There are we happy now?
Spider-Man makes his OWN suit (using Stark Tech)
>literally the same suit as homecoming but black so they can recycle all spiderman toys that didn’t sell and just paint them black
Thanks Disney
>(using Stark Tech)
Into the trash
A lot of people hated Homecoming but frankly seeing Spider-Man do some new shit instead of re-hashing his origin or is probably the best "reboot" Hollywood has produced since the new Planet of the Apes trilogy
If you want the origin story and the classic beats, the Raimi movies are still there. If you want to see him do shared universe shit and get into crazier hijinks, the MCU movies are there.
And then I guess the Andrew Garfield movies are around if you want to see him look like a basketball
It’s not even an issue with the origin. I just don’t care for this take on Peter and his never ending quest for validation and living up to Tony Stark
What if I want a movie that feels like the classic spider stories I like which include crossovers
I hate fucking retards like you, I want a more accurate spidey interacting with the mcu not stark jr
>origin
How about the human condition? That's the basis for every good Spider-Man story. Holland hasn't gotten his mouth off RDJ's cock long enough to utter some character-driven dialog.
I can see the headlines now
"teenager invents spider suit"
Its not about origins or anything like that people hate homecoming because the jokes were embarrassing, the plot was just shitty references to previous films and the characters were boring especially MJ with shit skin
If you are older than 13, you are going to fucking hate homecoming
All these "people" still mad about mjw being a POC.
the conflict of the movie was about Peter dealing with bad guys who he understood the motivations of and managed to get through to of by being an earnest, good kid, who wants to help
It's like the people who are mad about "TONY STARK JR!" stopped watching the movie halfway through
No one brought that up until you did you cocksocker. And yeah, they’re fucking cowards for not fully committing and instead created their own version
have sex
>a POC.
correct term is nigger
>imagine being this mad
I've never been happy
Did you watch the movie? Because Peter was more concerned about proving himself as an Avenger than doing the right thing. So much so he started cutting class because “oh Avengers business is way more important”. It wasn’t until the end did he finally realize it was all misguided, but the sequel kind of lessens this arc because he’s back at idolizing Stark. This constant need for validation is shit.
I fully support Peter's jungle fever
>I have to prove I'm good to Mr. Stark!
>Oh no I fucked up in front of Mr. Stark!
>Wowie zowie he's stealing from Mr. Stark!
>I have to free myself from this rubble -- FOR MR. STARK!
Yeah, I saw the film. I'm wondering if you're either lying or a paid shill. Either way you should fuck right off and die.
Avengers business is far more important.
He wasn’t an Avenger, and was cutting class due to arrogance. Fuck off
If it means we're then treating Iron Spider when he has to armor up for something then I'm perfectly content with this
>thread is about Peter's costume
>"REEEEE STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT MARY JANE"
What did this faglord mean by this?
>YES MASTER GIVE ME YOUR PROPOGANDA
Some of us don't like comics being used for globabist propaganda and white genocide-supporting.
sup batman
>makes his own suit.
>only touched a button and the machine did all the work.
Why are you lying? this is like 3D printing something and claim you did it.
Some impotent goon on the internet raging about comic book movie casting doesn’t have the right to call anyone or anything a coward.
Don't you have to spray your house for Jews?
How do we feel about this suit?
That's still Stark tech.
>There are we happy now?
Yea Forums lost the capacity to be happy awhile ago. All user feels when a company gives them what they want is more anger over having one less thing to be angry about.
Honestly, Zendaya is MJ if she was able to combine being a redhead with the perfect caramel brown skinned capacity to tan instead of the sun allergy most redheads have. Total upgrade.
Pym, pls go and stay go
I've always loved Spidey as Red/Black over Red/Blue. Looking back at the concept art for the Homecoming suit, it's something they always considered. If I have one complaint it'll take us back to the debate we had when we first saw it, which is whether the spider on the back is white or not, which looks more and more to be the case, which I'm not fond of, but isn't a dealbreaker for the rest of it, which I'm quite fond of. I still think the best suit would be the Homecoming one with the blue colored black.
Don't refer to negros and Latinos as "POC". It's patronizing. You gringos might think that you have a high moral standing, but you fucking don't. Enough is enough.
Stop referring to negros and Latinos as "POC". It's degrading. You gringos need to stop thinking that you have a high moral standing when it comes to people like us. You don't speak for us.
>Its not about origins or anything like that people hate homecoming because the jokes were embarrassing, the plot was just shitty references to previous films and the characters were boring especially MJ with shit skin
>If you are older than 13, you are going to fucking hate homecoming
This fucking delusion holy shit
>If I say that only people under 13 liked Homecoming then when someone tries to call me out on my shit I can just play the age card
Confirmed retard
>Tony is still Pete's sugar daddy even from the grave
Seems like more the same.
