I’ve been wondering for a while about what y’all think of the McElroy’s and their Recent Venture into Comics ? Have youse been enjoying Journey Into Mystery ? Excited to read Adventure Zone Book 2 ? Also I’m surprised to see allot of you like them ? I was sure they’d be hated on here.
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Yea Forums has seemed to like them a bit more than /tg/, but a very frequent sentiment I keep seeing is that the McElboys are endearing and the adventure zone is tolerable despite the penultimate arc of Balance turning into “Griffin’s Storytime,”
Oh didn’t know TG had a beef with them ? Huh. And yeah while I enjoyed it it did feel like the last half was all on rails you know ?
Not good if you're looking for a real play podcast because its railroady and the dad can only kind of play, but a genuinely good story with a funny group of people
Also Amnesty is going great
I know they're re-doing Taako's race to make him a POC
I know it sounds made up but apparently, there was super duper small uproar that he wasn't black/hispanic.
Scans?
Didn’t Justin write a big post when the comic first came out basically saying they weren’t going to change it?
I'm trying to find that and it's on tumblr, which isn't available anymore lol, lemme know if anyone can see it.
Could be worse: theadventurezone.fandom.com
I mean, only because we’re prone to autism about Griffin’s style for D&D. Mostly folks don’t get out of shape about it in fa/tg/uy land because he was a first time DM trying to do his own thing and figure that thing out with Balance. Most of us have been there even if we don’t want to admit it.
I genuinely think Powered by the Apocalypse suits them and their improvisational comedy style as a family better. And for all his struggles with D&D and flourishing as a narrative player in Amnesty, Clint is a gift of a performer.
Though, between late Balance & the Balance live shows there is something endearing about Griffin’s failures of making encounters challenging for the Party and Justin just pulling the rug out from under him again and again.
Like obtaining the FRPGS of Doom or Panacea on Dracula.
Is it bad that I only find D&D appealing when the Mcleroy's play it?
I've watched other D&D podcasts that are really good at following the rules but after a while all the jargon and mechanics start to feel grating to me.
I'm more into the storytelling and roleplay aspect of D&D, not the fighting and character managing, and that's what Griffin is mostly about as a DM.
Have you tried Acq Inc: The C Team?
Unfunny and uninstering with an unbearable fanbase.
Most people complaining have never even finished a campaign, let alone written one as good as Balance was, and Balance was no masterpiece. Everyone seems to forget that the podcast is a show, and sometimes they get a little railroad-y because shows need things like payoff and buildup to be narritively satisfying.
No, I haven't.
Though after looking them up it looks interesting.
I might check them out later.
I liked the podcast, sadly their fans are the very worst kind of "people" on earth and insist on making the characters typical disgusting tumblr abortions. All of them are forced to be gay negroes with vitiligo and various other skin diseases.
It's really sad and absurd because Taako originated as a classic campy effeminate character, which these people seemingly could not understand. As if they had never before encountered the effeminate, soft-spoken caricature before and just took it at face value rather than as the joke it always was.
Everything made by the "fans" of the show tends to be their own revolting reimaginings of the characters to fit their own disgusting perversions and ultra-niche fetishes. It used to be you could just ignore it, but the McElroys were of course not immune to the decaying influence of the SJW and cultural regressives and have slowly succumbed to all the shit being pushed on them.
Going from making fun of campy gay shit to reluctantly embracing it, changing the race of established characters to pander and leading the plots to places which aren't the same bizarre 4th-wall breaking as they used to be, but rather clearly chosen simply to validate these deeply disturbed people who have co-opted the whole thing for their own sad, awful agenda.
All in all, the Adventure Zone is dead and not coming back. Fun while it lasted though.
Even as someone who doesn't like ugly Tumblr art, reading shit like this is so eye rolling.
Dude, the fans are sticking with it, sorry they offended you.
The McElroy fandom definitely has a problem with purity culture (apparently you can't talk about the Glass Shark bit at ALL in the official Facebook group) but I really don't think its made the brothers as miserable as you're implying. At most Justin probably has some minor regrets over flippantly naming his character after tacos.
You should be sorry. But better yet, you should put a gun to your skull and pull the trigger because enough is enough.
Enough is enough? In what way?
I guess being a snowflake is only okay when the incels do it.
Dude... You didn't have to write an essay about this.
You literally repeated the same opinion four times.
Just say I hate the fandom and move on.
You're not even contributing to the topic of the thread.
Why DID Clint improve so massively in Amnesty? Was it just performance anxiety?
And I thought I was being wierd for being annoyed they couldn't keep the Chalupa name.
You forgot some "yikes" and "no sweetie" in your post.
I thought Merle was fine in every way but gameplay in Balance! Every time he got a one on one conversation with a character, it was always just amazing. You really can tell he's the most outwardly social and talented with words.
Don’t like D&D Jargon? Get ready for entirely NEW jargon for D&D as an office comedy in adVenture Capitalism.
He’s not bogged down by D&D rules. I’ll say it again, PBtA and by association Monster of the Week gives the man and the whole family space to shine
Pietsch does a good job of drawing Taako super gay in literally every panel.
The comic design is good, people are just pissy because Justin said it was okay to picture Taako however you want.
The McElroys have always been super liberal.
I'm fine with fantasy characters being "fantasy black" I don't think it affects the character because I don't imagine the history of darkelves/gnomes/people going the exact same way as real black diaspora so it's not like it adds a bunch of random shit to a character.
