How's Your Webcomic? #573

I can't imagine that has ever happened

aw what a shame, I bet that tree was goddamn majestic.

It was kind of a thing many years ago on DA. From what I remember someone with a bug up their ass decided fanart was the fanartist making fun of or degrading their characters if the art was worse, and unprovoked critique and mockery if it was better. It wound up spreading a bit more than it should have.
Thankfully it only lasted a short while due to a lot of other artists telling those shitheads to fuckoff
It still crops up every so often, but like the other user said it comes from shitty people

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ohhh yeah.

Here`s a little spoiler (I don`t have any readers, so I don`t think it`s a problem to talk about it here):
The little spiral guy is the spirit of the tree, that's why he says he used to hang out with Falk, even though Falk doesn`t know who he is. Spiral dude just doesn`t entirely realize he`s dead, though.

question, how would you solve a story where it begins with the main characters parents and 1 older sibling killed by the main villain and another sibling effectively crippled and in a wheel chair

What needs to be "solved?"

MC and villain having a good fuck in the end

youd have to be retarded or autistic to get mad about that

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context?

this is obviously fake right

Judging by what I have seen on the net there are actually a lot of people (not sure if it's a minority or majority of indie artists though) who feel "uncomfortable" with fanart so you have to ask them first and show it to them before posting and whatever.
As an artist myself I think this is retarded as fuck but I can't relate to sensitive people like that in the first place. Recently I drew a fanart that inspired two people to turn it into a short fic (two different fics I mean) and I was happy as fuck about it, I also drew fanart for other stories of one of those two authors and they were also happy. But as said, I see people warning about fanart "without consent" all the time.
Hell I would even be happy if someone made porn with my OCs. You know you made it when people make porn of your creation.

These posts have encouraged me to post the terrible fanart I have drawn so far for webcomics I like from here.

This one was for Riddlemoore Academy. Love that series.

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What the buck fuckley

Stella from Faust Fall, which has gone into the damned hiatus series list. Did not add her burn marks. So... a younger Stella, amirite.

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This one for Flesh Kernel. Dont ask why but I went insane drawing this. It just never came out right. Ill redo some day.

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fair use law

For the Concord Initiative, one of the first ones. While it could surely be better I really like the composition I did here.

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Isn't this the guy who has to copy and paste his characters?

For Oni x Fox. Made based on a particular scene. Was also pretty difficult dunno why.

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For Eerily Lovely, my latest one. There is a color version too but I just guessed so I post this one.

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Thats it. Hope posting so many pics together its not too annoying. I have more fanart planned in the near future probably. For non hyw related series too.

What did you base Rau off of?

Nothing on particular. I wanted the protagonists to be a red oni and a blue oni because onis are always presented like that. Decided to give one horn to the red oni, and her hairstyle went accordingly, two to the blue oni and got the same.

There is obviously lots of inspiration in their personalities from myself, people I know, etc, but in designs it was as simple as that. Also gave Azu shorts because she was more of a melee fighter than Rau and she considers herself classier, while Rau wears complete rags initially. Its also a hint that their characterizations start going the inverse way after the first part, with Rau becoming more feminine in an attempt to hide her oni side and Azu more masculine thanks to eating Shuten.

aww that explains a bit though.
I always read your comic! but given your update schedule I don't mind a spoiler here or there as I'm likely to forget by the time it's revealed properly.

he did say fanart is okay.. which only makes this more confusing
that's probably why. it's all cut and paste, so anyone easily could use the same materials and make something identical.

Is kids getting possessed too edgy?
also My Webcomic is about teens fucking w magic and monsters trying to stop humanity from realizing their on the cusp of a zombie apocalypse. I dont know how to separate my webcomic to the 1039384 other webcomics with the same concepts.
What would you like to see that never been done before in those genres?

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The zombies behave like normal people (like in "They live") only the little witches realize, the gag is that they are obviously zombies but as they go in suit and tie to work nobody notices it.
They (the zombies) try to conquer the world but with more normal tactics, like manipulating the Dow Jones, legislating useless laws, or buy the press

I was kinda thinking about going this route, they live their daily lives but still rot and they have to find ways to hide it. But the other monsters/humans not even realizing it is pretty fucking funny.
Oh, and other monsters can also turn into zombie hybrids

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Currently there are 4 page remain in Rococo Comic Chapter 2. The first draft of the storyboard for Chapter 3 has been completed, there will be 20 pages.

Its going on kind of a tangent with a different pair of magical girls, hopefully exposition paid off if I can finish it fast enough...

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>What is your current goals when it comes to improving your skills or your comic? What's your plan?
At this point, work on marketing and figure out what's the best way of promoting my comic
>How often do you work on anything non-canon based on your comic?
Everything is canon, but I do try and make each and every arc standalone as much as possible. That way people can easily jump in.

NEW UPDATE

tapas.io/series/Ibrahim-Coyle
webtoons.com/en/challenge/ibrahim-coyle/list?title_no=270091

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Eerily Lovely update!
Spook & Spell Part 9

tapas.io/episode/1443207
webtoons.com/en/challenge/eerily-lovely/spook-spell-part-9/viewer?title_no=255060&episode_no=18

eerilylovely.smackjeeves.com/comics/2815720/spook-spell-part-9/

A bit more spooky this one.

>What is your current goals when it comes to improving your skills or your comic? What's your plan?

Learning cross hatching, picking up Loomis and keep posting non stop.

>Alt Q: How often do you work on anything non-canon based on your comic?

Very very rarely. Art trade mostly.

Pic related is a fanart, and i love it. Granted, I don't have many but still.

I surely hope so

Mi negro. I'll post colored stuff soon.

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working in the cover

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okay it is eerie how you keep updating exactly as I'm checking your site for the day.
I think, this time, it's okay that I don't know what's going on?

Not sure if this looks finished. It is strange not having gutters. I also think I may have made the ancestor nightmares less spooky.

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They are a bit less spooky, but it might because they are all apparently cut in half exactly in the middle like they are butted up against the edge of the panel while also overlapping which I find kind of distracting.
The previous version makes them look more three dimensional and haunting

This fucking tension, so good.

bump

Last chapter for Volume 1.

>What is your current goals when it comes to improving your skills or your comic? What's your plan?

Figure out what exact 'look' im going for. I'm still feeling things out. I'm taking inspiration from stuff like Hellboy, Dorohedoro, Blame! , and Onani Master Kurosawa. Just gotta figure out what to do with all that.

did you forget to post a pic. I feel like you forgot to post a picture.

Yes ,but how do you do decide on which sfx to use if they are all in japanese?

God i hate drawing beds

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What are you asking?

My absolute sides.
Also yeah fuck drawing beds.

only if it's porn and you're not tagging it correctly, or you're literally sending it to them. some creators don't want to see that shit, especially if they are drawing for all ages

Not bad, your jokes are usually shit but this is cute.

kek

Are you trying to do sound effects in Japanese, or wondering how to translate them *from* Japanese to English?

oh son of a cunt i did

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Why do you have "deadline" and "due" on your sketches?

SAO doesn't work again
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

*SAI

no, unless the creator is a really shitty/autistic person, I can't imagine why someone would get upset at that

>tfw have characters but no setting

reposting from last thread

>What is your current goals when it comes to improving your skills or your comic? What's your plan?
Try to work faster so I can upload weekly more pageroos.

Tapas: tapas.io/series/PREDATHEOSIS
Tumblr: predatheosis.tumblr.com/
Webtoons: webtoons.com/en/challenge/predatheosis/list?title_no=227480
Newgrounds: newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1434168/1
Russian translation by Prov22 : newgrounds.com/art/view/prov22/predatheosis-1-russian-translation

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>tfw have setting, characters, and story but no character designs

I frickin love your style user.

How do you decide on what's in a panel's background?

if they are outside i add some mountains and trees, inside some furniture. Hell yeah.

you know what I meant

Actually, your question is pretty vague, can you elaborate?

My currents goals are improving my art skills as I work on my comic. I learned waiting around for your art to get better is no good, instead I jut headfirst into it. I try to take inspiration from other's work, one example is It Hurts!
Also a new page is out!
tapas.io/episode/1444361

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I have a storyboard, but I can't decide on what belongs behind the characters and where the characters are in relation to them. I only have a vague idea like "school", but don't know how to use that.

