DC Replacing All Imprints With Age Labeling System - Goodbye VERTIGO, ZOOM, INK

>DC plans to elminate it's various publishing imprints in January 2020 in favor of new age-specific labels across the DC publishing line. The three age labels are DC Kids, DC, and DC Black Label. The storied Vertigo line, which was DC's first seperate imprint when launched in 1993, will be "sunsetted" (DC's term) by the end of the year, with no new titles expected to be announced in the interim.

>"What we’ve done here is apply an ages and stages organizing philosophy that will strengthen what we’re already doing well, whether that is our move into the young adult and middle grade audience or our long track record of success with creator-driven pop-up lines," said DC's Chief Creative Officer/co-publisher Jim Lee.

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>DC Kids is aimed at readers 8 to 12, and would seemingly incorporate the DC Zoom and DC Ink titles, as well as some cartoon-based titles such as the long-running Looney Tunes title.


>"That kind of material is now mainstream across all genres, so we thought it was the right time to bring greater clarity to the DC brand and reinforce our commitment to storytelling for all of our fans in every age group," said co-publisher Dan DiDio. "This new system will replace the age ratings we currently use on our material."

>"That kind of material is now mainstream across all genres, so we thought it was the right time to bring greater clarity to the DC brand and reinforce our commitment to storytelling for all of our fans in every age group," said co-publisher Dan DiDio. "This new system will replace the age ratings we currently use on our material."

>The central DC age label would be intended for those aged 13 and up, and largely continue the core DC superhero titles DC is known for.

>DC Black Label will continue, but as an age-label as opposed to an imprint, and would contain its more mature material for readers 17 and older. Any already announced Black Label titles would presumably continue under his label, as reprints of older work already announced to be added in such as Watchmen, The Dark Knight Returns, Kingdom Come, and All-Star Superman.

>The "pop-ups" such as Young Animal, Sandman Universe, Wonder Comics, WildStorm, Jinxworld, and Milestone will continue, but it is unclear what age-label they - or the long-running MAD Magazine - would fall under or the nomenclature of the "pop-ups" themselves.

>"We’re returning to a singular presentation of the DC brand that was present throughout most of our history until 1993 when we launched Vertigo to provide an outlet for edgier material," DiDio said.

>Lee said that DC plans to continue publishing creator-owned and co-owned projects, and they would now be classified by one of DC's three age labels as opposed to a specific imprint.

>"We will also continue to publish creator-owned projects, and will evaluate and assign to the appropriate label to help our fans find the best books for their interests. These new labels not only bring greater consistency and focus to our characters, but they also open up a wealth of new opportunities for the talent working on our books.”

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Kind of sad we're losing the cool names for the individual imprints like Young Animal, Zoom and Ink. But this is just a streamlining of branding, so okay I guess.

>DC Black Label will continue, but as an age-label as opposed to an imprint, and would contain its more mature material for readers 17 and older. Any already announced Black Label titles would presumably continue under his label, as reprints of older work already announced to be added in such as Watchmen, The Dark Knight Returns, Kingdom Come, and All-Star Superman.
What separates stuffs like Kingdom Come from stuffs like Heroes in Crisis? It's the same kind of stupid edge after all.

Makes sense after BatDick, but I hope they get to at least keep the same content

>elminate it's
Modern journalism, everyone.

Vertigo is a shell of its former self anyway.

End of an era but here's hoping Black Label is taking on the Vertigo stuff.

will they still censor batman's dick

Makes sense I suppose. But I'm dreading all probable reprints of All-Star Superman, Watchmen, etc..

If they do away with the Vertigo label, won't it just confuse normies buying "DC" comics that have nothing to do with the DC universe?

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Vertigo hasn't been the same since Berger left, still sad to see it go.

Maybe they'll keep the name for the old collections, otherwise they'll just slap the black label on it.

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Good then maybe people won't cry over Batman's manhood

Black Label is a Batman and Batman adjacent banner for their comics, don’t expect anything else to be considered for another black label title

I'm just picturing someone picking up "DC's Preacher" and wondering where the capes are.

Superman Year One is Black Label, idiot.

>won't it just confuse normies buying "DC" comics that have nothing to do with the DC universe?
Yes it will. New printings, like Transmetropolition Book One, have the "DC VERTIGO" logo in the OP on the spine

works wonder for manga, so why not. the problem is losing the iconic names that could have been repurposed too.

Rip in piece Vertigo, lots of good times reading those books. Looking at my shelf it's 50-60% Vertigo titles.

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I know i lot of normies that read Vertigo comics and think it's from another publisher, and other edglords that will read Vertigo comics, but hate DC comics.

DC is dumb as fuck to ignore these people. Not to mention the really dumb people that think that everything with DC on it takes place in the DC Universe.

The key there is the big VERTIGO name, that is a big brand.

>Not to mention the really dumb people that think that everything with DC on it takes place in the DC Universe.
and the other side of the coin, the people who don't realize that Swamp Thing, Sandman, and Morrison's Animal Man/Doom Patrol, and Hellblazer DID take place in the DC Universe at the time of publishing but were later exiled via editorial mandate

But will the main DC line get a reboot/line wife relaunch in 2020 to go along with it? People have long been speculating that’s when it would happen again before this was announced.

Black Label is such a generic label, that just translate to "ADULT". People will think, rightly so, that these comics are for Batman or Superman tales that have titties and pussies on display, which... admitly was the entire point of the label at the start. Hence the batdick.

Dan Didio and Jim Lee, not to mention Bob Harras are still holding the power. Do you think they'd reboot their own reboot? They're very much proud of it.

>was DC's first seperate imprint when launched in 1993, will be "sunsetted" (DC's term)
No one remembers Piranha Press.
But this does explain why Safe Sex, a book announced as part of the Vertigo relaunch, was just solicited under Image

I get these took place in previous universes rather than the current one, but are they really not considered canon anymore? The Endless don't exist in the DC Rebirth universe?

Didn't they JUST launch Zoom and Ink?

They were exiled around 2005. Dan Didio did interview after interview about how Vertigo wasn't part of the 52 new universes from Infinite Crisis.
Then in 2010 Didio proudly announced that an issue of Action Comics would be the DCU Debut of Death of the Endless, despite Sandman being in the DCU at the start.
Then in 2011 Flashpoint "Merged The Universes" and the Vertigo DC properties were "officially" in the DCU again.

The guy who set that up was fired by the new boss Pam Lifford last December. That should have been a sign that the line was already being interfered with.
He was fired before a single OGN released

>The Endless don't exist in the DC Rebirth universe?
Did you not read Metal? Daniel showed up there.

