I decided to rewatch this from the beginning again thanks to season 2 coming back from hiatus this fall. Maybe a bit fast paced and bland but I still enjoyed it more then Ultimate Spider-Man.
Marvel's Spider-Man
Hunter Perez
Josiah Gomez
>Maybe a bit fast paced and bland but I still enjoyed it more then Ultimate Spider-Man.
Not really hard to see why. No matter what that one moron says, Ultimate did have far more problems.
At least with this show I don't have to deal with cut-away comedy, pointless fourth wall breaking narration, a complete misunderstanding of Spider-Man as a character and a really bizarre attempt keep the show as episodic as possible. Remember how Ultimate had Harry and Norman lose and regain their powers like five times?
Dominic Sanchez
Yeah, it's not a horrendous show or anything. It's just okay. But it really has no idea what it wants to be and just flops through ideas fast, like rushing in to give Miles powers before fleshing him out, and then benching him for a majority of the season, or the concept of rival science schools.
I actually like the character designs, but they needed a bigger budget for the show, especially for the complete lack of shading in the series.
Ian Moore
>I still enjoyed it more then Ultimate Spider-Man.
That's such a faint praise it's almost an insult.
Zachary Lewis
It needs more depth, more visual volume and Quesada's synergy dreams ruin the narrative. There are great storyboarder's yet using okay directors from filmroman.
John Martin
>and Quesada's synergy dreams ruin the narrative
That's another thing that bugs me about the series. It's not MCU pandering like the other recent Marvel shows, but it tries too hard to do Slott events instead. Having characters like Screwball or Overdrive is one thing, but they try to do arcs like Spider-Island or Superior Spider-Man in a series where Peter is still just starting out as Spidey. It's like they read Slott's Spidey and nothing else.
Is Harry even coming back? He was so fucking annoying, but he was a huge part of season one, and they completely dropped him in season two. He even had a plot thread they completely forgot about.
Lincoln Hill
So what do you think they will be doing with the Superior Spider-Man 5-parter?
>Otto actually tries to be a better hero then Spider-Man and actually starts to enjoy being a hero.
or
>Otto is just fooling everyone with his super heroics and is secretly plotting to destroy New York.
Asher Clark
Cort Lane actually spoiled a lot of this. It's the former.
Oliver Barnes
Is there a link for the spoiler?
Austin James
>It's like they read Slott's Spidey and nothing else
Well there's also the fact that Slott is helping with the series. I'm still looking forward to Superior Spider-Man.
Charles Miller
>Goblin war
Green Goblin confirmed to appear at the very least.
Samuel Brooks
Ultimate suffered from basic storytelling understanding. There's an episode where Peter becomes sick, and throughout the entire episode, they stress that he's sick. He's fighting Venom while sick. Any good writer could spin this with
1) Harry discovering Peter is Spider-Man because both of them are sick and he ran into both personas.
2) The sickness is what infects Venom and defeats him.
But nope, the whole sickness plot was for a gag at the end where he gets his team sick, whom earlier in the episode said they didn't want to be around Pete cause he'd get them sick.
Also, that episode where SHIELD is spying on him, Peter tells them to stop, but then the moral is that you should have Big Brother because Peter is attack and needs help that nobody knew about cause the cameras were gone. Oh, and the episode ends with Fury and the other teammates spying on Peter and laughing at him.
Honestly, the fuck was wrong with this show?!
Camden Smith
>It's like they read Slott's Spidey and nothing else.
I think it's more that they are running out of material to keep making Spider-Man shows about. They want Ultimate different from Spectacular and they want this new series different than both. Ultimate was pretty much "Spider-Man + MCU but WHAAAACKY!" whereas this new show is picking up the leftover pieces and going to the most recent stuff. I mean, it's not that surprising. The 90's cartoon delved into some of the more recent stuff like Carnage.
Wyatt Wood
I thought Ultimate Spider-Man more based on the Ultimate Spider-Man comics + MCU elements.
>Peter looks like his Ultimate universe self.
>Nick Fury personally takes Spider-Man under his wing trains him at SHIELD.
>Green Goblin is a monster instead of a guy in a costume.
>Venom is an experiment created from Spider-Man's blood.
Nathaniel Mitchell
Like, kindof? Sure, those elements you mention are there, but a lot of it seems to be running off the MCU and Tumblr fangirlism.
