>Protagonists are Sues
>villains are disposable with zero longevity
>side characters barely relevant past their obligatory character arcs
>no build towards anything, shit just happens for the sake of happening
>asspulls galore
Why does this shit get a pass above American capes? Is it because they don't shill current year political autism?
>protagonists are sues
That's the point of OPM
And yet it's more entertaining than most of American animated capeshit
Wait, you don't kill your villains?! You dare to call yourself an ally of justice.
>7 months for an arc that a DC writer could wrap up in 5 issues
>fun
>Yea Forums - capes
Japs only ever do capestuff as more generic shonenshit. They dont exactly understand anything outside of main characters fisting each other. Doesnt help that most of them only know about this kind of stuff from Marvel and its movies.
Boku no Hero is fundamentally terrible and One Punch gets boring after a few chapters, but they still manage to capture the fun in capes that Americanshit fails so hard to do so.
>villains are disposable with zero longevity
What are you talking about? The League of Villains has thicker plot armour than the heroes of the story.
This is also a point against them. Stories like MHA not only dont do anything with their absurdly large cast sizes, they have this incessant need to start up year long tournament arcs for literally no reason, and they're almost universally bland as shit, if not outright terrible.
Maybe they'd be better if these writers would actually USE their cast instead of using polls to determine which set of main characters should start shoving their fists into the other's balls that day.
You mean the hero vs hero of marvel and the over the top high powerlevels of DC? user, look in a mirror. If you want good, coherent narratives, go to Yea Forums.
And then reckon and reboot 1 year later.
>t. Yea Forumsfag
Your shithole is literally just Yea Forums but with a literature spin. Fuck off.
Yea Forums is more Tsudere towards Yea Forums than Yea Forums ever was.
Amerishits need to stop doing capeshit
>Protagonists are sues
>villains are repetitive but amount to nothing
>side characters are numerous to the point of being irrelevant, many don't even get character arcs
>every arc ends with multiversal collapse and reboots
>asspulls galore
Why does this shit get a pass above Japanese anime? Is it because OP's a fucking faggot and doesn't realize jap capshit is for children?
>200 filler episodes about dudes trying to take a shit
>entertaining
This why I stick to old school Kamen Rider.
so. much. this. How can Japs even compete?
Anything toku is perfectly enjoyable, because they don't waste the audiences time telling you how hard X character is straining to restrain his "UBERHAX GODPOWERS" from taking everyone else out.
>an arc that a DC writer could wrap up in 5 issues
You know Bendis is a DC writer now right?
>Protagonists are Sues
At least with OPM it's the entire point of the series and with the Shonen kid it's par for the course.
I practically retch when I see dumb bullshit involving Batman with cosmic armor or some other dumb horseshit batwank.
Also being overpowered doesn't make you a sue, Mary Sue is more a description of how the world around the character reacts to them more than anything else. Saitama especially is treated with little respect due to his lackadaisical approach to heroism and his lack of seniority in a system that clearly values just that, and Saitama himself is mostly dissatisfied with his life, in part because of his immense strength, so I wouldn't really consider him a Mary Sue. He's not an especially deep character, either, but Mary Sue implies something else entirely.
Hit a nerve eh? Comics levels of bullshit just as bad with the over the top feats. To deny this would be foolish. Get off your high horse, your hands and feet are muddy too!
And he's rightly reviled instead of treated like a walking god like many shonen writers are. Your point?
Yeah yeah. Whatever, Yea Forumsfags.
OPM is a critique on shounen heroes, and by extension, any hero who obtain absurd amounts of power and deflate struggle and conflict by merely existing.
MHA is similar, but it focuses more on how morality has many shades of grey, and people with the same goals can have vastly different means and procedures for achieving them.
If anything, their metacritiques on comics as a whole, not just with capeshit. Which is ironic: Japan is far more self-aware of how shallow its comics are, but Americans still can't nail self-satire because House Mouse would kill Pluto and make it canon before it greenlit a project that poked fun at itself.
I like MHA more than X-Men. Fucking fight me
Good post.
>Why does this shit get a pass above American capes?
Why the fuck do you think?