YESSIR MR POC! WOULD YOU PREFER I ADDRESS YOU WITH ANOTHER TERM INSTEAD?!
shit what if this is the venom suit but an AI who goes nuts
Do you even hear yourself right now? I’d say it right to their face if I could. Furthermore, that doesn’t negate my point either, you salty faggot
wait... is the superior spiderman suit?
>It's like the people who are mad about "TONY STARK JR!" stopped watching the movie halfway through
The absolute ass rape of ASM #33, the fact that the ending to Homecoming is completely ignored by his next appearance, and pretty much anything regarding him in Endgame negate this "argument"
>yeah hes using his super high tech lab to make another super high tech suit
yeah this is totally like the guy who has to sow his suit back together after every fight and has to garbage dump to build gadgets
totally the same and very relatable
Diehard marveldrones are too braindead to form coherent arguments, so they have to make up strawmen
Looks great but is tarnished by what it stands for like the Civil War suit.
Where’s a janitor when we need one
Nuke this thread
I mean neither is super relatable.
And there's no real backtracking it anymore.
They've already established Pete's limits for diy as well as his tech level. They can't downgrade or backtrack...well they can but they don't want to.
MCU peter already has people with high tech who know who he is. It make sense he would make use of it.
Mind you, it's established he sewed hismelf his first costume too.
>he never learned how to sew
fuck Iron Boy
yeah im sure having to sow your own outfit back together is as relatable as having a super computer make you a super suit in one go
thats a really smart observation
comics pete also had Super people on standbye yet he sowed his own outfit and made his own gadgets from scrap
>The absolute ass rape of ASM #33
Don't remind me.
im pretty sure that is what killed Steve Ditko
To be fair I hated that about IM1, where he basically just goes "Computer, build me flying powered armor" and that's it.
>The absolute ass rape of ASM #33
ok
> fact that the ending to Homecoming is completely ignored by his next appearance
Not really, are you talking about Iron-Spider Suit? He never said he wasn't ever going to use it, and to be fair Stark implanted it within his 'old' suit without Peter's knowledge.
>pretty much anything regarding him in Endgame
He was in there for...What? Five minutes at most? Just admit you have no idea what you're talking about.
The thing that pisses me off about it is the fact that there are retards out there that clearly haven't read it and defend the movie's version of it.
Like this asshole.
He declined the suit and a spot on the Avengers. The next movie he gets the suit and a spot on the Avengers and accepts it. Not only that, but he's still following Stark around like a puppy despite you having said that he got over that halfway through Homecoming. Furthermore, don't know if you have a shit short term memory or what, but Stark treated him like some kind of a son in Endgame and he was pretty much the whole reason Tony was motivated to reverse the snap. They also had a teary reunion and it showed Peter struggling to cope with his death. See also the FFH trailer which was all about losing muh Stark.
I'll call niggers and spics whatever I want, faggot.
So “new shit” just means Peter’s a retard and he does fuck all for most of the movie? Into the Spiderverse is much better btw
it's too high tech, they're really playing into the "he's the next Iron Man" shtick. his first suit will forever be Holland at his best.
too TRON-like/tactikewl/shitnergy still, member, DIDNEY, NO CAPES!
FUCK
Good examples of new material (previously unadapted beats that feel fresh yet familiar):
>ITSV
>PS4 game
Bad examples of new material (yet another origin story despite what people claim, just with a whole new character that isn't actually Spider-Man):
>MCU
Is there a reason why this looks like the first Scarlet Spider suit?
it pisses me off too man
ITBMD is supposed to be Peters moment and his only, its the moment where all his struggles in his personal life and superhero life come crashing down on him and the only thing keeping him going is the well being of his Aunt and doing good by Uncle Ben
but no, they had to tie the moment to Iron Man in the movie, they had to grab a defining personal moment in Spider-man history and have it be about the MCU's posterboy
at this moment i knew neither Marvel nor Sony could ever get Spider-man right
Probably what they were going for.
ok
Again, he never said he was never ever gonna use the suit. Also, he was ' forced' into the Avengers because there was a giant fucking space ship in the middle of Manhattan and he had to take action against the Black Order.
And no fucking shit he treats him like a son, Stark felt guilty about what did in AoU/Civil War. Did you forget Peter is 15/16 years old?
What even are your goalposts at this point? You implied that Peter and Stark were no longer close after the middle of Homecoming and have been proven wrong. What are you setting out to argue here?
the movie could have been even better than the original scene if they cut the monologue and just had a nice quiet moment where he finds the inner strength to get through it. maybe with a triumphant Spider-Man theme roaring in the background. but then the movie HAD to ruin it by injecting a Tony line.
