is one. They were known for being highly unpredictable and unstable.

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They themselves actually exist in Marvel. There just won't be any more stories featuring them because Marvel UK was wound up in the 1990s to save on costs and Marvel lost the Doctor Who license at that time.

But the old continuity remains canon, because of the way Marvel's multiverse works.

>You take that back, motherfucker.
Not a chance in hell, I meant what I said. Those two actors along with John Nathan-Turner is what killed the classic series.

Say what you want about Moffat the retard, but at least he's not as bad as Chibnall and John-Nathan Turner. Actually who is worse, JNT or Chibnall?

Seventh's final seasons were good though, you edgy zoomer.

Superman one shots before they even think about using whatever god tech bullshit they have.

in either universe they would get fucking owned if they even think about doing evil

When they turn every single star in the universe into either red ones or they just make them into blackholes, nothing else will bother. And it's not like anything short of the cosmics will breach Gallifrey's Transduction Barrier to begin with.

New Gods, Eternals, Celestials, Captain Atom, Shazam, Darkseid, Blue Marvel, CA Superman and The Sentry could easily own the time goobers

Almost all of those barring *maybe* Darkseid and of course CA Superman aren't getting by the Transduction Barrier. They'll just be buzzing around it like a bunch of insignificant gnats, and would only be wiped off when Rassilon gets bored of listening to them.

yeah okay nerd. sorry but your time goobers are getting owned.

>calling anyone else a nerd
>when he's literally getting this upset over his capeshit characters
Adorable.

>the doctor at one point idly muses on the fact that his people invented black holes

youtu.be/6QmuI7WN_2o?t=103

His people also apparently went to war against a bunch of witches at the beginning of time and ensured the universe would be one of science rather than magic.

To be perfectly honest a lot of the time lord feats are talked about and mentioned offscreen, but then you see them on screen and they're just a bunch of people who by all accounts dont even seem to be particular advanced. The dr grew up in a fucking wooden barn out in the middle of a desert.

Rassalon was apparently going to initiate a final sanction, destroy the entire universe, and convert the time lords into beings of pure energy. He was at the time armed with a metal gauntlet that shot energy blasts that werent actually strong enough to matter, he got wasted by some dude shooting lightning at him.

You could easily write them bullshitting their way to victory through some sort of time lord science, but we've never seen any of them really do anything amazing on-screen.

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So it's true NuWho is dead right? All because of a vagina?

The show only gives us bits and pieces. If you want actual details, look at the novels and comics The indication given in the EU is that when the Time Lords took shape in the pre-universe, their very nature was anathema to it. Their original and purest essence was hostile to Magic as a whole, and they removed every single trace of it from the ur-universe before shaping it into the commonly understood multiverse. They even removed the old Magic from themselves, and cast it out, which formed the Carnival Queen as the greatest threat to all things.

The Time Lords were basically the Order to the Old Ones Chaos.

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Okay I was being colorful. But seriously, is it true the latest Doctor and the writers backing her officially killed it? I haven't watched it in years because the writing quality dipped around Matt's era so I am naturally not up to date and merely going by secondhand accounts

You shouldn't drink and post, you're embarrassing yourself. Go put away your question mark umbrella and go to bed, Sparky.

We live in a modern society where people feel the need to publicly bitch about everything. Regardless of what they would have done, a large portion of the fan base would have whined about it. I got into this thing around 4's tenure and there's good Doctors and slightly less good Doctors.

I thought she was fine but the writing was pretty bland, but given the 3 episodes Chinball wrote earlier..I knew that was a probability.

Okay don't take this the wrong way, but you sound like you would watch this show regardless of the quality. Because the first thing you mentioned was complaining about negativity

>"NOW YOU'RE ONN MY TIME YOU LITTTLE SKUNK! GIVE ME THE TARDIS!"

My point is that there's always been ups and down with this franchise. Someone doesn't like the [insert number here] Doctor, wait 3 years and it's literally another person there. I can be honest about the show without having to be hateful and sperg my opinion about it. I sat down the other night and watched a good chunk of a THREE HOUR youtube video with some fuckwad losing his mind over it.

'sup ladderbro. I see you earned your Mouse House patch for typing with Kevin Feige balls in your mouth.

Time Lords are one of the most OP races in all of fiction, though you wouldn't notice because most of the media they're known for has them running around in silly hats.

But that's just Doctor Who, innit? Where you can run away from a world-killer if you have good cardio but can also kill the planet if you know how to play with an MRI machine.

Even the Doctor's shitty spaceship can blow up the universe if they park it wrong.

I really hated how Time Lord soldiers were basically light infantry. Guns and flak jackets and all. If anything, they should have been more like wizards given their mastery of technology.

