Western Magical Girls shows

does symphogear counts as magical girl show? if does then the western ones cant compare

>does symphogear counts as magical girl show?
yeah
I mean, if Cutie Honey does

Kind of hard to say, if only because magical girls themselves have changed over the years and, looking back, there's some overlap with what western media does but just done differently and not as common. It's really more than anything.

Is this that WITCHfag I keep hearing about?

>doremi
>precure
>cardcaptor sakura
>rayearth
>sailor moon
>lyrical nanoha
>madoka
>princess tutu
no western anime copy even holds a candle to some of the best mahou shoujo.

worst one are the western magical girl comics where they try to make grown up magical girls that are edgy and shit. They try to pull the madoka clone but with western edgyness instead
probably

>>lyrical nanoha
Speaking of, I would just like to say real quick that Nanoha herself is best girl. Ideally, the main character should always be best girl, but still. The only one who comes close is her wife.

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How weird.

Was this issue any good? Do these magic girls ever show up again?

nice, Symphogear made me like singing while fighting. I dont know what the western shows are missing, they seem to everything they need in place

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It's not that weird. It was the 90s, and Sailor Moon was the hottest shit ever at the time. And given that SM took some inspiration from Wondy(most notably the tiara and the lunar imagery) it was a natural fit.

>Was this issue any good?
Dunno. Never read it.

>Do these magic girls ever show up again?
Nope. Just like 90% of Diana's supporting cast, they were forgotten and abandoned.

If Wonder Woman ever gets a cartoon they should make her magical girl. She fits the magical girls genre really well.

>She fits the magical girls genre really well.

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>worst one are the western magical girl comics where they try to make grown up magical girls that are edgy and shit. They try to pull the madoka clone but with western edgyness instead
Which comics did this?

I'm not even sure they need to make her one. She already shares some traits, some of which predate current magical girl tropes. Wouldn't mind them trying to make an attempt at something more Japanese-styled with a version of Wonder Girl, though.

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Man I miss Lolirock . I wish it lasted longer.

Star was pretty popular, and Ladybug is going strong.

Ladybug seems like a good show. I just wish the pacing for it would be a lot better.

Maybe make one that isn't shit, and then we'll talk

Most, if not all westerrn MG series just ape Sailor Moon's sense of aesthetics and general structure and don't even do that right half the time

Thinking Sailor Moon was just big hair and monster fights.

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Doesn’t Sailor Moon do a monster-of-the-week formula? Unless you’re talking about the main plot which has a bit more romance

>Ladybug
>good show

The main plot, which almost every copycat either ignores or does poorly.
Also the monster of the week thing wasn't just for show and had an actual purpose in the narrative , namely to help establish the dynamics of the team and bits of character development for the big plot stuff when they're in the heat of battle.
Sailor Moon's anime had its share of problems to be sure, but what it did do wasn't bad.

Has anyone seen the 8th season of Winx Club ? Is it good ?

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But what about magical boys?

There's Cat Noir he's the only western magical boy I could think of.

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Those are called "superheroes".

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This.

I hope we get more cute black magical girls in future shows.

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>lolirock
How the hell did they get away with having “loli” in the title of a kids’ show?

>Nefcy tries to make a whimsical mahou shoujo anime

>Unintenionally recreates the ending of Devilman with the world thrown into chaos with magic gone.

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I think it's a play on the word lollipop.

>Magical girls by their design are supposed to put other ahead of themselves and show genuine love towards everyone even if there is sacrifice

>Star is a selfish cunt who willfully fucked over reality to get her pussy wet

The European properties (Winx, Ladybug etc) seem to have been the most successful so far. Honestly I think its just the American side of things that has failed at their attempt.

You know what I haven't seen done yet but would like to see is magical girls in a different time and setting. Instead of modern day Japan/France/America it might be cool to see 1920s America or 1950s Russia or magical girls in the middle ages or something.

Shokushu gōkan

Magical girl only purpose is to have their naive world view shattered and their mind broken after they realize what the monsters they are supposed to fight are about to do with them once they are defeated

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AND SO I CRY SOMETIMES WHEN IM LYING IN BED JUST TO GIVE IT ALL UP WHATS IN MY HEAD

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>What elements from anime Magical Girls are missing from western magical girls shows ?
Low-key fanservice.

I don't necessarily know a whole lot about magical girl shows, but from what I've seen, the biggest difference is that Japan allows at least some of them to have dark and more mature storylines whereas in the west they've been relegated to shit for tween girls.

That said, I do unironically love Lolirock and Winx Club. Lolirock has some legitimately great designs and I was dying of laughter the entire time I was watching seasons 1 and 2 with my friend, less because it was actually funny and more because it would randomly drop plot lines and then remember them later, leading to unexpected developments that really came out of nowhere. Winx Club I love because on one hand, there are elements of a very enjoyable kid's fantasy series, not unlike Harry Potter, but at the same time, there's so many cheesy moments (like in season 1 where we get a 3D model of Sky with a 2D face) that I can't help but laugh my ass off at... Also, Talia is best girl 2019.

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I don't know. Winx Club, LoliRock and Miraculous can get pretty sexy.

They do. Its called PONY.

Try for yourself, but the artstyle for this season is so sugarcubed here.

You're a liar. I dare you to post proof to prove me wrong.

This. People trying to claim that both are shit or that there's barely any difference are delusional.

youtube.com/watch?v=l11uaEjA-iI

Forget magical girl shows, what are some magical girl comics?

Glitter Force is the best magic girl show. Prove me wrong. You can't!

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Literally 4Kids-ified Smile Precure.

>Japanese magical girl shows to western magical girl shows:

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Or EqG.