Young Animal is keeping it's name

So what happened to all the DCucks who swore up and down that Rich was full of shit a d Vertigo wasn't going anywhere?

find them. The thread on here was full of people talking about how Vertigo has been shit for a decade

Superman is Batman adjacent moron, at this point he’s pretty much just supporting cast in Batman Comics universe

Event Leviathan proves it.

I want to know what project Lemire is doing with a "DC artist well known for the character from 30 years ago"

They should really make a label for at least the creator owned stuff.

This is going to backfire hard on DC, they already have a massive continuity problem which is turning readers away but they want to compound this by shoving multiple versions of characters all under one vague umbrella

This also raises the question about what happens with other creator-owned work from Vertigo.

Hell yeah, Jim Balant Catwoman comin back

>Vertigo hires Zoe Quinn
>Vertigo gets cancelled
lmao

My guess is something with Ordway (Supes, Captain Marvel), or Grell (Warlord, Green Arrow)

>Vertigo relaunch failed so hard they killed the entire imprint and even the concept of it

Man, that went down in flames

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Ain't it Inferior Five?

Suck it, Andy Khouri!

>DC Black Label
>17 and older
>still can't show batwang

>as reprints of older work already announced to be added in such as Watchmen, The Dark Knight Returns, Kingdom Come, and All-Star Superman.
ah because they we always need more of those

It will. Snyder let it slip that American Vampire cycle 3 would be a black label book

We already knew about that one. Lemire said it's an unannounced Black Label title.
The creator owned stuff that is out of print likely has already reverted back to the creators. There is much, much less fully creator owned stuff than you would think. Reading the legal at the bottom of issues, many times the copyright is owned by the writer/artist, and characters are trademarked by Vertigo/DC.
Years ago Nancy Collins was asked if she could continue her Dhampire IP, but she said that she would have to buy out DC's stake in the IP to continue (they paid for 70 pages of expensive painted art for it).

Ugly

>>The central DC age label would be intended for those aged 13 and up, and largely continue the core DC superhero titles DC is known for.
well that is pointless since DC has already started censoring re-releases of older comics which got a teen rating in the first place

Black Label has gone through three different identities in its already short lifespan;

>initially an imprint for new, mostly mature-audience and non-canon works
>actually fuck it let's just use it as a banner for reprints and Batman shit
>wait nah let's just use it exclusively for all our mature-audience books again

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>Kingdom Come, and All-Star Superman.
>17 and older
the fuck? what´s so problematic about those stories that a teenager should not read them?

Right? What set them apart from stuffs like Tom King's books and other events filled with death?

as somebody who bought sandman, watchmen, northlanders and v for vendetta via vertigo as graphic novels I won´t really miss them. once comics went full sjw their quality was so terrible that it didn´t justify the title "novel"

I hate that they didn't ask Elaine Lee to write more Vamps

if anything I would be more worried about my child reading King stuff and developing suicidal thoughts or self esteem issues just like the author

I understand watchmen since that features rap, can´t remember if joker rapes Selina in dark knight however.
I guess it kinda gets a bit brutal when bruce starts beating up superman, but other then that I also don´t understand why those should be rated 17+

>Milestone will continue
They mentioned Milestone, they haven’t talked about it in a long time. Is there any news about it ?

>outlet for edgier material,
is feminist crap like Hex Wives considered edgy?
the panel about the white man just loving this obese fat woman who hates men was more comedic then anything

unironically get woke go broke

what assholes would hire zoe quinn
it was polluted by nepotism and exclusivism like a cult.

you know dc wouldn´t have to cut all those costs if they returned to making comics for normal heterosexul white men again

Just constant legal battles between the other founders and MacDuffie's widow

I hate all that Easy E too, my annonner.

Based DC getting summer started right by getting everyone to hate them

This fucking hurts to hear and realize.

>announce a complete collectiom last friday
>vertigo is canned and the reprint is cancelled the following friday

comics are fine comics are fine comics are fine comics are fine comics are fine

You should have realized it when Batman suddenly started to get top billing over Superman.

Cringe

Well than relaunch. They did it with Rebirth even if they went back to the same old crap a year and a half later. They might want to do it again to get rid of all of John’s now ignored stuff.

comics sell well comics sell well comics sell well comics sell well

>elminate
First fucking sentence.

The same white men that think comic books are for kids?. Anime had gore and porn from it's first days on the west, DC had Silve Age bullshit. Don't matter how much heterosexual male pandering they add everyobe is going to complain and boycott the company. It's like the stupid controversy of the new COD being too violent, it's players were mostly kids and now everybody thinks it's a kids game.

but comic books are for kids just like video games are

Then just return to the Silver Age of comics.

That ruined Swamp Thing for me,having a being like him in a world full of capes was cool,when he was the only weird thing in the world it was just typical horror nonsense.

To be absolutely and 100% fair, all these publishers barely got any advertising (besides from the Zoe Quinn shit), given that there's a lot people that still think Vertigo has nothing to do with DC

>DC Black Label

It's a shame how memes turned this into "DC MAX" when it was only ever supposed to be "Elseworlds with a new name". So now they're using it to literally mean "Mature Readers" instead of just "out of continuity alternate universe stories featuring DC superheroes" like it was originally about.

Dan didio and Jim lee doesn't have any power.

>read Vertigo comics and think it's from another publisher
>read Vertigo comics, but hate DC comics

Half of Yea Forums thinks this.

Baste bones

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>people that think that everything with DC on it takes place in the DC Universe

This is the biggest reason why this is a mistake. Comics do not attract the most intelligent people, and a lot of them literally cannot comprehend that something isn't part of the DC Universe unless they're given a literal label explicitly explaining that to them on the cover of the fucking comic.

>The storied Vertigo line, which was DC's first seperate imprint when launched in 1993, will be "sunsetted" (DC's term) by the end of the year, with no new titles expected to be announced in the interim.

At this point that's a mercy killing.

Half of Black Label is unrelated to Batman, you fucking retard. Try actually reading comics.

As long as they dont cancel the dreaming and especially Lucifer. They really picked up lately

Sounds like DilDio is still gonna be around shitting on DC for the foreseeable future. Fuck.

>the publishers have no power
Fuck off dumbass.

Didio literally made this announcement. He's hated Vertigo since they had control of his husbando Jonah Hex back in the 1990s.

>Le Yea Forums doesn't read comics
Hang yourself

It's called being a figurehead.

>Kingdom Come
>All-Star Superman
>"Mature Readers"

It's a shame how there's so much censorship nowadays that stuff like that is considered "Mature Readers". When they were released they were the exact opposite. Both of them would have been rated PG if they had been films instead of comics.

