What went wrong?

Nothing. Adorable storylines and I love the shape of her mouth.

Daron Nefcy ran out of ideas by the end of season 2. She did not expect the show to be renewed, and planned to convince the suits to let her wrap the show up with a TV movie called 'Battle for Mewni'. This would have been much like what aired as 'Battle for Mewni', except with some added scenes for closure. Unfortunately, the network decided to offer to renew the show for another season. Nefcy was reluctant to continue the show, however one of her more ambitious underlings, a woman named Sabrina Cotugno, was determined to take the reins of the show and use it to promote the issues she felt passionate about, including her trust issues with men, her insecurities about her mixed race background and hostility towards white privilege, her lesbian interest in butch brown women (which can be traced back to a fling she had in Paris, where she was trying to 'find herself' after being infected with an STD by her cheating boyfriend), and so on. Cotugno had discovered a video of Daron Nefcy masturbating while she watched her husband, Bobby Miller, having sex with another woman. She let Nefcy know she had the file in a not-too-subtle way. Although Nefcy's own career was going well, her husband was just beginning to catch big breaks in Hollywood as a director, and also any sort of sexual scandal would jeopardize her career as she worked on a children's show owned by the PR-sensitive Disney corporation. Nefcy agreed to allow Cotugno to continue the show as the 'shadow showrunner'. The credit would not reflect her having an inordinate amount of control over the show, which Cotugno didn't care much about since her main motivation was using the show to promote her own pet social causes and work out her personal issues. Cotugno also encouraged her friends on the staff, who were not necessarily the most talented people there, to step up with their own input. The show suffered greatly. Everything that had once been fun was replaced by Cotugno using the show as therapy.

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>08325116 (OP)
>Daron Nefcy ran out of ideas by the end of season 2. She did not expect the show to be renewed, and planned to convince the suits to let her wrap the show up with a TV movie called 'Battle for Mewni'. This would have been much like what aired as 'Battle for Mewni', except with some added scenes for closure. Unfortunately, the network decided to offer to renew the show for another season. Nefcy was reluctant to continue the show, however one of her more ambitious underlings, a woman named Sabrina Cotugno, was determined to take the reins of the show and use it to promote the issues she felt passionate about, including her trust issues with men, her insecurities about her mixed race background and hostility towards white privilege, her lesbian interest in butch brown women (which can be traced back to a fling she had in Paris, where she was trying to 'find herself' after being infected with an STD by her cheating boyfriend), and so on.
You can stop reading here guys.

>The credit would not reflect her having an inordinate amount of control over the show, which Cotugno didn't care much about since her main motivation was using the show to promote her own pet social causes and work out her personal issues. Cotugno also encouraged her friends on the staff, who were not necessarily the most talented people there, to step up with their own input. The show suffered greatly. Everything that had once been fun was replaced by Cotugno using the show as therapy.
Also this.

This.

See Add in Nefcy operates on the same thought patterns as a teenage girl and somehow thought "a self insert story of my autistic magical girl fantasies with my bf is a GREAT idea!" wouldn't get awkward when said shippimg was involved, and you get the clusterfuck gumbo we have today.

I really hope they get a divorce just to make this self insert fantasy super fucking awkward for them, since the series is over an all. A constant reminder.

How does one just "discover" a video like that? Where can I "discover" such a thing?

>I really hope they get a divorce just to make this self insert fantasy super fucking awkward for them, since the series is over an all. A constant reminder.
Janna always wins the long game bros

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>dragging tomstar for so fucking long
>pointless retcons
>stupid subplot about racism and colonialism that never was exploited and instead used for virtue signaling

These and the artstyle made me avoid this cartoon like a prague, something not even SU managed to.

Being too grown up was Marco's problem from the onset. Marco's the stereotypical sad sack that needs the manic pixie dream girl to lighten him up.

They'll never divorce; their relationship is so strong because Daron allows and encourages Bobby to explore other outlets for his urges. The variety keeps the relationship exciting and prevents their sex life from becoming boring, and Daron really enjoys setting up these little encounters for him.

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I remember someone mentioned she found the file in a thumb drive on Nefcy's computer at work.

This is why Starco will never be cute and perfect no matter how much the Starfags push it.

>all the cuckshit about Nefcy IRL wasn't just shitposting

What the actual fuck.

So where does the Eclipsa shit play into Cotugno's chessmaster power trip?

Theres a lot of these random shit shows that start as comedies and end up being about the lore. They share the same pattern of throwing random shit for shock value. Then as they run out of shit to throw, they start implying that that random shit was important and foreshadowing.

