Do Western comics have any two-page spreads like this? No dialogue, no narrative captions, no sound effects...

Yes and no. It's getting chapters, but they're slow.

It's been pretty bad for a while now.

Berserk's always on hiatus. It's like how winter's always coming.

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who’s the artist?

Yes I’ve seen plenty of comics that had two page spread’s that was nothing but posing in action scene or whatever. No I’m not going to go look for any examples

BestAlero I believe.

Goddamn it Casca just got UNVEGETABLED. She’s not a fucking potato anymore. And then we cut to four fucking chapters over the span of a year about Griffith

Aaaaa please tell me what happens to Casca please

That's all I want. Even if the series as a whole never goddamn ends I just want to see old Casca again.

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Off the top of my head:

- Crossed vol 1 of all things had one that surprisingly had no gore or violence of any kind.
- Unless you count the title texts, Nextwave had six whole spread of that in one issue.
- Alan Moore and Jim Baikie's Skizz has an absolutely beautiful one near the last chapter that deserves to be seen unspoiled.
- Speaking of Moore, there's also the opening pages of Watchmen 12 and the London double-spread of Miracleman, although that last one does have one caption.
- While it's not exactly what you're looking for, I can definitely recommend Geoff Darrow's Shaolin Cowboy: The Shemp Buffet. It's a largely silent action scene stretched over four issues that's absolutely godlike.
- And if you're looking for more comics where the art is the only thing that conveys the story, check out Larry Hama's GI Joe 21 and Marvel's 'Nuff Said specials.

sure do

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Oh you have no idea, manga boi.

crazy in hindsight how veidt basically deliberately got that woman killed

Griffith is a loser and Guts is gay for him

she is gone forever. She is an eternally PTSDd vegetard.

he deliberately got a lot of people killed

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I don't think he really cared about that when he was about to nuke half of New York.

Do webcomics count?
Minna likes big double spreads for SSSS's print releases

The boat is a state of mind.

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Since marvel and dc releases so much comics, why don't they just combine those titles into one telephone directory thick comic magazines like Japan does.

Sure it will kill colorists jobs. But colors is irrelevant to superhero comics anyway. Just add color for tome releases

>lose color
Fuck you.

It looks nice. Where is it from?

What are you talking about, she got un retarded 6 months ago.

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ayy

American comics cost more for less pages so people feel ripped off if they don't get story

Thank you for posting this. One of the all-time great double splashes. Jealous of the guy who owns this

Berserk hasn't been good since the Golden age.

looks like Hard Boiled

Boy where have you been

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That lasted like three minutes though.

Uh huh. I am years behind and I clearly haven't missed a thing. Bloody Berserk.
I'll check back next decade.

Someone name a single manga chapter that lives up to Fearful Symmetry

And it was the greatest three minutes in the history of manga

Wonderful comic

Honestly wish that there was a little more time spent just taking in Casca's reaction to slowly waking up again and realizing where she was. You'd think that she'd be a bit dazed trying to piece together so many things all at once after so long.

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Most manga are just picture books, they haven't really developed into their own distinct medium like comics have.

You

I think you can find the same problem with a lot of graphic novels that also read like picture books, but Japanese creators just don't see the potential in anything that isn't art or storytelling.
Good Western comic artists' use of paneling and other unique aspects of the medium just don't have parallels in Japan.

>6 months ago.
user, that happened last year.

it's called a drawing

I like it better this way. Having her be somewhat aware of what happened and the people who cared for her was beautiful. We spent over 20 years cooking this potato, no need to drag it out.

Only 2 pages!? That's baby-shit!

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I'm gonna one-up myself on this one, check out this 6 PAGE FOLD-OUT!

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>Are there any spreads with no text
>Posts spreads with text
You're a goon.

There are graphic novels with no text, dumb shit

Quality bait, have a You, my dude

It has text but Jim Steranko did a book that was entirely made of double page spreads, which are practically his forte.
Who cares, its cool art.

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Jack Kirby did a lot of spreads but I don't know if he ever did any without text

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Based illiterate user doubling down on his retardation. American, right?

And people make fun of The Heart...

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What comic is this?

Akiko by Mark Crilley

>Who cares
It was literally the only requisite and the point of the topic.

How about you give an example Mr. Fancy Pants.

Here.Stay on topic, idiot. And don't get sassy.

>last year

What the fuck man, where did the time go.

That is Togashi for you.

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There's no excuse for this shit.

Didn't the final issue of Ultimates 2 have like a 6 page-spread of the Ultimates and Asgardians fighting monsters?

>niggastream

I'm going to have to agree with this. This is what happens with long running series. The kind of story that the author wants to tell change partway through.

>MUH GOLDEN AGE
>Implying Conviction wasn't GOAT

Faggots, the both of you. Probably gonna try and sell me that Griffith didn't do anything wrong either.

