Legacy Numbering

So about Legacy Numbering, is it actually a good idea? It seems like kind of a pointless compromise. It's nice to be able to keep track of how many issues there actually are but the Legacy number is just going to take over again for a while when the next round 100th issue comes along, you might as well switch back permanently.

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It is useful to mark the "jumping point" without losing the count of the actual issues.
Everyone should do it honestly.

Much better than post Onslaught when Marvel stopped numbering their issues altogether. Those were dark days for a proto-internet world.

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>It seems like kind of a pointless compromise
Not when you can sell a new #1 every couple of years.
But being fair it helps to keep track of different runs.

I think the issue is that companies are still under the delusion that repeated relaunches help when they actually do more harm in the long-term (too many Marvel titles relaunched multiple times in the 2010's to the point where sales fell during late 2015).

It was tolerable back in the 90's and early 00's when relaunching wasn't recurring. Now it's become annoying as hell to try to look for books.

The way Marvel did it was super weird, I liked the way DC did it more where it was just the two big ones and only counted the actual series of Action and Tec

>thinks 'tec and AC never relaunched

So easy to spot rebirth fags.

Action and Tec did relaunch in 2011, but I think that was a fucking stupid mistake.

So the upcoming TMNT #100 should instead be labeled #230?

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My only problem with legacy numbering is WHICH of the issues are counted into that shit

I'm not a long-time comic collector/reader so it doesn't effect me as much, but it's great because I can just jump on a """#1""" of a new run without feel like I missed out on other stories.

Yeah, but then once you start reading long enough you'll notice how short-sighted it becomes.

It was good, but Marvel uses them like DC's old Triangle numbers, and ropes unrelated miniseries into the legacy numbers to keep track of continuity

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That’s not what I said though, Action was just Legacy of Action and Tec was legacy of Tec. With marvel though it’s multiple different series for the legacy numbers

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And for those people, you have the legacy numbers. That's the whole point. Volume numbers for new readers, legacy numbers for old readers.

It is. instead of there being 30 different hulk #14s there is a universal number that can be assigned to each of the.

Also this.

I agree.

No because IDWs TMNT is separate from all books before it.

All of those except the first 59 issues of Tales to Astonish and Totally Awesome Hulk should count. They're the same book, more or less.

Agreed.

As an aside, it's kind of annoying that Marvel's official site doesn't apply the legacy numbering to their database, instead separating different runs by the year they debuted.

Not him but the fact that they did count those makes it all completely worthless. There were a lot of weird choices included in the Marvel Legacy numbering that make the entire thing dishonest and the numbers meaningless. The recent Uncanny X-Men numbering was done right though, just UXM and not including stuff like Gold in there. That’s also how DC resorted the numbering of Action and Tec as that user said which is fine.

Totally should count too, the sum is about the title, not the character. And for all intent and purpose, TAH was the Hulk book for a while.

That’s just ridiculous, it’s not about brand or Character, it’s about the Title Incredible Hulk should only be counted for Incredible Hulk and Totally Awesome Hulk is not that

If we're using that logic you might as well include the run of Incredible Hurcules, but that doesn't seem right either.

It would be cool if that was something they always did. Starting now leads to several years of confusion.

That's like asking Amazing Fantasy #15 to not be considered as the first issue for SM.

But they don't count it for ASM's legacy numbering.

I haven’t read Marvel in like 3 years and this seems like a great idea.

It's just so they can inflate the price when a retarded anniversary number comes up.

I mean it’s not, it’s his first appearance but it’s not the first spider man series issue. They are two widely separate things

I mean it was just a retitling and it still continued the Incredible Hulk numbering so I could see that getting a pass out all of them

Superior spiderman is counted in the amazing numbering but is also counted in its own book. Literally 160 issues of Miles run has nothing to do with him and he was never mentioned or even thought of by the writer and 200 issues of his don’t even count in canon most of the legacy numbering is bullshit. Though in two months carol will have the largest amount of single issues held by a female marvel hero, Mayday is the current record holder at 141 though she still is the only marvel woman hero to have a book hit 100 in a single run, though we’ll see if moon girl has legs

>"jumping point"
Except that there is no such thing as a good jumping on point and they should stop even trying to pretend that you can just start 800+ issues into a story and not be lost.

But user, this way Marvel can make money on milestone issues while still being able to do a new #1 every year. Don't you want that?

I disagree -- there's still going to be confusion about issues prior to when Legacy Numbering was added. Mainly the issues beforehand not having the same numbering. Now you've got #824. You're just as in the dark as you had no clue the other 823 existed. And what goes towards the issue count? Spin-offs? One-shots? Free Comic Book Day handouts? If I had #944 of Spider-Man, is that collectively all of Amazing, or should I be counting Spectacular and Web of?

We'd be better off keeping the runs categorized by title and volumes. There's a lot less ambiguity because they've been ordered that way since the beginning. A simple one-page list containing the start and end number of each volume at the back of every floppy would do wonders.

it's annoying how they cheat with them for every title, except X-Men

spoiler: she doesn't have legs

I mean if you are a retard who can't even understand capeshit there is nothing anyone can do for you.

Judging from the sales on relaunched Marvel titles post-Secret Wars all the way to Legacy, I don't think anyone wanted it.

this one is extremely infuriating. I mean, fuck off marvel, you will never have your own batman

I dunno she’s hitting 50 issues so that’ll put her above carol for a single run, I don’t think her floppies sell well but she supposedly does good in trades

At least Batman’s spinoffs have different names, sure he has a few titles but he has night wing, red hood, robin, batgirl and more spider-man literally just has two other spidermen that have nothing to do with him or his stories

>I dunno she’s hitting 50 issues so that’ll put her above carol for a single run, I don’t think her floppies sell well but she supposedly does good in trades
dude, the book sells 4k per month. it's only published for scholastic, and because of some cartoon that is like alraedy 2 years in development. it doesn't have any legs, and considering that it was part of the inhumans launch, once it's gone, nobody will ever discuss it again