What would the industry look like if comics took a manga approach where the story has a creative team and ends...

Comic fans are having the monkey paw for decades now.

everyone knows Stan never wrote jack shit in his life besides editorials

I meant that in this case he would have written a definitive ending to it until Claremont started it anew.

I like the idea. Definitive endings help with storytelling. When you know how the story ends, you can really just focus on getting there in a satisfactory way as opposed to trying to keep it going with retcons and other bullshit.

That's why I read fanfiction nowadays

What if you put down the Marvel/DC and finally read creator-owned comics?

Those already have the """manga approach""" where the comic ends after the creative team is done with the story.

No shit, I'm posing a hypothetical on what the industry would be if DC and Marvel did the same.

I like that the stories never end and new writers take on the same character. A lot of the best stories come from that

You wouldn't be calling it the "manga approach" if you weren't totally ignorant about the existence of non-Marvel/non-DC comics.

I'm calling it the manga approach because they do it for their biggest properties and not some indie stuff.

I'd be okay with writers following the manga system but having the likes of Alex Ross stuck on a single series would be such a waste.

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Well Grant Morrison would be pretty different since his favorite superheroes has archetypal mythology theme only works if the stories never end.

isn't batman the only hero that "ages" because of how many robins he has gone through?

There wouldn't be much of a scene.

Oh no nono fuck no. Dragonball and Naruto are the finest examples of why you do not allow the same creator to keep an IP hostage for 2 decades. Even when they do put someone else in charge, the assholes is still behind them dictating everything.

When you describe it like that, you make it sound exactly like the current system in cape comics. Creators have control over the character until their run ends. When they write their final issues, they tend to wrap up their storyarcs. Then the new creator takes over and does whatever he wants to do with the character.

I'm kinda struggling to understand what OP is talking about. Like, are there more manga than Dragon Ball or Naruto that were given to new creators for the purpose of sequels? It looks more like a rare exception rather than the general rule. Also, I've understood that even Naruto/DB sequels were supervised and approved of by their original creators.

The main difference between manga and American comicbook industry seems to be in creator control. With cases like Superman or Watchmen, the company owns the characters and hires whoever they want to write new stories, and the original creators don't have any kind of control over what happens to their characters. I haven't heard of similar controversies with manga.

I'm not sure if there would even be Marvel or DC universes in that scenario. If all the comic series were owned by their creators rather than the company, having a shared universe and crossover events would be much more complex to arrange.
Losing shared universes might be either good or bad, since they're both a blessing and a curse. They provide a massive world with opportunities for interesting character interaction, but they also create continuity clusterfucks that make cape comics so convoluted to follow.

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This is really really hard to call, because the manga approach you describe would mean a very different thing back in the day. Comics back then started off as anthologies and wasn't really full of long-running storytelling. A lot of characters would have early ends due to creative team changes and those that got dropped may not become popular again due to being out of the public eye. Anthologies might have thrived over solo and long-running series, and actually they kind of already did for a time.

That being said, there is a precedent for the "manga approach" that you mention. Golden Age Green Lantern and Flash, for instance, both got relaunched, giving us Silver Age Green Lantern and Flash, two very different characters from their original counterparts. So, it's possible that we might end up losing a lot of our iconic characters but would still end up in a system not too different from before. Then again, with the Claremont example, it doesn't sounds like you're really changing much to begin with.

>I'm kinda struggling to understand what OP is talking about.
Same. Claremont and Bendis example is throwing me off, same with Dragon Ball and Naruto. If anything, Pluto would be a better example, but even that isn't exact either. Godzilla might actually be a closer situation.

Apart from Superman and a small handful of other characters, stuff like Spider-verse and the Lantern/Flash generations, X-men (on paper, anyway...) and even Batman Beyond have proven you could pass the super hero torch on and create hero legacies. And Even Superman isn't entirely exempt; you have Kara, Connor and Jonathan as potential sequel/legacy heroes.

Hell, technically the Phantom started this idea even if Kitt Walker (and the 2040 Phantom of the same name) are the most prominent.

However, it does feel like shared universes would be next to impossible, apart from very special, limited crossover events.The only possible route to have shared universe would remain with movie/television/video game adaptations, and/or something like how Super Sentai and Kamen Rider have summer crossover movies that allow older shows/heroes team up and you don't have to worry/think about how these are in the canon, you just have fun with it.

If you want to get technical, even Superman would count since Superman technically with from Earth-Two Superman to Earth-One and in a way, that started the whole basis of the shared universe thing, or at least, a shared multiverse. So, I wouldn't count out shared universes even with legacy characters, especially when time travel is always an option, nevermind dimensional travel and outright alternate realities.

Speaking of, though returning back to life was always a thing in comics, I remember a time when people thought guys like Barry wouldn't return like he did. Him returning and what was done with Wally really threw out one of the best examples of a successful legacy character.

not sequel but lot of serie get some spin-off made by other mangaka like the isekai DB with Yamcha

Well, you could have situations like what Clairemont intended for Scott Summers before X-men was rebooted after his run. Guy wanted Cyke to retire with someone--WHO WASN'T JEAN-- and have his happy ending. He could come back for special events to help out, but he was effectively retired from the main story.

Older versions of Green Lanterns or Supers could show up, sure, but even now Marvel keeps trying to restart X-men with the same damn five members (and Wolverine) rather than just try to come up with new fresh faces at the institute.

Yeah, like or not, we're at a point where characters keep coming back and being reused. Everyone around long enough can see through it. For better or for worse, this is where we are right now.

Then again, who knows what's gonna happen after House of X/Power of X, but I know jack about what's going on there anyways.

You have a peculiar definition of "everyone".