>we launched Vertigo to provide an outlet for edgier material

DiDio literally uses Yea Forums slang meme words irl. You stupid faggots memed him into talking and thinking like you. You always blame DiDio for making DC "edgier", but it's YOU'RE fault.

>comic books are for kids

The majority of comics readers have been over 18 for the last 40 years. Less than 10% of the reader base has been under 18 for the last 20 years.

Comics are not for kids PERIOD.

>video games

Only time the majority of video game players were kids was the NES through PS2 eras. It was mostly adults originally and it's been mostly adults for the last decade and a half or so. That's the majority of the medium's history.

>YOU'RE fault

>Don't matter how much heterosexual male pandering they add everyobe is going to complain and boycott
but DC did what everything sjws demaned and sales only fell.
it´s obvious that sjw boycotts don´t effect anything
considering that nowadays you can´t go two days without reading about feminist/sjws managing to censor yet another beloved franchise DC showing one big middle finger to those types of people would be the best marketing in a decade.
it´s not even about politics. it just would be something honestly unique and new.
the sjw/feminist agenda has become the norm so for years now so of course people are going to be more interested in something new.
same reason why conservative youtubers are doing so much better then liberal once.
people want variety

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those 18-40 year olds are consuming media literately made for children

No you have just misunderstood what likes adults are supposed to have and not have.

That's because the market is shrinking. Heterosexual white males don't need more pandering, they have action movies, shonen manga, harem anime and lots of videogames. Comic books arent really mainstream and the movies don't help (they can be understood without the source material) add the "for kids" marketing and you have the actual situation with less adults buying comic books (and that's without talking about the stupid Status Quo)

Because everyone thought the new Imprints and the annual Vertigo relaunch were going to last THIS time.

COD is special. Was made for adults but the kids invasion changed the perception of the people. Every time a mother buy a COD copy for her children is another person thinking that it has the right to complain about the adult themes of the game. Comic books are similar because they lose the oportunity to change the perception in the 80's and 90's before the manga/anime boom begin in the west.

You don't seem to understand the duties and requirements to be a publisher.

That's a pretty random use of that gif...

The absolute fucking state of DC Comics. Just close this entire garbage publisher already, christ

Current Black Label projects are:
>Batman Damned
>Superman Year One
>A Wonder Woman comic
>TWO Harley Quinn comics

Get fucked.

Snyder also leaked last week that American Vampire (IF IT EVER FUCKING CONTINUES) is going to Black Label now.
Lemire has an unannounced project, and Rucka might still be doing a WW book for it too (not the KSD/Jimenez Amazon project)

>and thinking like you
Yea Forums was barely a thing when he started his "mature comics for mature readers such as I" crap.

This is your brain on Yea Forums. It's been fried, you need to go out... for your own good. "Edgy" is not a term invented by Yea Forums, an edgy is also what Karen Berger always called Vertigo. Take a break from Yea Forums for a few days or else your brain will fully turn to mush.

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Don't worry that'll happen next

This is just a desperate attempt to save some money

>Epic ded
>Vertigo ded
>Indie publishers slowly bleeding to death
>”American comics aren’t superher-“

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You don't read comics lmao

Epic lives. It's corpse and logo are used on Epic Collections

Vertigo hasn't been good in many many years but still RIP

As long as the Black Label can do more serious stories and gore/nudity when called for by the story, fine.

I don't want another Batman Damned situation.

Thought vertigo outlived its usefullness.

I want non-capeshit in the Black Label. Books that take advantage of DC's storied history of horror, westerns, and war books that would feel out of place within the other two categories.

Only after WB corporate killed it by forcing them to change their contracts which lead to everyone fleeing to Image.

Good and fuck image hipstersoyshit.

Its a and t

I dunno if it's been posted here, but on Twitter I found one comic writer noting that while Vertigo was revolutionary back in 1993, the truth of the matter is that the atmosphere it brought became a new norm in comics. That is, comics don't necessarily need a Vertigo label to embody the Vertigo spirit.

"If you seek his monument, look around you."

>Heterosexual white males don't need more pandering,
lol, trust me as a white, heterosexual male I haven´t enjoyed any games, movies or comics for the last 5 years.
sure white men are still the majority of protagonists but they all get emasculated or ridiculed in those stories to make women or minorities come off as more competent, smarter or stronger
toy story 4 is a good recent example. woody might be the protagonist but he get completely character assassinated to that the female character can look even more like a perfect marie sue in comparison.
I much rather would have gotten a movie just about jessie going on an adventure alone instead.
comics, movies and games get censored by sjws left and right to no longer have things in them that trigger feminist and liberals.
I used to really like batman and catwoman but king completely ruined those characters for me by turning batman into a turbo cuck and removing all sexual aspects from catwoman and turning her into just another marie sue strong wyman who is smarter and better then batman and pretty much any other male dc hero.
male characters simply are no longer allowed to be heroic or cool and female characters are no longer allowed to be sexy, likable or have flaws.
I honestly would rather read a comic with genderless robots as long as good and fun action returns as a result.

It's just balance and Japan has both: the minority MC's and the usual MC's the only diference is that Japan has more real variety. Western media is a olygopoly that just can do a few things and that's it's biggest problem. Besides you can't compete with waifus, most men, all the lesbians and bisexual girls like waifus.

>I honestly would rather read a comic with genderless robots as long as good and fun action returns as a result.

Joke's on you user, they did that in MTMTE and it still sucked disregarding that they gave everyone gender again anyhow

>Besides you can't compete with waifus, most men, all the lesbians and bisexual girls like waifus.
japan is starting to self censor now as well due to western pressure.
sony has an official censorship policy and square recently forced the final fantasy team to censor tifas breast.
if you used to be a fan of media that features elements that sjws/feminists don´t like you really don´t get anything like that anymore.
it all either no longer gets made or got censored

>sony has an official censorship policy
And why does Sony have that censorship policy that oddly enough didn't tag RDR2?

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>due to western pressure.
due to the upcoming olympic games, after that they'll return to the old normal

>what is the nuke scene

Sony finance themselves mostly with western parents money, they need to sell shit to kids or Nintendo are going to kick their ass in the western market.

Sony moved the games division to California not too long ago because the console market in Japan is dying in favor of phones and PC. The guidelines are from Californians and even effects games that aren't coming out in America. They've censored ecchi games while letting a fully naked prostitute slide in RDR2. That's not self-censorship, that's American management going full retard with Japanese games.

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>while letting a fully naked prostitute slide in RDR2

rockstar games has a level of prestige that grants them special threatment. I'm not saying it's fair but that's how things work. Japs need to step up their game.