Different user here, that scene is probably what pissed me off the most about Homecoming. It definitely highlights how they utterly failed one character just to wank their universe's "main character."
Too bad it doesn't look nearly as good as the Scarlet Spider suit, why did they make it so fucking cheap looking?
because it's a homemade suit, you fucking nutjob
the MCU version looks better than that. WAY better than that. looks like something a kid could actually make, aka doesn't magically become the best tailor in existence which is fine in the comics but I'm glad the movie made the suit the way it is.
Calling us spics as if you Americans are any better. Look at what you've done to your country. It's as if so many of you have gone insane. Instead of focusing on the issues that actually matter, you instead complain about nonsense. You Americans are a joke.
No retarded stripes, it's already the best one.
>has to rely on Stark tech for everything
I wish Spider-Man was never brought to the MCU
At least the one from Amazing Spider-Man made his own shit
In his first interaction he told us that he got some gadget from a dumbster, so that was already stablished
He made his first suit, hell his final battle in homecoming was with that suit
yeah he used those web shooters for all but one scene and he practicly forgot about his homemade suit at this point
MJ, Flash and every other character they made black or any other race should be white
It wouldn’t be cool if I made Black Panther a white dude, would it?
And fuck off with your “POC” bullshit, calling them “colored” people is racist but your new bullshit term isn’t because why? Because it’s a liberal term? Kill yourself, you fucking waste of oxygen.
Desperately searching for a male role model and facing disappointment in them and/or yourself isn’t?
>Main argument against a good Spider-Man costume is that "it's unrealistic for a teenager to sew a costume so well"
Apparently making one with hyper-advanced magic tech that's not even his is perfectly fine for a teenager. He's good at science, you see.
You are actually a retard.
>Only three letters
>Refers to a fuckton of stuff
No.
The only thing fresh about PS4 was Pete's relationship with Doc Ock, which was just a more fleshed out version of what Raimi did, don't kid yourself.
I guess Aunt May actually dying is something that happens every week in the comics.
Barely any adaptations put him outside of high school. There were plenty of other differences as well that I can't be arsed to list right now but you can start with My thing is though, that the characters act like they should outside of like, MJ
Aunt May has died in plenty of non-616 stories, so yeah it does.
It certainly did more than that. You’ve got the other villains, Miles is good/decent/better than the comics, I liked MJ being a reporter. It’s definitely not 100% an original take on the character and it recycled elements already done before but it gets the character of Peter more than the Hollywood adaptations do, and it’s just damn fun
>
>Miles is good/decent/better than the comics
People say this but the only noticeable improvement is no Bendis speak and he hasn't zapped fuckers yet.
A lot of shit happens in non 616 stories, that doesn't mean that we see them adapted on the big screen or videogames, which is what we're talking about you fucking mongoloid.
That's the sad thing, that IS an improvement over Bendis.
It stands for People of Color. Another way of saying colored people. Why should I let some faggot gringos call me and my people that?
>And no fucking shit he treats him like a son, Stark felt guilty about what did in AoU/Civil War. Did you forget Peter is 15/16 years old?
Which undermines Peter's character as a streethero and everyman, as well as his independance. That thing they where building up in the first movie.
Spider-Man always was, is and will forever be the more important and popular character, changing him to better fit Iron Man's narrative was always a travesty.
It was stablished being spider-maning for a while and we saw him in action before Tony thanks to the youtube videos swinging and shit
>he practicly forgot about his homemade suit at this point
So fucking what? Lmao stop reaching. The whole fucking point of him using that suit(and web shooters) in his final battle was that he was a hero before Tony, he doesn't need it anymore why would he go back to that? That's dumb, you're dumb, stop reaching
I think at first I was ok with it, until I realized from Homecoming that they just made Peter into this annoying MCU fanboy and instead of coming off as this young guy still learning the ropes and still in awe of superhero stuff, he just came off as stupid to me. Like as much as people think him making the suit doesn’t matter or that we don’t need to establish him being smart at this point, he just comes off as your average kid, and he isn’t supposed to be your average kid. You can relate to him of course, but him being this over eager cheerleader for the Avengers doesn’t fit and Homecoming did such a disservice to his character arc
yeah he reall proved he didnt need tony by going back to using his gear, using his personal computer and even going to his supporting cast for help
gee if only Spider-man had a supporting cast as interesting as Iron Man
>The whole fucking point of him using that suit(and web shooters) in his final battle was that he was a hero before Tony, he doesn't need it anymore why would he go back to that
Yeah as soon as daddy Stark takes his shit he realizes that. Problem is so much of what Peter does hinges on Stark that his character development feels more affected by Tony than his own conclusions. The movie tries to make it seem otherwise but that’s after so many scenes of him going “Mr. Stark” and groveling for approval.