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First you have to pick a location. It could be a classroom, library, courtyard, cafeteria or some other "school" location. Now try mapping it out and placing your characters in a way that matches your storyboard. Like, maybe one is standing by a window and one by the blackboard? Then apply it to your panels. If you don't know what objects ect to place in the background try looking at IRL photos for inspiration, fx google "classroom" or something. Hope that helps.

Also try keeping the background elements consistent in relation to your characters or the viewer might get confused.

What if it's a setting that doesn't exist irl?

is he potatrump? this is weird

If your setting has no references to real life to draw inspiration from (which I find kinda hard to believe) then I guess you will just have to fill in from your imagination. If you are talking about something like sci-fi or fantasy, both those genres actually draw heavily from real life. One from science and the other from history and folklore. I mean, sure, it can be a non existent classroom on another planet or something. But for the readers to recognize it as a classroom in the first place, you have to use elements that you would typically associate with a classroom IRL.

are you the guy who wanted to sell ocs?

get a character designer, bounce your idea off them and see what happens

While I hate these kinds of answers, not enough parameters to resolve. Notably you didn't say what kind of story it is or what the hero can do.

>Is kids getting possessed too edgy?
LOL.
Also isn't that Ava's Demon?
>I dont know how to separate my webcomic to the 1039384 other webcomics with the same concepts.
Also on the topic of annoying non-answers: execution. you make your story different by telling it differently. It doesn't help your problem, but I don't think your concepts are that cliche. Zombies just show up in shit, they're never the focal/selling point. That'd be on the heroes and the monsters.

>I dont know how to separate my webcomic to the 1039384 other webcomics with the same concepts.
... I was originally going to say something about how the zombies should work by Dark Souls rules and the depression of modernity is making people Hollow out, to tie those plot points together, but then I realized I just assumed that second part. What are your concepts?

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Also, last thread;

>Does this guy seem like protagonist material? What can you infer from his design? Or is he just outright badly designed.
You looked like you didn't get any good replies. He's very detail heavy, which seems like it'd be annoying as he'll be drawn the most. His head is drawn small and he seems inexpressive- at first glance I thought he was wearing a death mask. He doesn't look like the hero but that hardly means anything if he is the hero. I do not believe it is a bad design. Make his head bigger, though, and more vertical- more human. All his features are squashed up by his eyes in addition to looking stoic.

I'm not sure if anything is up with the costume or if it is, if it is changeable. Digitally change pants to a mocha/khaki color, to break up whiteness?

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>you didn't get any good replies
oh I forgot to reply. I was gonna say he seems to be all over the place. he's got this grim face but these gigantic ears and a super sassy pose. Is that a sleeveless longcoat with a regular jacket under it?

Come now, how is this a question?

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Never read Ava`s Demon, but I guess the title says it all!
>What are your concepts?
Eh just that the vampires(one is in the imagine) and werewolves pretty much fucked themselves. They refuse to realize the apocalypse is their responsibility or to work together. The witches are stuck making the cure, while insane humans start worshiping the zombies and think they're a sign of the rapture.
Patient Zero is still conscious and is a NEET turned into a "god" by this insane cult.

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neat pic!

> he's got this grim face but these gigantic ears and a super sassy pose
not the ears (or maybe the ears but I'm not awake enough to BS about tone right now) but that actually made sense to me- stern face and casual pose give the feeling either that he's very used to violence or cruel.
>Is that a sleeveless longcoat with a regular jacket under it?
I think its all one piece so either he's wearing a labcoat like a science villain or it's a white great coat and he's someone's elite henchman

*image
im fucking drunk

Why yes goblin lady, I will hug you.

oh no user, she`ll bite your dick off! oh no he has earphones in he cant hear us-

hard to bite off the dick of someone who's busy hugging you. That's dick protection 101!

doeofdeadwood.smackjeeves.com/comics/2551795/page-1/
S'good!

Wait what genre actually is this? What would normally happen in it? It's not a zombie apocalypse those are set after the zombies win. Apologies for not having any good ideas but I've got nothing right now

jeez, that IS good. Just read the first 50 pages and then the end. Worked pretty well.
Such quality should be unsurprising from an author that puts a gay couple in the first pages and then, when fans sperg out with glee, shuts them down by saying matters of orientation aren't being put in for any kind of special hip reason or inclusion points, or even with any thought put into it

i was sorely disappointing when i realized what the ending was going to be back when he was working on this
imo it felt like a total copout and there was barely any indication/setup for it
the best scenario i think would have died but deadwood still loses, or if rig went back to be enslaved again forever

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I mean, it's a KIND of slavery. basically the same lonely life as before, but now it's on her terms.

So my next update is planned for next sunday, and hopefully that will be a regular thing. I'm hoping for at least 4-6 more pages done by then.

I just did this rough and was wondering what you guys thought of the transformation sequence. Should i add more frames, or does it get the point across pretty well?

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You know, what you lack in drawing skill, you really have in direction. That transformation sequence is exactly enough frames, and exactly the right ones.
I hope when you get better over time, you don't lose this creativity. I know I did. Visual ideas that used to flow like streams now get caught up in dams of being-acutely-aware-of-what-won't-physically-work

One thing i have found helps is the knowledge that i have no idea what i am doing, so i am just willing to try anything. I know in my head what i want to see, and i just give it my best effort to convey that, no matter how bad the results are.
Like i see a lot of artists on here do everything they can to not draw hands or feet, but the scene in my head demands hands and feet so i just do it, results be damned.
I try not to let anything intimidate me.

my character wears shoes

I still have no idea how shoes work. I get potatos or triangles.

great attitude, man. Hopefully we rub off on each other
shoes are fucking hard. someone posted a really useful high heels guide at least. I've made every one of those mistakes, and more.

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Is it possible to change my artstyle completely? I don't like it at all.

Yes. It just takes time and practice.

Like 90% of it. Try to keep the good parts.

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yes, but hoo boy it's gonna be hard if you're not already really fucking good at art

I don't remember you posting pages 1-4. I'd remember a comic like this.
I think you should write larger. your handwriting is actually pretty nice to look at, and suits the style.

Thank you! I didn't expect anyone to like my handwriting. I'd assumed I'd be replacing it.

I didn't post the earlier ones because I'll likely redraw some panels. If I can find an efficient way to color it, I'd like to. (Flash takes too long, and Affinity Designer just doesn't seem to be for art.)

yeah you should give a real program a start, clipstudio or something

Taking part in an event. Trying out color. Instantly regretting it. lol

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Quick Space Pack sketch of Bally and Nismo looking at... something.

I'm a little stuck at a certain point in my writing for Space Pack, hoping to figure it out before I get more involved in working on it this summer.

Please don't call your fanart terrible.

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oh events.
nothing with a gatling gun can ever be regretworthy

So cool! That's a really nice pointing hand too, though the thumb is folding over onto what appears to be the proximal phalanx rather than the intermediate one (bit too high, should be down one joint)
I wish my quick sketches looked this good.

A porn comic would get me views the fastest, right?

Thanks so much!! And thank you as well for the note about the thumb, I appreciate that! I'll go back and adjust it!

Belated Cardinal Junction update!

tapas.io/episode/1444570
webtoons.com/en/challenge/cardinal-junction/converging-paths-page-07/viewer?title_no=196040&episode_no=12
cardinaljunction.smackjeeves.com/comics/2815909/page-07/

>What is your current goals when it comes to improving your skills or your comic? What's your plan?

To find a proper balance between elaborate textural designs and visual clariety (ie no line saturation.) With this recent page, I layered different pen sizes over the characters, but not the background. I'm getting a Pilot MP fountain pen (fine nib compared to my Ahab's flex nib) in the mail soon, and am going to try inking the next page to see what kind of difference it makes.

I'd also like to update with two pages per week like previously, but my recent style changes make the process slower. Tbh, that sounds like an excuse to me. I know I can pump out more. I just don't want to risk a potential burn-out.

Oh, and investing time in color, lol. I'm oddly avoidant of color. I even got a new set of water colors, yet they sit there because I'm a procrastinating li'l fuck.

>Alt Q: How often do you work on anything non-canon based on your comic?

Practically whenever I experimental draw. Most of the concepts in my comic are made from drawing random designs then deciding to incorporate it into the comic later.

>Pic-related

I absolutely love this. Saved.

>the terrible fanart I have drawn

You call it terrible. I call it wonderful.

>Stella from Faust Fall, which has gone into the damned hiatus series list. Did not add her burn marks. So... a younger Stella, amirite.

You're in luck then! I'm currently working on the next script to FaustFall. It's gonna be a bit lore-heavy and introduce some new characters. After I finish the current issue of Cardinal Junction, it'll become my next priority.