I do mind making characters fat, because fatness definitely denotes all sorts of shit about personality, intelligence, and ability. Like making vain and proud people fat? Making geniuses fat? Making people who can run over two MPH fat? Very bad.
Not the user you were talking to, but your reliance on fake confusion and buzzwords is really shitting up your trashtalk game. Reddit did not prepare you for the level of discourse we try to maintain here at 4chins. Please leave or consider lurking moar.
Damn dude Chill it’s just a Podcast Lol.
This is a fanart collection maintained by the McElroys and they have almost exclusively white or light pastel Takkos.
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>getting this triggered by mentions of suicide
You should consider leaving. There are other websites that are more tailored to your specific needs.
"You should be sorry. But better yet, you should put a gun to your skull and pull the trigger because enough is enough." as a piece of prose is different and much more cringeworthy than the standard KYS.
It sounds like you try to talk like The Punisher all day.
Very embarrassing, post your duster.
wrong
Ok so the "dude CHill" response was because you were being critical of his prose, not because you were triggered at the mention of suicide.
Just as long as we're clear.
I'm also not the user you were talking to.
I'm a forth dude.
Post your fucking duster already.
Is it pleather or canvas?
I think they've hit their stride with Amnesty and have been doing some great scenes, shame it's ending relatively soon. The comedic tone of Balance helped them ease into the story more naturally, whereas Amnesty's more serious tone created some awkward initial episodes as they figured things out. Moving forward I hope they stick to a similar system, though I do think using DnD gives them more opportunities to be interactive even if they have to fudge the rules to make it work.
It started as decent improv and dipped hard into pandering and scripting. The comic is not a good adaptation and pretty much everything from the bank heist onwards is a waste to listen to even passively.
Remember that time Griffin immediately threw his co-worker under the bus to save face when the guy was just socially retarded?
Yeah, if he gets blacklisted that's his wife and child out of luck as well.
It's shitty but dissent in that industry will fuck you.
The best arcs come after that, though. Even in the same arc as the bank heist, you're claiming the race itself is bad? Not sure what you even got out of the show up to that point.
The comic doesn't work for me because while it's not 1:1 it still has shit like Magnus saying his emotional state and that's a turnoff for me
Improv comedy.
The town of Tom Bodett was the peak. The ratio of quality improv to slow, boring exposition and action became too much to be interesting anymore. If I want a mediocre RP, I can go do that with my friends.
Shit, I forgot about that time with Dracula.
Clint was wearing Weighted Armor. He's always been good giving off an air of "Look Ma, I'm playing an RPG" while having a deeper understanding of the plot and characterization alongside it. Starting from the top allowed him to really flex his chops rather than being more consistant with how he played Merle.
What was he supposed to do?
Dude turned out to be a thirsty weirdo and was made into a social pariah by his industry, kind of have to take a side at that point.
Travis is fucking funny, but Griffin is the BIGGEST basedboy I've ever seen on the internet. You should look up what he looks like
>Immediately jumps to the "there was no other way" position when the statement was about the method, not the action.
I don't begrudge anyone for cutting ties with people who can hurt their career.
I sure do judge people for the method and speed with which they throw old friends into oncoming traffic, though.
The story gets quite interesting down the line, though. They even managed to use a lot of the stuff they foreshadowed way at the very beginning. Did you force yourself to listen to the whole thing just to complain about it, or did you actually drop it in Petals to the Metal?
>I sure do judge people for the method and speed with which they throw old friends into oncoming traffic, though.
Nick was already playing in traffic, though. It's not like Griffin is the one who found out and told everyone was going on.
>Did you force yourself to listen to the whole thing just to complain about it
You know it was a weekly/monthly thing right? He could have realistically listened to it as it was coming out, because what's an hour every week, and at the end went "Didn't like it"
Hey, you rationalize it as much as you like. I told you how I feel about it. The way you deal with these things is the actual test of your character. You can't trust the kind of person who reacts that way.
>The story gets quite interesting down the line, though.
I don't agree. It was blasé. I wouldn't expect much better from your average RP, but the podcast got railroaded for the sake of it and the humor dried up. Not what I was looking for.
>They even managed to use a lot of the stuff they foreshadowed way at the very beginning.
Wow, that's pretty amazing. That thing that literally everyone who's half competent can do which is a common crutch for writers who wing it (retroactively pulling back from the old thing to make the new thing seem like it was in the works all along). Seriously some epic dank storytelling my bro.
Like, seriously. I said it was just mediocre. Not bad, just boring. And it's not what I was listening for when I started.
>Did you force yourself to listen to it or
I was listening to it because a friend recommended it and I enjoyed it. And around the time Griffin hard forced a loss in Petals to the Metal I realized I just wasn't enjoying it anymore, even though I was doing it as a passive thing after work. It was an annoyance rather than a source of consistent mild to good humor. I bothered to get through the rest because I was already listening to it and I hoped it would get better, but I ended up not having a good time. I don't listen to podcasts just to complain about them.
Like, seriously, chill. I was in it for the jokes and the jokes stopped being as frequent and weren't as funny.
Considering Nick admitted to it I think Griffin made the right call.
I'm not sure how many times I can say "I don't disagree with what he did, but the manner in which he did it."
Episodes were roughly an hour and a half long and it aired over the course of several years, that seems like a big commitment for something he doesn't enjoy.
Okay, okay. You've made your point.
Honestly an hour and a half is nothing for a weekly thing, if you watch them as they come out. People have spent over 70 hours watching Game of thrones because it came out over ~9 years
Plus if you have friends that listen to it, it's possible that you listen with them or to discuss it with them