Sega effect? The japs know that they can't market outside of it's country, trusting blindly californians it's not a good idea, but at least they give us the games' they were too afraid before

Buy this makes sense. Why have vertigo when DC black does the same thing?

All it's classic series are done or got merged with current post 52 Universe. After Berger left they decided to make woke sjw shit that should've been left to webcomics instead. Good riddance

Before Vertigo there was New Format. Normies didn't pick up say The Shadow or Warlord and figure Superman would be in them.

what went wrong?

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The last four relaunches before that

Zoe Quinn and Robbi Butthole Rodriguez.

Sad to see Vertigo go, I'm certain DC will eventually can the "DC" part of DC Black Label title and let it be called "Black Label" in order to prevent further confusion.

So what the fuck is happening to American Vampire?

Someone asked Snyder about that earlier this week, and he said it was continuing under Black Label.
Which is twice now he confirms stuff that was supposed to be secret (the other being that Doomsday Clock is being treated as an unimportant elseworld and has no lasting changes to the DCU in it).

what elements of RDR2 would trigger feminist/sjws?
sure there is one minor female side character that shows cleavage but she is also a bit overweight.
other then that the story is full of sjw non sense with strong wyman marie sues who need no men and the historical incorrect attitude that the native american where all these peaceful people who didn´t du nothing.

It´s not just because of the olympics
many japanese game developers have offices or partners in the west who constantly pressure them to censor their games.
Dead or Alive 6 was mostly censored not because of Sony but because a game developer from California got in touch with them and constantly pressured them to decrease the girls breast size and jiggle

Yet again, Todd was right.

DC Kids is a fucking mistake. No kid wants to read a book titled for kids. Just call it YA like everyone else

Rich Johnston, everybody!

DC is such a mess. No wonder if it goes bankrupt someday.

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wonder if they purge sjw comics.
comics are actually dying. they need to launch a totally different label. a western manga label is actually needed from the long term perspective. otherwise they will end up in another crisis in the near future.

This fucking blows.

A bunch of spooky skeletons, how awful! It is fun playing "guess the corpse" though.

>our long track record of success with creator-driven pop-up lines
Has this even approached being true in ... decades? Seems like anyone wanting to do Creator Owned has jumped ship to Image these days.

Is animal man getting a second deluxe 30th anniversary book? That’s all I want

So I can buy the uncensored games from Japan?

>Heterosexual white males don't need more pandering, they have action movies, shonen manga, harem anime and lots of videogames.
I loved all those years of pandering with beautiful characters/actors with godlike physiques who succeed at everything in life.

Games are being censored by Sony of America even if they only release in Japan.

But YA is a completely different demographic. The mainline DC titles are rated for YA.

get woke go broke

>thinking it's censorship

They're labeled "mature" because they aren't the brain dead Michael Bay garbage DC normally publishes.

You're getting more edgy capes and you're going to like it!

>Heterosexual white males
>Shonen manga
> Heterosexual white males
>harem anime
You realize the protagonists on those are in their majority Japanese right? And you know why " Heterosexual white males" like them?
Because they are not trying pander to fuck heads like you in order to propagandize an ideology.
If every manga from now on had a white men crying about how oppressed he was while being incredibly good at everything he did i would stop buying manga.

Too late after the shit they did to senran kagura I'm not buying their new console or anything form them ever gain

> hey you need to make better games so you don't get censored.
> but we wont let you because we will censor your shit
That is just retarded user.

It's the same mindset that leads people to believe Superman needs to be segregated from "kids'" books to begin with. America has a deep rooted fear of the image of immaturity, which leads to an othering of irreverent and upbeat content.

Imagine having this much of a persecution complex. Try playing games that aren't shit.

Maybe you just have shit taste.

And that really matter?. Black, asian, latino man learned to self-insert as white male characters. There's no real diference here. And being more on topic that's because nor Marvel or DC learn from japanese companies like Ichijinsha or Kadokawa, they own a lot of magazines with different genres and that are it's own brand

Time for based Epic to come back

never said they are shit retard
just said that all games get censored because sjw like you hate men

allowing sjws who hate white men to make a product which is mostly consumed by white men

Well, user, there's only one thing you can do to put your "glorious race" back on top. You need to exterminate all SJWs, all women, all non-heterosexuals, and all non-Caucasians. Then you will get all you want because your kind will be the ONLY audience that exists.
So, get to it. Those SJWs won't kill themselves, you know...

I can't read a most extreme white genocide apologist. You're too few, too pampered and weak to achieve any of your goals you know?

What that supposed to be a sentence?

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They are back. Marvel puts out excellent Epic Collections every week

Neither do you

aka SJW's killed Vertigo, and no one even knows what the other lines are, so they're being cancelled and we're afraid to call it what it is

Last really good thing Vertigo put out was Mike Carey's run on Hellblazer.

After that, just a mountain of trash with the occasional bit of something decent here and there, but not much.

>Those SJWs won't kill themselves
A particular subset of them will, at a disproportionately high rate.

Amazing how he continues to fail upwards and not get fired or demoted. I thought the Bordertown fiasco would do it, but Khouri still remains employed by DC. He is an example of why you shouldn't let critics or radical political idealogues near creative.

>Sandman
>Hellblazer
>Transmetropolitan
>fucking PREACHER
>not SJW
Vertigo titles always had socially progressive politics.

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>It's the same mindset that leads people to believe Superman needs to be segregated from "kids'" books to begin with.
This is nuts, he's great with kids and serves as a good role model, even saying this as someone who doesn't like him much for everything else.

>fucking PREACHER
>socially progressive
Jesse was an absolute conservaCHAD who could kill every SJW in existence if he wanted.

Jesse didn't care about fags, hated ignorant rednecks and fought the KKK. That's all it takes to be called an SJW these days.

Young Animal is continuing and that's been a better Vertigo since it launched

Can't wait until 2021 when they completely redo how they handle reprints again.

I've been really enjoying the current Lucifer comic from the Sandman Universe line.

oof...they really didn't think this one through

Lucifer and The Dreaming are by far the best things DC is publishing right now. a shame that no one read them

Well Sony does have headquarters in California of all places, of course it would eventually get tainted.

Hell, the PlayStation brand literally established itself as a more adult platform compared to the kid oriented Nintendo and Sega. When those two were targeting children, Sony decided to bring in teenagers and adults.

>Less than 10% of the reader base has been under 18 for the last 20 years.
explain why Raina Telgemeier sold 2.3 million in books in 2016. Kids comics are the biggest market for comics

sega was not "the kid" system at the time, stop rewriting history snoyboy

a lot tamer than PG 13 comics

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>It's the world's fault that I'm a paranoid, miserable fuck
Go outside, user. You need help.