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How would you go about promoting your comic, if you had literally zero online presence?

I'm a comic creator and want to post my comic online in early 2020 on its own website (I've decided on a 50 page buffer.) Now I've been wondering what would the smartest way to handle this be?
Of course I could get social media account, but I want to spend most of my spare time drawing the comic and don't feel like trendhopping/ doing fanart. My current idea is to just concentrate on producing my comic and worry about the promotion like a month before release, creating a web presence with promo material, posting on imageboards/forums, giving sneak previews to comic reviewers, doing a short YT animation etc
Maybe that sounds a bit over the top for what is just a webcomic, but I feel like - how will people know my story exists, if I don't promote it? What do you guys think? Any tips?

Shill it on reddit, find a similar fanbase and shill it there. Mostly you need some big guy to notice you.

My current goal in improving my art is to be able to draw backgrounds more freely. I hate drawing them a d I want to be able to feel happy drawing them. I also want to be able to handle the technical part of comics better. I think I might take a course if these things.

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>What is your current goals when it comes to improving your skills or your comic?
right now, I want to get gud at drawing backgrounds. I hate how they always look ms paint tier.
>What's your plan?
probably just practice backgrounds on the side and use very nice pictures that I find for reference. I've been putting off learning perspective for too damn long so I'll have to properly teach myself that too.

>How often do you work on anything non-canon based on your comic?
very very rarely, now that I think about it. not counting scribbles, scrapped work, and rough sketches, I've only done like, two finished standalone drawings of my OCs since I've started my comic last year.

lets do it co
seniority awarded to early birds that roll correctly

your cast must be what was provided in picture but you can choose how you want them to look

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learn perspective my user

there is no faking it here. its a must and if you are serious about making comics, youre only wasting time not learning it ASAP!

its not as hard as it seems as long as you remember the KISS principle(keep it simple, stupid!)

you got this!
let this kid teach you and once you learn the fundamentals
youtube.com/watch?v=kdII1q72sZw

dont overthink it!

>What is your current goals when it comes to improving your skills or your comic? What's your plan?
gesture, composition, and turning a script into art.
To do studies and draw a webcomic to practice it

Tried doing better composition, but couldn't find any books about it.

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Where would I go to higher an artists? Is there a tag I should look for on social media or would it just come down to looking for random artists and pitching to them a project? What type of quality would $50-100 per page would get me?

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Next catfight when? I want to enter

that 4th panel is way too busy, his face is a mess and i cant even what emotion hes supposed to be doing

Its aspirational, I suppose.

Its a deadline for finishing that particular page, based on an ideal production schedule of 5 pages a week. It is in theory possible to accomplish if I dedicate a full time schedule to this project during my weekly day offs, by play pretend that I am being paid hourly from myself to myself.

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a new page...
seluda.cfw.me/comics/177
tapas.io/episode/1442064

usually related to porn... like if the series is for all-ages and you tag it, young readers might come across it, or if the characters are underage.

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The porn question its a lot more complex than the fanart one. Personally I wouldnt be bothered at all by it, but its easy to understand why some authors would.

freakanimes.com/habiti/comic/ch2-p12/

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I would love it if someone wanted to lewd my characters. I couldn’t fap to them though.

What made you want to draw a comic?

How do I become as successful as Jeff Jacques?

Hey everyone, Deft Beck here

Check out the latest page of my webcomic The Bekkoning, a cyberpunk fable about restoring lost memories.

comicadia.com/presents/comic/the-bekkoning/the-bekkoning-page-three/

Updates Fridays!

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Why is this so relatable, I like to see them having fun

$50-100 a page is literal industry pay. You’ll likely be fine with an okay artist for that.

Here is a quick design of the pirate sword, Snakebrand

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I made characters that I wanted to tell a story with, but had absolutely zero confidence that I could tell it properly in a novel form with my shitty narrative writing.
Plus comics are cool and I read them a lot, so why not try it myself.

>What is your current goals when it comes to improving your skills or your comic? What's your plan?

Just trying to write consistently.
>How often do you work on anything non-canon based on your comic?

Not terribly often. Planning some radioplays for Bekkoning.

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What do you mean by write consistently? I'm familiar with draw consistently, to make the characters in your story look the same, but when you say write consistently does that mean to make your story tonally even too?

Write on a consistent basis. Like daily.

Makes me want to draw lewd.

Write about what?

Write comics, of course.

What is your schedule like? For writing and drawing.

Weekdays I usually write after I get home from work. Weekends I write in like a cafe or between stuff at a friend's place on my laptop

You ever made a film in your head constantly running nonstop everyday, that you just had to have it on paper just to stop it from playing hopefully.

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I finished my chapter, I Didn't expect it to take 3 months, but I managed to pull through. Next step is to do some character polish and write out the next chapter.

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hm... think the porn concerns are pretty straightforward. getting upset with normal fanart is perplexing to me though.

enjoy... ! draw characters having a fun... ! or... not........

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Jesus Christ this. It's like an obsession, i started drawing just to get it out of my head.

neat,
how do you make the screentone dots?

Not really, I only have vague ideas that keep running in my head with no plot written. I might have the beginning or ending, but nothing that's well written. I like your character that you drew, how did he get those scars?

Naw I didn't draw that, it's from a manga called beastars.

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Why's Legosi in a skirt

Oh wait that's the other wolf

That's his mom in the latest chapter, his mom was a little thot.

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that is his lizard mom who became a thot and killed herself

i knew theyd make her mom a villain

she isn't

Newest page of Tom N Artie is live

tapas.io/episode/1426025

>What is your current goals when it comes to improving your skills or your comic? What's your plan?

I'm currently trying to improve my writing on the dialogue and jokes side. One of the reasons I do Tom N Artie Tales is that it allows me to experiment with this kind of stuff.

>How often do you work on anything non-canon based on your comic?
My artist has been working on getting into animation and has been using the duo to practice with. Haven't seen anything yet but that might be a thing.

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>acts only in selfish desires and impulses
>tragic backstory fostering mental illness
>has no remorse on any of her actions
seems like the perfect setup for a villain

>doe of deadwood ended
Wait, what?
>doe of deadwood had a disappointing ending
youtu.be/wOOvuxS_RBw?t=22

warosu.org/ic/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=https instagram
desuarchive.org/aco/search/text/https instagram/

Every Instagram link given on /ic/. Honestly I don't think there's a ritual to hiring artists, I just figured you go to where ever they hang out and PM whoever's style you like. When last I checked the price/page was $400, but looking it up now it seems like its between 75-200 dollars. Last I trust /ic/

deviantart.com/johnchalos/journal/average-pay-rates-for-comic-book-artists-391906146
Linked because it has citations

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My first attempt at drawing human(female) I need help with face structure, fabric folds, shadows and basically everything else.

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400 seems like a high rate, probably would be given to a bigger name artist, definitely something a big publisher can afford more than an individual trying to hire someone. I guess at the end of the day it depends on the individual.

fairpagerates.com/year-in-review-2015-survey-results/

Page rates are all dumb anyway.

$400 per page? jesus fucking christ
you may as well learn to draw yourself instead of giving someone most of your paycheck to draw some silly webcomics

>$400, $200, $75
Ho-lee phawken shyte. Just LAWL
Those better be from the top artists of the internet.

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I love that the wildness of the style is slightly subsided while depicting regular humans

gimme a sec to get these going.
head structure ref: high cheekbones, small chin for females. strong jaws for men.

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face expressions

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I like that relaxed kinda bored pose, just playing with money
I've done comics for 100 dollars a page, and they were cel shaded and black and white (wasn't much extra work to give him a different color lines/shading for each character) and that still felt like I wasn't making much per hour. Remember, each panel is a drawing.
super neat and very alien look to that armor

Hey at least you're aware of those shortcomings. Great job for a first try.
Try to think of cloth more as the curved thing it is, not folded like paper. I also suggest increasing the size of the top half of the head (with or without decreasing the size of the bottom half)

fabric basics

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I don't know japanese

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cheat sheet for light source/shadow color on a face. just keep in mind when you make a shadow what direction the light is coming from and try to have all the other shadows match. you're just creating the illusion of depth.

