You now remember the Inhumans tv show

If he's so great then where's his spinoff?

>Someone needs to write a book about why the Inhumans push was such a disaster.
You don't need a whole book to tell you what went wrong with this show when all questions are answered by Ike's unwillingness to spend money.

don't remember any of the character names, but Satyr dude had that best story arc when he met up with the surfer veterans. Then they fucked it up by killing him and bringing him back. or something. look I don't remember much past the surfer crew death, that was the highlight of the season. everything else sucked.

Remember how perfect plan guy had brain damage and no longer had plans, and medusa got her head shaved? yeah that's such a good representation of the characters.

It's sort of crazy to be simultaneously the person demanding a property get adapted when no one else wants it, but also refusing to spend any money on it and just have the actors run around in the woods for six hours.

This is about the Inhumans show, not the comics. There were no Alpha Primitives, no slaves, no gas cloud and no mutants in the show.

They're talking about it at least. Picard has the priority now.

>Like, jesus christ, how do you fuck up THAT badly?
By being Modern Day Marvel of course
>because people working on the show actually remembered they're brothers.
Nice to know they at least did some research.

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I meant the entire Inhumans push including the comics.

So was Lockjaw actually a person at some point in the comics? I'm sure they would have retconned it but was it ever true?

I legit wonder if the show was the plot of the movie, but the stretched it for 6 episodes.

There were pretty clearly slaves in the show, working in the mines.

No, I don't, I never watched any of it.

>It's sort of crazy to be simultaneously the person demanding a property get adapted when no one else wants it,
It wasn't "no one else wants it", it was all the feud between Ike and Fiege. If it had actually been made as an MCU movie, it would have brought in millions of normies the same as all the others have done.

Fiege wanted to make a Carol Danvers movie, and did not want Inhumans, while Ike wanted to make Inhumans and not a Carol Danvers movie, because at that time there had never been a successful superheroine solo movie. It's not known if Fiege genuinely doesn't like the Inhumans, or didn't want to make it just because it was the thing Ike wanted. Once Ike lost any control over the MCU, Inhumans was dropped because it was his project. If there was an Inhumans movie script produced, there's a good chance the Eternals movie will be recycling the basic plot.

As far as I know, he's always been a Dog but I wouldn't be shocked if there was an old story that said he was human.

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It's just one issue of The Thing solo book written by John Byrne in the 1980s that retconned Lockjaw from being a dog into an Inhuman, to show that the terrible effects Terrigen could have. It was not mentioned again until it was undone in the 1990s, and the modern Inhumans books have explained Lockjaw as a dog that was experimented on by Black Bolt's parents.

IIRC, in the show if an Inhuman doesn't gain a useful power, they got sent to work in the unpleasant menial jobs like the mines because somebody's got to do it to keep the city running. It's closer to a conscripted workforce than to actual slavery, they weren't someone's property and there was no indication they weren't being paid. It's the way Attilan had always been run, and the show's heroes learn to question that over the course of the series, and decided to change things.

Imagine going out of your way and paying to watch third rate TV capeshit on IMAX

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>Someone needs to write a book about why the Inhumans push was such a disaster.

They are just shitty characters and B-listers incapable of being anything other than role players.

Black Bolt their leader can't even speak, what is even the point of these shit mutant knock offs? (yes I know Kirby made them before the X-men, they are still mutant knock-offs)

So many things went wrong, from Soule focusing the main book on Medusa and his NuHuman OCs instead of using Black Bolt or Crystal as the traditional focus characters, to continuing Marvel's method of building interest in events by pitting fandoms against each other, and pitting the small Inhumans fanbase against the much larger and angrier X-Men fanbase.

If they had let the Inhumans be the Inhumans instead of trying to change them into replacement X-Men, and produced one good book instead trying to make them a franchise, things could have worked out better.

It is absolutely mindboggling that the Inhumans dominated fucking *everything* in Marvel comics for so long and then this show was the best they could do.

Lockjaw is an Inhuman who transformed in to a dog when exposed to the Terragen Mist.

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Long hair Crystal is trash.

You're trash.

>this show
>inhuman push
>nuhumans
>ivx
at least i still have the jenkins run

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BLACKGARBOLTAGON

Imagine jewing yourself on your own pet project.

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Thanks for the scans user. Glad I now know the original origin of this dog, it's retcon but still nice to know.

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>Black Bolt their leader can't even speak, what is even the point of these shit mutant knock offs? (yes I know Kirby made them before the X-men, they are still mutant knock-offs)
X-fags gonna X-fag. The point of the Inhumans was to be a hidden city of superhumans, with their own culture and customs that could be completely alien to the rest of the world. That's nothing like mutants at all.
What is so difficult to understand about Black Bolt? He's the most powerful Inhuman, yet he must constantly restrain himself, for fear of the damage he could accidentally do if he slips up just once, his power is both gift and curse, and most good Inhumans stories are a build towards Black Bolt being forced to unleash his power.

I went to see this in theaters without knowing that it was a tv pilot. I began realizing it near the end but that's not what sticks out about it in my memory.

What I'll always remember is how hammy and ridiculous the scene of the Flayed Bastard shaving Medusa was. With Medusa's over the top crying, Flayed Bastard's looks of near orgasmic bliss, the cheesy DESPAIR music and that I seem to recall Medusa having hair that grows back super fast I was in literal hysterics.

First time I'd been unable to control my laughter in a movie theater.

>The point of the Inhumans was to be a hidden city of superhumans, with their own culture and customs that could be completely alien to the rest of the world. That's nothing like mutants at all.
Not him but yeah sure that was the point. And then in the last few years Marvel just tried to make them the new mutants.