American Carnage and High Level were good. But yeah, those you posted were kill

>You realize the protagonists on those are in their majority Japanese right?
then why do they always draw them like they are white?

Light skinned people see what they want to see in cartoons. When it comes to hair colors, they just prefer variety.

So what will happen with Wonder Comics, The Wild Storm and Young Animal?

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>I haven´t enjoyed any games, movies or comics for the last 5 years

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This actually makes sense. Mainstream dc already vertigo. Age ratings seems more logical.

>Superman Year One is Black Label
How can you make Superman R rated?

Lololol SJWs literally ruin everything they touch

I'm saying you play shit games, jackass.
RE2R and DMCV came out just this year.

You add attempted rape of course

You are full of shit and you know you you piece of shit SJW.

They're pop-up imprints

What? if you are talking about skin tone is because the Japanese are usually light skinned.
If you are talking about race then you are the one seeing white people everywhere for whatever reason.

Even that was PG-13 alongside that PG rated implied sex between Clark and Lana. Miller's being pretty restrained, though maybe it'll get edgier as it goes on.

They scraped the final 2 books of the delux paperbacks of scalped. I doubt it will ever see a reprint again.

I'm not sure much vertigo will outside sandman and hellblazer.

Doubt invisible will.

I need to make compilations of the last decade of yearly book launches and see if anyone remembers more than one each year.
The last good year I can think of was 2009

>I doubt it will ever see a reprint again.
If Aaron's contract is like Cornell's, he'll get the publishing rights back after it goes OOP.
Aaron's already had his Vertigo war miniseries reprinted at Image since it was long oop at DC

>The "pop-ups" such as Young Animal, Sandman Universe, Wonder Comics, WildStorm, Jinxworld, and Milestone will continue, but it is unclear what age-label they - or the long-running MAD Magazine - would fall under or the nomenclature of the "pop-ups" themselves.
Most likely means they don't know themselves at this point hoping they'd figure it out as they go along.

I give this "system" 6 months, a year max, then they'll start launchung new imprints and/or shifting books there

what was the last good vertigo book

Here's a quick one.
This is the entire output of new titles in 2017.
Literally two, lasting six and eight issues each.

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goddess mode

Exactly as much an SJW as Jesse Custer you illiterate faggot.

Sheriff of Babylon

Here's Vertigo's roster of new titles in 2016
speak of the devil

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This is the last one I'll make for now. Out of this list,
>The Kitchen is a soon-to-be-released WB movie
>Effigy was seven issues long, and the final issue was filled with new plot points that were never continued
>Mad Max was one of several one-shots
>SFX was a four issue anthology about sound
>Survivor's Club was optioned by CW for an adaptation
>There was also a Wolf Among Us digital comic

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RIP

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Hey guys, did you know Xbox One controllers, natively supported IOS 13, are much cheaper today?

Vertigo died years ago anyway. After Berger left, it was pretty much a lifeless corpse shambling around.

I've been hoping for DC and Marvel to do something like this for ages. It helps consumers and creators find their niche. You had a bunch of cartoon kiddy books, then everything else muddled together. For a while Marvel Knights and Marvel MAX worked as Marvel's older teen and adult labels, but those fell by the way side.

How the fuck is Kingdom Come a 17+ adult title? Even Dark Knight Returns wasn't really above a 13+ range. I don't see how they are as adults only as Watchmen.

Tom King's books has 17+ adult material... but the mentality of a story written for a 5 year old. It really does not fit in any of these.

Didio is a dark presence that just won't leave

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They gave fucking Zoe Quinn and Robbie Rodriguez a fucking book. I guess just being someone who shouts about your outrage on twitter all day doesn't mean you should write a comic book for one of the biggest publishers in the world.

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Your optimism is touching, but DC will likely just pump out a bunch of Batman books and call it a day.

Which means little Billy who likes to read the kid comics will have to deal with batcock too.

>one of the biggest publishers in the world.

Nigga, Scholastic makes the Big Two look like a fucking joke.

yeah and it was one of the few books that was actually coming out

Is it just me, or are modern progressive movements turned pants on head retarded? As someone who grew up on Vertigo and progressive ideology in the 90s, are today's progressives off the rails?

I can't help but think we're barely achieved stuff from back then like gay rights and progressive economic reform of corrupt industries. Meanwhile today's progressives are demanding that we teach kids about transgender male menstruation with child drag queens and full on socialist single payer government healthcare. Fucking Obamacare was a flash in the pan that didn't even have a national mandate for state public option healthcare and they want to go full federal government healthcare like England? Are they fucking nuts?

Has the progressive moment been flooded more than ever with loonie lefties so the sane moderate voices are drowned out? I can't help but see this in comics too when loons like Zoe Quinn get books at Vertigo.

Then again, more moderate creators like even Gaiman have jumped ship for Dark Horse for their creator owned stuff. Gaiman only worked at Vertigo recently to curate some Sandman related books.

And funny enough, it's the right wing corporatism of Vertigo that drove so many people away. When that Wanrers exsec started complaining about creator owned work at Vertigo, that killed Vertigo's backbone for finding creative voices.

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And manga outsells Marvel and DC as well. Shhh. Let us comic nerds at least pretend that our little industry is doing well and not just a bunch of worn out old farts fighting over an ever shrinking piece of land.

I mean now that the cca isnt a thing anymore I can see where they're coming from. I'm okay with DC Black Label taking the mantle.

how come watchmen isnt dc vertigo?

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I don't think Watchmen's ever been printed with Vertigo on the spine.
V for Vendetta and Moore's Swampy was, not Watchmen from what I remember

Yes, how come its not? It strikes me as prime vertigo material.

Nigga, it's a miracle there was a second arc in Doom Patrol. This shit was destined to fail simply because these properties don't sell.

Not him, but gerard way doom patrol?

does this mean Milligan can make Skreemer a hardcover edition

New Romancer and Slash & Burn were fun
I ilked Art Ops, Jiro, Strange Sports and SFX Pop

>If you are talking about race then you are the one seeing white people everywhere for whatever reason.
OK

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It has been [0] days since DC did something stupid.

Maybe. That was pre-vertigo, and it looks like DC might own the name "Skreemer" as a title.
He would have to convince someone else to publish it though. Likely through IDW, since he seems to be really close to the Bonds (Shelly pretty much gave him a book a year under Vertigo, but none really took off)

Add Lois Lane getting shot in the head, like in that Walmart issue aimed at the casual kids market.