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repeating:
>-Add your comic to the Comic Rocket and Top Webcomics registries. Remind viewers to hammer that like button.
>-Multiple hosting (maybe? people phrase it like it's a hassle and no one reads anything but weebshit on Webtoons)
>-chat on your official accounts, you suddenly have a personality for people to care about and it's free advertising
>-Put up a TV Tropes page. It's how I find new comics. I like that it talks about how cliches are used, apart from being surprisingly investing you get a preview of the mood.
>-join a Spiderforest-alike or have a sidebar that's just links to other comics. It takes a much longer time to draw a comic than to read one, you're not in competition. It also shows you like whoever, so there's an icebreaker
>-be wowing somehow
>-be wowing somehow and stick the page on imgur
desuarchive.org/trash/search/text/ramalach/
>worth your time, really!

No pointers on how to actually just advertise because I use an adblocker everywhere. Also if you want to get really paranoid, whenever Top Webcomics comes up people are surprised its still around, nothing big on there actually seems big (okay they have SSSS, XKCD and Unsounded in the top 40, but shhh) and none of the ones I checked draw focus to the vote button

not a requirement to use the reference, get your cultural appropriation on sjw-chan

>imagine not valuing your work

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Thanks. Do you have more about drawing eyes and mouth like ?

>not valuing your work

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>imagine get banned

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> I also suggest increasing the size of the top half of the head
Basically make hair higher? I was thinking about that. Honestly i can see that something wrong but can't fix it because i lack the skills.

a ton, but it might be easier to find what exact style you're looking for with a google search for cartoon/comic/anime mouth chart or eye chart.

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webtoons.com/en/challenge/badoom/ups-and-downs/viewer?title_no=302822&episode_no=5
New episode is here!

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You have to think about the underlying skull, and think about how high off of it the hair rises. It's easy to fall into symbol-drawing for hair, but it's equally easy to accidentally draw the head's top too low. Seems like a really common error. Also, a lot of recently-common drawing styles (many of which get lumped under "tumblr") intentionally exaggerate the lower face area to Jokerlike proportions, as if deliberately defying anime and its oft-squished lower face areas, and/or to intentionally add androgyny to females.

Just get your facial construction skills to where you like them, and you can't go wrong.

Porn maybe, but mostly because they wasted their porn talent on my junk. I don't get fanart very often, most of it is from this one guy I'm keeping alive.

I just link the least read page like this tapas.io/episode/1044264
It's kinda wonky, wonkier than the usual fare.

I couldn't find the webcomic I wanted to read. And tried to fill that gap.

Yes.

Just put them in your house, and have them react to your mess.

This is the most fun and cozy little apocalypse ever. getting lovely calvin and hobbes feelings. There's something wonderful about people actually having fun in a world where they need their gas masks to avoid a horrible fate.. like you'd think the priority would be getting to somewhere where those can come off, and then staying there. But this is just their lives now.

>I couldn't find the webcomic I wanted to read. And tried to fill that gap.
My art motives are similar, but it's usually more like "couldn't find the toy/videogame I wanted, so I did drawings and then pretended my eyes really hard"

Here's a new Monster Lands page. Marcus doesn't want to do a fetch quest, but Nadil thankfully already has what they all need.

Read more here: monster-lands.com/

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Learn to draw

chapter 2 seems like its gonna be pretty long
like, over 100 pages long
not sure if this is a good thing... i just hope other chapters don't end up being this long

(pic related is as far as I got sketched out)

i had some ideas in my head (character designs, weird weapons, some action scenes) and i wanted to use them in a story. a webcomic seemed like the way to go.

thanks user

really like the colors, user. gj

how much time does it take you to draw a page? because of all the details and stuff. it looks really cool

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Any advice on how to make a drawing "solid"

Thank god people think alien when they see the armor, I was going for a biopunk thing.

you're gonna have to define what you mean by "solid"

google.com/amp/s/blog.animationmentor.com/solid-drawing-the-12-basic-principles-of-animation/amp/

look at dewds art and the opposite of what he does

why did he stop posting

uhhh, now that you mention it, he did. How strange.

yeah it's like a quarter guyver, a quarter gigantomakhia, and at least half pretty original kinda shit I've never seen before.

Hey guys, I just launched my webcomic called Vector & Raster here:

vectorraster.tumblr.com/
instagram.com/vectorraster/

I wanted my first comic project to be pretty simple so I don't work my ass off on something that not many people will see. It's an idea I've had for over two years now with many pages of notes and I'm finally disciplining myself to make it. It'll be a gag-a-week/story-driven comic, and I'll be updating it Mondays and Fridays for the time being.

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Cool. Keep posting it here, I feel like I could easily get hooked on this
Pretty distinctive style, the lack of clothing delineation reminds me of Home Movies but he still has the sleeves detailed.

thank you for this, pants and folds are my bane

what are some good places to upload a webcomic?

internet

This. Meatspace is okay but you have to print the shit on wood pulp sheets with like... squid cum or something.

famous artist course institute of commercial art
pretty much covers everything anybody wants to know. plenty of scans on google
tapas, webtoons, smackjeeves, comic fury, tumblr, and there's also anthology sites you have to apply such as hiveworks or comicadia. just look around and do some research on what works best for you.

Aw fuck.
Patreon suspended my accounts that I tried to grandfather in. The email notification is giving me a chance to repeal that. Anyone have any tips to not fail this?

I like it so far but there's nothing to say yet

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suspended? why?

Probably the same guy that was creating accounts to sell.

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I plead the fifth.

No reason given but I've only been accessing them through Tor, which will change your IP (and country of origin!) every time you load a new page. That tied with them being new accounts is probably suspect. I wanted advice for getting through this because I only have 4 and don't want to lose any.

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aww thanks I'm happy you liked it.

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It's so weird to look at things like this and aesthetically enjoy the 'wrong' ones just as much, if not more, than the 'right' ones

I did that and it didn't help. The drawings still look flat.

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Are they digital? Can you post them?

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One of my biggest influences for the armor design is this Short Run Sereis called Abara. Guyver's armor is very insectoid and is comprised of a carapace. The armor in Abara is made of ribs wrapped around the wearers body. Itrued doing a fusion down the middle where the hard parts are bone amd the soft parts are muscle and sinew.

My other big inspiration is the soulsborne franchase with their mythology.

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Truthfully I wonder how much of this one is BSing. Point 2 seems debatable(personal priority seems to be top-middle counting as top-left) and I have no problem at all following 4.

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I've never seen real fingers do that bending-upward thing, but it looks awesome in comics.

perfect influence fusion!

I don't mind crossed tails at all, especially if they properly do cross over. Just as long as you don't have to like, go down most of a huge panel to realize "oh, it's THAT guy talking"
If it's clear right away, and I can see where the tail's going, I'm good. Better than most of the other hoops required to make these things work.

If you've never played it be sure to look up Morrowind fanart-it's set on a volcanic island where metal is rare so local armor uses a lot of chitin and moulded bone.

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why is it that real life armor proportions look so 'wrong'? like the knees look too low, but that's real. That's how real legs work when you aren't drawing them super elongated and stylized

...

I think the woman looks fine. The snake looks odd because all their parts are in the air when they'd need some on the ground for balance. if you are seeing something with the women it might be ambiguity over where her thigh should be or how much give the material should have.
>composition
got 2, one second

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>got 2, one second
I would have started posting them there but I wanted that spot for this

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This looks really complicated

It's not too bad if you break it down into chunks and learn each part individually. Besides, Most of it comes down to it saying that to make things interesting use detail, space things nicely, don't use too much or too little detail.

Got another rough finished. I was excited because Drak is back and i finally get to the part where i get to do several pages of slapstick violence.

I already went balls in with expressive masks, but how do you guys feel about expressive mechas? Would it be funnier if it was stone faced throughout the fight, or if it reacted like a character?
Justisaurus is about to have a real shitty fucking day and I want its suffering to be perfect.

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I like when that kind of thing is rarer and used for real emphasis of extreme situations. like 'even the robot can't believe you said that'

Just a quick something. I'm working on a concept drawing featuring a key faction in my Cardinal Junction series. A mysterious group of nomads before the Cardinal Junctions' foundation, known as the Eidola.

>I love that the wildness of the style is slightly subsided while depicting regular humans

Good eye! Even though the style is deliberately dark/gritty, the characters are still human beings, so they're much cleaner. Whereas my designs in FaustFall are more monstrous since there are no humans in that setting (at least in the main story.)

>how much time does it take you to draw a page? because of all the details and stuff. it looks really cool

An average page takes me 10-12 hours to complete. Formatting/lettering, drawing, and initial contours are usually the shorter parts. Hatching in the small details is when the hours count up.

