Bojack

How do you create something as amazing as Bojack and then completely drop the ball with Tuca? Also, what are Yea Forums's hopes for Season 6?

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You could see the sorta shit Tuca is under the surface of Bojack, it clearly just had some people on it keeping a leash on the people, but those people weren't around for Tuca.

Tuca is just Bojack but about two women rather than a man

Dub trips knows what's up. People who create something successful don't get the same level of oversight on the next project because, hey, they clearly know what they're doing. But it doesn't really work that way.

T&B is Bojack, but without any of the stuff that made Bojack good.

Bojack is about people and characters exploration.
Tuca and Bertie is about sex and Drugs.

Or Bojack is T&B just without the stuff that made T&B shit. It's hard to tell.

Birds aren't funny.

I just hope they are going to stop Bojack before it starts getting bad. I mean they already did with him whatever they could (alcoholism, drug addiction, love and parents problems). If they start focusing on even more of his problems, it's gonna feel too forced.

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I like Tuca. It really triggers incels to see a show about women and that just puts a smile on my face

This has been my concern with it for a while. Feels like they're going to push it too far and it'll run aground. I thought 3 seasons was about right.

>It really triggers incels

No it doesn't.

TB's conflicts have no consequence. All the background traumas(molest,alchol,dead mom etc) do nothing.

Please do not feed the troll.

Tuca isn't by the core Bojack cast. It feels like some side-project made by some tumblr women who somehow latched onto the Bojack cast.

>"I mean they already did with him whatever they could (alcoholism, drug addiction, love and parents problems)"
Them running out of new topics for Bojack and just repeating the same themes over and over again does seem like a likely problem for them. But I am legitimately interested in seeing his trip into rehab at the start of next season.

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according to the artbook, after the S1's "omg I'm le sad horse xd" response, creaters wanted to see how far the audience can be related to Bojack in the season two.

It's not the same creator at all

Tuca & Bertie was created by Bojack's Production Designer, while Bojack's creator acts only as Executive Producer

Not sure about the writers, but it's probably a whole different team

They have plenty of side characters to focus on. Princess Carolyn is gonna adopt a kid and Mr. Peanutbutter is getting married again.

What's the Bojack line that just fucking hit you the hardest?

>BoJack: If I'm shitty, that's just because I'm shitty. You're allowed to be mad at me, but you need to know that whatever I do, it's not your fault.
>Hollyhock: I know. I mean, I know, but I don't always know, you know? Like, sometimes I have this tiny voice in the back of my head that goes, like, "Hey, everyone hates you! And they're not wrong to feel that way!"
>BoJack: I know what you mean.
>Hollyhock: That voice, the one that tells you you're worthless and stupid and ugly?
>BoJack: Yeah?
>Hollyhock: It goes away, right? It's just, like, a dumb teenage-girl thing, but then it goes away?
>BoJack: ...Yeah.

His entire paranoid self-argument about being a piece of shit not deserving to be happy.
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BoJack really is running out of ideas, The first really bad season was (IMO) 4 and the best part of 4 was the beginning where BoJack found himself at the Lake House. Hollyhock was uninteresting, and trying to redeem Beatrice was a mistake, dying doesn't make you a saint. That's like saying a jackass in your life who beat your up and hated you got hit by a car and is borderline retarded, it doesn't make a character any better, just a slobbering retard with no chance of ever being anything more. Season 5 was good, but really stuck in one setting and was dull in that sense. When your show requires you to metaphorically slap the audience because of things unrelated to the show itself, it's time to end things.

That mixed with the BoJack crew unionizing, I don't think Season 6 will be the last, but I really hope it is. They'll just keep beating the dead horse.

i already forgot about tuca and bertie desu

>something as amazing as Bojack

Bait

Oh come on.

I dunno, I liked Tuca and Bertie.

That part where what's her name talks about how you have to let people go when they're drowning, because they'll thrash and flail and bring you down with them. I've had to do that a number of times with people I used to consider good friends, but it never gets easier. The point was driven home by the fact that BoJack was too drunk/high to even remember what she was saying. Though the whole ending to season 3 was a cop out with the "black outs". No writing skill involved to do that. When episode 11 starts, and it starts with Sarah Lynn, you know she's gonna die by the end, what even was the point. Episode 11 feels more like an expected genre exercise at this point, and not a sudden change to the status quo.

It gets watchable towards the end, but it takes a LOOOONG time and the payoff isn't great.

What has left to Todd? Last season was self-admitting that they can't handle the asexual so well.

Bojack is Raphael Bob-Waksberg's show. Lisa Hanawalt designed the characters for it but isn't involved in the writing or anything. She even talked in the artbook about not wanting to spend much of her time on it. That's why she still put out two comic books during the show. Tuca & Bertie is alot more her show, she's in charge of the scripts. She's not a writer and it shows. The stories have no arcs or resolutions, they just suddenly finish because we made it to the end of the episode. Like the househunting one or the cult one. The sex bugs one peters out before the episode is even over and then has a bunch of filler with the courtroom scenes.