Doom Eternal's coming out in November, and that's exactly the kind of testosterone fueled uncensored masculinity fest user craves. Granted, it's more than obvious he didn't play 2k16 since he wouldn't be this pissy otherwise.

That's what happens when modern leftist creators have the passion, but not the talent.

Y'know how I can tell you're from reddit?

Picture books are not "comics".

Wasn't Transmet originally a Helix book anyway? Helix shut down and it went to Vertigo if I remember right.

Transmet was originally Helix, but Helix only lasted for a year. Issues 13-60 were all published under Vertigo, so the old spine printings make much more sense than using the Helix name.

>Transmetropolitan
I don't think that's necessarily progressive. The first arc takes some pretty heavy shots at the transgender stand-ins even when portraying them in a sympathetic light.

Only America and Anglo countries have been unhinged. The English speaking sphere has gotten out of hand and absolutely insular. Probably its because nearly all of them only experience English media and are monolingual scum. Every ignorance comes from that, it seems. Like, they innocently believe everything media says about Japan. I mean, from what I heard, Euros arent "culturally" that obsessed with the SJW ideology.

For example, French have still made a bunch of "normal" comics despite following some SJW trends. Their latest City Hunter movie, which performed well in their mainstream market, was also like 90s comics. The story is like, the protag Ryo caught a disease thats gonna make him only love men and he was fucking terrified of that, and does some comedy and action shit to cure it. This would be considered an absolute homophobic content and even be canceled in the US. In fact I saw some usual angry mutt reviewing like that and giving one star to it lmao

>RIP
>Goddess Mode
More like Rest In Piss

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I made the mistake of reading a lot of Vertigo books after being enamored with Preacher, Sandman, and Swamp Thing. There's few underrated gems there, if you hadn't heard of a title then chances are that's because it just wasn't memorable. I read about 2/3rds of the titles in that pic and all of them were pretty disappointing.

Fucking Clean Room. Had the same fate as a lot of relatively unknown Vertigo titles where it started of strong but shat the bed with an unsatisfying ending. It and the Names made me stay away from all but the most well known comics.

There's a difference between well-constructed, bizarre, original alternative takes on reality and story telling, and regressive, boring, leftist trash made by tumblr retards that now has taken over the industry. Try harder faggot, and if you don't believe me, go read any of your old "progressive" books back to back with Ms. Marvel, America, or Squirrel Girl, and tell me something isn't off about this new trash.

>transgender stand-ins
>when there are actual transgenders throughout the environment of the book
You're seeing what you wanted to see.

Might have something to do with how the rights were supposed to revert to Moore and Gibbons eventually.

I'm a huge Ewins fan

dmcv got censored by sony even after capcom already desexulized lady and trish to no longer have big breasts

>paranoid
sony and square admitted it themselves that they censor sexual elements?
you are just some liberal who keeps making excuses for how retarded the political party of his choice has become.
if it has done because of drumpf I am sure you would protest on the streets with the rest of you child fucker friends

>Is it just me, or are modern progressive movements turned pants on head retarded? As someone who grew up on Vertigo and progressive ideology in the 90s, are today's progressives off the rails?
it´s not just you. I am literally in the same boat as you

Because you're from there and you automatically think everyone is from there.

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they are probably so desperate for cash at this point that they hope that collectors will re-buy all their older books if it comes with a different logo.
Imagine
>oh yes I have both the Vertigo and new DC logo version of Sandman. Cool right?

yeah that´s what I said retard. I don´t read comics ANYMORE. why would I want to read sjw shit?

>Why does a guy named Edward Elric from fantasy Germany look white?

Please tell me you aren't actually this retarded

have an intense sex scene between Martha and jonathan and then showing a supermarket door accidentally hitting martha's pregnant stomach leading to her miscarry leading into the classic superman story.


Never let me write superman.

>About fuq in time ching chong bing bongs had it figured out a half century ago in there mangos

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I thought you already did, millar.

He's an idiot. A safe beat is to just assume they're all supposed to look Japanese unless they have English names like the Elric's or all those fags in Attack on Titan

His name is Arucardo and he is clearly Japanese!

Honestly this. I love my country, but for all the talk about racial diversity, this place hates foreign media that isn’t videogames. And even then there has been blowback after blowback on the most minuscule of things in Japanese games, as well as a few things in CDPR’s games. Hell on Yea Forums I see the dumbest of shit said about anime/manga and European stuff (granted part of that is bait).

DC mismanaged the fuck out of Vertigo so that makes sense. Also, the lack of talant the big two have is astonishingly low. Anyone who likes comics in general only works at the big two in order to get a name for themselves now and then move on to creator owned comics. There are a few exceptions but the big two pay 90% of their workers like shit and offer no reason to do something that's synonymous with vertigo when they could just do it at image and make several times more if it's successful.

>Anyone who likes comics in general only works at the big two in order to get a name for themselves now and then move on to creator owned comics.

And get health insurance. The main reason people work for them is because they provide healthcare.

I also think the art standards are unrealistically high at the big two. Comics are fucking hard work and both publishers demand an almost photographic artstyle that's incredibly time consuming to draw. It would be better all around if they went with a more stylistic approach, but I doubt they'll be willing to hire cartoonists in the vein of Bruce Timm or Stephen Destefano.

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>I also think the art standards are unrealistically high at the big two.
have you read much comics over the last 4 years?
3 out of 5 times I comment that the art looks like a cheap indie comic these days

>Makes sense after BatDick

How? That happened in a Black Label book, an imprint they keep

They dialed back the rating and had Romita redraw much of it....so I guess, you just don't

Hey, I know a prefect place for them

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American Carnage is fucking great

Superman Year One is the only non-Batman book published by them so far, with Harley and Joker books to follow. There's no word on the Wonder Woman or the Black History ones

you skipped Motherlands by Si Spurrier. which was 2018 and in between the two pics you mentioned. But it was a good series. Very SJW type but Spurrier can make that work.

Disney would never go for it

Unfollowed was kinnda good. Too bad it had a rushed. unremarkable ending due to the cancelation

>. Fucking Obamacare was a flash in the pan that didn't even have a national mandate for state public option healthcare and they want to go full federal government healthcare like England?
healthcare in the US is fucked and will always be fucked. Obama tried to do something and got shot down so he did anything he could. But nope, you let the drug companies run your entire nation.

>I don´t read comics
just like Yea Forums to not read comics

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Big two has to do better about managing artist arcs IMO. Give them 6 issues to draw and then give them a break.

But user, insulin NEEDS to cost $5000/year, for CAPITALISM. Those other countries that negotiate significantly lower drug costs with manufacturers are COMMIE SOCIALISTS.