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Making more progress on my height chart for Monster Lands lately

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>enjoy the 'wrong' ones just as much, if not more, than the 'right' ones

I can see story situation where the 'wrong' ones would be the better choice. For example the three kids running - one is a panicked escape, the other is training and exercise.

Yeah, and a stiff pose can make sense if you're presenting yourself or standing at attention. But not for casual lounging around.

only sort of related but I didn't want to start a new thread. whats the name of that webcomic thats just black and yellow and has a vaguely schizophrenic feel to the writing?

Simpsons

Kit N'Kay Boodle

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That was really helpful, thanks!

Super Mega Comics

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whats wrong with xkcd

This looks pretty good. I like your style and your detail work in your backgrounds are pretty great. I love the monochromatic color scheme in this scene. Its all pink but I can still tell the normal colors your characters would sport in another lighting

tfw I got too many ideas for my comic, and most of them conflict with the genre.

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Nuances like that don't matter as long as the story is good.

No story is just one genre

I guess I just have problems properly integrating those things into my story.

>Promoting your comic: miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/
might wanna update this in the OP, the link isn’t available anymore, it seems.

I'm sure all of them are good, you just need to pick one and write a story that will get the most out of it.

? I can see it just fine
Try clearing out you browser's cache

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Your right, considering the story at it's simplest is Urban Fantasy and Alternate History so that's a good place to start. Thank you user, you have opened my eyes.

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I wrote a story once, turns out it wasn't good. So, I gave up entirely.

great story bro

Sup Yea Forums,

Just released the Third Edition for our Series, Edwin Lobster. Go check it out! Any feedback is extremely appreciated.
tapas.io/series/Edwin-Lobster

We are really struggling to be able to get people to see our comic.

I know it takes time, but I'm worried we are doing something wrong.
Any tips on how to get it out there?

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Not trying to discourage you, but just from my simple searches on tapas reveal that there are quite a few urban fantasy stories out there. Do you find that intimidating? Do you have something that will set it apart?

That's the idea, if the story isn't working out and you didn't like it, being able to drop your story is the first step to writing one that will. It's hard to drop a project like that once you've committed pages to it, so better now than later.

it's boring.
has a lot of text and I can't understand what's going on with the images alone, the worst of 2 worlds
the character designs are cool!

I can't write any story. I'm not born creative like everyone else here.

What are you doing now to promote your comic?

Edwin is a really likeable character, and his design is good too. Your backgrounds are detailed and flesh out the world, the general art is good. I think the hatching is a bit messy in some places, and maybe it'd look better without (would also save you time). Increasing your values would make the pages look better overall too.

The first few pages of the first chapter were good, but the exposition dump that came after was a bit of a tough read, pic related in particular, all that text in such a small font. It was just a lot information at once, with panels vaguely related to the events.

The first chapter is very important, since it'll be what mostly hooks your audience to the story. It might be a good idea to maybe rework it so it can better describe what your story is promising.

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>creative
I don't really have anything to say about that.

If you have trouble writing, you can try writing out a scene from a movie in a literature style. So you can have experience building a world (describe the setting, sights, smells, sounds) and constructing characters (design, relationships, quirks, stories).

But I'm not really sure what people do when they've hit a creative stump. I'm sure most people started off with a vague idea and ran with it.

Alt Q: >How often do you work on anything non-canon based on your comic?

This question is a little confusing. Does this mean like just drawing random pictures of your own characters?

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Guess who is back!
>ghadar.smackjeeves.com/comics/2816679/page-22/

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Who's that black-and-white webcomic
that's a sex machine to all the chicks?

this?

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>What are you doing now to promote your comic?
Social media basics. Reddit, Facebook, Twitter and here on Yea Forums

Yeah, you're right the first edtion really needs a rework. We totally regret that exposition and have set a rework on the schedule.

We'll try to improve the script and do better.

I think shonen depends a lot on "good pages" every 8 - 10 normal pages, I think there would be space to see the coolness of the character or the drama of the monsters, situations etc.
Maybe the story is very good! but there's no "space" to see it, I don't know, I think I'm rambling

Liz and her unicorn friend returns with more challenges and enemies!

tapas.io/series/Double-Blade

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Wooo, glad you're still going. Juggling two comics isn't easy.

i've decided that i want to make a half-arsed trapped in a generic medieval fantasy land webcomic
give me some ideas to steal

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For social media basics, how much interacting are you doing? Not just posting about when your comic updates, but even divulging into some roleplay, like this is how my character would answer. It would work better with art, but it's not just fan art, and it does allow people to become familiar with your character and pique interest.

The exposition dump is pretty heavy, but you had a good opener. Most of the groundwork is there, it just needs to be executed better.

What stuff do you guys use? Digital? iPad or something? Pencil and paper then scanned? Smoke signal?

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its a straight up cliche medieval isekai, except instead of some bitchy teenage ladyboy trapped in the game, it is Rodrigo Huerte, masked wrestler and latin playboy.

deviantart.com/literature/popular-24-hours/
wattpad.com/
royalroad.com/fiction/15130/threadbare/chapter/175199/awakening-1

A good idea is not harmed by a bad execution. Find something you wish was good and reinterpret it

digital; clip studio, paint tool sai + wacom talet
traditional; anything i can get my hands on plus printer/scanner

Forget what I said, Isekai starring LOS TIBURON, SHARK OF THE LAND is the best

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I have art block very often so it gives me something to draw and share online at least once a week.

the protagonist uses modern cooking techniques to make food everyone loves, and starts a restaurant
except that concept doesn't exist yet because peasants can't afford it, so he'd probably become the personal chef to royalty. that's less fun.

Digital: CSP only
I use google docs, and Microsoft word for scripting.
I have a cheap irl drawing notebook for thumbnails.

How do you come up with an idea for a webcomic? Does it just come to you? Or do you have to dwell on it for awhile?

learn loomis first

>How do you come up with an idea for a webcomic? Does it just come to you?
It came naturally to me over time. I can't imagine sitting down to forcefully think of a story for a webcomic.

I'm bursting with ideas at all times. Each project is shaped by how practical that idea is to execute in each format.

you talking about writing ideas? style ideas? or all of it?

How do i access the idea creating part of my brain? I have no ideas and I would like to have some.

All of it

I don't understand why you'd want something you don't have already. all of my interests are about feeding my existing tendencies.

This. How do you come up with creative ideas?

Who here is struggling with the semester tests?

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disgusting

Dude seriously, last time I only scored like 5 million, and my motility-

oh, SEMESTER tests? nah.

dont bully Hugo! he´s a good boy haha

how the fuck do i design a character, bros

step 1: naked.

give them similar unique characteristics that you enjoy in your favorite characters, don't copy though, just find what makes those elements so enjoyable for you and apply that information to creating your own character.

what does this even mean

There’s a subscription service for those that operates out of Synecdoche, New York.

Space Pack sketch I did last night. Trying to do a little background practice

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It depends on the objective of your project. What are you doing with it?

Is this a character part of a story? Is he or she a marketing mascot? What is the demographic you are thinking about having this character appealing to?

Or you can make a OC based on something and just make more and more changes to it until it turns into something original.

Why do you want to make a web comic? If you are not just interested in some sort of ideas, why are you doing this? What are you interested in? Is there a type of story that you were interested in, but you couldn't find it done in a way specifically to your liking? You don't have to draw a web comic just to fit in some how, start with something you are interested in.

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He was banned for this post

what sizes do you usually use for your pages?

3000x4249px
then scale to 800x11xx for the upload

would 1299x2067 be too small?

as a starting canvas? yes. almost definitely yes.

How do you get used to drawing so huge? Everything looks too big to know what I'm drawing when it's 100% and when I zoom out it's all pixelated and shitty

What do you guys think?

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I work at about that size, and at 300 dpi it's like a standard A5. I was able to print it out fine on an 8.5x11" printer paper without any noticeable drop in quality.

As for drawing big, you just have to get used to it. I thought I could get around it by going traditional but digital was easier for me in the long run.

thumbnails, they help you figure out where you are and make sure that the layout looks good even if you can't see the entire picture

just increase your brush size dude

Very cool.

A few notes, though, if you don't mind:

Big left side panel: He's quite stiff, in his arms and stance. I expect him to be hunched over more and flexing his arms more as he's crushing these brats.

His hand on the left girl: It doesn't look tight at all. Breaks the effective intensity of the eye in the panel adjacent.

Those kiddies should be kicking and thrashing a bit more, which should also be forcing the strangler to be in a more dynamic pose.