Not necessarily a vagina. I mean, it could be the vagina, but it could also be absolutely abhorrent showrunning by a man who hasn't the faintest clue about how/why a show that's been running for 50+ years works. In fact it's more likely the latter.

I thought they were just Gallifreyans, they hadn't undergone Time Lord training.

Yeah, those were just 'ordinary' Gallifreyans with no Time Lord training to their name. 'Ordinary' in this case of course meaning they need to use guns to fire whole timelines at people instead of simply willing it into being a thing.

Pretty sure they were mass loomed "clone army" type Gallifreyans

Is /who/ still on Mcgannchan?

>Even the Doctor's shitty spaceship can blow up the universe if they park it wrong.
It's brought up several times that if the TARDIS landed on Earth with its full weight, it would crack the planet.

Also, in the comics an old malfunctioning TARDIS model very nearly obliterated the entire universe.

Maybe?

>gobbles tentacle goop just to keep his magical powers
>routinely btfo by dark skinned muggle sidekick and dark skinned alien magitech sidekick
>cucked by Benjamin Franklin
>Didn't do jack shit against the PENIS 5, and fucking Wanda got to save the day despite having less experience with magic
>once brought SanFran back from the grave only to not foresee SanFran being SanFran that also let part of Mephisto's domain gain a foothold on earth
>bamboozled by Loki's illusion chincanery
>disappointed Agamotto so much that one time he invaded earth to vent his rage

Strange's best strategy is to hope the Time Lords are laughing too hard at him to distract them from removing all magic from the multiverse. You know, the much, much, much bigger version of the thing the Empirikul did that left him high and dry

Honestly Darkseid and the Time Lords would be a mutual out of context problem. On the one hand, the Time Lords can probably find themselves some radion and the metawank aside Final Crisis shows a simple time bubble is enough to bootstrap paradox a bullet into a dying 'seid.

ON THE OTHER HAND once Darkseid gets serious, the true form of Darkseid in weakened aspect colliding into the multiverse is pretty much what Rassilon was trying to achieve for the Time Lords to escape the Time War.

>New Gods
Debatable. The Eternals are explicitly above the Time Lords in scope of existence by virtue of existing in a kind of higher idea-plane. Much as the god sphere multiverse map shit by Morrison baffles me trying to reconcile that with previous showings, it does imply while Time Lords can probably hold the advantage against avatars i.e. the only New Gods we are ever going to see while anyone not named Morrison writes them, the true ones may just be able to stand above their shenanigans.

>Spectre
True. Lesser forces have bitched him.

>all of magic
I don't know enough about Doctor Who magic to say yes or no about this, but DC magic does have reactive defenses. Remember the Carnival Queen? The Time Lords stowed away all magic, but it found a way back in a way all the same.

>Lords of Order/Chaos
Yeah I'm actually going to go with FALSE on this considering how the recent JLD issue went on about magic only having limits because the magicians decided there should be some, the Lords of Order nearly destroying the godsphere/magic themselves and one lord of chaos giving Diana's fail squad a little buff letting them wipe the floor with Nabu's cohorts.

>Monitors
Solid maybe desu. Even with the higher order meta existence shit they're total jobbers.

Based on the audience reactions to the latest season? I'm going to say the Gentry are winning at the moment.

>Ahahah look we put all those words together even though they're not usually used together ! We're writers !

What is the Transduction Barrier anyway? I have no idea how to quantify it because whatever people say it makes exactly as much sense as fucking Soulfire Darkseid, but recently Superman punched out a 6th dimensional world forging super celestial who created Barbatos and was about to replace the current multiverse with one of his own design in one blow.

Didn't kill it, but it shattered the multiverse he was working on and laid him flat out on the ground with the fight knocked out of him.

From what I've seen in a fanfic, DO NOT let the Master into Asgard.
Well, maybe the Decepticons were the real threat, but even then, they were sent by Loki, who was, in turn, sent by the Master.

An old TARDIS blew up the universe in the series too.

Remember that episode that said that if sapient beings don't sleep horrible dream-demons made out of dust take them over?

>The Timelords blew up Krypton because they feared Kryptonians surpassing them

The showrunning isn't any worse than it has been at any point of nuWho, The Doctor is though.

You have to temper your expectations in live-action. Remember that this is a universe where every OP action has an equally OP counter-action.

You might have a super-nova cannon but what if your opponent is wearing his anti-super-nova cock ring?

Oh please, Asgard's such a joke in the current year that the Master would probably snub stealing their powers for the Olympians. At least they still have the street cred of having fucked up a universe level darkness goddess in No Road Home, and also coming back from being killed by her at the very end.

>The Timelords ironically and inevitably doomed themselves by unintentionally creating multiverse-shattering Superman and unleashing the evil that is Superboy, their extinction in DC is preordained because the punch is outside time

Yeah, that sounds like a Doctor Who EU story alright

He still pops up here and there.