Oh please. Obama did almost jack shit. And the Dems have lost so much power they might lose what little they have. I've been lucky to live in a Democrat filled state that managed to create a public option for assholes like me between jobs. Obama couldn't even manage on a federal to create a state by state mandate for that. I was hoping he would have states try for follow Romneycare. Instead Obamacare did.. what the fuck did it do? I guess they got insurance companies to ignore pre-existing conditions.. and.. a half-assed online gateway to find private insurance?

For comic book creators, even some at the big two, there is no sure regular employment. You're going to have to buy your own healthcare and that's a fucking minefield. And if a small publisher wanted to try to have health insurance for regular employees, it's just as much a pain as ever to do that. Obamacare might have made things even more complicated for small businesses to do that. I'm fairly sure Obama was almost as much in the pocket of these big healthcare companies as the damn Republicans.

I bet that is gonna last all of 3 months before Vertigo is brought back by popular demand, then they add more imprints, and that original idea is quietly forgotten.

Obama spent more time trying to please Republicans than his own base.

That's not capitalism. That's anarchy. Any sane person believes in bringing those people to justice as much as they believe in capitalism. As libertarian as I am, I also believe in some progressive government regulation to stop scammers like that. The trouble is too many of the regulators are on the company dime.

It's truth, justice, and the American way.
Not lies, profit, and business all the way.

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The ship is starting to sink

It's called controlled opposition user. Make people think they have a champion, but it turns out everyone's just working for those you thought you were fighting.

if I saw something good I would read again
but so far I stay with european graphic novels

>not reading Murder Falcon

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does murder falcon have cheesecake or nice art in general?

user please, that's the exact lame excuse I use to no see the newest popular shonen anime

>cheesecake
nope, but some of the most amazing art in current comics

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>popular demand
You haven't been following DC under DiDio much, have you?

I didn't make a 2018 one yet. Motherlands was 2018, along with Imaginary Fiends and Deathbed. Those three titles were almost all of it for most of the year, then the Sandman ones started in late 2018

Vertigo in 2014. I found a "what's coming this year," and it actually advertised stuff like The Kitchen, which came out later in 2015.
Leaner year, with two eight issue minis (The Names became nine), and Carey/Gross was wrapping up The Unwritten with a final twelve issues, relaunched as The Unwritten: Apocalypse.

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Whoops, forgot Wolf Moon (just like everyone else)

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>Milligan
>Carey
>Spurrier
not a bad list
Girl Who Plays with Fire has a nice cover and makes me want to read it

People remember the hits, not all the flops.
And there were a bunch of flops every year, especially after 2009

Here's a messy one.
Vertigo in 2013 had a lot of one-shots.
>Federal Bureau of Physics was originally titled Collider until a lawsuit threat changed it

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Literally has not played a game, but still has an audacity to express his retarded opinion. God I love democracy.

Wish we could turn back time...

These collages are just going to get messier and messier as time goes back. Fewer things are digitized nicely.
Vertigo in 2012 notes
>There were two other OGN's called "Right State" and "Shooters," but both were released as hardcovers are never scanned. Prince of Cats is a tiny resolution

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American Vampire and Get Jiro were fun. Didn't care much about the rest through.

I liked Saucer Country, but that's pretty much all I've read from that year.
Looking at 2011, there are a lot of OGN's that were never scanned, so I might not continue with the collages for now.
Cornell got to continue SC a few years back, but the sales were so bad that it will never finish now

only thing from there I like is Fables

Vertigo in 2011.
Not pictured (unscanned OGN's)
>99 Days
>A.D.D.
>Aaron and Ahmed
>Cowboys
>Return to Perdition
Flight of Angels was a nice little OGN anthology with excellent art.
Another year, another American Vampire miniseries

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I like most of these newer Vertigo books, till Bond left at least
Khouri just is a bad editor

What's sad is that Khouri actually barely edited anything. His first thing at Vertigo was Motherlands in 2018. Then he did Eternity Girl for Young Animal.
His titles for their newest relaunch were
>Border Town (cancelled due to sexual misconduct allegations)
>American Carnage (ending at 9)
>High Level
>Goddess Mode
Molly Mahan has been doing much better than him. She edited most of the Young Animal line, and is managing all of the Sandman Universe ones.

he also got Omega Men initially cancelled (but that sucked ass too)

>What's sad is that Khouri actually barely edited anything.
*Sad as in he's the figurehead, but seems to barely do any work.
I will applaud him for getting two porn artists to work for DC when he was editing Rebirth Aquaman and Green Arrow (Sejic and Schmidt). Good on him for getting Ferreyra to continue working for DC, but then Ferreyra stopped getting DC gigs after Khouri was moved to Vertigo

Vertigo in 2010 was all about the OGN's. Their Crime line was still in full swing, but never really took off.
Of this year, only two titles would go on to be successful ongoings
>iZombie
>American Vampire
The rest of the year was filled with miniseries and OGNs

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Not Si Spurrier, Si Spencer.

We are now a full decade back. Lemire was known for his personal small press work like Essex County, but Sweet Tooth would become his first work published at DC/Vertigo. He would write some Superman related books before taking on Animal Man after the 2011 reboot.
Bang! Tango was a fantastic miniseries asking the question are traps gay
and The Unwritten was the other success for this year. The Haunted Tank was the last DCU IP given to Vertigo before 2011's Flashpoint yanked them all back.

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are Bang Tango or Greek Street worth reading? I like the covers

Greek Street was ok from my memory
I liked that Delano Constantine OGN

Seaguy was probably the best thing I read that whole year.

>Seaguy Eternal never

BangTango is a good, short, mini with good art. Image reprinted it a few years back after Kelly got the full rights to it. That cover is from the reprint. The read covers to that series were rough Howard Chaykin ones.

Cameron Stewart is a piece of shit.

Vertigo in 2008
>Madame Xanadu and The Unknown Solder were fantastic series based on DC IP's. Both of them had awful sales though.
>House of Mystery was rough as an anthology
>Northlanders would see a successful 50 issues.
>Army@Love - The Art of War was a six issue conclusion of Rich Veitch's batshit series
>Young Liars was fantastic
>Greatest Hits was "what if The Beatles were superheroes?" and was rough. Glenn Fabry did interiors, which is rare.
>The Alcoholic was an OGN that Berger had reprinted at Dark Horse last year under her label. Berger did the same thing with Incognegro
>Air was some of G. Willow Wilson's first work. Berger found her the year before, and published an OGN prior to this.

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Northlanders was fantastic and anyone who was a fan of it should be reading his indie series Sword Daughter that is very much in the same vein. It's about a young woman who becomes a mute cause after her village is slaughtered her dad goes catatonic for 10 years and she has to raise herself. It is fucking brutal but so well done.

also
>Berger found GWW
huh, a shame she can't seem to get Berger books to work at Dark Horse. What is the problem there?