>Implying Steven Universe is a good show because lesbians

myanimelist.net/anime/27727/Binan_Koukou_Chikyuu_Boueibu_LOVE
myanimelist.net/anime/36902/Mahou_Shoujo_Ore

>Gems are genderless

Steven Universe is a cop out, since the gems aren't really lesbians since they don't have any genders and male(or at masculine) gems don't exist.

I make one but it's predicated on the fact that I've watched/read very little in the way of action magical girl stuff and I'm mostly riffing on what I've absorbed via osmosis.

If it's good I may consider reading it.

What do you want out of a magical girl story? Or any story?

Wouldn't Western magical girls have a more Pagan aesthetics?

I don't want paganism in my Christian cartoons.

webm variatn

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>implying Steven Universe is good

That's a fucking cop out excuse

This, He-Man is unironically the best magical boy.

She could easily have a tv show with her basically being an adult version of a magical girl show.

I remember it being on Fox Box/4Kids TV, and then Nick, but not CN.

Miraculous Ladybug is basically Black Rose Saga part of Revolutionary Girl Utena for kids. It has the same plot, same villain, same character personalities, relationships between them, even the same color schemes!

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>cop out cop out COP OUT GUYS ARE YOU LISTENING THEY'RE TRYING TO TRICK YOU
Get a grip faggot.

Ladybug is spiderman rule 63. the old, shitty spiderman with all his animal villains of the week that are somehow always related to Peter's life though his school, his friends, his jobs.

Hal is DC's magical girl
m.youtube.com/watch?v=f5TmvR5jVAM

>urrr actually-
Out.

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>watching LR with a friend
y-you can do that?

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Yeah right...

Iris is really pretty but the freckles look weird sometimes.

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I guess Loli exists in an internet vacuum, not many alarm bells going off with normies. That and implying France gives a fuck ever

It's not even the best Precure show.

That Canadian dub of the original series is better than Saban Cure.

DC could try with Princess Amethyst.

Power-up, Zodiac Starforce

winx was better

.....honestly am tore. on one hand i like aspects that the west does but i also like some aspects the east does. it's a mixed bag for me.

....and another note i admit to having an idea for a western magical girl...even if the main duo is fraternal twins female and male.

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No.

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Someone hasn't seen Pretty Cure fight scenes. Highly recommend you giving that series a try if you have to give a chance to one.
It's just hard for most girls series to get big in general. They western ones also tend to not really understand all the tropes that make them "magical girl" so they can come off half-assed.

The Zoe Quinn comic would count, too. Goddess Mode.

There's nothing Christian about magical girls.

>MG show about Jeanne of Arc stealing artifacts so she can put God's power back together

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You can and I have. We marathoned both seasons. It was amazing. That cliffhanger ending surprised the fuck outta me. I know that it's more than likely canceled at this point, but part of me hopes that the 3rd season is just taking a long time and we'll actually get it.

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I guess the closest I’ve come to watching with friends was showing my younger sibs some clips.
And yeah, any continuation is a lofty pipe dream. The director does have a few scenarios thought up so there is technically season 3 lore. But at this point I don’t know what’s the greater impossibility: season 3 or the Orioles being good again.

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If the girls actually looked like pic related there as opposed to the plastic dolls in the show, it might've gotten a third season.

French, Korean or Japanese? Because that show is pretty fuzzy in its style. Anyways, French weaboos are pretty common and the influences of anime are stronger. Also, their society is more similar to Asian ones than American society for making an example

>lolirock
How did they get away with it??

It definitely wasn't the best looking show ever made, but it was miles above WITCH and Winx Club, and not even all that bad as far as kid's animation goes.

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>it was miles above WITCH
Bait this shit shouldn't be allowed.

Looking like plastic dolls is what convinced the execs that it was cheap enough to make two season in the first place.

Most kids aren't perverts.

>>madoka
>some of the best mahou shoujo.

t. brainlet

The horse show isn't really magical girl at all. It's funny SOL in a noblebright fantasy setting. There's an adventurous episode here and there but they're sparse and not the focus.

The show is the better for it.

It's not bait, mate. It's personal opinion.

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There were some Western series in the 80s that could be considered magical girl analogues like Jem and the Holograms and She-Ra. They each had secret lives/alternate identities, powers, costumes or transformations, all-girl teams, etc. Most American and European magical girl shows from the 90s and 2000s seem to follow the formula of Japanese anime too closely, although superhero shows like the Powerpuff Girls and DC Super Hero Girls could be considered the modern equivalent of magical girl series. The Barbie film series and some Disney series like the Tinkerbell series could also count.

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>The western ones also tend to not really understand all the tropes that make them "magical girl" so they can come off half-assed.
I've seen this point made several times in discussions about this and no one ever really follows up on it. How would you define magical girls?

He's probably talking about the spin-off which has more of a magical girl aspect and the character are humans instead of horses.

Damn right

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Not even him but the shit was boring plus she never even wore the costume til the last episode. And don't give me that shit about "just watch the movie", because the disgusting taste the anime left me was enough to deter me from ever watching the movie

JUST GIVE ME MERMAID MELODY S3 YOU FUGKING BOZOS AT TOEI

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Again
t. brainlet

Don't bitch at me for your shit taste, and don't bother justifying yourself.

>thinking madoka magica is anything more than an edgy sailor moon knock-off
Okay, it also stole one or two ideas from Princess Tutu.

>thinking Madoka has ANYTHING in common with Sailor Moon
>thinking EITHER can be compared to Princess Tutu of all things.
All of them being magical girl series doesn't mean they're the all the same dipshit.
That's like saying Cardcaptor Sakura is pretty much the same as PreCure or Ojamajo Doremi

You're a retard.