Christopher Morgan
>and Tumblr fangirlism
I'd argue this show is more guilty of that. There's a lot of Peter/Harry fujobait.
Caleb Clark
This show and ultimate looked like shit so I never bothered.
Lincoln Barnes
That is true. I see a lot of Gwen/Anya shipping on there.
But I was thinking more how after the Avengers, Tumblr was full blown making stupid jokes of everything Avengers, like how Captain America is a dorito.
Parker King
I just couldn't get over the animation.
Not just the pallets and design but the strange choices in animation and shot continuity.
Tyler Gomez
what a high fucking bar
Gavin Richardson
To be fair trying to compare to any other Spider-Man show would have lead to a more unpleasant thread.
Samuel Flores
>thanks to season 2 coming back from hiatus this fall.
source on this?
Josiah Morris
I am trying to enjoy the show, but I can't, I don't think its smart ideas matches how dumb the show really is.
For example, I found it clever to make Miles Warren Gwen Stacy's uncle, it worked in so nany ways: it toned down the creepy factor for kids, gave Gwen and Peter parallel and also explored idea how bad people still can inspire something good. It sounds very good on paper, but it was fucking boring because it weirdly decided to not keep Jackal's secret identity a mystery. We learn Miles is a bad guy incredibly early on and reveal that like next episode, what's the point? You can argue that it's for fans of the comics and most fans shouldn't be surprised by it, but no, it's for fucking kids, it's the first incarnation of Jackal (Jackal, not Miles Warren) on TV, no one makes a fucking TV show for fanbase that fluctuates between 60 to 100k comics sold per month.
This cartoon has very weird absolute lack of any build up, it just doesn't work like that, it'd be like if in Spectacular Spider-man Peter realized symbiote is evil and got rid of it the the next episode after he put it on.
The science angle rarely ever works too and as a selling point is extremely weak because mainly what happens is that Peter namedrops some physics term and then uses 80s TMNT cartoon Donatello technowizardry to stop bad guys. I don't know what's going on with the show, but all of its bright ideas just die down under the shadow of uninspired realization of those ideas.
Oliver Cooper
Easton Rodriguez
nice, I've been waiting for news on this. Thanks.
Lincoln Hernandez
Wew. QUALITY.
That first shot is almost 60s spiderman tier.
Zachary Price
It's not even Miles Warren, but his brother, for some reason. I guess they thought kids would get confused by having two Miles around.
But yeah, when I heard about that plot development, I thought it would lead to some development for Gwen, but it didn't. In the Spider-Island event, they gave more importance to her having powers for a bit than her uncle creating this entire mess. Then there's also Prowler's introduction. I was expecting them to use Aaron Davis to flesh out Miles, but no, it's Hobie Brown. Not that I mind Hobie, but still.
It's weird that this show's Peter is very incompetent compared to his teammates, yet they are much more shallow characters.
Owen Anderson
the show is sjw garbage and has horrible animations but they do clever things with black cats bad luck powers.
so would be nice if she shows up and I can watch the clip with her on youtube
Tyler Reyes
>spectacular is still dead
When will it stop hurting, bros?
Gavin Watson
Ian Ross
Bentley Thomas
Noah Hill
Bentley Watson
yes.
it died for Sony´s and Disney´s sins
Chase Rivera
>Sony traded it so they could reboot their movies
>movies end up being complete garbage
What a waste.
Asher Ward
I just don't get how it managed to have great animation so consistently. It makes even less sense considering how garbage the new Spider-Man cartoon looks, which is also stylized, has even less details, but just worse animation.
Evan Allen
burgers want to make things as cheap as possible anymore so they can max profits
Dominic Baker
get the fuck over it
Jayden Cox
Spectacular could have been the greatest Spider-Man cartoon if Sony hadn't fucked things up. Time to let it go.
Wyatt Davis
I'm opening a can of worms here, but I particularly love their sexism episode.
>gender-reversed universe
>everyone is extremely sexist towards the men there when there's no sexism in the original universe
>the lesson is supposed to be "sexism is bad, mkay?"
>because the universe is gender-reversed lesson ends up coming off as "women are useless" instead
Can't make this shit up.
Ethan Wood
It's like saying you enjoyed stepping in dried shit more than in fresh one