>Ultra cheap or free, depending if you buy or pirate
>One long narrative by same author
>No changing artists twice a year
>No ten thousand year history for characters that has been retconned 40 times by competing writers
>Never have to buy another series to get a complete picture
It has nothing to do with the stories themselves, it's to do with the fact JP capeshit is super accessible and consistent. They could put out literal shit and people would still like it because it's better than DC and Marvel's luxury Shit Surprise.
To be fair, Yea Forums literally just Yea Forums, crying about Yea Forums and Stonetoss derails.
They're usually done by one person (two for OPM). It helps when you don't have different teams steering the ship all willy nilly. Also western capeshit has been in the zeitgeist for too long so everyone is burned out on it.
>To be fair, Yea Forums literally just Yea Forums, crying about Yea Forums and Stonetoss derails.
Rather accurate as of late. Yea Forums wasn't always like this.
I'm pretty sure the Stonetoss thing is literally just 1-3 people shitstirring. Hopefully they'll get bored eventually.
The Yea Forums on the other hand are more the kinda stuff you'd need a new board rule to stop.
>7 months for an arc that a DC writer could wrap up in 5 issues
Tell me. How long has Doomsday Clock been running for?
Maybe you should read/watch good series instead of whatever the fuck you're watching.
Easy. Just ban live action discussions and keep it to Yea Forums. Too bad Yea Forums is in a content drought fucking constantly.
>The League of Villains has thicker plot armour than the heroes of the story.
>He hasn't been keeping up
Tom King is telling a 30 issue story in 73 and counting
why is it every time the main character in a show like my hero academia or any other battle anime retards cry about asspulls
>A pass
OPM and Boku are pass their peak while comic sales are on an uptick from last year.
>because they don't waste the audiences time telling you how hard X character is straining to restrain his "UBERHAX GODPOWERS" from taking everyone else out.
That was literally the fucking plot of Decade and Wizard
Toga's face is probably scarred for life but will find it beautiful, and Twice is now broken as shit. As for Shiggy there, I bet the doctor will fix that easy. After all, he did wonders for AFO
To be fair MHA does have some pretty fucking stupid asspulls.
A slower board is fine, not even board needs to fly fast.
>Easy. Just ban live action discussions and keep it to Yea Forums.
This is the problem. We barely have mods. They selectively enforce the rules they do follow and are absent the rest of the time.
Hell, this thread probably shouldn't exist, but here it is.
The two you posted aren't really Sues though.
OPM is seen as an idiot and useless by the majority of the world. Plus he doesn't really care about anything since he is too powerful thus he is often wrong about situations.
Deku's power comes with a major drawback of breaking his body like Kaio Ken these days. And he has on several occasions caused more shit than helped due to his optimism. This being said I prefer Western comics to Manga it is just that western comics have so much shit you have to wade through to find a gem.
Shigaraki getting crippled is hilarious.
The simple fact is that Yea Forums is one of the most autistic boards on this site and they hate MHA and OPM on principle regardless of what they do. It's mainstream anime, and by default they will find any and every excuse to shit all over it.
Compared to a lot of anime it's actually rather tame
Speaking of Japanese Capeshit, boy do I wish Tiger and Bunny got an extension or some shit. I wish the MC had a sue level power up, tired of the plot shitting on my man Kotetsu.
>they have this incessant need to start up year long tournament arcs for literally no reason
It wasn't even a fucking tournament arc it was a fucking practice exercise because the series is about students training to become heroes hence the title.
>Maybe they'd be better if these writers would actually USE their cast instead of using polls to determine which set of main characters should start shoving their fists into the other's balls that day.
Two of the most popular characters in the series set out of the story for an entire year and now we're focusing on the villains.
>Compared to a lot of anime it's actually rather tame
Like the main character getting fucking seven new powers that no other person that had OfA unlocked?
Not him, but I remember some bullshit asspulls. But pretty much all of Arachnid was asspull after asspull.
Currently, me too
The only flaw is the female characters are kind of Sakuras
>seven
Oh look a retard
The doujins are worth it at least.