Great stuff, I'm intrigued!

Also soon that 800x11xx size will be obsolete as 4K becomes the norm within the next 5 or so years

Finished this page!

Sorry i haven't been posting recently i've just been working on a SUPER SECRET ANNIVERSARY PROJECT.

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>Everything looks too big to know what I'm drawing when it's 100%
which is why you'll be drawing at 50% or less. I'm drawing at 25% right now.
>and when I zoom out it's all pixelated and shitty
there's a few things that can mean. If you mean your lines look really thin and sparse, you need to use a bigger brush. If your lines actually have jagged stairsteppy lines when you zoom in, congratulations! your computer and program combo can't handle drawing while zoomed out. You're in pretty good company, but you're also fucked
generally though, pixels are what become LESS visible when you draw larger.

actually made me chuckle. you're ok sometimes dewd

NOOOOOOOOOOOO think in my RAM!

I thought Mumm-Haggar-Ra here was rhyming, but I guess just those two lines.

So you're saying 300dpi at 8.5x11 is only 1300x2000ish? That seems really small to me
Like, doing the math, 300 dots times 11 inches is 3300 pixels.

SD look like THIS?

I refuse to let meaningless trends affect what I do, especially when it's been proven you can't see improvements at that size.

>Wait, So!
Um... What?

too young? Maybe. but Angel is too mormon

Have you seen how small some images look in 4K compared to a standard HD res? They're so tiny you can't read the text.

He's always been super buff under the shirt, he was like that the entire previous chapter

Thanks!

SD, not SO, the font makes it look a little bit similar.

I think the idea is that you'd make larger images, user. My point is they've shown you can't tell the difference when pixels get below a certain size

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Is this from the comic about the cab driver who kills people and steals their abused dogs? It looks like the main character.

That's the one.

If you mean with zero prior ideas, like from scratch, it typically comes when I watch/read something with a really cool premise, but I might wanna take it in a different direction. I decided to catch up on One Piece a while ago, and remembered how cool the idea of an ocean adventure was, so I thought of the idea of going into the depths of the sea rather than across it, and then ideas sorta spidered off of that like a chain reaction.

Everything is derivative, there is nothing new under the sun, you just gotta rehash it into your own take.

>Looks like a girl
>Is actually a girl
I don't think that's a trap, user

Except it is.

who? the guy in that picture isn't indicating anyone in particular, and that post wasn't replying to any images

Alright user if your such an expert then tell me what the fuck this thing is.

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i think the user was talking about the character in op, who's a girl (female) but a reverse-trap too somehow?

looks like a dude to me. Not any particular feature, but the whole package. especially the eyes.

As far as i got tonight.

Panels are looking barren. Not sure if it's effective or half assed. Furthermore, I don't know if I should increase font size in this instance. I've been told uniformity is generally ideal, but they seem small on this page.

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just let him begin his hero journey!
AAAAAAAAAAAAA (he's cute when he suffers btw)

you're right. Its time first time drawing characters interacting with each other so dynamically and it was harder then I thought, I dunno though, part of me likes the stiffness you know? I'll try some other stuff out with it though.

I didn't even catch that and I feel like an asshole for not making him rhyme more

The fuck is this.

How do i get unscared to make a webcomic story

Never mind, i'll post results later.

Concept art for a comic I am working on. One of the primary antagonists. His name is Tsunami. He's supposed to have a very Barracuda feel to him, same level of braggadocio and extreme menace that Cuda had.
He's strong as fuck and he knows it, and there's very few people willing or able to do anything about it.

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oh shit this is professional level stuff right here! what's the name of your comic??

Transients.

>What is your current goals when it comes to improving your skills or your comic? What's your plan?
Drawing better anatomy and drawing backgrounds. I'm always guilty of leaving the background with nothing and this is a perfect opportunity for me to improve it and check real backgrounds for reference. (Also I should get back on drawing in my sketchbook. Been a damn long time I touch that thing after buying it)

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Looks awesome! Can't wait to see it when it's complete!!

Great drawing! I really like his belt buckle

geezus dude you draw for few years and still can't draw

Thank you.

So, I was trying out something a little different for Urchin, I was trying to give her bandana and belts a little more definition. I liked it at first, but the more I thought about it, I wasn't sure if it just complicated an already complicated design. I don't know, maybe I'm overthinking it. Which one do you guys think works better?

Woah, loving the colors on this one. Great job.

Liking this one a lot too, great start! Really liking the minimalist visuals.

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Not as necessary on the headband (it only makes it more obvious how the hair clips through them) but the belt? absolutely. That additional 3Dness looks a lot better than lines on a smooth silhouette.

A looks better

Finished the Eidola drawing!

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Also got a new fountain pen today (Pilot Metropolitan), so I inked an older drawing. Here's a future important character to FaustFall. Ludolf, a former slave emboldened by fear and faith to hunt down the Rot.

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stunning as usual

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Scared of people shitting on it?
If you're starting from zero, like me and many others here have, then there isn't much to fear. The fact is, if you make a shit webcomic, the worst that's gonna happen is no one caring. It's actually quite difficult to get any sort of feedback starting out.

If you mean scared as in, you're scared to make a wrong step in the writing?

Well you could always just make a oneshot comic strip to get your feet wet, and see how comfortable you are with the process.

The more mechanical approach would be, as someone mentioned before, writing it like straight up prose, a novel. Learn how to describe things, how to set up a plot/write characters,

Really the hardest part is just getting started with any one of these solutions. Sometimes it's best to just jump headfirst into it, see what happens, learn, and repeat.

On a shilling note, I'd really appreciate if ya checked out Murky Deeds. It's a sorta spooky mystery webcomic. I'm wrapping up the first volume now.

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I update on weekends, usually on sundays but think i should try with saturdays.
It's the 9th parth of the 4th chapter, it's okay if you don't know what happens, user.
Give it a try, user, shouldn't take more than 15 min to read it all.

Your last update has a creative narrative as well, guachin. Very mangaesque.

These pages breath a lighter mood than Faust Fall, that for sure.

I can't even start to imagine how would you mix watercolors with that density of lines.

Save it, friend. Its cuteness is too much for me to handle alone.

I was expecting Dio to show at any given moment. I like the style.
I'd suggest more smaller updates. One month between each is just too much.

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Noo I've read it all. We have this discussion every time.

But there's no way for me to know if I'm answering the same user.
I truly don't know how to make the storytelling simpler, my friend.

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I'm just saying maybe this time it's okay if I don't get it, because it looks like just some spooky weird stuff is happening, and it'll be explained next time.
I mean I guess the doll did a spooky thing.. or that guy did.

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NEW UPDATE

tapas.io/series/Ibrahim-Coyle
webtoons.com/en/challenge/ibrahim-coyle/list?title_no=270091

Honestly, I feel as if the twice a week updates aren't doing it for me, or anyone else for that mater, so I suppose, starting with the next chapter, I should go back to just once a week.

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Much obliged!

>These pages breath a lighter mood than Faust Fall, that for sure.

Probably because CJ is some measure of civility in its characters whereas it's survival of the fittest in FF.

>I can't even start to imagine how would you mix watercolors with that density of lines.

I'd probably have to use a cleaner inking style if I choose to color it.

>Save it, friend. Its cuteness is too much for me to handle alone.

Lol, fair point.

You updated once a month, meaning your comic was on the "new" section only thrice and for a few hours at best. Who is going to read your comic if it isn't seen?

I'd recommend to update at least once a week, or maybe even every weekday. Seems exsessive, but people are more likely to notice you posting 22/30 days, than 1/30.

Do I just start writing with a vague idea in mind? I just can’t write multiple chapters and pages at once.

bump

I was aiming for half a size of paper, but when I printed it out to test it filled the the sheet pretty well.
Test print vs page in csp, the canvas settings can be seen along with the file name, it's like 1500x2000, and I don't even use the full sheet really.

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Due to the nature of my production pipeline, my workfile and the web-published result are both at 904x1280. The component drawings are shrunk by 80-90% when put in place. Certain old pages have had a second opinion and gotten a 3616x5120 remaster, though I haven't posted those anywhere.

Any tips on how to revise a script?

Its clear enough.

Try leaving it for a couple of days and go do something else.
You'll come back to it with a fresh mind and might be able to spot things that don't work or could be done better.

Along with the other advice, make sure to keep an eye on the information given in your script and how those things connect.
An annoying beginner mistake I see too often is when a writer forgets that they didn't add information in an earlier part/chapter making things suddenly happen without warning, or they added hints to an idea in the beginning but never follow through because "they forgot" causing dead-end plot points and plot holes.