Thats the first problem, Second problem is the worst kind of female written shipping. I've read my fair share of shöjo Strawberry Prince Kiss! Kiss! mangas, and the worst kind of female writers always manage to turn the meek socially unadapted perma-virgins into huge sluts. These characters go from:
>Theres more important things than romance in my life
>I'm taking a chance with loving you
>*breakup* I don't know how to live without you
>*post-breakup* I must find someone else to love
>My LIFE is getting in the way of my desire to suck all these cocks

Lack of focus at writting, trying to get attention by shipbait instead of writting an actual good plot.

>implying that isn't the perfect relationship

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>cuckolding
Yep, this show was cursed from the start.

>I've read my fair share of shöjo Strawberry Prince Kiss! Kiss! mangas, and the worst kind of female writers always manage to turn the meek socially unadapted perma-virgins into huge sluts.
I bet you five bucks Nefcy was a fujoshipper back in the late 90s.

I want to fuck Star.

*cuckqueaning
ftfy
Completely different.

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God, Star being the show's Punished Cuck was so kino.

shoulda been a harem anime

Cuckqueans make for better protagonists than shitty haram protags.

Your source for all of this?

Shipping and cancerous lore taking over comedic SOL. Killing magic in the end was in a way funny because thats exactly what nefcy did with the show, stars now a serious bitch and no longer the cheerful bubbly teen she was at the beginning.

continuing to tease Eclipsa being evil after firmly establishing she was good all along, and not making her face real repercussions for using the spell with no name
introducing the destruction of magic idea in the second to last episode
not even bothering to explain why Glossaryck was working to end magic which includes himself

Star canonically wanted Marco to fuck a black woman. That's pretty based.

What do you think that Janna would have in the cheek marks and wand department if she had ever used magic?

Do you mean with Brunzetta? Didn't Star have a bit of a crush on her too?

The star from this flag.

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>Do you mean with Brunzetta?
Yee
>Didn't Star have a bit of a crush on her too?
Star would have no problem with Marco and Brunzetta running a train on her.

It will never not be funny to me that the early weird comics had Marco being cucked, only for later in the show revealed the EXACT OPPOSITE

Nothing

That shit was hilarious. Yea Forums was never the same after the first two seasons. It was a different time.

I imagine that her wand would be forged from a Banagic Wand using the tiny evil millhorse she kept (once she tamed it, since of course she could tame it). Now the wand would transform to match the user's personality, so for Janna, I think the shape would be a lot like stars but black with pink accents (pink is Janna's true favorite color she cant hide it). The crystal would be purple, to reflect the dark magic within, and its shape I dunon either an eyeball or evil looking crescent shaped smile.
For cheek marks, I would say like Marco she only shows cheek marks when they glow. Cant really think of any cool shapes right now, gonna need to pull up some random wingdings for inspiration.

Forgot to do the thing

Word

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For the cheek mark? What's your reasoning? Would it be that color?

I meant the sun, confused it with a sun. Just thought it would be nice since Janna is a Filipina, though I really don't see a hint of it on her. provided a much better answer. If this was a discussion about wands I would've said something involving a kris sword.

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It was an insider leak that circulated a few months back.

What a nasty cuck.

Nothing,it has one of the best endings of this decade with the rest of this board, being butthurt about the death of the dumb ships they created. Korra too has a great ending. Fuck co/ and the rest of the edgy shitposters niggers that ruin treads about this two great shows.

It tried to do far too many things at once. Relationships, racism, magical lore between Earth and another planet, lore about magic in general, growing up and finding yourself, handling breakups, leading an entire kingdom, time travel... The list goes on and on. Since they had to handle all those things at once, they had to wrap it up as quickly as possible and the ending just added more questions than answers. You could start an entire show EASILY with the ending they had.

Remember how she reacted when Brunzetta didn't remember her?

Very convenient. Almost too so. Like somehow, it's not real...

This kinda explains that dog episode (S2;E3b). I remember wondering why a kids show would strike parallels to adult dominance and pet play. Shit got weird.

Degenerates die whether male or female

Should have been ended at Battle for Mewni. S3 & 4 are the total mistakes.

shipping
i barely even watched it
but the shipping was fucking everywhere

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Either way Janna wins in the end.