>. I don't think they can get away with "wasting" two whole pages in the west.

have you ever read anything other than capeshit? fucks sake

Even cape shit will waste a full page on a character walking across a room

It happens

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Actually, I vaguely recall this one having some narration boxes in the comic

Lost Children is the only of part of Conviction that is better than the Golden Age desu.

Golden Age is overrated fluff held up by anime only fags

Absolutely, it shouldn't be even a question assuming you have read comics. Jrjr before the accident is genuinely an underrated artist, I still think he gets too much shit things considered, but shift in his style does deserve some criticism. His work on Daredevil throughout is most excellent.

One of the fairly interesting things that comics I think did that I have never ever seen manga try to do was that in issue 99 of Invincible all pages of the issue were a single panel. It created some problems, like some pages needed to be filled out with a lot of dialogue that it started to feel like Snyder's run on Batman, but not as bad as Hunter x Hunter today.

But I thought that was bold and it worked for me, Ryan Ottley is a master of dynamic action. It was a Summer blockbuster of comics.

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its called a splash page weeb
Yea Forums

Splash page can refer to a drawing that takes up a single page too though.

Personally I prefer splash pages.

You are retarded.

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Why not just write a novel with illustrations?

If it wasn't for Stan, he probably would have done some without text.

This. Lost Children was Berserk's peak. It all went downhill from there.

Chapter 48 of Fire Punch

This page has been memed almost as much as O MY RUBBER NEN.

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>Jrjr before the accident
?

Not even close. That page gets posted every once in a while when someone is making fun of huntards, but every single time without failure, when a character gets a powerup or an asspull happens there is always at least one person posting O MY BLANK BLANK.

Lost Children felt completely unnecessary, even as I was reading it the first time. It was as though Miura was reintroducing modern day Guts after the Golden Age, like we hadn't read the start of the fucking manga.

Ego.
Better question is why does he get an artist to do the heavy lifting? Someone that could reign him in and say "No, we don't need 300 words to explain something that can be done in 40"

doesn't* Fuck...

The moment that sold me on the series. Even got Mark Waid to sign this specific page on my hardback cover of the book.

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I love me a artistic dialogue free spread.
Though I often feel I move on from it too fast since there's no dialogue to slow me down.
Sometimes have instances where I backtrack my reading to "make sure I appreciate the art in the moment".

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You haven't quite figured out the concept of a self-contained story, within an over-arching narrative, have you?

Best page in manga history

I bet on the bigger buy with a bigger sword. How did he lose the first fight anyway.

they tried and it failed. That format was used in both America and Europe previously, and Americans can't live without their floppies and Euros would just wait until the actual hardcover book was released, instead of relying on the anthological magazine. The thing is manga in Japan is still seen as something disposable even if it's treated as tourist bait by the authorities (some mangaka are very angry about this), and most people just read the mag in the subway on their way to work or something like that.

Hitman has the single most effective example of this in comics history, western or otherwise.

It's a self-contained story that adds nothing to the overarching narrative. Every other arc served a purpose, either to introduce characters, build the world, or move Guts' story along.
The Lost Children arc is about Guts being a cunt to keeps others from getting caught up in his cursed shit, and the world of Berserk being a fantastically shitty place to inhabit. It's literally the first arc all over again, but there is no mystery and the audience learns nothing.

Spring Flower was far better, not only because we're learning more about Guts' backstory and his past interactions with spirits, but because it was three chapters long.

To be fair, Berserk had been going on for ten years when Lost Children started. Also it can be seen as Miura's reaction to the fact that Berserk actually lost a decent chunk of its readership after the Eclipse because it was something bad happening to the heroes and japanese audiences don't want that.

I don't think you understand how deep manga is ingrained into japanese culture.

I thought it failed because the western comic industry tanked due to lack of variety

Saying that the lost children arc is the same as the black swordsman arc shows that you don't understand either of them, especially their themes
If you're that solely interested in the lore, just read the wiki from now on. It'd save you some time.

>"manga is so much better because its longer and bigger"!
>3-4 panels a page plus a ton of spreads for every moment that isn't neutral dialog

The Sandman series is full of breathtaking spreads like this, especially Overture.

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the line "There is no paradise to escape to" really stuck with me

I am retarded, I thought Jrjr's right wrist injury was somewhere in the 90's, but he had it since he was 8. So, really, I don't know what caused shift in his art style to be so stylized, in his Daredevil days he was way more subdued.

Pic related is how he holds his equipment to draw usually. You can watch more of that here.

youtube.com/watch?v=zbJvHDdMb-8

on a side note, John Romita Jr. is actually older than Frank Miller

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to be fair that's how many artists hold their pencils/brushes/whatever while drawing or painting, it's a control thing

I think this thread has an interesting line of thought about what counts as content in comics in the east and west, and what we value as readers. It seems in American comics reading there's not as much focus on the art. A comic is valuable if it has a lot of words telling the story

yes you retarded capeshitter