This doesn't happen as much in shorter self-contained stories, but when something like a webcomic gets written just a little faster than it is posted it starts to really show the flaws and lack of foresight.

Now, I know the daily personal webcomic has been played out to shit, however, I have an idea. Recently, I have been taking my health a lot more seriously as of late (I started working out, I quit smoking, I don't eat candy and I'm starting to drink more water and drink less soda) and I'm thinking about making a weekly personal comic sort of cataloging my experiences of going through this type of journey. For example, since I quit smoking, I've been in a terrible art block, and every time I've gotten in front of a computer to write or draw, I just think "Man, I have all these ideas, and I should think them over with a cigarette before I..." and then I just sit there as I remember that I quit smoking and need to come up with ideas on my own.

What do you think?

Yeah dude just keep workin off the vague idea, it'll kinda flesh itself out as you keep working, and then you'll eventually have a pretty good idea of what you really want once you're deeper in.

new update, first time really drawing a fight so i hope it came out well
tapas.io/episode/1446552

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Not for it but no reason to be against it. It sort of makes me think of Lawcomic or that one thing I can't remember that had a woman talking about the Caveman Diet a lot

>Now, I know the daily personal webcomic has been played out to shit
I don't think that's true, it's just that everyone here wants to make serials instead of that #relatable garbage. Non-sequential comics about stuff have a niche

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Elves on ice isn't a serial

I see no issue with trying a diary based comic if you want to just have something to work on, even if it's a one-shot panel or a 4koma. You probably won't develop a large audience (but then again, bloggers exist so...), but if it gets you in the habit of sitting down and working on something, why not give it a shot?

>those toenails
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Another page of Tom N Artie is up

tapas.io/episode/1426029

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the little fella is a cat or a mouse?

Artie is a cat/rabbit

actually friend you got a discord? This thread will likely close soon we can keep talkin there.

If I were to go diving through the archive, how many ways are there to phrase this question?

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I don't understand

Your updates are pretty long, you can get away with fewer of them

>when I printed it out to test it filled the the sheet pretty well.
That's what I've been saying every time people bring up DPI. in the end, it's gonna stretch to fit the paper. you're fine.

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>setting home printer to auto fit
>see it'll print fine!
Are you not aware there are different setups for actual book printers? So many webcomics that get popular and want to print a volume/anthology book end up having to go back and reformat older comic work. If you never plan to print your comic in the future, yeah sure don't stress over it. but if you do dpi is very important.

If my printer can do something so easily, why couldn't a professional?
They always print to fit. that's how printing works. Working at a higher resolution is important, but that's not why. If it were, it would be possible to go TOO big.

Because their equipment doesn't work like a home printer. Most on-demand printers want 300dpi, word doc or pdf format. There is a reason printers send out a 'proof' for editing before mass production. It's never impossible to go too big, you can always shrink an image down, but making it larger without pixelization is more difficult.

>word doc or pdf format

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One thing I would recomend is if you have problems visualizing certain poses, you can take a picture of yourself doing that pose, trace over it, and then redraw it with reference. If you'll allow me, I can show you what I mean.

Are you offering him nudes? thats hot

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Made couple of fixes. Still have problem grasping shadows.

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shadows are harrrd. but you'll get it.

aint too bad, whats her deal?

Your character design, though simple, is effective none the less. I get the idea that she's some kind of tired doctor that really just needs a nap.

Shadows are hard, yes, but you'll get used to them once you start to study them. Take a look at some other people's shadows and try to learn from what they have done. Like the saying goes: if you like how someone draws hands, steal that and make it your own.
Start by taking pictures of yourself, or looking at life models and see how the shadows twist and turn to create depth and shape, study Film and Television and see how they use shadow to convey a message. Theres an old book written by one of the women who invented Technicolor, in it she maps out color theory, but also shadow theory as well. If I find it, I'll link you to it since it is public domain and it is a useful tool for anyone wanting to learn more about color theory and shadow theory.

I've started making comics while I drink. I liked the first couple ones so I started making a series out of them. Even put them all in a little book I sold at a local convention!

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Like I said, I made a couple other short comics that build on this one. I like to think I'm making improvements with every story, but I won't bog down the thread with everything I've done. I guess I just want to know what everyone else's thoughts are when it comes to merchandising. I've gotten a positive reaction from other creators but I haven't cracked how to profit off of this yet. What does everyone else do?

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did you sell any copy?

Yeah, a couple. Not as much as I'd prepared for, but enough to make me satisfied. I had a bunch of other stuff at the table though and this was my second time holding a booth so I knew where to set my expectations. A lot of the positive reception I got was from talking to a variety of indie/house artists in the artists alley and handing them a bunch of free books that had one or two I was selling the whole compilation book for a buck at my table

I'm not that confident in my writing abilities to give you my discord

>80s cold war setting
>raised by a single father who works in cia
>he is constantly abscend, but still she look up to him
>decide to follow in his footstep
>grows up complete social fuck up, brash tomboy, but smart enough to graduate with good GPA to work in secret service
>the job is not what she expected
>spirals into apathy and loses the job
>becomes mercenary
I mostly inspired by team fortress 2 in tone, and i really like cold war setting.
>I get the idea that she's some kind of tired doctor
More like terrible 80s fashion. Thanks for the advice. I'll probably try coloring and shadowing other people monochrome art for the start.

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looks like roofgirl made a big pile of fuck with type o comics and this was the babies.

Uh... Thanks?

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Who are you user? What's your entrant?

That's a compliment

Change your artstyle

working on a new comic idea, how is this

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Dont listen to this bitch.

>Everything changed when I saw the purple light.
I like the matching belt buckle and shoulder insignia on this flat cutie, but it's pretty hard to judge the idea based on this one image.
you're falling pretty hard for that bait. with it you're going steady maybe?

Oh! Well thanks dude! Honestly didn't know if that was an insult or a complement by the wording of your first post. If you like that, you might like the comic I made after it too!

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It intrigues me, how often I hear this general sentiment. The most notable comments I've ever gotten have been specifically about my style, and at least half of those comments tell me that my style is ugly or otherwise repulsive. They never go into much detail beyond that, but the frequency with which I'm told this tells me that something fishy is going on. I'll figure it out one day, but I don't anticipate the style changing substantially beyond getting more polished.

I think when they say change your artstyle they mean it looks too cookiecutter. People always want to see something new and astonishing. Whether those are realistic expectations I can't tell you

I think your style is fine but this particular page is pretty bland, and very flat looking. Especially that bottom panel, which is just layered rectangles.

People kind of need to stop just using and relying on the line tool and shape tool for background because it just looks so sterile and lifeless.

it's less ugly than before, if that helps. I don't mind something being ugly that much if it's obvious the comic has a lot of skill and effort put behind it, and that's just how you wanna draw it. I might feel differently if a woman ever shows up, depending on how you draw her
But don't listen to cranks fishing for attention.
I can't imagine an art style less cookie cutter than gus's.

Resizing would help me do that more easily just FYI

Cookiecutter is a new one. I've never heard that, but it might make complete sense in regards to my backgrounds. I wuss out more often than I like.

This is true. Frustrating. Probably relevant to the above comment. Will hopefully fix tonight.

>less ugly than before
Baby steps!

Oh! Sorry about that! I'm posting a modified version of the printing files so that's probably why its so big

Finished this page today

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paper bag oni looks cool

I'm not to bothered by the art style but I can see how readers would be bothered by it. Everything just comes across very flat with the color choices and lack of texture. plus the composition leaves a lot to be desired to like that corner line on the first frame meeting up with the wall/floor line on the second frame distracts from the content.

>the unknown oni!
I think that's a helmet but now I can't unsee that.
Actually isn't there a jap thing about giant wicker baskets worn over the head for monks to lose their identity in?

It's a helmet but i kinda like that idea and might retcon it. Iv'e definitely gotta work on my helmets i usually just draw a box or really simple fluted help

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huh... it does look similar to the early to mid 00s popular comic styles but is that cookiecutter?

thanks but i don't know if i want nudes

>it does look similar to the early to mid 00s popular comic styles
Er, no? I'd love to see some comics that this looks like
bitch all artists want nudes.

Just did line work on another transformation sequence.
This one was more complex than the manipod, so i was curious if this one flowed, or if I should add more steps
no idea where Brontosaur's tail goes. I had to cheat somewhere.