Hey thanks for clarifying you're a speed reader. OFA's primary ability is stockpiling power, and it doesn't work like other quirks given it's origin. It took 9 generations to evolve and reach that point. So no, it's not an asspull as to why Deku could use it and All Might couldn't
You mean the powers they had no idea about and didn't have access to specifically because OfA hasn't grown enough to accommodate them?
I'm somewhat out of the loop about recent developments in the story, but even I know this shit.
How do his powers work?
what happened did he beat a bad guy you liked or something
You mean shit that MANY people predicted years ago that would happened after All Might gave the story on OfA?
how do you even get something like that
>Story revealed years ago that AfO created OfA
>OfA is a quirk that stockpiles power
>Its transferred from person to person for years mostly quirk users until All Might
>Deku gets it and notices strange occurances that didn't happen with All Might
>its revealed that within that stockpile is the other users quirks
>asspull.
I'll never get why so many people were angry with that reveal.
One For All, the quirk that gets passed down, stores energy. Each time it's passed it increases exponentially, and as a side effect it enhances the quirk of the person it's given to. All Might never had a quirk, so OFA simply supercharged his body. When it finally was passed to Deku, it basically peaked and gave him access/memories of the genetics of his predecessors.
Think Ultra Boy from LOH
So Superman is a Gary Stu?
Because Yea Forums is autistic and hates MHA for merely existing because it's mainstream
So identical to western comics but the villains aren't as good?
I actually liked the theme of his power getting a giant boost at the cost of time. I just wished they kept the power boost and then limit his time to 1 minute. Would make him interesting and different enough from Bunny while still being the same.
Basically Eastern villains tend to be didnuffins or omniscient for the sake of it,
And look how much Wizard is loved. OH WAIT.
But seriously though, people don't like those two stories because they're messes, and ironically enough, those two were more enjoyable OUTSIDE of their respective shows.
Yea Forums hates everything for merely existing. Their idea of a "perfect anime/manga" is one that exists only in their heads.
Shut the fuck up, BNHA is genuinely one of the best things that happened to capeshit in the last decade.
Good bait
Literally nothing of what you said is remotely true. If you're going to troll you could try harder at least.
You know at least people gave a shit about Wizard cant say the same for Drive or the other recent offerings since nobody seems to give a shit about any of the newer installments after Gaim.
All they want is waifu threads, even more than Yea Forums
It's arguably better than X-Men
>no build towards anything, shit just happens for the sake of happening
BNHA is the definition of constant build up, and as much as I like it, that irks me sometimes.
I blame the banishment of Sad Panda threads.
It just made everyone even more horny.
What is All for One’s plan?
They really are
Truly? Yet to be revealed. However right now his grooming of Shigaraki seems to still be a thing, even with being incarcerated in Tartarus Prison. The Nomu Doctor has promised to hand over ALL of AFO's resources if Shiggy can defeat Gigantomachia
Agreed.
> One Punch Man
Powerlevels are stupid, and the traditional shonen character that trains to get harder specifically because they like fighting is stupid too. There needs to be more to life than just winning fights.
> Mob Psycho (less directly capeshit inspired, but with a message that applies equally well to capeshit)
Defining yourself by your powers, or thinking that you are somehow better than others just because you can beat them up, is literally how a 12 year old thinks and any adult character with that sort of mentality is fucking embarrassing manchild. Being able to trash shit, with your mind or otherwise, doesn't make you good at anything else and isn't going to help you do any of the things in life that actually matter.
> MHA
Collectivism is bullshit, because all people are not created equal. We are not the same, and any society that treats us as interchangeable cogs in a machine is wrong and will inevitably result in systemic injustice aimed at anyone that doesn't fit the mold.
Work for what you want under your own power, using everything that makes you special to achieve your goals. You are going to be in competition with a bunch of other people that want the same thing that you want, though they might not always want it for the same reason that you do.
That last one doesn't matter very much to us, because we are not a collectivist society. But Japan is, and their media is usually more supportive of it. Its kind of surprising that, despite how much people call MHA the new Naruto, it takes very much the opposite stance to Naruto's core themes of relying on your friends to succeed. In Naruto, you have to work together to get strong. In MHA, the characters aim to be stronger individually because they want to have the power to help others. Thats an important difference.