>Sword Daughter
sounds like more feminist trash like most comics these days.
so no thanks

give it a fucking rest. did you hate all female led books in the 80s and 90s too?

isn't she doing the book with Christian Ward under Berger?

the only Berger book I know that is worth a damn is The Seeds and that's been delayed to hell and back.

The industry is starved for talent.

Vertigo in 2007 (last one I'm doing for now)
>Army@Love is a satire of the modern US military
>Cairo was GWW
>Crossing Midnight was flawed, but I liked it. It had neat art, and though the ending was rushed, everything did resolve itself
>Faker was a pretty mediocre bit of work from Carey
>Scalped went on for sixty issues
>I haven't read the SMT miniseries or God Save the Queen
>The Un-Men was a continuation of a 1990s Vertigo miniseries. It featured characters from Wein's Swamp Thing
>The Vinyl Underground had some neat ideas but a rushed ending.
>Silverfish is a decent Lapham book

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One of the guys involved in Scalped was like a pervert, right?

nope because female characters were still characters back then and not feminist mouth pieces

>guy who used to write fairly historical accurate stories is now writing feminist propaganda as well
What a sad state of affairs but also incredibly fitting for this dying industry.

What the fuck is God Save The Queen?

>Army@Love
imagine them doing it now. everybody would be gay or a tranny having to fight the evil sexist trump supporting white male soldiers to get tax dollar payed sex changes.

How is it feminist propaganda?

>female warrior
that says it pretty much all

I lied, I made one more.
Vertigo in 2006
>Deadman was terrible, and was the result of a trade between Berger and Didio. Didio threw away Deadman to get Jonah Hex back from the Vertigo office.
>DMZ lasted for 72 issues
>American Virgin was really fun, but had a very shitty ending. Quite possibly the worst ending to any comic series, and I'm honest in my opinion about that.
>Other Side was reprinted by Image last year
>Jack of Fables went for 50 issues
>Pride of Baghdad is the lion rape one
>The Fountain OGN was produced when the movie was in development hell. The movie would come out a few years later.

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I liked DMZ when I read it, but my library got rid of it's copies and I haven't reread it since it ended

I have never heard of Testament, but apparently Liam Sharp did the art

Border Town was alright. We need more hot mexican boys. They are pretty cheap during spring break.

>nope because female characters were still characters back then and not feminist mouth pieces
haha what a fragile ego bitch

>The guy who set that up was fired by the new boss Pam Lifford last December. That should have been a sign that the line was already being interfered with.
>He was fired before a single OGN released
Corporate sucks.

Shit, how many comics has Milligan done for Vertigo?

did Brian Wood actually something wrong because he's the best modern Vertigo writer

>get Jonah Hex back from the Vertigo office.
That was for the best, Gray and Palmiotti's Jonah Hex book was vastly superior to the Vertigo book.

He was thirsty and hit on a female artist which apparently took him a while to take no for an answer, a bit sleezy but he's not blacklisted.

I'll count Skreemer even though it came out in 1989
>Skreemer (1989), 6 issues
>Shade, the Changing Man (1990), 70 issues*
>Animal Man (1990), six issues total
>Enigma (1993), eight issues, originally a Touchestone Comics title before Disney quit the idea
>One story in Vertigo Jam! (1993)
>The Extremist (1993), four issue miniseries
>Rogan Gosh (1994)
>one story in Vertigo Rave (1994)
>Egypt (1995), seven issue miniseries
>Tank Girl Movie Adapation (1995) OGN/One-shot
>Vertigo Voices: The Eaters (1995) One-shot
>Face #1 (1995) one-shot
>Tank Girl: The Odyssey (1995) four issues
>Girl (1996), three issue miniseries
>One story in Weird War Tales (1997)
>Vertigo Winter's Edge #1 (1998), one story
>The Minx (1998), eight issues
>Vertigo Winter's Edge #2 (1998)
>One story in Hearthrobs #3 (1998)
>Human Target (1999), four issue miniseries
>One story in Weird Western Tales (2001)
>Human Target: The Final Cut (2002) OGN
>Vertigo Pop! London (2003), four issues
>Human Target (2003), 21 issues
>Hellblazer (2009-2012), last 50 issues
>Greek Street (2009), 16 issues
>One story in House of Mystery 2009 annual
>The Bronx Kill (2009) OGN
>One story in House of Mystery 2010 annual
>One story in Time Warp (2013)
>One story in Vertigo CMYK (2014)
>The Names (2015), nine issues (solicited as eight)
>New Romancer (2016), six issues
>One story in Vertigo SFX (2015)
and he's been gone since Bond was fired. He did then do Kid Lobotomy for Bond over at Black Crown books

*He tried to quit after 50, but Berger pulled the executive editor card and told him that the book would continue without him, so he stayed. Bachalo left though. I understand why she did it.

>*He tried to quit after 50, but Berger pulled the executive editor card and told him that the book would continue without him, so he stayed.
To be fair, I don't blame Berger for that since he wanted to leave it at the most unsatisfying downer ending imaginable. You could tell he was putting a lot less effort in to his subsequent issues though.

Wood did an interview for a podcast a few years about where he talked about taking his new work to Image and other publishers because WB got involved and changed how the ownership split is.
DMZ (which started in 2006) has
>Compilation copyright 2006 DC Comics)
>Copyright 2006 Brian Wood and Riccardo Burchielli
>All Characters, likenesses and related elements featured in this publication are trademarks of DC Comics
Meanwhile, Northlanders in 2008 has this
>Compilation copyright 2008 DC Comics
>Copyright 2008 Brian Wood and DC Comics
>Vertigo and all characters, etc are trademarks of DC Comics.
In 2008, WB got their hands in the copyright of new books, pushing people like Wood away (once it was cancelled)

I think it's more like Berger didn't want to lose any more books. Shade, the Changing Man was cover dated for August 1994 (so a few months earlier in reality). If it ended there, then one of the core books for her new imprint would be gone in less than two years.
Sandman for comparison was also on it's way out. #62 came out in that same month, and that was part of the giant The Kindly Ones story arc. That series would come to an end a year later.
Books of Magic was only four issues in, and Sandman Mystery Theatre was seventeen issues in.
The new books had not really taken off yet.

fuck thats a lot
impressive
can someone give a rundown on the quality of each one

Thanks bro your work is top notch

All I can say is that Shade was great for those 50 issues he wanted to write it and Enigma was crap.

The earlier stuff was better