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looks to me like it drapes down the back. Nothing wrong with that.
Good job!

Agreed. Is this a good direction? I'm worried it may be a bit redundant, now, but I can't be certain. I like every change except perhaps the shadow tendrils in the last panel. The silhouette of his father may be enough.

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Your panel composition doesn't do a good job at guiding the eye through each action. Your backgrounds downgrade your illustrations and you need to think of your character existing in a 3D space

Are you supposed to draw the character or background first?

Are you making your panels as big as they can be or as big as they should be?

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Depends, honestly. Ditko didn't draw backgrounds for most of his action because it wasn't important compared to what he was showing. If you're going to draw a figure that you know is going to be doing something complicated that requires a good understanding of the environment he's in, then figure that out first. For me that means sketching out a basic perspective grid and then figuring out how that character fits into it before drawing the actual background. But everyone's different. Look at what the greats do and steal from them

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I like the shadow tendrils. Id leave them. Its a great page from where I stand.

I really have to work on that. Most of the pages I've had that have achieved good composition have been due to high quality advice. I think I get wrapped up in my own head far too easily--difficult for me to map a page with a reader in mind. I may have an ego problem.

I'm not sure how to answer. I would guess not, as I tend to feel claustrophobic. On the other hand, I know I had pacing problems earlier on because I went with so many large panel scenes. Things moved rather slowly. Also, I had hoped people would look at the shape in the window, but perhaps I'm guiding them away from it...

What is it about tendrils that make them so attractive as ominous symbols and props? The alien nature or the ease of making them?

I think the important question to ask is how are you drafting your pages? Are you taking the time to do thumbnails for each page? Is there any experimentation going on with your compositions? Or do you just jump straight to the page?

I make 2-3 drafts of each page. But I certainly don't experiment much, I just now realize.

theyre so.. not solid. they remind us of wiggly things and snakes and smoke and just everything that isnt rigid and easy to keep track of.

strip panel naked is a good series to check out on composition and arranging your pages.
youtube.com/channel/UCYJAToPH5GSGShP7Yoc3jsA

holy shit lmao

>Look at what the greats do and steal from them
Sorry, but I don't know how Carl Barks worked.

do you guys think its fine to "patch in" extra pages once youve passed where they should be? I want to add a couple pages to the beginning of the my most recent chapter in order to tie toghther a couple loose ends. and feel like it would be a better way of handling this issue than wasting later pages retconning and explaining away issues.

as a reader, I wouldn't appreciate that unless you notified me on the front page at least

if I did something like this id go heavly out of my way to make sure readers knew about the changes made. like an announcement on the side bar of the site for at least a couple weeks after the change.

yeah that would be okay.

I only make shitty sprite comics.

I haven't seen a spritecomic in ages. I'd follow any one I could get right now unless it was profoundly boring.

Can I take a spin in your time machine? 2003 sounds nice this time of year...

I was lying but I always wanted to make a sprite comic. I guess if I did it now I wouldn't be accused of following trends.

Made a new chapter! So its going good!

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especially not if you make your own sprites
I would actually love to see an intentionally post-period-appropriate spritecomic done entirely in the few 2d games that have come out this decade.
But instead of constantly mentioning modern-issuey things, all real life references would be confined to the pre-webcomic era

I can't think of many recent sprite games.

Shovel Knight
Any Steam Game

>Any Steam game

Bump.

I finally finished drawing chapter 2! Now all I have to do is add the text ^_^

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How can some people work in creative fields and still write badly after working professionally? Isn't writing something that can be done by any person?

I don't like this artstyle

Because they have ideas but not the skills to implement them without a team of critics and fellow writers helping. Sure, anybody can write just like anyone can do art. That doesn't automatically imply they will do it well.

Just look at the blizzard. Metzen was a high point of blizzard's writing. And usually his stories revolved around CORRUPTION. Or doing bland shit like soldier 76. Now they have fallen to stealing concepts from captain marvel and nu star wars. I guess it depends on what you consume and draw your inspiration from, self awareness and writing skills.

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I don't know who this Metzen is

Do you even play blizzard games?

Internet is vast

You can just steal random fanfic from somewhere and adapt it to your own comic by changing characters name, nobody will notice

Anyone can write, and given enough time they can write something good on their own. When put on a deadline and held to expectations of previous success, they might try to take shortcuts,or fall into tropes, clouded judgement, and bias.
A team of writers can probably catch most of that, or an editor, most of which a lot of amateur writers don't have access to. Or, professional writers who got out of working professionally. Maybe they think they don't need it after working professionally.

>Isn't writing something that can be done by any person?
No. Anyone has the potential to write, same as potential to draw, but you need to do some work first. Just because you can do good worldbuilding or dialogue doesn't mean you know about good pacing or character arcs or any of the other things that can trip a story up.

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no

>nobody will notice
It's probably more accurate to say no one will care.
Kind of tangentially related, but wasn't Twilight just some weird Harry potter fanfic or something? Same with 50 Shades, but that was originally a fanfic of twilight. A lot of people know those were fanfics, but they got massively popular.

Actually screw it, just make a horny fanfic and then change the character names. You'll be swimming in no time.

Sounds fine, honestly. Only caveats I'd put in are don't edit old dialogue (Two Kinds general complains about this, Tom Fisbach apparently keeps making his old dialogue dumber) and make sure that doesn't screw up the archiving somehow.

I think its the shadows, see pic. The unfinished picture looks better.

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There is an oni infection in these threads. WHERE IS MY SHOTGUN?

I'm okay with the artstyle, it's the eyes being too wide and too close together.

it tries to imitate the big uguu eyed anime and it's not doing a good job about it, it falls for all the basic pitfalls of bad symbol drawing without the soul or understanding behind it
there's a right way to go about it and this isnt it

Usually, this art style will look normal in any manga but without screentone it's just look weird

Not all manga use screen tones. It should still look good without them. Its like saying its ok to let color carry weak lineart.

I think the problem is just as others mentioned; the placement on the face, the placement in relation to each other, and even (in my opinion) the line weights are all kind of working against the look.

The more Oni, the better!

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Digital colorists. Quick question. Lasso tool or Magic Wand?

I'm trying to hybridize and use magic wand for larger areas while lassoing in areas with looser lines, but I'm wondering if I'm just being inefficient in my approach to flatting.

Mixing is the best. It also depends on what you are trying to select that really makes one tool or the other better for that particular task.
If you are coloring linework, for example, wand is great for getting the larger areas, but use the lasso for smaller missed areas and sections with fine detail.

apparently those are lizards.
best job I've seen of it in years.

>best job I've seen of it in years.
don't samefag

How do I "steal" from another artist

Since I do most of my coloring with clipped layers, the way I do flats is for pure speed;
>magic wand the bg and any see-through areas
>increase selection by .5-1px or more depending on line thickness to prevent edge wash over
>invert and use fill tool on non-line art layer
Why clip layers?
>clip layer for midtone colors
>clip layer for shadows
>clip layer for highlights
>clip layer for effects/adjustments
any last minute color swaps, cleanups, or back/mid/foreground lighting changes are simple as hell after that.

genuinely show me another one, let alone a better one. I miss classic manga style

lemme go steal hecchidechu's 90s anime style brushes and get back to you.

>a quick googlan
not all that authentic. looks nice though

>not all that authentic
do you let google think for you too?

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when I can't find it any other way since the tumblr is locked, yeah.
That looks like authentic late-00s early 10s manga.

This is a sweet chapter.

TIL tumblr is more effective than sad panda

at locking content away so you can't see it?

WIP

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Native Americans will try to ban this

also birds.

I'm too poor to afford a colorist, so I'm trying to pick things up as I go.

Feeling down while I'm cracking away at this, so maybe I need a breather.

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looks good to me! Like maybe you could add a layer of shading on things like the trees, vines, and the inside of the rolled-up scroll, but you hardly need to. This is more than adequate just the way it is, and plenty of published comics look like this.
also it looks cool, link?

Thanks. No link just yet. I'm meaning to publish it all at once when it's finished, since it's a self-contained story.

New thread ready and waiting
Will post once we get to page 10

aw. well i'll be waiting

hey new thread guy, you ready?

Your use of different color values, hard shading, and texture lines negates the need for additional shading. Quality work and would print/publish well. IF you want some nit-pick crit it would only be on the word bubbles having excessive space above and bellow. The last one would also help add depth if you enlarged the font versus shrinking the bubble.

I truly hope you share a link when you finish.

Migrate