Spider-man is supposed to be a self made hero
end of
he didnt need the help of any superhero to set up himself up for crime fighting
he didnt need a superhero team, (hell even when he went for help guys like the Avengers rejected him and didnt take him seriously)
and this will always be the major flaw of MCU Spider-man, hes dependent on the MCU to work.
Well, lucky for you there's a movie coming out in 3 weeks called "Spider-Man: Far From Home" about Spider-Man doing stuff his own way, on his own.
With his Iron-boy suit, his new mentor Mysterio and he's dealing with the death of Uncle Tony!
Everything every fan of the character wants.
...When was the last time a company gave us what we want? Peter and MJ together in the comics I guess? And before?
>A lot of shit happens in non 616 stories, that doesn't mean that we see them adapted on the big screen or videogames, which is what we're talking about you fucking mongoloid
Except most of the adaptions we get are already nothing like 616, and usually take a lot from Ultimate, something fresh would actually be a direct 616 adaption ironically.
you are retarded and subhuman
It's a fucking gift you autist why wouldn't he wear his shit, stop reaching. Spider-man proved himself without help and then he decided to use it because why wouldn't he, he wasn't on bad terms with Tony or anything.
The dude still poor and the cast is what you faggots love to bitch about and besides its just Happy and all other cast is all spider-man
Stop you have no arguments you're just being a stubborn bitch
Remember when Lee and Ditko debuted ASM by featuring the Fantastic Four as the guest stars, but had Peter wanting to join them as an equal and then telling them off when it turned out they wouldn't pay him instead of groveling at Reed senpai's feet and trying to force his way in as an intern?
I remember.
>and usually take a lot from Ultimate
I've never understood why that's the case, because it's more "modern"?
remember how the best talk Pete ever got from a Avenger was from Captain Fucking America at the point of his life where most of the country thought he was a fugitive and HE was able to relate to Spidey because he never get any recognition for his deeds
but why should Spidey relate with a selfless hero, hes supposed to hang out with the playboy millionair who has more alcohol in his body than morals
>hey Peter you proved to be your own man without my help
>btw heres more high tech suits, a kill mode that sweeps the entire room and a automatic pacifier that nurses you while you cry about your uncle Tony
I agree, except what else do you expect from gringo dumbasses, they invented the term "lantinx" all to refer me and my people. "Latinx" is there anything more retarded. Dumbass white idiots.
Yes. Call me a spic or wetback, it's better anyway.
Based.
Yup.
>More not muh and incorrect shit
Fucking pathetic, lmao
What are you talking about? He makes his own new suit, it's in the fucking OP you spaztic moron.
>He makes his own new suit,
yeah that high tech computer making the suit sure looks DIY
Why does it need to be a robot suit at all
Why can't it just be red spandex with a spider on it
BUT user ITS NEW
EVERYTHING NEW IS AUTOMATICLY GOOD
DONT LET ME CALL YOU A BOOMER
>He makes his own new suit, it's in the fucking OP you spaztic moron.
With Stark tech, but I guess I can steal an Iron man suit and then change the colors and say that I made a new suit.
OMG BUT user, BY THAT LOGIC ANYTHING NEW IS AUTOMATICALLY BAD
US SPIDER-FANS ARE TRAPPED IN A ENDLESS LOOP OF NOT MUH
I'LL PROCEED TO TELL OTHER PEOPLE THEY'RE NOT REAL SPIDEY FANS
>NO U
great argument bub
>probably the best "reboot" Hollywood has produced since the new Planet of the Apes trilogy
The absolute STATE of you
Explain why vast majority of the Spiderfags responded positively to Spider-Man PS4 and Into the Spider-Verse if we can't collectively accept anything new that isn't exactly like the thing we grew up with.
user dont just ask these questions, you might break the shill-bot
>Introduces a more relatable and accurate Peter Parker as a sidecharacter than the MCU does in 4 movies
fuck the MCU ill just keep waiting for more Spider-verse
Based
And you think the vast majority of people didn't/don't react positively to MCU Spider-Man? Fucking holy kek, the absolute state of (you).
Dumbass.
Honestly.
we are talking about actual Spider-man fans, not the MCU moutbreathers
ITT:
>he cant refute arguments so he just goes on posting ad hominems
how do they pay you shills? with DisneyLand tokens or PS4 wallet cards?
Why? It'll just get bagged & replaced.
heck, i'm a casual spidey fan and I hate the Iron Man Jr. vibes so much
I hope we can see battle damaged Spidey now they he can make new suits.