>And then in the last few years Marvel just tried to make them the new mutants.
And people who liked the Inhumans were just as unhappy with this as X-Men fans were. A small number of the NuHumans were popular, but the entire direction was a terrible mistake and nobody is arguing against that.

*ahem* FUCK THE INHUMANS AND FUCK TERRIGEN

Someone post THAT scene. You know the one.

What if Lockjaw was just an intelligent enough intelligent dog to know that would keep Pietro from doing something stupid?

How much can you really do before the disfigurement at this point?

Not a bad theory to be honest.

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they only got a massive push because Ike Perlmutter wanted them as X-Men replacements

This is how I always imagined it.

>Ike in a room, grumbling about Fox X-Men
>"Do we have something like mutants but that we own?"
>Intern: "Uh.... well I guess the Inhumans are a superpowered race o-"
>"Good, do that. Kill all the X-Men and replace them with that thing you just said. We own it, right?"

Going by the current timeline, they've got 4 years before he's promoted to fleet captain and 8 years before he's wounded.

Fuck yeah. It all started with smallville.

>The point of the Inhumans was to be a hidden city of superhumans
They literally blew it up over NYC, wiping Hell's Kitchen off the map and killing hundreds of thousands if not millions of people in New York and New Jersey. I don't think they're that hidden at this point, although nobody seems to remember nor care about this.
>with their own culture and customs that could be completely alien to the rest of the world.
Which goes out the window with the whole transforming random people across the world into Inhumans with toxic gas released by that bomb I just mentioned.
>That's nothing like mutants at all.
You mean x-gene mutants. Inhumans are in-universe considered mutants. In fact, they have basically the same origin as x-gene mutants. Just replace Celestial genetic engineering with Kree genetic engineering.

>follows up Inhumans with the shittiest Trek show
>immediately becomes the best thing on the show
>actually manages to singlehandedly salvage some episodes
>he's so fucking great he manages to pass some of it on to the writers
>the retcons STD adds to Pike manage to make the character one of the finest examples of heroism in Trek

what one?

The best part about this and the thing that I never see referenced is that they released the pilot in limited run in theaters. It showed at my local IMAX one weekend and got a decent amount of hype pre-release.

>Once Ike lost any control over the MCU, Inhumans was dropped because it was his project.
Plans didn't dropped for it but it was obvious that after the separation Perlmutter wanted to keep Inhumans away from Feige.

>If there was an Inhumans movie script produced, there's a good chance the Eternals movie will be recycling the basic plot.
Maybe

Yeah, I know. But you wanted to make something to replace the X-Men, one of the most famous and popular comic franchises, and THIS show was all you could do? Insane.

Inhumans comics from 2013 onwards completely missed the point of The Inhumans. We all already know this. Nobody who actually likes the Inhumans thought any of this was a good idea.

How could I forget a show with such a distinctive and unique costume design philosophy?

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Crystal was only good shit in this pile of dogshit.

>from Soule focusing the main book on Medusa and his NuHuman OCs instead of using Black Bolt or Crystal as the traditional focus characters

I think the higher-ups imposed that on him. For some reason Crystal was gone for the longest and it seemed editorially mandated.

This one?

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Remember, THIS is how they depicted Karnak's abilities

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The purpose of the inhumans and the X-Men are completely different
X-Men were made so Stan didn't have to waste time on origins so they could focus on adventure but also ended up being used for an oppression and evolution angle
The inhumans should be thought closer as an entirely different sub race of humanoids not unlike Amazons and Atlanthians. As far as politics go they're xenophobs. Very different

Maximus was well cast

i've never realized there's the core difference of Inhumans wanna be left alone on the moon and the entire point of X-Men is to live along everyone else

If they didn't kill Quicksilver he could have been the link to the inhumans

They tried to flip it, before it was only the brotherhood and magneto wanting to be supremacists but then even Scott and his crew started agreeing with that sentiment

And during the inhumans push you had them opening up to the world

The push was to stupid for this to be anything more than a coincidence

>Demand an Inhumans show
>Refuse to spend any money on it
Classic Ike!

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The only good thing is that they finally got rid of Karnak stupid giant head

Wasn't the showrunner the guy whom people blamed for the last few seasons of Dexter, and also Netflix Iron Fist?

Yes. Amazing, isn't it?

>Netflix Iron Fist
People gave him work after that?

>Inhumans
Why were they ever even a thing? What narrative purpose did they serve that wasn't already served by mutants and rando humans with powers?

Frankly I'm surprised he got a job after Dexter season 8.
>inb4 Dexter always sucked
Well, season 8 sucked in ways that I can't even describe.

He would be the perfect Reed Richards.

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What was Ramsay's power again?

Bro fucking MARVEL gave him a fucking job right after he completely fucked on of their properties.

Focusing on Medusa was definitely mandated, they were full on feminazi mode at the time.

No i don't

Still gets me every time.

>yes I know Kirby made them before the X-men,
X-Men are older than shithumans ffs, where did this meme come from?

My guess is Ike saw the dailies for Iron Fist and realized Buck worked fast and cheap

>What is so difficult to understand about Black Bolt? He's the most powerful Inhuman, yet he must constantly restrain himself, for fear of the damage he could accidentally do if he slips up just once, his power is both gift and curse,
That's a poor man's cyclops

A friend of mine liked it

hey cyke

Agents of SHIELD did the Inhumans better than the actual Inhumans show

Feige's pettiness against Ike and his properties is just as much of an issue with the modern MCU as Ike's concern over budget

yeah, and both BB and Cyclops have a weakness for a redhead with head powers and both wear a condom suit