She killed herself in the end

1. Too much episodic shit, not enough serialized story about Toffee.
2. The story continued after the logical conclusion (Toffee's death). That rarely bodes well for a TV series. Look at Korra.
3. Too much romance garbage. And guess what? It all lead to the most obvious outcome. So what was the point of stretching it like that? Just make Star x Marco official ASAP and focus on the actually interesting plotlines.
4. Making lore a fucking joke just for the LULZ. Which includes switching between treating the Wand™ like a serious & dangerous artifact (Into the Wand) and treating it like a joke (treadmill unicorn & wand chargers). Should've just treated it like The Mask from the Jim Carrey movie. A proper, dangerous object that could be used for stupid shit if the user is an irresponsible fuck nugget.
5. "Monsters are people too." plotline. Just barf. They ENJOYED being evil in Season 1. That was their nature.

>She killed herself in the end
>in the care of a medical team on an ambulance probably has a defibrillator
She lives to carry on what Jackie failed to do: cuck Star.

Why that?

>it has one of the best endings of this decade
Hahahaha good one

Kris’ in SE Asia are held as relics in old customs and folklore. They give the wielders bravery and protect them from evil, along with bunch of other protections.

What makes you think that would be a good fit for Janna?

So we can make use out of her South East Asian heritage that the writers sloppily applied to her and make amends for the Nut Shack.

Nut Shack?

Sloppily applied?

Shitty Filipino-American cartoon

There’s nothing about the character to even hint that she has Filipino heritage in her. Marco’s a half white chicano but we can see some of his Mexican heritage in him. We don’t get that with Janna. I’m sure that it was just a way for Cotungo to self insert into the show without much care for how it would affect the character.

I swear Star gave me a cuckquean fetish.

What would work for Jackie, then?

People have been known to do dumb things like leave their sex videos in an insecure place, user. Nefcy is a naive and trusting soul, unfortunately.

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Coral reef wand with a starfish to fit on top.

...

A quick reminder, Polyamory is fraud in the form of a relationship.

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"What went wrong?"

HOW MUCH TIME YOU GOT?

What would her cheek marks be then?

They decided that Eclipsa and the monsters could do no wrong.

Don't get me wrong, it was a great message, but the way they presented it robbed ALL tension and momentum from the story.

Eclipsa was set up to be the queen of darkness who flipped the rules of magic on her head and made even the members of her own family clench their butt-holes at the mention of her name. What we got was a cutesy goth girl desperately being shoved into leadership position that she didn't want and wasn't qualified to have.

The monsters and the mewmans were set up to have a laughable misunderstood rivalry. But soon it turned into "the monsters did nothing wrong" at every turn. Which, I understand the parallel they were making, but for the set up they had, the tone they had, and the background they worked with, it wasn't able to bloom into anything more than deadweight on the story.

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Life preserver rings to go with her water theme.

selfinsert
>"I'm not evil, it was just an archaic society that didn't like how i acted".

No one's talking about 'polyamory'; their relationship is only open for Bobby, and that's the way they both like it.

>he hasn't heard the tale of Kurt eichenwald

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Still fraudulent

What about Mariposa then? This is the best concept I have found for her wand.

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>insider = some fuck who desperately wants (You)s

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What are you talking about?

What did the Czechs ever do to you?

Nice

Cringey attempt at aping /gfg/'s hackposting. The truth is, Horseface Nefcy just sucks at writing. She is an "ideas" person. She likes to create new characters, settings, and things, but any attempts to bring any depth to them, she falters. At least The Manlet stumbled into making Pacifica likable (even if he did so by ripping off Trixie Tang's one-shot episode where she wasn't a spoiled little shit). Horseface was in control and Sabrina was literally just a low-level director, if she had blackmail you'd think she'd do more to further her career than fuck up some characters on a show with a set expiration date anyway.

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This user gets it, Jenna should've matured in later seasons and realized that if she wanted Marco's positive attention she needed to grow up.
She would have realized that during the sleep over episode.
>A mature Janna paired to Marco would've been much better ending.

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And Jackie went gay..
>Your princess has flaws.

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Bisexual

If she was Bi, she would've invited Marco for a threesome.

gay

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It needed to end at Season 3.

And now it over isn't it?

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I never understood that scene, was she just being a dick for no reason.

Meh, Maroc only made a snide remark after all the trouble she went through that episode.

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she was mad because marco underestimated her

What would her cheek marks have been?

Cute!

Got more from this guy?

No evil marco

Monster Rights. What a weird plot line.

>a video of Daron Nefcy masturbating
You had me up until this point. I'm more mad that it doesn't exist.

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just look up the name "morningmark" on tumblr